Does anyone know the acceptance rate for UQ-Ochsner? Or at least how many applicants they receive per year?
I hate to potentially be the subject of discipline, but... [I see no reason why the following written statements are an unfair giveway for the MMI. If you feel they are, just say so and I'll delete it]. the scenarios intertwine questions about your understanding of healthcare. There are a few questions per scenario asked. There are a few ethics questions but not all of them are ethics. I wasn't asked why I want to become a physician. Man, it is really tempting to try and reach out/kindly help and give more topics to prepare for but doing so would be a violation. Just go in there fully rested, prepared via practice and give it your best! Good luck to yah! I spoke to Intl Admissions following my rejection and stated I thought I was supposed to treat this MMI like CASPer and the person I spoke to seemed to understand what I meant right away. Perhaps because treating it like CASPer is a bad idea and/or other students have mentioned this as well. I have no idea. I took CASPer twice as I applied to the U.S. allopathic schools twice to no avail.I know there isn't much info you guys are able to say about the interview and I read this thread about tips to prepare but is this interview mainly like MMI style "ethics" questions a la Casper or are they going to be asking me more personal questions like "why I want to pursue medicine" etc.? Or a mix? Thanks so much!
I wondered the same thing good that you do your research and protect yourself/be safe. I can say I used Western Union Global Pay to pay my Flinders University app fee and Wells Fargo credit card processed it properly. I already underwent my Flinders interview and all is good.Hi Everyone! I was conditionally accepted in July and just got my MCAT score back and I am committing to UQ! I am trying to submit my deposit and I was wondering if it okay to send through Western Union? I can't go into my bank right now so I can't send it directly. Any guidance would be appreciated. Thanks!
"...it's always good to consider alternative viewpoints without being promoted."Don't worry about responses so much especially because you can't read body language well when the camera cuts off most of the interviewers' bodies.
The Bemo question list is good. Regardless of where you ZooMMI, it's always good to consider alternative viewpoints without being promoted.
Honestly, responding through more than a dozen or so Bemo questions is prolly overkill but do practice with some them and record yourself discussing your thoughts. My impression is that this MMI is there to figure out whether you're a decent human being and not going to say something callous or ridiculous like, "pfft, duh, healthcare is absolutely a luxury reserved for those who can bankroll my life" or something.
Best of luck!
I have read many times over about applicants not receiving secondaries from U.S. schools and I find that peculiar. I received a secondary from nearly every school during each cycle. Perhaps that is a hurdle to overcome in itself. What I didn't get though was interviews. I really strongly feel the U.S. is virtually impossible and I won't even fill out my 2020 AMCAS app this year. We need more programs like UQ-Ochsner as obviously it's popular and a legit way of actually getting into a good program. I was wondering when the app opens too but UQ-Och just updated their site recently stating the Feb. 2022 apps open Nov. 2020. You'll have to wait until spring 2021 to interview though.hey! i'm a current US MD/DO applicant. recently started looking into this school as a possibility in case i don't receive any IIs/acceptances this cycle.
could any of y'all clarify the application timeline? i know classes begin in February, so if i were to apply for Feb '22, when would the application open for that term?
Yup, this guy visited, interviewed students/staff and did more than his fair share of homework. It's much, much more than 'students = more matches.' It's bad and likely to be worse with their waiving the MCAT, which iirc is a requirement for federal student loans.I think the biggest difference between a Caribbean school like SGU and UQO is the attrition rate. The number of students entering a school like SGU is significantly different from the number of students graduating.
Also SGU is a much larger school than UQO so comparing # of matches isn't really a fair comparison.
I think SGU or similar schools could be a good option for someone who is truly capable of excelling, especially with limited support, but who for whatever reason has an academic past that makes getting into US medical school impossible. I would still see those schools as a last resort.
That's impressive data, but SGU is an irresponsibly gargantuan school. It makes sense they have more different residency placements, but you're not comparing real attrition rates, 4-year graduation rates and USMLE performance. Caribbean schools are predatory in nature and truly the last resort for people who are willing and resilient enough to fight the uphill battle to not just be a physician with the understanding that they will likely match in the less desirable specialties/locations. This is only for the ones that 'make it' and because the numbers are so obscured, one can never really know the actual match rates.See my attached .docx documents comparing the internal medicine residences between Atlantic Bridge, UQ-Ochsner and Saint George's University. With the exception of SGU the other school lists are comprehensive for the most part, but not entirely complete according to the schools. I threw ID medicine in there since that is my current interest. So SGU has 447 different U.S. residencies and UQ-Ochsner has just 52 in comparison? Wha? The SGU residencies don't look so bad. I really don't understand the whole "I wouldn't touch Carribean schools with a 10 foot pole" horror stories when you look at some of the desirable residencies they offer. I personally don't care about the tropics, but eh.
Yeah I agree with you I still felt that predatory for-profit stance and I think any turn-offs like that would make one unhappy about choosing such as school. I can go on and on about the negatives I have complied. Anyway, I'll quit posting about other schools. I think it's good to compare the schools here though just a bit. I also don't mean to sound like a whiner over my own struggles but y'all have certainly helped me to better understand it all. @ Canquito I see you've been an SDN member for some time and worked hard at it before being accepted to UQ.I think the biggest difference between a Caribbean school like SGU and UQO is the attrition rate. The number of students entering a school like SGU is significantly different from the number of students graduating.
Also SGU is a much larger school than UQO so comparing # of matches isn't really a fair comparison.
I think SGU or similar schools could be a good option for someone who is truly capable of excelling, especially with limited support, but who for whatever reason has an academic past that makes getting into US medical school impossible. I would still see those schools as a last resort.
I think many of us are here because we've struggled with admissions to US schools for whatever reason! UQO has certainly become more competitive over the last few years and I think will become more competitive as it develops a proven track record and increases in popularity.Yeah I agree with you I still felt that predatory for-profit stance and I think any turn-offs like that would make one unhappy about choosing such as school. I can go on and on about the negatives I have complied. Anyway, I'll quit posting about other schools. I think it's good to compare the schools here though just a bit. I also don't mean to sound like a whiner over my own struggles but y'all have certainly helped me to better understand it all. @ Canquito I see you've been an SDN member for some time and worked hard at it before being accepted to UQ.
Err yea I gotta watch those vids and then my reply post will be complete lol
I was on that one too, and yeah they moved the station computer to the room instead of you! You didn't miss anything, she just basically said thanks and goodbye and then everyone left.Hi all, I'm new here but just did my online MMI yesterday. Not really sure how I did - really floundered for a couple but hopefully it wasn't as bad as I thought.
One question I have for those who did their virtual MMI's - did the Zoom call end immediately after time was up for the last station? Like, was there no return to the breakout room for a formal conclusion? In the last station I was at, the call was ended pretty much as soon as the evaluator said that the response period was over. I'm just hoping I didn't miss anything at the end.
The same thing happened to me. I was wondering. Good to know it wasn't just mine. Definitely an Interesting interview.Hi all, I'm new here but just did my online MMI yesterday. Not really sure how I did - really floundered for a couple but hopefully it wasn't as bad as I thought.
One question I have for those who did their virtual MMI's - did the Zoom call end immediately after time was up for the last station? Like, was there no return to the breakout room for a formal conclusion? In the last station I was at, the call was ended pretty much as soon as the evaluator said that the response period was over. I'm just hoping I didn't miss anything at the end.
Thanks for informing me about how this app process if flowing Yea I completely agree, and that's fine we all deserve a chance to pursue the career we would like to but certainly there are a lot of international schools out there. I was considering University of Tartu, haha. UQ-Ochs is adding "integrative cell & tissue biology" as well as system physiology as pre-reqs for 2022 admission and beyond. This applies to even those conditionally admitted. They are also recommending biostatistics and anatomy. So these are good courses to have taken regardless but it is getting harder to get in. They'll also lowering the class size to 90. From past SDN posts years ago people were already talking about it's getting harder to get in. And as they said UQ-Ochs can afford to be more picky choosy. So you were accepted to Flinders and UQ-Ochs? Which school are you wanting to attend?I think many of us are here because we've struggled with admissions to US schools for whatever reason! UQO has certainly become more competitive over the last few years and I think will become more competitive as it develops a proven track record and increases in popularity.
The other Australian schools are still fairly non-competitive for US/international students, and I would strongly prefer them over Caribbean schools. Australian schools have a primary mandate to train Australian students to become doctors in Australia. International students provide higher tuition payments in exchange for lower admissions standards, but still have access to high-quality education and all of the resources that come with major research institutions. Caribbean schools are different insofar as they primarily exist to give US students a second chance to become a doctor--they are driven purely by profit, not by any need to produce good doctors.
You mentioned you applied to Flinders and had an interview, did you apply anywhere else? Flinders got back to me in less than a week so I would expect you to hear something soon.
Yeah the Griffith dean of medicine is incredibly responsive. It's good to have at least one acceptance. If I were you, I would go with Flinders if you get in (and can afford the crazy deposit) since it sounds like you would prefer to be in a city, and Griffith is an excellent backup option as they're not too far away from Brisbane. They're both good programs, and I don't think it's worth the extra year to try to get into a more prestigious school as the difference will likely be minimal if you want to match back to the US.Yea I completely agree, and that's fine we all deserve a chance to pursue the career we would like to but certainly there are a lot of international schools out there. UQ-Ochs is adding "integrative cell & tissue biology" as well as system physiology as pre-reqs for 2022 admission and beyond. They are also recommending biostatistics and anatomy. So these are good courses to have taken regardless but it is getting harder to get in. They'll also lowering the class size to 90.
Oh wow yea I interviewed with Flinder on 8-17 PDT so I guess I'll hear from them by 8-24. Flinders is a little odd though in the fact that I emailed them about something I won't mention here and never heard back. I also inquired as to whether I could send in a few letters of rec and a few brief personal statements following the interview. I did not hear back about this either. Griffith would message me back right away. Who knows, they are probably just really busy or whatever else. What I liked about Flinders is how organized and well explained the application process was. So I applied to Aussie schools that don't require the UCAT or ISAT exams. I just don't want any more heavy studying or expenses at this time. This ended up being Macquarie (withdrawn prior to assessment), James Cook (withdrawn prior to confirmed interview), Deakin (denied), ANU (denied), Griffith (accepted), Univ. of Sydney (denied for not meeting coursework credit allocation pre-req) and Univ. of Auckland (denied post interview). Univ. of Notre Dame and Univ. of Wollongong have these portfolios you have to fill out to apply. I just didn't do that. It's really tempting to take the entrance exams so I can apply to those Go8 schools. They're good schools in Australia's top cities. Univ. of Melbourne told me they are removing pre-reqs for applicants in 2022 and beyond !
The deposit fee for Griffith was $10,000.00 AUD not including $3060.00 AUD OSHC but I explained how my personal financial situation was a bit difficult at the time (especially with a virus on the loose) and they lowered it to $500.00 AUD + OSHC. That doesn't mean the remaining $9,500.00 AUD was still not due later on. Estimated total tuition was $276,000.00 AUD. Don't forget Visa, flight, etc. etc. haha! Who has a quarter of a million USD in the bank, ha!Yeah the Griffith dean of medicine is incredibly responsive. It's good to have at least one acceptance. If I were you, I would go with Flinders if you get in (and can afford the crazy deposit) since it sounds like you would prefer to be in a city, and Griffith is an excellent backup option as they're not too far away from Brisbane. They're both good programs, and I don't think it's worth the extra year to try to get into a more prestigious school as the difference will likely be minimal if you want to match back to the US.
One thing: if you haven't already, I would strongly recommend reaching out to Deakin for feedback. They told me during my interview that they love reapplicants and are very happy to give feedback on areas for improvement. Even if you don't want to reapply there, it might be useful to find out why you didn't get accepted and work on it for the future, as medical school interviews are far from the last interview you'll need to do!
@Wolvvs That's a great question. Tbh i'm really not sure. I'm going to have to evaluate how many IIs I have at that point to see where my best chances lie. It's definitely a difficult situation to be put in though.
I'm waiting until Sept.Hey guys!
Are we suppose to wait until later to fill out FAFSA or can we do it now even though the cost of attendance hasn't been finalized?
Looks like most other interview groups have heard back the Monday of the third week after the interview. For us that would have been yesterday, but it was a holiday so hopefully today? But at least one group heard back later in the week, so who knows...Anyone know about when we should hear back about 8/20 interviews?
Looks like most other interview groups have heard back the Monday of the third week after the interview. For us that would have been yesterday, but it was a holiday so hopefully today? But at least one group heard back later in the week, so who knows...
Looks like today didn't work out. Maybe tomorrow? Hopefully soonGood deal. Best of luck to you!
UQ Ochsner Research HubDoes anyone know if we are able to work as a part-time research assistant in UQ?
I saw there were some restrictions on the research opportunity, even voluntary. (Must be the projects listed).
From what I've heard from talking to previous students and reading previous threads, yes.Quick question - are Ochsner students able to apply to Australian internships after graduation?
From what I've heard from talking to previous students and reading previous threads, yes.
However, it's progressively becoming harder since there are now more medical graduates and we would be pretty low priority. In addition, I have heard from some people that there are some hospitals that don't like NAs since they've been burned by them in the past (ie. Applying for internship as a backup and getting it and then deciding to go back to the us after they match, making it harder for the hospitals to find last minute replacements), so just keep in mind you might have to work against that stigma in some places. Also it seems that the internship process is a lot more subjective in ozland and will depend on connections. Overall possible and many students that I've talked to at uq o have stated that the majority of people they know that wanted it, got it (take that how you will).
Also you should note that if you're going to specialize, it will most likely take you a while to get into a residency as they are pretty competitive. You may most likely end up at a community hospital if not a rural hospital for internship also. Btw, earlier this thread in the match list, they also showed the Australian internship hospitals (I think there was like 7-8 people)
Having all that said, there are no stats to show your chances and everything I've said are based on personal accounts, so if anyone has any other info, feel free to add or correct me.
Tldr: yes, with some complications as expected.
Nope. Sorry, I should clarify, I'm one of you guys that just got accepted for 2021, but my information is based off of a couple of people in the uq o program, a friend in usyd , some older posts on sdn, and a look into oz + kiwi internship + residency processes. I was curiousAre you studying in one of these Australian schools currently?
Nope. Sorry, I should clarify, I'm one of you guys that just got accepted for 2021, but my information is based off of a couple of people in the uq o program, a friend in usyd , some older posts on sdn, and a look into oz + kiwi internship + residency processes. I was curious
Thank you! Excited to join yall although I shouldn't say "just" since I got accepted like 2 months ago. Oops! Time flies!Welcome to the gang then
Just got a waitlisted email.... kind of bummed but also okay because i've gotten some MD interviews lined up so everything happens for a reason. Do you think I can ask for interview feedback or something along those lines?
I'm sorry to hear that , but it's most likely not over. You can ask for feedback (in fact I recommend it, it shows interest), just be aware they might not give you much information beyond what their criteria is. However to give you closure, I'll provide my opinion. It honestly might just be that they're being more selective now since their class is filling up. You may get accepted later as people drop to go to US schools. However, if you already have other interviews, I would focus on those (especially if they're usmd)Just got a waitlisted email.... kind of bummed but also okay because i've gotten some MD interviews lined up so everything happens for a reason. Do you think I can ask for interview feedback or something along those lines?