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[Brocimus]

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I replied to the email the day I got it. Luckily my grades were in, even though they don't have to be posted until the 4th. My GPA on my app was 3.6 cum, 3.35 BCPM. It's good to know others are getting emails. I got straight B's this semester. Think it will hurt me, or do you think they are just checking to make sure you aren't totally tanking your GPA? Oh and I'm really hoping to hear on the 15th.

 

[eschott]

Has anyone with an unconditional received any pressure for updated grades, or do we just have to send in the transcript with the degree posted?

 

[dwb8p]

Has anyone with an unconditional received any pressure for updated grades, or do we just have to send in the transcript with the degree posted?

Nah, we're good. they just need a final transcript prior to matriculation.

 

[mcaliboyw]

Does anyone know how long it takes USUHS to turn around a decision once they receive your LOA to apply? I interviewed back in October, and just now (thanks BUPERS!) received and forwarded my LOA to USUHS. Is it the sort of thing where my package hasn't even gone in front of the committee yet, or is a decision made and they just can't tell me until they receive the LOA? Oh and here's to having the duty on New Years day 👍

 

[DrMetal]

Does anyone know how long it takes USUHS to turn around a decision once they receive your LOA to apply? I interviewed back in October, and just now (thanks BUPERS!) received and forwarded my LOA to USUHS. Is it the sort of thing where my package hasn't even gone in front of the committee yet, or is a decision made and they just can't tell me until they receive the LOA? Oh and here's to having the duty on New Years day 👍

I think the latter but not sure. Probably a good question for the office.

 

[NavyMed07]

Does anyone know how long it takes USUHS to turn around a decision once they receive your LOA to apply? I interviewed back in October, and just now (thanks BUPERS!) received and forwarded my LOA to USUHS. Is it the sort of thing where my package hasn't even gone in front of the committee yet, or is a decision made and they just can't tell me until they receive the LOA? Oh and here's to having the duty on New Years day 👍

I e-mailed USUHS about this issue and was told that a conditional acceptance cannot be offered until the LOA is on file. So, from what I understand, my file is sitting on someone's desk awaiting the LOA before it can go to the committee for a decision. I tried the contact you posted at PERS but haven't heard anything yet. Sorry about duty. I had duty Christmas Day

 

[mslall]

I e-mailed USUHS about this issue and was told that a conditional acceptance cannot be offered until the LOA is on file. So, from what I understand, my file is sitting on someone's desk awaiting the LOA before it can go to the committee for a decision. I tried the contact you posted at PERS but haven't heard anything yet. Sorry about duty. I had duty Christmas Day

i think giuseppe (sp) had the same issue with that. Look back for a few of his posts...you may want to send him a message.

 

[Brocimus]

I guess no acceptances went out New Year's Eve. I figured no one would hear today. Maybe tomorrow? Or were the Christmas Eve calls supposed to be the Jan 1 calls?

 

[SirGecko]

Wait, I thought that they wouldn't interview anyone till they got the LOA?

(I'm pretty sure that my LOA went to USUHS but I'm basing that off the Navy approving my service selection of med corps as the letter never officially went through me.)

 

[NavyMed07]

I was interviewed without an LOA. If you were offered an acceptance, I'd assume that your LOA is on file.

 

[markusmax]

Anyone here who interviewed on Dec 4th? I was just wondering if anyone had heard anything. I know they told us up to 12 weeks but I've heard we could possibly find out before then.

 

[DrMetal]

Spoke with the admissions office this morning. Was told that they are just about finishing all of the October interviewees and will start on the Nov. ones very soon. So if you interviewed in Nov, you're likely to hear back sometime this month (Jan). If you interviewed in Dec, you'll probably here back in Feb.

 

[Brocimus]

Spoke with the admissions office this morning. Was told that they are just about finishing all of the October interviewees and will start on the Nov. ones very soon. So if you interviewed in Nov, you're likely to hear back sometime this month (Jan). If you interviewed in Dec, you'll probably here back in Feb.

This is exciting. Anyone hear today?

 

[brentb23]

Anyone here who interviewed on Dec 4th? I was just wondering if anyone had heard anything. I know they told us up to 12 weeks but I've heard we could possibly find out before then.

I interviewed on Nov. 6th and have not heard anything. I would kick back, relax, and let your toes curl. It's gonna be a little bit for Dec 4th interviewees.

 

[mcaliboyw]

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[lmw86]

I applied to USU last year, received my interview in November, and got the "send us your grades" email in late december.

I believe I got the call for conditional acceptance on January 13th, so for those of you who interviewed in november, you still have some time.

As it turns out, I got disqualified for taking ADD medication, but I worked that out and reapplied this year (wish me luck!). Hopefully all of you who are accepted in a few days won't have to deal with that!

 

[armywife529]

I applied to USU last year, received my interview in November, and got the "send us your grades" email in late december.

I believe I got the call for conditional acceptance on January 13th, so for those of you who interviewed in november, you still have some time.

As it turns out, I got disqualified for taking ADD medication, but I worked that out and reapplied this year (wish me luck!). Hopefully all of you who are accepted in a few days won't have to deal with that!

What is the issue with the ADD meds? My husband is on Adderall, but he's currently AD Army. Is this a military DQ or USUHS DQ? He was off of them for over a year when he first enlisted two and a half years ago. Anything he can do now to prevent an issue when he applies in the future?

 

[NavyFP]

What is the issue with the ADD meds? My husband is on Adderall, but he's currently AD Army. Is this a military DQ or USUHS DQ? He was off of them for over a year when he first enlisted two and a half years ago. Anything he can do now to prevent an issue when he applies in the future?

Sure, he can get off the meds. To meet entry standards, you need to be off mental health meds for at least one year prior to the physical. Your husband might get a waiver because he is currently on active duty (all be it not commissioned) because retention standards are not as stringent. But if he gets a strict by the book doc doing his exam, it could still be a no go.

 

[freubr]

Just wondering if there are any USUHS grads who are in IHS that could give some insight on their experiences as a physician as well as during their residency. thanks

 

[airforcedukie]

I've been scouring this forum for the last several months....interview back Oct 2 & have gotten lots of "we havent decided yet" whenever I called adcom. I'm completely baffled by them now, as I called last week (Jan 2 or so) and they said that I should have gotten a letter two months ago (meaning before I talked to them over the phone and they told me they hadn't made a decision yet) -- even when I corrected my address I still haven't received anything. I called today and whoever was supposed to handle that stuff wasn't in.....so I'm assuming that whatever 'letter' I'm getting isn't good news, which I guess will support the opinions that USUHS really is focusing on the numbers....I had AWESOME interviews and have a lot of really good LORs/ECs/leadership/etc etc but a few sub-par grades and a just-ok MCAT score that I'm sure the adcom couldn't quite get past.

I also emailed them to ask for some feedback/clarification but didn't receive any sort of response...

As much gung-ho USUHS as I was the last few months, their ambigiousness in making me wait 3+ months for any sort of response has really turned me away for now.......if my next round of interviews go well I'm thinking doing DO/MPH with my HPSP .....

any advice/etc pls PM me. thnx 🙂

 

[DrMetal]

I've been scouring this forum for the last several months....interview back Oct 2 & have gotten lots of "we havent decided yet" whenever I called adcom. I'm completely baffled by them now, as I called last week (Jan 2 or so) and they said that I should have gotten a letter two months ago (meaning before I talked to them over the phone and they told me they hadn't made a decision yet) -- even when I corrected my address I still haven't received anything. I called today and whoever was supposed to handle that stuff wasn't in.....so I'm assuming that whatever 'letter' I'm getting isn't good news, which I guess will support the opinions that USUHS really is focusing on the numbers....I had AWESOME interviews and have a lot of really good LORs/ECs/leadership/etc etc but a few sub-par grades and a just-ok MCAT score that I'm sure the adcom couldn't quite get past.

I also emailed them to ask for some feedback/clarification but didn't receive any sort of response...

As much gung-ho USUHS as I was the last few months, their ambigiousness in making me wait 3+ months for any sort of response has really turned me away for now.......if my next round of interviews go well I'm thinking doing DO/MPH with my HPSP .....

any advice/etc pls PM me. thnx 🙂

They send letters out stating that they "haven't made a decision yet"? Why send anything at all? If you don't hear back from them, it should be assumed that the decision hasn't yet been made, right???

Well, the trend seems to be that if your numbers are a little low (GPA < 3.5 MCAT < 30), they may interview you, then alternate list you or wait on your application. So they may be holding onto your app for further consideration, maybe they'll accept you sometime this year, or waitlist you. I assume by your screen name you applied AF? Would you be willing to switch? (b/c I think AF is the most competitive).

Anyway, keep up your persistence. And definitely pursue your other possibilities, just in case.

 

[airforcedukie]

They send letters out stating that they "haven't made a decision yet"? Why send anything at all? If you don't hear back from them, it should be assumed that the decision hasn't yet been made, right???

Well, the trend seems to be that if your numbers are a little low (GPA < 3.5 MCAT < 30), they may interview you, then alternate list you or wait on your application. So they may be holding onto your app for further consideration, maybe they'll accept you sometime this year, or waitlist you. I assume by your screen name you applied AF? Would you be willing to switch? (b/c I think AF is the most competitive).

Anyway, keep up your persistence. And definitely pursue your other possibilities, just in case.

No, they never sent any sort of letter, just email responses & responses over the phone saying to "check back later." It sounded from this time that it was either wait list / alt list ... which I am not too surprised with given my lower numbers, but it would be nice to know what "letter" they are referring to and why is hasn't come, although I've verified my address several times. Who knows...

And yes..I'm definitely AF....as far as switching I've already got my allocation with the AF and don't want to switch.......so........we shall see how it turns out 🙂

 

[TheGoose]

I've been a little quiet on this thread for a while but have to chime in. I think that some of the decisions made this year are an absolute travesty. For a unique school that should really understand that the character of their applicants is essential for a successful student and career milmed physician, I am baffled at the idea that they are turning away exceptional candidates and looking for higher numbers.

I do believe that they'll be drilling into the alternate pool due to this philosophy, but its a shame that in the process they could make someone like airforcedukie bitter about the University as a whole. check out my pm, afd.

 

[DrMetal]

I've been a little quiet on this thread for a while but have to chime in. I think that some of the decisions made this year are an absolute travesty. For a unique school that should really understand that the character of their applicants is essential for a successful student and career milmed physician, I am baffled at the idea that they are turning away exceptional candidates and looking for higher numbers.

I do believe that they'll be drilling into the alternate pool due to this philosophy, but its a shame that in the process they could make someone like airforcedukie bitter about the University as a whole. check out my pm, afd.

You're certainly right in that they're turning away good applicants. Hell I might be one of them, I still haven't heard yet (interview on 11/20, so still have some time).

But I don't think I'd call it an absolute travesty. USUHS is, after all, a medical school, and getting into an MD program is no small feat. And USUHS is a great deal financially, especially for prior-service folks. That plus an ailing economy probably made for an unusually large applicant pool this year. Of course, the size of the class didn't change, and so things got competitive. So how else are they supposed to discriminate amongst all the applicants? Unfortunately the answer is in the numbers, I think.

In any case, rest assured that the admissions office is operating like that of any other medical school (and now, like any other competitive medical school). Keep in mind that when you call them, you're talking to one of the admin people there (probably not someone that was on the admissions committee), and they can't give you the result (either good or bad) of your application. They've probably been given strict orders not to do so. Now they may give you a little hint, and you have to read between the lines. So AirforceDukie, you're probably right in your assessment.

Whatever happens, keep your options open, continue interviewing at other schools, etc. And if you applied really early, like you did Goose, you might just get in, so keep your hopes up (but don't let go of other opportunities).

 

[TheGoose]

fair play. I guess in terms of travesty im just frustrated with the system of US medical schools in general. airforceduke and i interviewed together so that was also a source of frustration (especially since she's rotc, rocked interviews, and i thought she'd be a lock....just frazzled at who they wont pick up)

EDIT: dukie, you mentioned that they wouldnt give you feedback. I asked about this too and they said that if you are on the alternate list, they cannot discuss any aspect of your application because it is technically still under consideration. I think after a rejection we could call and get feedback about what happened.

 

[mcaliboyw]

I thought that it had been discussed earlier in the thread that if you are rejected (ie no waitlist/alt list), they send you a letter. All other designations then (acceptance/waitlist/alt list) would be given over the phone during a status call on either the 1st or the 15th. Is that not correct?

 

[DrMetal]

I thought that it had been discussed earlier in the thread that, if you are rejected (ie no waitlist/alt list), they send you a letter. All other designations then (acceptance/waitlist/alt list) would be given over the phone during a status call on either the 1st or the 15th. Is that not correct?

i'm not sure where the 1st/15th rule came out, but I don't think that's a hard one. I think they've called on other dates as well.

I think the only time you'll get a phone call is if you're accepted (conditionally). All other decisions are mailed.

 

[DrMetal]

fair play. I guess in terms of travesty im just frustrated with the system of US medical schools in general . .

yeah, it's a tough nut to crack.

Just out of curiosity, how old are you guys/gals? Sounds like you're in your early 20s (if you're just graduating, or have done so recently). Reason why I ask, is that you still have plenty of time (in the grand scheme of things) to perhaps retake the MCAT, and apply next cycle, that is if things don't work out for you this year, and if you want to exclusively attend USUHS (a sentiment that I understand!).

I'm always an advocate of taking time off in between schools. It could do you a lot of good. [I spent 4 years in a nice RL community in the Navy (of course you don't have to do the same thing!)] Time off is good for several reasons, even if it's just a year or so. You could use the time to exclusively study for the MCAT and better your score, plus you could take a job, make some money, gain some skills, pay back some debt, travel! (I can say, I've walked the beaches of Normandie and sampled every fish taco in San Diego).

 

[airforcedukie]

yeah, it's a tough nut to crack.

Just out of curiosity, how old are you guys/gals? Sounds like you're in your early 20s (if you're just graduating, or have done so recently). Reason why I ask, is that you still have plenty of time (in the grand scheme of things) to perhaps retake the MCAT, and apply next cycle, that is if things don't work out for you this year, and if you want to exclusively attend USUHS (a sentiment that I understand!).

I'm always an advocate of taking time off in between schools. It could do you a lot of good. [I spent 4 years in a nice RL community in the Navy (of course you don't have to do the same thing!)] Time off is good for several reasons, even if it's just a year or so. You could use the time to exclusively study for the MCAT and better your score, plus you could take a job, make some money, gain some skills, pay back some debt, travel! (I can say, I've walked the beaches of Normandie and sampled every fish taco in San Diego).

yeah --I just called again and apparently this is the "3rd" time they are sending the letter, so I'll see what it actually says. The admin person just said it was unfavorable, so I'm guessing alt list (since I guess they don't really have a "rejection")...I'm 21 (college senior), so of course plenty of time, and if I don't find any other schools I like/get in to this cycle I'm probably gonna go do my assigned job over at Wright-Patt, get a phD/publish some stuff, retake the mcat & prob orgo2/physics, and apply again. we shall see. either way i'll be an air force doc, it's just a matter of when.

 

[TheGoose]

(since I guess they don't really have a "rejection")...

they do have a "we cannot offer you a place in the 2009 class" decision. Alt list is not the worst of the worst, just like a waitlist of the waitlist.

 

[DrMetal]

yeah --I just called again and apparently this is the "3rd" time they are sending the letter, so I'll see what it actually says. The admin person just said it was unfavorable, so I'm guessing alt list (since I guess they don't really have a "rejection")...I'm 21 (college senior), so of course plenty of time, and if I don't find any other schools I like/get in to this cycle I'm probably gonna go do my assigned job over at Wright-Patt, get a phD/publish some stuff, retake the mcat & prob orgo2/physics, and apply again. we shall see. either way i'll be an air force doc, it's just a matter of when.

That sounds like a great plan! Well at least now you know. That's the advantage of applying early. good luck!

 

[mcaliboyw]

Anybody else keeping their fingers crossed for tomorrow? I keep telling myself "don't worry, its only the rest of your life."

 

[000777]

Anybody else keeping their fingers crossed for tomorrow? I keep telling myself "don't worry, its only the rest of your life."

It's tommorow or bust (more like waitlist or like alt....) if you interviewed Nov. 6 ....

 

[Dr Buddy]

Got some bad news for the Navy hopefulls. I just got word on very good authority that all the Navy slots are filled. So if you don't hear very soon, best to hope for is waitlist.

I don't know anything about the other services.

Quite heartbroken right now.

 

[Dr Buddy]

On the same note, does anyone know or know where why to find statistics on how many students end up accepting their billet. Curious what my chances on the waitlist will be.

 

[mslall]

sounds like tomorrow should be a big day then

 

[DrMetal]

Got some bad news for the Navy hopefulls. I just got word on very good authority that all the Navy slots are filled. So if you don't hear very soon, best to hope for is waitlist.

I don't know anything about the other services.

Quite heartbroken right now.

whoaa!!!!! Can I ask, how did you find this out?!

So do you think they'll be calling all of the Nov. interwees tomorrow?

 

[speedyk]

Got some bad news for the Navy hopefulls. I just got word on very good authority that all the Navy slots are filled. So if you don't hear very soon, best to hope for is waitlist.

I don't know anything about the other services.

Quite heartbroken right now.

Not surprised to hear this... I thought the class filled up in December last year and they've been slower this year in giving out decisions.

Getting on the waitlist this early is almost as good as getting in if you've been medically cleared, etc. Don't be too upset if you are waitlisted... there are a bunch of people who interviewed early at USU (their backup) and are not going to attend.

 

[Dr Buddy]

whoaa!!!!! Can I ask, how did you find this out?!

So do you think they'll be calling all of the Nov. interwees tomorrow?

My HPSP recruiter is tight with someone at USUHS that is on the admissions committee (I don't want to give names since I don't know if it is priveledged info). The recruiter found out and sent me a heads up e-mail since he knew USUHS was my first choice.

 

[Dr Buddy]

Not surprised to hear this... I thought the class filled up in December last year and they've been slower this year in giving out decisions.

Getting on the waitlist this early is almost as good as getting in if you've been medically cleared, etc. Don't be too upset if you are waitlisted... there are a bunch of people who interviewed early at USU (their backup) and are not going to attend.

That's good to know; thanks for the vote of confidence speedy. Still, it does make me quite a bit nervous. I interviewed Dec. 11th so if the waitlist is already building who knows how long it will be before I get there.

Good luck all!!!

 

[dwb8p]

My HPSP recruiter is tight with someone at USUHS that is on the admissions committee (I don't want to give name since I don't know if it is priveledged info. The recruiter found out and sent me a heads up e-mail since he knew USUHS was my first choice.

Wow...your claim just lost all credibility. I would not get my panties in a bunch because of some E7 ****bag trying to get another HPSP contract through.

edit: the above contempt stems from -MY- experience with Army SFC Joe Recruiter discouraging me from applying to USUHS instead of taking HPSP

 

[DrMetal]

From what they told me when I was there (11/20) during my interview, they accept people all throughout the Dec. cycle of interviews. (The Jan/Feb interviewees are likely to get wait-listed).

So if that's true, and if what your recruiter told you is true, that means that they gone through all of the Nov. interviewees (plausible) and all of the Dec. interviewees (not so plausible). In other words, that means that they're several weeks ahead of schedule.

Plus they told the 11/20 interviewees that is would be at least 10 weeks (1/29) before we heard anything.

Anyway, so I wouldn't freak out if you don't hear anything tomorrow, I think we might be jumping the gun a little bit.

good luck all!

 

[mslall]

Wow...your claim just lost all credibility. I would not get my panties in a bunch because of some E7 ****bag trying to get another HPSP contract through.

edit: the above contempt stems from -MY- experience with Army SFC Joe Recruiter discouraging me from applying to USUHS instead of taking HPSP

haha, "you want to be a military physician? Forget the place that will best prepare you for a career in milmed, give you full benefits, still not pay tuition, and make triple the money......GO for HPSP!!!!"

Did "SFC Joe Recruiter" give you a reason? I'll bet, for someone in your position dwb, it was more than laughable. "Help my career? Screw your future." Something along those lines?

 

[Dr Buddy]

Wow...your claim just lost all credibility. I would not get my panties in a bunch because of some E7 ****bag trying to get another HPSP contract through.

edit: the above contempt stems from -MY- experience with Army SFC Joe Recruiter discouraging me from applying to USUHS instead of taking HPSP

It's cool I understand the skeptism. Recruiters can be sketch. However, said recruiter actually is encouraging me to go to USUHS and even set me up with someone to meet with while on campus, is a current Navy nurse on an alternative duty tour, and claims his main interest that the Navy gets a good physician. In said e-mail he even encouraged me not give up on USUHS since the wait list does usually have good turnover. I'm pretty sure he's not just trying to bully me into HPSP.

A 100% certifiable claim - no certainly not. However, this is not my first go around with recruiters. I have dealt with many and feel pretty confident telling the good from bad and BS from the credible.

All can take the info as the wish, but I am 99% confident in it.

 

[Dr Buddy]

From what they told me when I was there (11/20) during my interview, they accept people all throughout the Dec. cycle of interviews. (The Jan/Feb interviewees are likely to get wait-listed).

I was told pretty much the same thing, but I got more of the impression that it was just what generally happened not a steadfast rule.

So if that's true, and if what your recruiter told you is true, that means that they gone through all of the Nov. interviewees (plausible) and all of the Dec. interviewees (not so plausible).

Yea agreed.

Anyway, so I wouldn't freak out if you don't hear anything tomorrow, I think we might be jumping the gun a little bit.

Extra agreed. To quote dwb, we probably shouldn't get our panties in a bunch.

 

[mcaliboyw]

I think another thing to remember is that I'm pretty sure that USU sets aside a certain number of Navy acceptances to the USNA kids, who didn't interview until mid-December. I don't know how many interviewed, but 6-8 slots out of 50 wouldn't be unreasonable.

 

[mslall]

man, i wish we could get a flurry of posts like these more often......at least it gives me something to look at when i check the forum for the 10th time in a day

 

[dwb8p]

haha, "you want to be a military physician? Forget the place that will best prepare you for a career in milmed, give you full benefits, still not pay tuition, and make triple the money......GO for HPSP!!!!"

Did "SFC Joe Recruiter" give you a reason? I'll bet, for someone in your position dwb, it was more than laughable. "Help my career? Screw your future." Something along those lines?

Pretty Much. It was actually SFC Jane Recruiter. She was an LPN (enlisted nurse -- only an associates degree) and her attempt at dissuasion fell along the lines of "At USUHS you're going to have to get up early in the morning and do PT and stuff (false), and if you do HPSP you won't be distracted by military regulations, like cutting your hair."

Laughable at best.

 

[mslall]

haha, those once a semester PFTs are gonna be brutal. When i went to talk to a recruiter about what I needed for OBLC both Jane and Joe Recruiter had never even heard of USUHS.

 

[mcaliboyw]

Man wouldn't you know too that I have the Mids watch the night before I could get the call...I guess I will just go to sleep tomorrow with my phone taped to my head I checked out the class thread and it seems like calls go out in the afternoon...has that been everyone's experience?