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I didn't see any posts for those who received offers at Vandy, so I thought I'd go ahead and start one...

Got my acceptance a few days ago and I am extremely psyched! Had a great trip/interview day in Nashville and VMS shot to the top of my list.

Anyone else out there? Any current students with advise/opinions?

Thanks!!!
 
I'll definitely be there next year.
 
Can't wait!

Do any current students (or other potential students) have input on the program?
 
Can't wait!!! Vandy 2012!

Do any current students (or other potential students) have input on the program?

We love it here, the new anatomy lab is really nice! Vandy's advantage is that the medical school is centered around its medical students. You really don't realize it until you get here.

Drop in any questions!
 
Great to hear... One of the things i regretted about the interview day (there is very little negative for me to say) was that I felt I didn't see much of the classroom/lab facilities. I'm sure that 2nd look weekend will be full of those opportunities, but I'm glad to hear that they have a brand new anatomy lab. The online info looks great.

One question that I did have is what types of laptops students have? I will likely replace mine soon and am strongly considering a macbook. Do you know of any major compatibility issues?

We love it here, the new anatomy lab is really nice! Vandy's advantage is that the medical school is centered around its medical students. You really don't realize it until you get here.

Drop in any questions!
 
This is a pretty slow moving thread! There have to be more people out there who are considering Vandy!?

Are there any first year students out there? How have you found the new curriculum? Any words of wisdom?
 
I've been accepted to Vandy (MSTP)!!! Not sure if I'll end up there but I really liked it - guess I'll see after 4-6+ more interviews...
 
This is a pretty slow moving thread! There have to be more people out there who are considering Vandy!?

Are there any first year students out there? How have you found the new curriculum? Any words of wisdom?

New curriculum is great, not starting anatomy until the end of October made the transition into med school more like walking slowly into the cold pool rather than diving into the deep end. Improvements will happen each year so the organization and presentation of material will only get better.
 
Great to hear... One of the things i regretted about the interview day (there is very little negative for me to say) was that I felt I didn't see much of the classroom/lab facilities. I'm sure that 2nd look weekend will be full of those opportunities, but I'm glad to hear that they have a brand new anatomy lab. The online info looks great.

One question that I did have is what types of laptops students have? I will likely replace mine soon and am strongly considering a macbook. Do you know of any major compatibility issues?

New anatomy lab is wonderful!

Lots of tablet pcs and macbooks when you look across the lecture hall. Macs have a couple compatibility issues (annoyances is probably a better way to put it), but nothing major. I do not regret buying a macbook, especially when I see Vista laptops freeze and run into other problems, daily! Remember that you can easily run windows concurrently with mac osx.
 
For those of you interested... I found a couple cool articles about the new anatomy lab and some other facilities...

About the Anatomy Lab
http://www.mc.vanderbilt.edu/vanderbiltmedicine/vumc_summer07/sidebar1_feature5.htm

Article about recently entering class and updated curriculum/facility
http://www.mc.vanderbilt.edu/reporter/index.html?ID=5732
http://www.mc.vanderbilt.edu/vanderbiltmedicine/vumc_summer07/feature2.htm

Center for Experiential Learning
http://www.mc.vanderbilt.edu/medschool/otlm/cela.php
http://www.mc.vanderbilt.edu/vanderbiltmedicine/vumc_summer07/feature5.htm

Looks like there is a lot of investment in the teaching facilities. Any other links that people had about Vanderbilt would be awesome.
 
Hi, I just got waitlisted at Vanderbilt today...I don't know... I am kind of sad that I didn't get the acceptance offer (because vanderbilt is one of my top choices), but also grateful that I didn't get rejected.

I am planning to write the letter of intent to vanderbilt sometime soon.

do you guys have any tips or advices?
 
Booyah!

I can't wait to go to Nashville again - I'm really looking forward to seeing the anatomy labs!

And (of course) I can't wait to meet everyone! 🙂
 
Sorry to hear that you weren't accepted straight out, but don't get too down. They obviously liked you or else you wouldn't still be in the process. The whole purpose of a waitlist is to take people off of it!

From what I've heard (about schools in general) is that you should not send a letter of intent unless you know that school is unequivocally your #1 choice and will go to it regardless of what else happens. If you are still unsure about a couple programs, I would hold off until you are. But if you know that Vandy is where you want to be, then I think you should definitely send then one.

As for what to say in it, I would just try and articulate your personal reasons for wanting to be there (the students, faculty, curriculum, the location, etc...). I am not an expert letter-of-intent writer, but I'd have to imagine that the most important thing is that you sound genuine, mature, and EXCITED. If VMS really is your top choice no matter what, then I'm sure that will come out.

Good luck and hang in there!


Hi, I just got waitlisted at Vanderbilt today...I don't know... I am kind of sad that I didn't get the acceptance offer (because vanderbilt is one of my top choices), but also grateful that I didn't get rejected.

I am planning to write the letter of intent to vanderbilt sometime soon.

do you guys have any tips or advices?
 
For those of you interested... I found a couple cool articles about the new anatomy lab and some other facilities...

About the Anatomy Lab
http://www.mc.vanderbilt.edu/vanderbiltmedicine/vumc_summer07/sidebar1_feature5.htm

Article about recently entering class and updated curriculum/facility
http://www.mc.vanderbilt.edu/reporter/index.html?ID=5732
http://www.mc.vanderbilt.edu/vanderbiltmedicine/vumc_summer07/feature2.htm

Center for Experiential Learning
http://www.mc.vanderbilt.edu/medschool/otlm/cela.php
http://www.mc.vanderbilt.edu/vanderbiltmedicine/vumc_summer07/feature5.htm

Looks like there is a lot of investment in the teaching facilities. Any other links that people had about Vanderbilt would be awesome.

Those changes at Vanderbilt seem to mirror what occurred at the University of Tennessee several years ago. Many believe that Vandy looks down on UT, so that is a little surprising. However, those changes have been very positive at UT and should make Vandy an even better school (already the best in the South).
 
hi everyone - i interviewd at vandy last month and have been awaiting any word back. i habitually delete my gmail spam folder and as i pressed delete forever i noticed a subject line reading something about vanderbilt medicine survey. if this goes out to all folk interviewed, can someone pass me the link if its not unique? i assume there is no significance to being asked to do a survey

or perhaps my hopeful eyes are lying to me in that split second before deletion....
 
hi everyone - i interviewd at vandy last month and have been awaiting any word back. i habitually delete my gmail spam folder and as i pressed delete forever i noticed a subject line reading something about vanderbilt medicine survey. if this goes out to all folk interviewed, can someone pass me the link if its not unique? i assume there is no significance to being asked to do a survey

or perhaps my hopeful eyes are lying to me in that split second before deletion....

Anyone who interviews gets that survey just asking how your interview day went and what the staff could do to improve. I'm also pretty sure it said something like the survey would have no effect on their decisions so I don't think it matters if you didn't do it. I'd pass on the link but I can't seem to find that email. Good luck! I hope you hear from them soon!

On another note, I think I heard a rumor that Vandy has the highest student satisfaction or something like that. Where do you find info like that? Do you current students think that's true just from your experiences? I got accepted 🙂D) and loved what I saw at the interview, but I just want to make sure it's the right choice. I'll probably see you all next year!
 
On another note, I think I heard a rumor that Vandy has the highest student satisfaction or something like that. Where do you find info like that? Do you current students think that's true just from your experiences? I got accepted 🙂D) and loved what I saw at the interview, but I just want to make sure it's the right choice. I'll probably see you all next year!

There's some AAMC survey of graduating medical students and their opinions of their school, especially about the quality (found on its website somewhere, I can't remember where it is exactly). One of the few negative comments I can remember is that Vandy isn't close to a beach!!

Med school is really what you make of it. The environment here is great for learning medicine which is why students like it so much. Nashville is nice since it has everything I need (nightlife/shopping/big city) while not being an annoying place to live (could you imagine going to med school and having to live in Manhattan? that's not the best environment to learn IMO). I'm very happy here, and I'm glad I turned down a substantial amount of money from my state school to come here.

If you get in, come to the second look weekend (here and at the other schools you got into). Those weekends give you a better feel for the school than the interview day. Vandy will pay for your travel and hotel for that weekend which gives you really no reason not to revisit even if you are leaning toward another place for whatever reason.
 
Has anyone sent copies of their official transcripts to Vandy yet? In the packet that came with the acceptance letter it said to do this, but I wasn't sure if it is way to early and they meant to send them in this summer before matriculation.

Also... I just signed onto their application status website and my "application status" still says under the process of being reviewed, even though I already received an acceptance letter. I'm not worried about my status, but I did think it was a little odd since I heard from Dr. Zic a month ago. Is this the same for anyone else?

It's amazing how paranoia-inducing applying to medical school is...
 
I was accepted to Vanderbilt a few weeks ago. Not too sure if I'm going to go yet (need to see about the money situation), but I really liked it. Excited for second look weekend too!
 
I got my acceptance phone call last Sunday! When I went to the interview, they really impressed me and I liked Vanderbilt a lot more than I thought I would. I can't wait 'til second look weekend!
 
I got my acceptance phone call last Sunday! When I went to the interview, they really impressed me and I liked Vanderbilt a lot more than I thought I would. I can't wait 'til second look weekend!
 
I got my acceptance call on Oct 15th and I'm REALLY REALLY excited!!! I LOVED Vandy when I visited and after 10 other interviews, it's still one of my top choices!! <3 VANDY!!!!!!!!!! 😀

Congrats to everyone and I can't wait to meet you guys during second look weekend!!!! 🙂
 
Hey guys, I'm another first year at Vandy. Congrats on being accepted, or good luck if you were waitlisted. Just thought I'd let you know, everything is going great so far, and the anatomy lab is excellent (though the monitors aren't running yet).

I have a macbook like QM, and like he said - just minor annoyances. If you have Parallels or VMWare, even better. Don't worry about it if that's what you want.

If you have any questions about the school, the curriculum, Nashville, etc. just ask! 🙂

(I also went to Vandy undergrad)
 
For the benefit of those of us considering (strongly) Vandy, I was just wondering if you could share any of your reasons for choosing it. Outside of academics, which is obviously the majority of medschool, how is life at Vandy and in Nashville (social gatherings, community involvement, athletics)? I'm sure that everyone here would love to hear as many perspectives as possible.

Thanks!


Hey guys, I'm another first year at Vandy. Congrats on being accepted, or good luck if you were waitlisted. Just thought I'd let you know, everything is going great so far, and the anatomy lab is excellent (though the monitors aren't running yet).

I have a macbook like QM, and like he said - just minor annoyances. If you have Parallels or VMWare, even better. Don't worry about it if that's what you want.

If you have any questions about the school, the curriculum, Nashville, etc. just ask! 🙂

(I also went to Vandy undergrad)
 
For the benefit of those of us considering (strongly) Vandy, I was just wondering if you could share any of your reasons for choosing it. Outside of academics, which is obviously the majority of medschool, how is life at Vandy and in Nashville (social gatherings, community involvement, athletics)? I'm sure that everyone here would love to hear as many perspectives as possible.

Thanks!
Sure. So everyone usually has a few schools they are actually choosing from in the end, and your choice may be different from mine, in that you have different options to consider. From my perspective though, I was accepted to Vandy, Emory, and UT. I was a bit underwhelmed by UT and especially by Memphis, but it was also cheaper. Emory and Vandy are quite similar in my opinion (both undergrad and med school), and the factors on each side were price, location, facilities, and just general feel. As I mentioned earlier, I already had ties to Vandy, so that may have influenced my decision as well. I'm also a lifelong Tennessean and family is close by. All of these are things you should consider (and probably some I'm forgetting). I did feel that students seemed very friendly at all three places, so that didn't heavily influence my decision.

In the end, money was not a huge factor -- It's probably $20k over four years between UT and Emory (most expensive), and I didn't think that was worth basing a decision on. As I mentioned earlier, UT didn't impress me that much, and I was especially wary of Memphis. There's also the prestige factor, mythical or not. Vandy and Emory obviously have that over UT as well. So for the final decision (let me emphasize for me): I'm familiar with the city and the surrounding area, I'm a bit closer to home, and my girlfriend found a job here. I would not say that Vandy was head and shoulders above Emory, and I probably would've had a great experience there as well.

All of that being said, Vandy has been a great place so far, and I am very happy. From what I have seen of our class and the second years, people generally get along with each other very well (and are a lot of fun!). The professors are generally good with a few being outstanding -- Art Dalley cowrote COA, is the anatomy advisor to Stedman's, etc. The new anatomy lab is very nice, although I can't really compare it with the old one. If you're interested in research (actually interested or just for residency), the Emphasis program is setup to ensure you will get experience in that area.

As far as Nashville goes, I have enjoyed living here for the past few years. I come from a small rural town, so those of you from larger cities may find it lacking in some aspects. In general though, you have major sports teams, an okay selection of cuisine, decent nightlife (particularly for music lovers), and overall friendly Southern residents. It is a bit conservative for some, but it is still more urban/liberal than most of rural TN. Public transportation does suck, so you will need a car.

Sorry I've strayed from your question a bit. My class seems to do a decent amount of community service, and I think everyone has done a shift or two at Shade Tree, the local free clinic in East Nashville. I thought it was a great experience when I went. I'm not someone who's overly involved with activities, so I am probably not the best person to ask. Social involvement seems typical, at least for what I expected. People go to sporting events, movies, bars, or just hang out like normal people. The VMS1 listserve will regularly have invitations to go do something with other people, and there are also law school mixers if you want to hang out with those from outside med school for a change. Whether you're into Vandy athletics will probably depend on your sport of choice. Football is routinely disappointing and not well attended, this year being no different. Basketball is a lot of fun though, and we've made the sweet-16 twice in the last few years (and beat national champs Florida in the regular season last year). Baseball is also very good.

That's a bit long-winded, but I hope I've covered what you asked. If not, let me know, and I'll try and do better 🙂

Back to SFD...
 
Does anyone know the next time we should expect correspondence from Vanderbilt? When does the second look info get sent out?
 
Does anyone know the next time we should expect correspondence from Vanderbilt? When does the second look info get sent out?

in terms of correspondence from Vanderbilt, don't expect much after you get your acceptance notification letter. I think I got a health form to be filled out by matriculation sometime in February or March. other than that, I can't remember much else.

last year a student called me (sometime midMarch) to remind me about 2nd look and to ask if I had any questions about Vandy. I got an email about 2nd look a few weeks later and there's a website form you have to fill in to RSVP.

About 2nd look (at least the way it was this past spring): Vandy will put you up in the Vanderbilt Marriott (very nice) and pay for your flight (up to several hundred dollars, but I can't remember since I was close enough to drive to Nashville). You get dinner at LP Field (NFL stadium where the Titans play) on that Friday where you get to meet a bunch of current students/faculty...there's also some entertainment. On the Saturday, you meet up in Light Hall and get to hear more speeches about why you should come to school at Vanderbilt and so on. There's a nice dinner that evening at the Frist Center (an art museum downtown). Of course, each night people are going out so you can get a taste of the nightlife as well.
 
Got my acceptance a few weeks ago. So thrilled! Loved my visit and can really see myself going to Vandy.

I'm wondering if any current Vandy students can comment on PBL in the first two years of the curriculum. Too much, not enough, just right? How much do you feel you get out of PBL sessions?

I remember hearing that the first year is graded P/F. Is the second year P/F as well, or does the grading system change in the second year?
 
Got my acceptance a few weeks ago. So thrilled! Loved my visit and can really see myself going to Vandy.

I'm wondering if any current Vandy students can comment on PBL in the first two years of the curriculum. Too much, not enough, just right? How much do you feel you get out of PBL sessions?

I remember hearing that the first year is graded P/F. Is the second year P/F as well, or does the grading system change in the second year?

First year is P/F. Second year, it becomes H/P/F. Yeehaw.

I personally like the amount of PBL we have. The MFM course (biochem, genetics, etc) had a PBL session for 2 hours each Wednesday and the cases were generally useful for my learning. Our small group's preceptor was awesome (he had a dinner for us at his house after the course ended). SFD hasn't had PBL since anatomy lab is the small group learning, but the physio portion of the course has occasional small group sessions (we use the new CELA center with the mannequin patients). I believe we start up more "true" PBL in the Micro/Immuno course which starts after we finish SFD.

PBL is a necessary thing in my opinion since it gets you to think like a doctor. On the other hand, learning mostly by PBL is inefficient (you have to do your own research and you waste time looking up stuff that isnt important or is too general for the PBL problem). Vanderbilt has enough (IMO) PBL to get you to start thinking like a doctor. At the same time, we are a lecture school and you are going to be studying lecture notes and powerpoints (my style). I don't know what future courses will be like in terms of PBL so take my word with a grain of salt since I'm only halfway through firstyear! Things change from course to course so its hard for me to predict what 2nd year will be like in terms of PBL.
 
Thanks for the long answer! Sounds like Vandy has a nice mix of lecture and PBL in the first year.
 
I'd agree with QM. The PBL we had was only during the MFM block, and the purpose was mainly to get you in a "problem solving" mood. The cases were mostly trivial ("Molly found a lump," as our PBL guy put it), but enough to get you using clinical terms and thinking your way through a diagnosis. There have been a couple of PBL-type physio groups, but they struck me as more small groups than necessarily problem solving (as QM said). Unless something changes, plan on lecture learning 90% of the time.

Our PBL guy took us out for a round of beer though -- gotta love the faculty 🙂
 
How do you guys feel about sitting through so much lecture each day?
Also, how do you guys feel about Nashville?
 
How do you guys feel about sitting through so much lecture each day?
Also, how do you guys feel about Nashville?

They decreased the amount of lecture we had compared to the old curriculum (M1's started a new curriculum this year in case you didnt know). For example under the old curriculum, class would last until 4 or 5 at least two days a week (man, that would suck 👎). We think that getting out at 2 is late. For example, this week we were done (with gross lab and lecture) at noon on W, R, and F. M and T we were out at 2.


Lecture sucks, but I actually find it useful when I end up studying what was covered (I preview most lectures, but until if I skipped lecture I would have a harder time truly learning the material...this is just how I am, however, and you might learn very differnetly, since I need to read things AND hear things to truly understand). If you feel that lecture isn't useful, you can always spend the time learning the material from your notes, the powerpoints that are posted, and from the recorded podcasts of the lectures that are also available to us.

Honestly, I don't feel compelled to goto lecture, but I do because I learn well and I enjoy learning that way much more than trying to learn things entirely on my own. Nobody's holding your hand (if you don't want), and nobody's giving you advantageous (but it doesnt matter since M1 is p/f here) information in lecture, so the amount of lecture we have now really indicates the amount of material that you are expected to learn during the course of medical school.

As for Nashville, it a nice city to live in. Its cheap and convenient, but it also isn't Manhattan (a good thing, I can park everywhere I go in this city). The nightlife is definitely better than where I was before (a similar sized city) and the people are friendly. Nashville is safe (I don't worry about getting mugged when walking on the sidewalks here) and family-friendly. Many of the physicians that work at Vanderbilt have come here because Nashville is simply a better place to live than where they were previously. BTW, I hate country music and I am doing just fine.
 
Thanks for your thorough/helpful answers!

Nice to know you really can get along in Nashville if you hate country music 😛
 
Hey guys, I'm another first year at VMS and I can't say enough positive things about this place. Vandy was one of the first schools I heard from, and it was pretty early in the admissions process, so I actually didn't know from the get-go that this is where I wanted to be. I was fortunate to have some choices, some cheaper (my state school) and some that were higher 'ranked.' When I came back for second look weekend, I knew that this was where I wanted to be and withdrew everywhere else. I'd encourage all of you to choose a school that you think is a good fit for you and try to not concentrate and things that ultimately won't impact your experiences as a med student. Nashville is a great city with plenty to do. I hate country music, but I love it here. You don't have much free time in medical school, so when you do have a free night, afternoon or weekend, its good to be in a place where you can take full advantage of that time and have lots of fun. Nashville is also a very safe city (my dad's a cop) and real estate here is reasonable. Vandy is obviously a great school and everybody loves it here. My only complaint is the fact that there are too many Vols fans around here and not enough Gators. I guess nobody's perfect.
 
Usually the lecture time is not too bad, but every once in awhile you'll have something like small group (this Monday for me) that keeps you til 4pm. That's annoying but also rare. Physio is also mostly based on the textbook (Guyton), so I have skipped a fair share of them (cardio especially). I wouldn't be too worried if you are averse to going to lecture all of the time, though most of my friends do go. We have the mediasite which would allow you to "attend" later if you wanted to.

I'm a Vol fan and hate country music. 🙂
 
bump...

what happens at Vandy's second look - besides living it up in Nashville?
 
There doesn't seem to be a ton of info available about 2nd look weekend, but I think that last year it involved a couple nice dinners w/ student entertainment, more detailed tours of the facilities and hospitals, and general information sessions to get you juiced up about attending Vandy. I know that they also cover all your major costs for the weekend (airfare, hotel) which is great.

Can any current students give us a rundown of what to expect?

For those of you who are holding an acceptance for next year, what do you think will be the major decision point for actually attending (finances, other acceptances, 2nd look, etc...)? Let's keep this thread rolling. We can do better then a couple posts per week...

bump...

what happens at Vandy's second look - besides living it up in Nashville?
 
Finances could definitely make it or break it for me (because I'm not getting any help from my family!) but second look will be a big factor because we'll get to meet all of our potential class mates and get a feel for the "personality" of the class. Do any of you know if we can bring a significant other to the events that weekend?
 
Second look is basically what you all have described. Last year we had a couple of nice dinners with entertainment, met the second years, saw part of the hospital, etc. You can sign up for various activities later next year before the weekend, so not everyone does the same things. At night, people usually went downtown or to Hillsboro Village (bars). I know some people brought their spouses and significant others last year, but I don't know if the school pays for them or not.

Most of what I got out of it (besides the awesome free stuff/food) was a feel for the class. I was pretty sure I was coming here at that point, but I literally told my family that I didn't meet anyone I couldn't be friends with. It was a good feeling 🙂
 
For those of you who are holding an acceptance for next year, what do you think will be the major decision point for actually attending (finances, other acceptances, 2nd look, etc...)? Let's keep this thread rolling. We can do better then a couple posts per week...

I am psyched about Vandy. I like the curriculum... the recent changes seem to have resulted in a curriculum that is more "modern" yet not too PBL-intensive (for my taste). I like that the class size is a bit smaller than at many schools. Somehow I feel that a smaller class size might allow for more personalized attention from the faculty and administration. I like that the Emphasis program seems to allow plenty of opportunities for research.

I like the location... the cost of living is low and the winters are mild. I even like bluegrass. I like that Vandy's tuition is less than all of the other private schools I have been accepted at.

More M1s and M2s came by the admissions office during my visit than at any other school I have visited. They had just finished an exam, so maybe I just had the luck of the draw in that respect. Still, I was very impressed by how engaged they seemed to be with Vandy and with us.

The one area I know less about is the clinical training. I didn't hear much about years 3 and 4, since I met only M1s and M2s. Do students feel that the clinical skills classes in years 1 and 2 are adequate preparation for third year? How satisfied are students with their rotations? What is the teaching environment on the wards like?

I will probably go to Vandy. The main thing that could sway me away would be an awesome financial aid package from another school. Oh, and if I get into Penn, that could perhaps sway me away. But yeah, Penn is a longshot.

I would love to hear others' thoughts!
 
I like that the class size is a bit smaller than at many schools. Somehow I feel that a smaller class size might allow for more personalized attention from the faculty and administration.

The one area I know less about is the clinical training. I didn't hear much about years 3 and 4, since I met only M1s and M2s. Do students feel that the clinical skills classes in years 1 and 2 are adequate preparation for third year? How satisfied are students with their rotations? What is the teaching environment on the wards like?

The small(er) class size was something I never thought of until I got here, but its a major advantage compared to other similar schools. Obviously, educational resources aren't always easily 'scaled up' whether the resources are human (in terms of deans and support staff) or physical (classroom/lab space, library space, educational technologies such as the fake computerized plastic patients that every school seems to have these days). The 'best' small group leaders inherently get diluted out if you have a larger class, making the experience less uniform for all students, you get where I'm going. Probably the most ideal medical school in the country purely in terms of providing a medical education would be Mayo, since they only have a class size of 40 or so, and the institution has 3 branches in the country...talk about being able to provide personal attention. Vanderbilt comes closer to approximating that type of experience than the other medical schools that I applied to. The last thing you want in a med school is to feel like you are number, especially when you are paying lots of money.

I really don't know much about m3/m4. The school redid the curriculum about 2 years ago for the clincial years. They added 'intersession' weeks between rotations to act as a debriefing/briefing period to reflect on the just completed rotation and to prepare for the upcoming one. At any school, you're going to be very busy in M3, and M4 is going to be rather laid back.
 
Somehow I feel that a smaller class size might allow for more personalized attention from the faculty and administration.

You're right.

I like that the Emphasis program seems to allow plenty of opportunities for research.

right again.


The one area I know less about is the clinical training. I didn't hear much about years 3 and 4, since I met only M1s and M2s. Do students feel that the clinical skills classes in years 1 and 2 are adequate preparation for third year? How satisfied are students with their rotations? What is the teaching environment on the wards like?

I'm sorry you didn't get to meet any 3, 4th years. Usually there is an information session before lunch. Perhaps you were there during a 3rd year exam week or during 4th year interviewing (now) times. I'll do what I can to help you out with your questions and propagandize you.

Third year goes like this: 4 x 12 week rotations = surgery, medicine, and psych/neuro and peds/obGYN share their blocks. Each block starts with 1 wk intersession. Intersession = 2.5 days whole class together didactics and small group, 2.5 days specific to your rotation to start. Surgery, for example, has knot tying class and lectures on acute abdomen (does belly pain = surgery and how to figure that out).

Medicine = 3 x 3 week rotations (1 or 2 general medicine, usually one at the VA plus subspecialties like GI, Pulm, ID, Cards, etc.) and then 2 weeks of random days in outpatient clinic so you have time to study for your exam. Typical 1 or 2 interns, an upper level, 1 or 2 students, and an attending. Call is q4-6 'till midnight or 2 am.

Surgery = 5 weeks general surgery (VA, colorectal, lap GI, etc.) and 2 x 2 weeks of subspecialty (ortho, anesthesia, ophtho, plastics, ENT, etc.) and 1 week critical care skills. Same typical team structure. Call is overnight q4-5 on general, varies on subspecialties (none on anesthesia, ENT, ophtho, but sometimes people will take call on, say, ortho to make a good impression if it's something you're planning on going into - that said, these 4 weeks have absolutely no impact on your grade or evaluations, only personal relationships built). Still trying to figure out how Dr. Tarpley made a colostomy out of a tin can (ask him!)

Neuro = 2 x 2.5 weeks on 2 services (I did peds and general neuro. Other options are consults, VA, stroke) you do ~q7-8 call until about midnight. Dr. Valdivia is the clerkship director and is awesome. He is high intensity, tech savvy, and wants Neuro to be the best clerkship. He has podcast lectures and oogles of internet resources.

Psych = 2 x 2.5 weeks on 2 services (outpatient, addictions, mood disorders, psychosis, etc.) Take call ~2x until midnight through this whole time. Everyone is happy (probably about their schedules and quality of life) and nice to you (because they know that if they weren't, absolutely no one would go into psych!)

Peds = 2 x 2.5 weeks on one outpatient service and one inpatient service. Call is q4 overnight on inpatient, none on outpatient.

Ob/GYN = 2.5 weeks on OB, 2.5 weeks on either B9 Gyn or Gyn Onc. Call is till 10pm x 2 on GYN and a complicated short/long call schedule which ends up being ~q5 overnight and ~q5 till 7pm. Dr. Rush is the clerkship director and has been awarded numerous teaching awards. He's enthusiastic, loves his job, loves teaching, and pimps (albeit nicely) non-stop (which is actually really good).


First two years prepare you VERY well for clinical years. Anything more to say about this? Never heard any kind of complaint about not being prepared.

All rotations are very well done. Lectures are organized for all of them and some rotations do better (Medicine and OB/Gyn) than others (Peds) at getting them organized and lecturers there consistently and on time (weakness of Neuro)

Teaching environment differs by attending and service. Surgery rounds are short and not much teaching, but you get more in the OR. Medicine rounds are full of teaching and you end up wishing they weren't after 3 hours of it. Since you are often a large part of the team, your personality can dramatically change the attitude of the team - so I would say rounds are partly whatever you are like (so I hope you like them!).

I will probably go to Vandy.

right again!

Hope that helps, PM me if anyone has any questions. I am interviewing and rarely check this site, so it may take me a bit to get back to you, but I'll try.

Good luck and I promise you won't regret Vandy.
 
Hey all, congrats to you guys who have heard back good news from Vandy! Such a beautiful and fantastic school.

I got an email today asking that I turn in a "release form" and a $50 application fee (post-interview). Does anyone know (1) where I got/can get this form, and (2) whether the $50 fee was one that I was supposed to pay along with my secondary, or whether Vandy double charges people before and after interviewing?

Thanks so much!
 
You can get this form on the applicant website with the user username/password they gave you to fill out your secondary (https://admissions.mc.vanderbilt.edu/md/applicant/app_logon.asp). If you click on "check application status" on the bottom, it will bring you to the checklist page with the release form. I think this was meant to be filled out before your interview date, but I'm sure it's not a big deal. I don't recall there being two $50 fees to pay, so if you've already paid it - or sent in the release form for that matter - you should give the admissions office a call to see why there is confusion.

Good luck!

Hey all, congrats to you guys who have heard back good news from Vandy! Such a beautiful and fantastic school.

I got an email today asking that I turn in a "release form" and a $50 application fee (post-interview). Does anyone know (1) where I got/can get this form, and (2) whether the $50 fee was one that I was supposed to pay along with my secondary, or whether Vandy double charges people before and after interviewing?

Thanks so much!
 
I'm sorry you didn't get to meet any 3, 4th years. Usually there is an information session before lunch. Perhaps you were there during a 3rd year exam week or during 4th year interviewing (now) times. I'll do what I can to help you out with your questions and propagandize you.

Patzan, thank you SO MUCH for the incredibly detailed outline of third year at Vandy! It is so helpful to have an idea of what the rotation schedules are like, and it is great to hear that students feel their first- and second-year clinical training prepared them well for rotations.

As an applicant, I feel it is very easy for us to get caught up in examining the differences in first- and second- year curricula at various schools, since the classroom setting is familiar to all of us. I find it much more difficult to ask educated questions about third and fourth year. So thanks again for explaining how things work at Vandy! I really appreciate it!
 
I just wanted to say that Vandy gave me one of the best Christmas gifts ever. 🙂 I'm looking forward to the second look weekend.
 
Have you all started to wrap your heads around the whole financial aid stuff? I'm starting to research how the whole process works and the necessary steps for getting the ball rolling so that a financial aid package can be generated by Vandy. Does anyone have some advise, or lessons learned? Is there anything specific to Vanderbilt that needs to be done?

Happy New Year.
 
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