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Lupin21 said:
That is probably a good thing. Going out and living life is actually the best thing you can do for yourself. No matter what profession you end up choosing, having a variety of life experience and learning how to adapt to the world around you and trying new things constantly is what creates a well rounded individual capable of anything.
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I agree with this so much.
 
AnimaLover said:
Holy crap guys. I'm not stupid enough to go into Vet school without volunteering or any education. I don't know why you guys think I'm so stupid but just because I'm 15 doesn't mean ****. Look at that bolded part up there, I'm guessing you guys missed those 2 sentences. I am going to volunteer. I just wanted to see some of the requirements first to see if I could manage them. And plan ahead.
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Woah I'm sensing some hostility here kiddo!! Keep in mind all these lovely people are here to help you! Its a huge life changing process that requires a lot of time, patience, and hard work! Most if not all of these commenters have been in your exact shoes, have made mistakes along the way, and are trying to convince you to not make the same mistakes. Sit back, breathe, take all the advice in. Remember it's not a personal attack it's all in your best interest 🙂
 
Lupin21 said:
That is probably a good thing. Going out and living life is actually the best thing you can do for yourself. No matter what profession you end up choosing, having a variety of life experience and learning how to adapt to the world around you and trying new things constantly is what creates a well rounded individual capable of anything.
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*Reads while sipping alcohol and watching TV.* 😉

(I'm old worldly experience involves people, the more clients I deal with, the less I like people and want to interact with them.)
 
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DVMDream said:
*Reads while sipping alcohol and watching TV.* 😉

(I'm old worldly experience involves people, the more clients I deal with, the less I like people and want to interact with them.)
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That doesn't sound good. I could understand your perspective though. Also possibly within these next few weeks, I'll probably be volunteering some place. Just depends on school. Also alcohol is bad for you 😉
 
I say this from a place of honesty and encouragement. One of the most important things to grasp in this field is maturity. Being able to handle trials, difficulty and deal with it without losing your sense of self. This process will be difficult, but you will hopefully discover yourself! I wish you the best of luck 🙂
 
Coopah said:
I say this from a place of honesty and encouragement. One of the most important things to grasp in this field is maturity. Being able to handle trials, difficulty and deal with it without losing your sense of self. This process will be difficult, but you will hopefully discover yourself! I wish you the best of luck 🙂
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Thank you very much. Also what are trials?
 
AnimaLover said:
That's a fact right there. Alcohol is amazing, at the right consumption.
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kcoughli said:
You're 15?... 😵
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AnimaLover said:
Yeah :laugh:
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(also, my post:like ratio is exactly 1:1 as I post this, which I find entertaining)
 
AnimalLover, you need to take SEVERAL seats. I don't believe for a second that you were "just frustrated" and "read tone wrong". You came onto a forum and were defensive from the get-go against people trying to give honest advice - people who give of their time freely to help us hopeful pre-vets. Folks are bringing up things like volunteering and learning from a vet and developing good study habits because you either a) didn't address them initially, or b) asked a DIRECT QUESTION about them. You're asking questions that have different answers based on who they apply to, and so you will get different answers and may have different experiences based on who YOU are as a person. No one can answer whether you're cut out for vet med, because you offered little to no information on what makes you think you ARE cut out for it. Being told "you'd be good at this" and liking animals and being smart does not a vet make.

You are VERY young, but you are at the age where I decided that I didn't want to pursue vet med. Guess what? Horrible idea! I loved my college career and was able to skate by being a lazy ass and do okay with a politics degree, but I absolutely HATED my job when I got out. You need to EXPERIENCE a career before you decide it's for you - that is my BIGGEST piece of advice. Don't think "I could never be successful, science isn't my THING" or "I'll never be able to make a 3.8 GPA to get into my one and only dream vet school, so why bother?" That is the exact WRONG attitude to have. If you tell yourself you can't do something, you're taking the easy way out. I told myself the same thing - despite graduating with a 3.9 GPA in high school and never making lower than a B in a single science class, I decided science wasn't for me, simply because I had to work harder at it. I took the easy road to a politics degree, because I am naturally strong in languages and writing. Just because something is EASIER does not mean it is RIGHT for you. It took me a failed political career, the humiliation and depression of moving back in with my parents at 23, and taking a menial part-time job as a dog trainer for me to gather the courage to apply to UPenn's pre-vet post-college program to start my pre-reqs. It's horribly difficult, because I'm having to truly STUDY for the first time - and at a high level of rigor - and it's making me question how I'll do in vet school. But I'm here because I WANT it. I will do whatever it takes to get into vet school, one way or another, even if it takes multiple application cycles. I have seen the life as a veterinarian while working as a vet tech, and having close relationships with multiple vets who are even younger than me. I KNOW what I'm getting myself into, and I have never been so sure of any career decision in my entire life.

If you do not want to put work in to be as good a candidate as you possibly can, then I would agree that vet med probably isn't right for you. I'm not saying you aren't willing to do that, but you do nothing but talk about your "limits" and what you can "realistically" achieve. If you break yourself down like that, you WILL NOT succeed at this. You need to experience the life of a veterinarian, and perhaps take some communication classes. You need to be gracious when people give you advice, because that's LITERALLY what this forum is for. If you rise to every perceived slight or insult, you will not last 5 minutes in a veterinary clinic.

*end rant*
 
EB73674 said:
AnimalLover, you need to take SEVERAL seats. I don't believe for a second that you were "just frustrated" and "read tone wrong". You came onto a forum and were defensive from the get-go against people trying to give honest advice - people who give of their time freely to help us hopeful pre-vets. Folks are bringing up things like volunteering and learning from a vet and developing good study habits because you either a) didn't address them initially, or b) asked a DIRECT QUESTION about them. You're asking questions that have different answers based on who they apply to, and so you will get different answers and may have different experiences based on who YOU are as a person. No one can answer whether you're cut out for vet med, because you offered little to no information on what makes you think you ARE cut out for it. Being told "you'd be good at this" and liking animals and being smart does not a vet make.

You are VERY young, but you are at the age where I decided that I didn't want to pursue vet med. Guess what? Horrible idea! I loved my college career and was able to skate by being a lazy ass and do okay with a politics degree, but I absolutely HATED my job when I got out. You need to EXPERIENCE a career before you decide it's for you - that is my BIGGEST piece of advice. Don't think "I could never be successful, science isn't my THING" or "I'll never be able to make a 3.8 GPA to get into my one and only dream vet school, so why bother?" That is the exact WRONG attitude to have. If you tell yourself you can't do something, you're taking the easy way out. I told myself the same thing - despite graduating with a 3.9 GPA in high school and never making lower than a B in a single science class, I decided science wasn't for me, simply because I had to work harder at it. I took the easy road to a politics degree, because I am naturally strong in languages and writing. Just because something is EASIER does not mean it is RIGHT for you. It took me a failed political career, the humiliation and depression of moving back in with my parents at 23, and taking a menial part-time job as a dog trainer for me to gather the courage to apply to UPenn's pre-vet post-college program to start my pre-reqs. It's horribly difficult, because I'm having to truly STUDY for the first time - and at a high level of rigor - and it's making me question how I'll do in vet school. But I'm here because I WANT it. I will do whatever it takes to get into vet school, one way or another, even if it takes multiple application cycles. I have seen the life as a veterinarian while working as a vet tech, and having close relationships with multiple vets who are even younger than me. I KNOW what I'm getting myself into, and I have never been so sure of any career decision in my entire life.

If you do not want to put work in to be as good a candidate as you possibly can, then I would agree that vet med probably isn't right for you. I'm not saying you aren't willing to do that, but you do nothing but talk about your "limits" and what you can "realistically" achieve. If you break yourself down like that, you WILL NOT succeed at this. You need to experience the life of a veterinarian, and perhaps take some communication classes. You need to be gracious when people give you advice, because that's LITERALLY what this forum is for. If you rise to every perceived slight or insult, you will not last 5 minutes in a veterinary clinic.

*end rant*
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Alright buddy. I will sorta defend myself here and no I'm not being aggressive which everybody seems to think lol (No offense). I know what I feel. Believe what you want but I was frustrated. You don't feel what I feel so you CANNOT say my feelings. Second off, that bolded part, I left little information on purpose. I even said in a post that I didn't give out a lot of information and just gave a base of it. Also I said I was going to volunteer. Actually here in few weeks. I never said I wasn't. I'm not stupid enough to not volunteer. And also I mean I know my limits. And I was wanting to know requirements not only to know if I could succeed but to plan ahead for the future. Good story by the way.
 
AnimaLover said:
Alright buddy. I will sorta defend myself here and no I'm not being aggressive which everybody seems to think lol (No offense). I know what I feel. Believe what you want but I was frustrated. You don't feel what I feel so you CANNOT say my feelings. Second off, that bolded part, I left little information on purpose. I even said in a post that I didn't give out a lot of information and just gave a base of it. Also I said I was going to volunteer. Actually here in few weeks. I never said I wasn't. I'm not stupid enough to not volunteer. And also I mean I know my limits. And I was wanting to know requirements not only to know if I could succeed but to plan ahead for the future. Good story by the way.
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Here you are getting defensive and aggressive again when people are just trying to help you and give you advice. If you don't give all the information, people don't know that you're leaving it out. So they tell you to do that thing you happened to leave out. Because they don't know you were planning on it. Because you didn't say you were.

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SkiOtter said:
Here you are getting defensive and aggressive again when people are just trying to help you and give you advice. If you don't give all the information, people don't know that you're leaving it out. So they tell you to do that thing you happened to leave out. Because they don't know you were planning on it. Because you didn't say you were.
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AnimaLover said:
Alright buddy. I will sorta defend myself here and no I'm not being aggressive which everybody seems to think lol (No offense).
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Yet again, you people just cannot understand. What a horrible place to ask for advice honestly. Okay first off, I even said I'm not being aggressive. I was just stating and not being aggressive. I even said that because I knew somebody would come along and I say I'm being "aggressive". I even said in a post that I was leaving information out. And I said I was planning on volunteering too. Not on the original post but still said it. If people are going to call me out like that then they need to read everything.
 
AnimaLover said:
Yet again, you people just cannot understand. What a horrible place to ask for advice honestly. Okay first off, I even said I'm not being aggressive. I was just stating and not being aggressive. I even said that because I knew somebody would come along and I say I'm being "aggressive". I even said in a post that I was leaving information out. And I said I was planning on volunteering too. Not on the original post but still said it. If people are going to call me out like that then they need to read everything.
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AnimaLover said:
Yet again, you people just cannot understand. What a horrible place to ask for advice honestly. Okay first off, I even said I'm not being aggressive. I was just stating and not being aggressive. I even said that because I knew somebody would come along and I say I'm being "aggressive". I even said in a post that I was leaving information out. And I said I was planning on volunteering too. Not on the original post but still said it. If people are going to call me out like that then they need to read everything.
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Yeah but the thing is, you didn't say it in the first post. People politely responded to you and said you should volunteer and shadow and get a feel of what this field is like before you dive in head first and then you just got all defensive and started saying "WELL I NEVER SAID I WASNT GONNA DO THAT!!!!1!!1!1!1!!!" But you didn't say you were going to and people didn't want to assume you were going to since you were asking for advice. Go out and find somewhere to volunteer and shadow, see if you're interested in this field, and THEN figure out the logistics of taking the courses necessary. You don't know if you can't pass them. You're 15, you will change, your study habits will change, your intelligence will change, you'll build on the upper level classes with knowledge from the lower level classes.
Everyone on here is trying to advise you to not just jump in head first and to actually get experience in the field before fully deciding this is the field for you since it was other people in your life saying you should consider it. Go get some experience and keep your high school grades up so you can get scholarships to lower your undergrad debt. Figure out if the field is right for you before writing it off and saying you can't do it because you "know your limits." TBH you really don't.
 
AnimaLover said:
Yet again, you people just cannot understand. What a horrible place to ask for advice honestly. Okay first off, I even said I'm not being aggressive. I was just stating and not being aggressive. I even said that because I knew somebody would come along and I say I'm being "aggressive". I even said in a post that I was leaving information out. And I said I was planning on volunteering too. Not on the original post but still said it. If people are going to call me out like that then they need to read everything.
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If someone starts a sentence with "no offense but..." that doesn't make what they say next inherently unoffensive (in fact, usually it ends up being offensive). So, saying you're not being aggressive doesn't make it not aggressive. Honestly, tone is so difficult to read over the internet as it is, sometimes if you read something that feels offensive it's often better to just step away from the computer for a bit.
 
Without you taking this the wrong way: you are 15- I promise you that you don't know where you'll be in 10 years or what you can accomplish. Don't count yourself out 6-7 years before you even apply to vet school. If you go into undergrad thinking you'll fail, you will. It's not that you're not smart enough or you have limits, it's all a head game. I suggest taking the idea that you can't off the table. If you shadow and volunteer and fall in love with veterinary medicine then you are capable of getting all of the prerequisite courses in college with hard work.
You sound like you're thinking too far ahead for your own good. Look at undergraduate schools with low debt and somewhere you'll be happy for 3-4 years, then once you've gotten there look into vet schools GPA requirements and GRE scores. Just do your best work all the time and you'll be setting yourself up to apply to undergrad in a few years, and then eventually to vet school.
Remember that if you end up in vet med you'll need to take tons of constructive critisim, so work on your response before those are the people you'll need LORs from.
 
kcoughli said:
If someone starts a sentence with "no offense but..." that doesn't make what they say next inherently unoffensive (in fact, usually it ends up being offensive). So, saying you're not being aggressive doesn't make it not aggressive. Honestly, tone is so difficult to read over the internet as it is, sometimes if you read something that feels offensive it's often better to just step away from the computer for a bit.
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That's exactly why I said I'm not being aggressive because the tone is hard to read. I said I'm not being aggressive because I wasn't really trying to and I wanted people to know that I wasn't. Also when I said no offense, I said that because I didn't mean for anybody to take what I said offensive.
 
LabLuv004 said:
Without you taking this the wrong way: you are 15- I promise you that you don't know where you'll be in 10 years or what you can accomplish. Don't count yourself out 6-7 years before you even apply to vet school. If you go into undergrad thinking you'll fail, you will. It's not that you're not smart enough or you have limits, it's all a head game. I suggest taking the idea that you can't off the table. If you shadow and volunteer and fall in love with veterinary medicine then you are capable of getting all of the prerequisite courses in college with hard work.
You sound like you're thinking too far ahead for your own good. Look at undergraduate schools with low debt and somewhere you'll be happy for 3-4 years, then once you've gotten there look into vet schools GPA requirements and GRE scores. Just do your best work all the time and you'll be setting yourself up to apply to undergrad in a few years, and then eventually to vet school.
Remember that if you end up in vet med you'll need to take tons of constructive critisim, so work on your response before those are the people you'll need LORs from.
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I like it. I know other people said this. I like the way you put it and worded it.
 
AnimaLover said:
I like it. I know other people said this. I like the way you put it and worded it.
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You should probably quit being passive aggressive about how much you don't like how other people said it.

Believe me, we all hear you loud and clear and will take note.
 
LetItSnow said:
You should probably quit being passive aggressive about how much you don't like how other people said it.

Believe me, we all hear you loud and clear and will take note.
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Omg you people are absolutely ridiculous to be honest. Not all of you. First I'm not actually trying to be passive aggressive. I do think people could word stuff better but that's not what I'm trying to do. I'm complimenting so I can bring positivity to the chat and tell people how nice of a job they did. Since I'm trying to be nice and not aggressive. I've just decided to start complimenting people. I would compliment if you guys would just stop talking smack about me.
 
AnimaLover said:
I would compliment if you guys would just stop talking smack about me.
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I have no need of your compliments. Quite honestly, the opinion of a 15 year old means squat to me. “No offense....”

You asked for advice, you got it. Up to you to decide how to receive it. So far, how you’ve received it says far more about you than anyone else.

Cheers.
 
AnimaLover said:
Omg you people are absolutely ridiculous to be honest. Not all of you. First I'm not actually trying to be passive aggressive. I do think people could word stuff better but that's not what I'm trying to do. I'm complimenting so I can bring positivity to the chat and tell people how nice of a job they did. Since I'm trying to be nice and not aggressive. I've just decided to start complimenting people. I would compliment if you guys would just stop talking smack about me.
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We are not talking smack about you.
 
AnimaLover said:
Omg you people are absolutely ridiculous to be honest. Not all of you. First I'm not actually trying to be passive aggressive. I do think people could word stuff better but that's not what I'm trying to do. I'm complimenting so I can bring positivity to the chat and tell people how nice of a job they did. Since I'm trying to be nice and not aggressive. I've just decided to start complimenting people. I would compliment if you guys would just stop talking smack about me.
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Umm... rather certain I repeatedly talked to you positively and told you to NOT discount yourself and tried to encourage you and all you have ever given me is grief and utter BS. So, no, you are complimenting people that you choose to compliment. You are being a child. You are listening to what you want to listen to and being retaliatory towards everyone else. If you can not let things that don't "sound right" to you just roll off your back, then being a veterinarian is 1,000% not the right career for you. The clients will eat you alive.
 
AnimaLover said:
I like it. I know other people said this. I like the way you put it and worded it.
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Nobody cares which ways you like or don't like. People answered your questions out of courtesy and only wanted to help. It's safe to say that everyone here is older and more experienced in the vet med field than you. Honest advice from experienced people is far more valuable than just listing out the requirements for you. For that, you can just go to vet school websites.

You kept saying you don't want to "waste your time" doing volunteering in the field if the requirements for vet med is "above your level". Believe me, the time you spent volunteering won't be wasted, even if you ended up not going to vet school or having a career in the vet med field. You will always learn something from it. Like interaction with other people, like how to work with your peers, your supervisor. How to handle work assigned to you, and how to handle criticisms whether or not you're at fault. These are real world experience that you'll be benefiting from all your life.
 
DVMDream said:
Umm... rather certain I repeatedly talked to you positively and told you to NOT discount yourself and tried to encourage you and all you have ever given me is grief and utter BS. So, no, you are complimenting people that you choose to compliment. You are being a child. You are listening to what you want to listen to and being retaliatory towards everyone else. If you can not let things that don't "sound right" to you just roll off your back, then being a veterinarian is 1,000% not the right career for you. The clients will eat you alive.
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AnimaLover said:
I'm complimenting so I can bring positivity to the chat and tell people how nice of a job they did. Since I'm trying to be nice and not aggressive. I've just decided to start complimenting people.
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Look at that bolded part for me. I said "I've just decided to start complimenting people." Which means I just started. I didn't before which I'm NOW deciding to. JUST decided to start and I know I didn't before. But now I am. I know I repeated myself, it's because hopefully I could get my point across since it seems you guys always miss a sentence or two then try arguing about it. No offense...
 
AnimaLover said:
Omg you people are absolutely ridiculous to be honest. Not all of you. First I'm not actually trying to be passive aggressive. I do think people could word stuff better but that's not what I'm trying to do. I'm complimenting so I can bring positivity to the chat and tell people how nice of a job they did. Since I'm trying to be nice and not aggressive. I've just decided to start complimenting people. I would compliment if you guys would just stop talking smack about me.
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Read the two parts I bolded. They contradict each other.

It's fine to get frustrated with people, but this is what I meant in my previous post. Just saying "no offense" doesn't make it magically not-offensive.

Either way, you're a kid (since I'm twice your age, think that's fair to say) so I'm okay cutting you all kinds of slack. I'm sure you're just frustrated and over-reading tone, everyone's guilty of it at some point or another.

I think you've gotten some good advice and probably know what next steps to take. Good luck on your journey and know that this community will be here for support (despite how you may feel about it now, it truly is).

~ Buddy #1
 
AnimaLover said:
Look at that bolded part for me. I said "I've just decided to start complimenting people." Which means I just started. I didn't before which I'm NOW deciding to. JUST decided to start and I know I didn't before. But now I am. I know I repeated myself, it's because hopefully I could get my point across since it seems you guys always miss a sentence or two then try arguing about it. No offense...
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You forgot the part about "when it is what I want to hear and only then".
 
AnimaLover said:
Look at that bolded part for me. I said "I've just decided to start complimenting people." Which means I just started. I didn't before which I'm NOW deciding to. JUST decided to start and I know I didn't before. But now I am. I know I repeated myself, it's because hopefully I could get my point across since it seems you guys always miss a sentence or two then try arguing about it. No offense...
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I keep reading this thread and feeling like I'm back in high school 

Everyone is misunderstanding everyone else and causing drama out of nothing.

Animalover- Take the high road, disregard any feelings and ask any other questions you have and they will be answered politely by people with the information. If you have no more questions then you're done! Feeding a cycle of "he said, she said" only perpetuates drama and we are all above that.

This forum is a wonderful place for anyone interested in veterinary medicine and we all want to be inviting for those who want to learn more about the profession as well as the process to get there.

Best of luck with all of your endeavors!

Sent from my SM-N910V using SDN mobile
 
MAD MIKE O7 said:
I keep reading this thread and feeling like I'm back in high school 

Everyone is misunderstanding everyone else and causing drama out of nothing.
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I agree with this. I was actually going to ask some questions then everybody just got on my ass for whatever ****ty reason. Apart from all that crap, when I do volunteer which I will, what will I do?
 
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