Waitlist Support Group 2017-2018

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premed4747 said:
Just to clarify I'm rooting for all you guys. I actually am waitlisted at one of my top choices as well and came here to join the club. I just felt like the self-pity was a little too much and people could benefit from a little perspective. I don't think I have been rude at all.
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‘What is wrong with you people’ is generally considered rude
 
The way I see it is, we don't know the situations of each and everyone of us waiting here. We don't know their journey, and merely have an idea/imagine how their situation is based on our own. Regardless, everyone of us have worked for it and want it bad, it is a life-changing chapter in our lives so it is totally fine to show concern.

I do agree that we have to practice self-care and do ourselves the favor of not considering this "the end", but there's nothing wrong with expressing one's feelings and coming here for support and to vent.

Lets be patient and try to be there for each other during these difficult and stressing times 😀
 
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Y'all gotta remember that we made it to interviews and even waitlists. We could've been rejected post-II or never received an II. Think about it, most schools only interview 10% or less of people so that means you're in the top 90% plus for that respective school. That's a significant achievement. Even if you have to apply again wouldnt you rather have had interview experience and had some interviews in general to know that your app was at least somewhat competitive? Think of the positives!!!! And it's still not over!!:banana:
 
TitleCONTEnders said:
JUST GOT THE CALL!!!! IM GONNA BE A DOCTOR!!!!

Keep the faith everyone! Wishing the best for everyone!
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It’s awesome when people who you see post in here frequently get to post THAT post!!! Congratz! What school?

Met with my undergrad advisor today, applying to gap year things and re writing primary.... feelsbadman, but tryin to stay optimistic as always for two WL’s and one pending
 
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gyngyn said:
There have been multiple acceptances at Mt. Sinai since we last spoke.
There are new acceptances at Einstein, as well.
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Bummer about Mt. Sinai. Only one person posted on the school specific thread so I was hopeful more were coming but I guess they already came. Damn.
 
Anyone know if it means anything to have a netID and studentID number listed on the portal for a school you're WL'ed at??? It definitely wasn't there until recently, although I'm not sure exactly when it popped up. Any insight on whether this a good sign, or just a way for them to keep applicants organized?
 
TitleCONTEnders said:
JUST GOT THE CALL!!!! IM GONNA BE A DOCTOR!!!!

Keep the faith everyone! Wishing the best for everyone!
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Oh man huge congratulations! This thread blew up since I’ve been gone all day with the job search in tow. I’ve been pulling for a few people this cycle and I’m really glad you got in Doctor
 
I think the hardest part of this process is the unknown- it’s almost like wondering how your relationship is going and waiting to see if a significant other is going to break up with you. There are so many questions. I went through something similar this weekend with regards to moving forward and the stress of the weekend, following a year of what is undeniably the most stressful year I’ve had for reasons both related and unrelated to med school applications, was probably the most stress I’ve been under. And it felt awful. I can only imagine how much worse it feels to have no idea if and where you might be going to med school. Rejections are disappointing, but a rejection is a decision with no ambiguity. Waitlists leave you wondering whether to move forward or still cling to some hope.


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houstonhandle said:
Does anyone (gyngyn 🙂 ) know if it is okay for re-applicants to use the same personal statement?
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A physician I shadowed that used to be on an adcom told me that if your personal statement is great then you don’t have to rewrite it. He said adcoms will suggest for you to rewrite it because it gives you a “better sense of control.” Still don’t know how I feel about this advice...
 
Anyone have any information on HPWL at Jefferson or the alternate list at Mt. Sinai? Trying to gauge whether or not I should start looking at apartments and what not at my current school or hold out for these two which were two of my top 3 choices. I want to hold out as long as possible but do not want to risk anything at my current school. Any information or advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
 
houstonhandle said:
Does anyone (gyngyn 🙂 ) know if it is okay for re-applicants to use the same personal statement?
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Personally I re-write mine. If you got IIs then that means your PS is good enough but I feel like adding more reflection can only help show that you took into consideration some ways you could improve your app. I went with a similar PS but have a different focus on it and also tied in my ECs to that the activity section and PS together tells an overall story that helps connect the ECs together.
 
Not to re-hash a sore subject, but I think it is extremely easy to put all of your self-worth into this one thing that just so happens to be what will determine your future career and ambitions. When you are working on this for years, staying up late studying, sacrificing social and family life, dedicating months to studying for the MCAT, it's hard not to tie this process in with your self worth.

I know I did it. I put every ounce of my emotional investment into the application process, ignored my family, became a combination of a zombie/robot just going through the days without any desire to do the other things I loved. When I saw my doctor towards the end of the latter half of the cycle she diagnosed me with clinical depression.

Some people may have better coping mechanisms in terms of distancing their self worth from their successes in getting into medical school. Others like myself may not. Like gyngyn said, leave the judgment at the door.

On another note, I am still following this thread and rooting for everyone here, whether you are already planning to reapply or still waiting to hear back from schools. Waitlist movement has definitely been slow compared to years past... NYMC and Wake Forest have said their classes are completely full even though historically they pull 1/3 - 1/2 of their students of the WL.
 
TommyTsunami2018 said:
Anyone have any information on HPWL at Jefferson or the alternate list at Mt. Sinai? Trying to gauge whether or not I should start looking at apartments and what not at my current school or hold out for these two which were two of my top 3 choices. I want to hold out as long as possible but do not want to risk anything at my current school. Any information or advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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@TommyTsunami2018 gyngyn said yesterday that there has been alternate list movement at Mt. Sinai. I’m on that one with you and I’m no longer holding out hope since they seem to like to send acceptances in groups and I wasnt in yesterday’s group.
I don’t know anything about Jefferson.
 
If you guys are on a ranked waitlist and don't know your exact position I would recommend calling the school and asking your chances of getting in based on the current movement rate. I called today and was told that my chances were really low at this point. It's more relieving to know rather than remain hopeful for nothing. So go ahead and call guys!
 
pewpew95 said:
Not to re-hash a sore subject, but I think it is extremely easy to put all of your self-worth into this one thing that just so happens to be what will determine your future career and ambitions. When you are working on this for years, staying up late studying, sacrificing social and family life, dedicating months to studying for the MCAT, it's hard not to tie this process in with your self worth.

I know I did it. I put every ounce of my emotional investment into the application process, ignored my family, became a combination of a zombie/robot just going through the days without any desire to do the other things I loved. When I saw my doctor towards the end of the latter half of the cycle she diagnosed me with clinical depression.

Some people may have better coping mechanisms in terms of distancing their self worth from their successes in getting into medical school. Others like myself may not. Like gyngyn said, leave the judgment at the door.

On another note, I am still following this thread and rooting for everyone here, whether you are already planning to reapply or still waiting to hear back from schools. Waitlist movement has definitely been slow compared to years past... NYMC and Wake Forest have said their classes are completely full even though historically they pull 1/3 - 1/2 of their students of the WL.
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This. I was a re-applicant this cycle, and although I wish I would have gotten in last year, I am happy with the time I've had to rediscover my passions outside of medicine and strengthen relationships with my friends and family. For me, that lesson was worth the lost year of income.

I, too, check in with this thread every day to cheer you all on. I hope everyone gets accepted at their dream school and feel the joy every time I see a "I GOT IN!" post.
 
I emailed Witzburg last week and he said the class is over subscribed and they aren't pulling from the WL yet
From Boston University thread
 
Called 2 of my WL schools in CA: one is a full class now barring any last minute drops/cascade, the other simply said there will be more movement. Not going to share which schools, too many pm's to answer - sorry! Just keep emotionally supporting each other with wholesome posts guys and gals!
 
MareNostrummm said:
If you guys are on a ranked waitlist and don't know your exact position I would recommend calling the school and asking your chances of getting in based on the current movement rate. I called today and was told that my chances were really low at this point. It's more relieving to know rather than remain hopeful for nothing. So go ahead and call guys!
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Is it bad to call and ask that for a non-ranked WL? Don’t want to seem clingy and annoying but also please let me in
 
TommyTsunami2018 said:
Anyone have any information on HPWL at Jefferson or the alternate list at Mt. Sinai? Trying to gauge whether or not I should start looking at apartments and what not at my current school or hold out for these two which were two of my top 3 choices. I want to hold out as long as possible but do not want to risk anything at my current school. Any information or advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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HPWL at Jefferson has been moving along, at least since last month.
 
medschoolzombie said:
I'm still wondering why WL movement is so slow this year. I find it really hard to believe that the majority of schools coordinated so well that they retained all the people they initially accepted but maybe I'm just in denial lol
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Someone in the Tulane thread talked to an admissions member who told them how they are normally are 30 deep into the waitlist at this point in the cycle but have gone through less than 10 in the WL. I truly believe that this year's WL movement is overall less and it isn't just our delusions
 
Anaphase said:
How are you guys getting answers from the adcoms? Any time I ask them a question they tell me they cannot give me any information at this time.
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It's extremely school dependent.

in the case of the Tulane thread, I think the person was contacted by an adcom member that they've been accepted off the waitlist and was thus able to get insider info about WL movement that way
 
More speculation here, but the slow movement could be do to the increase competitiveness in applicants this year. More strong applicants -> less average number of IIs per applicant -> less number of applicants with multiple acceptances -> less waitlist movement. It will only get worse in future cycles.
 
Anaphase said:
How are you guys getting answers from the adcoms? Any time I ask them a question they tell me they cannot give me any information at this time.
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I think they only told me because I was so far at the bottom of the waitlist they knew I had no chance of getting in anyway... other people called and got a much more ambiguous answer.
 
Pylorii said:
More speculation here, but the slow movement could be do to the increase competitiveness in applicants this year. More strong applicants -> less average number of IIs per applicant -> less number of applicants with multiple acceptances -> less waitlist movement. It will only get worse in future cycles.
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Applicants are going to need to have longer and broader school lists from here on out. As a potential reapplicant next year, I've accepted that the competition is fierce and will be applying to ~50 schools. The more schools you apply to, the greater your odds become, but you can't let this be at the expense of the quality of your secondaries.
 
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Been mostly a lurker on this thread but was accepted to two of my three waitlist, including my number one choice just yesterday!
As with everyone who got in off the waitlist *insert motivational quote here*.
On a serious note though, don't give up! It seems like there is still a decent amount of movement from the threads I am following! Best of luck to everyone on here, rooting for you all!
 
The thread for my school has gone completely silent. I just want to know when the date is set that we will know anything about the waitlist but admissions has been so tight lipped about everything this cycle
 
Pylorii said:
More speculation here, but the slow movement could be do to the increase competitiveness in applicants this year. More strong applicants -> less average number of IIs per applicant -> less number of applicants with multiple acceptances -> less waitlist movement. It will only get worse in future cycles.
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But weirdly enough the number of applicants actually went down this year so it can't be that there's a ton more people applying. The average person probably has gotten multiple II and I'm sure many have gotten multiple acceptances so ideally there should be the same amount of spots open. I wonder if it's because more people aren't giving up their spots on the waitlists in an effort to get into a better school. There are a lot of people, anecdotally from here and reddit, that already have an acceptance but are still on multiple waitlists and holding multiple offers. If all those people went with what they have and got off the list, I imagine we would see a faster movement
 
medschoolzombie said:
But weirdly enough the number of applicants actually went down this year so it can't be that there's a ton more people applying. The average person probably has gotten multiple II and I'm sure many have gotten multiple acceptances so ideally there should be the same amount of spots open. I wonder if it's because more people aren't giving up their spots on the waitlists in an effort to get into a better school. There are a lot of people, anecdotally from here and reddit, that already have an acceptance but are still on multiple waitlists and holding multiple offers. If all those people went with what they have and got off the list, I imagine we would see a faster movement
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It's essentially that people have the 5 business days to reply (which apparently some schools give you more than that) but if some (or most) people decide literally the last minute everything will move slower, although it will still move eventually.

We have to remember just because someone withdraws on a Monday morning it doesn't necessarily mean someone will get off the WL Monday afternoon!!
 
boogiecousins94 said:
It's essentially that people have the 5 business days to reply (which apparently some schools give you more than that) but if some (or most) people decide literally the last minute everything will move slower, although it will still move eventually.

We have to remember just because someone withdraws on a Monday morning it doesn't necessarily mean someone will get off the WL Monday afternoon!!
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True, still weird that people and schools are moving so slow this year to make up their minds/fill spots. This wasn't as big of a problem in previous years
 
Hey guys, here's a totally healthy habit I've developed over the last month. Go to facebook and compare yourself to the accepted students in the class of 2022 group at your waitlisted school. But hey stop there? There are lots of school groups with students to compare yourself to. This will surely make you feel much better about yourself and you definitely won't experience crippling insecurity or anything like that.


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Rei02sDinnerParty said:
Hey guys, here's a totally healthy habit I've developed over the last month. Go to facebook and compare yourself to the accepted students in the class of 2022 group at your waitlisted school. But hey stop there? There are lots of school groups with students to compare yourself to. This will surely make you feel much better about yourself and you definitely won't experience crippling insecurity or anything like that.


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I would but I can’t even find them lol. Even Facebook wants to spare me that misery
 
medschoolzombie said:
But weirdly enough the number of applicants actually went down this year so it can't be that there's a ton more people applying. The average person probably has gotten multiple II and I'm sure many have gotten multiple acceptances so ideally there should be the same amount of spots open. I wonder if it's because more people aren't giving up their spots on the waitlists in an effort to get into a better school. There are a lot of people, anecdotally from here and reddit, that already have an acceptance but are still on multiple waitlists and holding multiple offers. If all those people went with what they have and got off the list, I imagine we would see a faster movement
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I know what you mean and I understand the number of applicants have decreased. My point was the number of qualified/strong applicants have probably increased with the amount of resources that have become available.
 
Rei02sDinnerParty said:
Hey guys, here's a totally healthy habit I've developed over the last month. Go to facebook and compare yourself to the accepted students in the class of 2022 group at your waitlisted school. But hey stop there? There are lots of school groups with students to compare yourself to. This will surely make you feel much better about yourself and you definitely won't experience crippling insecurity or anything like that.


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You are a lot like the accepted students. You got interviewed too! Many of the people who were chosen faced rejection too and maybe they are reapplicants (like me!) I know it's annoying that some people virtually face no barriers on their path but YOU are gonna appreciate the prize more once you finally get it. Turn your rejection into hunger! Once you finally get in and your sitting among your class you'll work THAT much harder because of how much of a struggle it was 🙂
 
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