By the way, you sir, are no Einstein. You are just another pre-med trying to game the system. There are plenty of honest people that get rejected each year. They deserve your spot.
Honestly, do you really want to go there? It's as if I told you in this discussion that people like you will just become tools who lack tolerance and realism who would never cut it in the field of medicine, and that it's doctors like you who end up developing drug and family abuse problems because you are so out of touch with reality. And thus, you should just drop out now and let people who can handle what medicine is really like in.. I'm not sure anymore if you are trying to offend me or trying to make a valid point.
There is a big difference between estimating the number of hours you spent and doubling the number of hours you spent or making up activities. Estimation is acceptable and actually desired by schools. If you estimate that you worked 3 hours per week in a lab, but neglect to say that you didn't work the week of Christmas and you were sick one week in October, this is not lying. Lying is saying I worked 400 hours when you only worked 200 hours, an example you gave in a previous post. Lying is saying you have clinical/shadowing/volunteer experience when you really did nothing.
No sir, lying is when you say something that is contrary to the truth. If you even "estimated" in your favor, then you have lied. What I find interesting is that on one hand you say embossing your app is lying and is bad, but then you go on to justify cases where embossing your app is not lying. I'm beginning to see less and less difference between what you are saying now from what I suggested before which is that everyone lies, the difference is on how much you lie; but just because someone has not been truthful in their application, it wouldn't bother me one bit if they can become good doctors.
I think your posts have proven that your primary goal is not to become a good doctor, but to get into medical school at all costs. If you wanted to become a good doctor, you would actually be interested in spending time learning from other doctors and helping people, instead of just making it up.
I think your posts have proven that you like to very easily assume that you understand what other people's views are without actually reading into what the other person is saying. I would much appreciated if you would read my posts where I say again where I say what my bottomline belief is and see if it at all correlates what you have constructed in your mind.
Also, you seem to have a very limited idea of what a "good doctor" is. A good doctor is one that wants to help people, but in no way can you say that someone doesn't want to help people if that person fudges numbers on an application. You seem to think what a person puts on the application can act as a door into someone's soul in knowing what kind of doctor that person will be. That sounds pretty ignorant.
And I would like to ask, what is YOUR definition of what a good doctor is? I think you need to recognize that there are MANY ways and definitions to a "good doctor." For example, I believe that one definition of a good doctor is someone who can stand for 12 hours in the surgery room reconstructing someone's face because he's got the skills that no one else does. I think a good doctor can be the guy who spent hundreds of hours in lab discovering that cure for cancer that he later sells for millions of dollars. I think a good doctor can be the guy who just lobbied a billion dollars to construct that new spinal reconstruction center because he knows how to sell his staff and his hospital. You think I give a care if any of these people only spent 100 hours in the community center serving soup to homeless people instead of the 200 hours he put on his application? Heck no.
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Wait, let me ask you, would YOU care in those cases?
Actually, don't answer, I can probably guess what your answer is based on what you said before. Although you can certainly post it if you want to. But your answer and mine, that's where our positions differ.
