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I do pity them, and how sad their world must be if they actually think that their country is a racist, hateful, evil country. That’s a terrible pseudo-reality to create for yourself to live in. Depressing if it was actually true.
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You literally need an ID for:
Alcohol, Cigs, Car, Mortgage, Getting on airplane, marriage, gun, renting hotel room, hunting/fishing license, buying cell phone, casinos, pick an rx, donate blood, go to R rate movie
but not to vote...
Alcohol, Cigs, Car, Mortgage, Getting on airplane, marriage, gun, renting hotel room, hunting/fishing license, buying cell phone, casinos, pick an rx, donate blood, go to R rate movie
but not to vote...
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Are you a descendant of slaves? Have you felt discrimination on an almost daily basis? Have you been cuffed to a tree and fire hydrant because you were merely trying to enter the home you own? Have you had people cross the street just because you are just a large man of color? Have you been pulled over multiple times just because of your appearance and had guns drawn on you (and I was never cited for any traffic violations in any of the incidents)? Have you had to counsel young men in your family how to be totally submissive in front of police, lest you take your life in their hands? I’m more educated than most, I’m double blue (look it up) but yet much of my daily life is a reminder of inequality and the overt presence of the country’s racist past—child plead with your disingenuous and effete musings that you are merely trying to learn , you’re called out...
So you claim.
I dont think anyone would argue with the logic of voter id laws if it weren't so blatantly obvious that these laws are literally always passed by Republicans in mostly southern states trying to disenfranchise black people.
Alabama
In 2018, critics have accused the state of intentionally disenfranchising non-white voters, aided by the Supreme Court which, in its Shelby County v. Holder 5-4 decision, allowed jurisdictions with a history of suppression of minority voters to avoid continuing to abide by federal preclearance requirements for changes in voter registration and casting of ballots.[73] Within 24 hours of the ruling, Alabama implemented a 2011 law requiring specific types of photo I.D. to be presented. The state closed DMV offices in eight of ten counties which had the highest percentage black population, but only three in the ten counties with the lowest black population. In 2016, Alabama's Secretary of State (SOS) John Merrill began a process to require proof of citizenship from voters, despite Merrill saying he did not know of a single case where a non-citizen had voted. Purging of voter rolls is another method of disenfranchisement and it was done so aggressively in Alabama. Even four-term Republican Representative Mo Brooks who, in March 2018, was rated the House's least bipartisan member by The Lugar Center and who was a candidate in 2017, for the seat relinquished by Jeff Sessions, found that he himself had been purged from the rolls. Merrill also refused to publicize the passage of legislation that enabled some 60,000 Alabaman former felons to vote.[74].[75] Alabama's new requirement regarding proof of citizenship, had been approved by federal Election Assistance Commission Director Brian Newby, an associate of voter disenfranchisement advocate, Kansas SOS and Republican Gubernatorial nominee, Kris Kobach.[76] Kobach was cited as a primary author of Alabama HB 56, passed in 2010, which was described as tougher than Arizona's law.[77] Much of the law was invalidated on appeal at various levels of appeals courts or voluntarily withdrawn or reworded.[78] [79][80]
North Carolina
In 2013, the state House passed a bill that requires voters to show a photo ID issued by North Carolina, a passport, or a military identification card to begin in 2016. Out-of-state drivers licenses were to be accepted only if the voter registered within 90 days of the election, and university photo identification was not acceptable.[61] In July 2016, a three-judge panel of the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals reversed a trial court decision in a number of consolidated actions and struck down the law's photo ID requirement, finding that the new voting provisions targeted African Americans "with almost surgical precision," and that the legislators had acted with clear "discriminatory intent" in enacting strict election rules, shaping the rules based on data they received about African-American registration and voting patterns.[62][63] On May 15, 2017, the law officially died when the US Supreme Court rejected efforts to review the Appeals Court ruling.[64]
Georgia
In Louisville, Georgia, in October 2018, Black senior citizens were told to get off a bus that was to have taken them to a polling place for early voting. The bus trip was supposed to have been part of the "South Rising" bus tour sponsored by the advocacy group Black Voters Matter. A clerk of the local Jefferson County Commission allegedly called the intended voters' senior center to claim that the bus tour constituted "'political activity,'" which is barred at events sponsored by the county. Latosha Brown, one of the founders of Black Voters Matter, described the trip's prevention as a clear-cut case of "'voter intimidation. This is voter suppression, Southern style.'" The NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund sent a letter to the county calling for an "'immediate investigation'" into the incident, which it condemned as "'an unacceptable act of voter intimidation'" that "'potentially violates several laws.'"[81]
Georgia's Secretary of State, Brian Kemp, the Republican gubernatorial nominee, was the official in charge of determining whether or not voters will be allowed to vote in the November 2018 election and has been accused of voter suppression. Despite being prevented by a court from implementing wholesale disenfranchisement, thanks to Kemp's "Exact Match" policy, the state legislature wrote a new law in 2017 that facilitates use of the strategy. Minority voters are statistically more likely to have names that contain hyphens, suffixes or other punctuation that can make it more difficult to match their name in databases, experts noted, and are more likely to have their voter applications suspended by Kemp's office. Barry C. Burden, a professor at the University of Wisconsin-Madison and director of its Elections Research Center said, "An unrealistic rule of this sort will falsely flag many legitimate registration forms. Moreover, the evidence indicates that minority residents are more likely to be flagged than are whites." Kemp has suspended the applications of 53,000 voters, a majority of whom are minorities. "Even if everyone who is on a pending list is eventually allowed to vote, it places more hurdles in the way of those voters on the list, who are disproportionately black and Hispanic," said Charles Stewart III, Professor of Political Science at Massachusetts Institute of Technology.[82]
Georgia officials kept hundreds of voting machines locked in warehouses on Election Day 2018, creating a shortage at the polls.[83] This led to hours-long lines, which act as a deterrent to voters who had to work or take care of children.
Texas
In July 2016, a federal appeals court found that Texas's voter ID law discriminated against black and Hispanic voters because only a few types of ID were allowed; for example, military IDs and concealed carry permits were allowed, but state employee photo IDs and university photo IDs were not.[67]
Well, I am not subject to these things; therefore, they don't happen.
Check out what we're done for in SC for voter ID. If we can pull off something fair I'm not sure why everyone can't.
We can meet in person if you desire...you obviously have no insight but moreover no inclination and appetite to know about the plight of people of color and that’s rather obvious. As it disrupts your world view and the preconceived notions that allow your ideology to have a place and order...
Trump
Also, the Mueller report said the exact opposite of what you claim. There was extensive contact at all levels of the Trump campaign with Russian intelligence and a concerted effort to get him elected. Mueller goes as far as saying that if he could exonerate Trump he would have. Moreover, it's telling that less than 6 months after Mueller, Trump again trades his position of power in the presidency for political gain.
Again, you only display this faux outrage to stoke both sides while collecting your filthy lucre. You have no desire to be educated about the facts other than GOP talking points and Fox News. Watching the GOP contort themselves over Trumps actions in the past few weeks shows their true colors. President Clinton was impeached over misleading statements under oath (not necessarily a BJ alone but that was his biggest lie under oath). Trump is willing to sell out a US ally for political dirt and the GOP needs an explicit "quid pro quo" before even contemplating that Trump may have crossed a line. A quid pro quo that is becoming more damning day by day and yet they still would argue over semantics than face the facts that the Executive branch is corrupt to the core.
Look at what happened to Hillary Clinton. She was scrutinized for years over what in Bengazi and instead of stonewalling, obstruction, and hemming/hawing, she testified under oath and underwent years of investigations that resulted in only discovering her illegal email server, something that multiple members of this current Executive Branch have also done. It's all faux outrage meant to obfuscate what's going on in order to foster a "both sides are the same" and in turn depress voter turnout.
The GOP, not Nazis but number one with Nazis.
Also, the Mueller report said the exact opposite of what you claim. There was extensive contact at all levels of the Trump campaign with Russian intelligence and a concerted effort to get him elected. Mueller goes as far as saying that if he could exonerate Trump he would have. Moreover, it's telling that less than 6 months after Mueller, Trump again trades his position of power in the presidency for political gain.
Again, you only display this faux outrage to stoke both sides while collecting your filthy lucre. You have no desire to be educated about the facts other than GOP talking points and Fox News. Watching the GOP contort themselves over Trumps actions in the past few weeks shows their true colors. President Clinton was impeached over misleading statements under oath (not necessarily a BJ alone but that was his biggest lie under oath). Trump is willing to sell out a US ally for political dirt and the GOP needs an explicit "quid pro quo" before even contemplating that Trump may have crossed a line. A quid pro quo that is becoming more damning day by day and yet they still would argue over semantics than face the facts that the Executive branch is corrupt to the core.
Look at what happened to Hillary Clinton. She was scrutinized for years over what in Bengazi and instead of stonewalling, obstruction, and hemming/hawing, she testified under oath and underwent years of investigations that resulted in only discovering her illegal email server, something that multiple members of this current Executive Branch have also done. It's all faux outrage meant to obfuscate what's going on in order to foster a "both sides are the same" and in turn depress voter turnout.
Because voter ID is a solution to a problem that doesn't exist. The number of illegally cast ballots that would have otherwise been stopped by a voter ID law is less than 100 across the entire country in the last election. As brought up previously, the biggest case of electoral fraud in the past 50 years occurred in NC and was orchestrated by a GOP operative by actually stealing, misrepresenting, and outright forging votes. And IIRC, NC had voter ID at the time of the election.
Yup, on a pure statistical level and definition, the amount of actual fraud committed is literally infinitesimal.
I was asking from a logistical standpoint. I don't really care from a "should we do this" stance one way or another, merely that it can be done in a fair way pretty easily.
Yet Trump still can't give us proof about the supposed millions of illegals that voted in the last presidential election.....
www.nbcnews.com
www.apnews.com
Trump again claims massive vote fraud. A massive search for evidence finds none.
"Not a conspiracy theory, folks," President Donald Trump said in West Virginia on Thursday. "Millions and millions of people."
www.nbcnews.com
Report: Trump commission did not find widespread voter fraud
PORTLAND, Maine (AP) — The now-disbanded voting integrity commission launched by the Trump administration uncovered no evidence to support claims of widespread voter fraud, according to an analysis of administration documents released Friday.
www.apnews.com
Being done in a fair way negates the reason why these laws are made in the first place. It's not about combating fraudulent voting.
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Too bad they clearly have fewer rights.
LGBT rights in the United States - Wikipedia
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Too bad they clearly have fewer rights.
LGBT rights in the United States - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
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Please post an original point, and not simply a link to a Wikipedia article.
I felt like the point was too obvious to go on about.
If I must explain it for you:
This was posted to counter the oft-repeated claim that LGBT persons have the same rights as other citizens in the US. It is just so clearly not the case. Just because same-sex marriage is legal, doesn't mean full citizenship for LGBTs.
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Exactly! I think the post you quoted was in response to something I said so that’s why I didn’t even respond.
How do you have a civil discussion with people living in an alternative reality?
It’s like saying that there are no poor people in this country. I’m not going to waste my time finding a scholarly article about the different economic categories of people in this country because it’s just so obvious that it’s a fact.
(And even when one does post more legit pieces of information it is either ignored or still not believed!)
That's clearly not universally true as, once again, my state is doing it in a fair way.
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There’s so much news these days, it’s hard to keep up!
Ms. Yovanovitch testified behind closed doors yesterday. She joined the US foreign service in the 1980s and served as a US ambassador under Obama AND Bush. I’m so glad she defied the White House who told her not to testify. From her opening statement:
“Ms. Yovanovitch delivered a scathing indictment of his administration’s conduct of foreign policy. She warned that private influence and personal gain have usurped diplomats’ judgment, threatening to undermine the nation’s interests and drive talented professionals out of public service."
Ms. Yovanovitch testified behind closed doors yesterday. She joined the US foreign service in the 1980s and served as a US ambassador under Obama AND Bush. I’m so glad she defied the White House who told her not to testify. From her opening statement:
“Ms. Yovanovitch delivered a scathing indictment of his administration’s conduct of foreign policy. She warned that private influence and personal gain have usurped diplomats’ judgment, threatening to undermine the nation’s interests and drive talented professionals out of public service."
Which part don't you believe? The double blue bit?
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So what’s the basis for claims that, say, PolitiFact is biased? Hey, The Weekly Standard itself has explained the criteria:
Notice the implicit assumption here – namely, that impartial fact-checking would find an equal number of false claims from each party. But what if – bear with me a minute – Republicans actually make more false claims than Democrats?
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In a surprising new national survey, members of each major American political party were asked what they imagined to be the beliefs held by members of the other. The survey asked Democrats: “How many Republicans believe that racism is still a problem in America today?” Democrats guessed 50%. It’s actually 79%. The survey asked Republicans how many Democrats believe “most police are bad people”. Republicans estimated half; it’s really 15%.
The survey, published by the thinktank More in Common as part of its Hidden Tribes of America project, was based on a sample of more than 2,000 people. One of the study’s findings: the wilder a person’s guess as to what the other party is thinking, the more likely they are to also personally disparage members of the opposite party as mean, selfish or bad. Not only do the two parties diverge on a great many issues, they also disagree on what they disagree on.
This much we might guess. But what’s startling is the further finding that higher education does not improve a person’s perceptions – and sometimes even hurts it. In their survey answers, highly educated Republicans were no more accurate in their ideas about Democratic opinion than poorly educated Republicans. For Democrats, the education effect was even worse: the more educated a Democrat is, according to the study, the less he or she understands the Republican worldview.
“This effect,” the report says, “is so strong that Democrats without a high school diploma are three times more accurate than those with a postgraduate degree.” And the more politically engaged a person is, the greater the distortion.
What could be going on? Bubble-ism, the report suggests. Even more than their Republican counterparts, highly educated Democrats tend to live in exclusively Democratic enclaves. The more they report “almost all my friends hold the same political views”, the worse their guesses on what Republicans think.
www.theguardian.com
The survey, published by the thinktank More in Common as part of its Hidden Tribes of America project, was based on a sample of more than 2,000 people. One of the study’s findings: the wilder a person’s guess as to what the other party is thinking, the more likely they are to also personally disparage members of the opposite party as mean, selfish or bad. Not only do the two parties diverge on a great many issues, they also disagree on what they disagree on.
This much we might guess. But what’s startling is the further finding that higher education does not improve a person’s perceptions – and sometimes even hurts it. In their survey answers, highly educated Republicans were no more accurate in their ideas about Democratic opinion than poorly educated Republicans. For Democrats, the education effect was even worse: the more educated a Democrat is, according to the study, the less he or she understands the Republican worldview.
“This effect,” the report says, “is so strong that Democrats without a high school diploma are three times more accurate than those with a postgraduate degree.” And the more politically engaged a person is, the greater the distortion.
What could be going on? Bubble-ism, the report suggests. Even more than their Republican counterparts, highly educated Democrats tend to live in exclusively Democratic enclaves. The more they report “almost all my friends hold the same political views”, the worse their guesses on what Republicans think.
Think Republicans are disconnected from reality? It's even worse among liberals | Arlie Hochschild
A new survey found Democrats live with less political diversity despite being more tolerant of it – with startling results
92% of Republicans think media intentionally reports fake news
Trust in the media is heavily influenced by partisanship
People older than 65 share the most fake news, a new study finds
And the finding holds true across party lines
www.theverge.com
Why Republican baby boomers are more likely to share #fakenews on Facebook
Social media doesn’t help people differentiate what is real from what is fake.
www.marketwatch.com
Fake news loving president no different than his fake news loving followers
Does the other party have any good ideas?
Most Republicans and Democrats believe that few – or no – good ideas come from the other party. Only 17% of Republicans say that the Democratic Party has “a lot” or “some” good ideas” and only 13% of Democrats say this about the Republican Party. In fact, nearly half in both parties say the other has almost no good ideas.
Most Republicans and Democrats believe that few – or no – good ideas come from the other party. Only 17% of Republicans say that the Democratic Party has “a lot” or “some” good ideas” and only 13% of Democrats say this about the Republican Party. In fact, nearly half in both parties say the other has almost no good ideas.
92% of Republicans think media intentionally reports fake news
Trust in the media is heavily influenced by partisanshipwww.axios.com
People older than 65 share the most fake news, a new study finds
And the finding holds true across party lines
Why Republican baby boomers are more likely to share #fakenews on Facebook
Social media doesn’t help people differentiate what is real from what is fake.
Fake news loving president no different than his fake news loving followers
My last few posts prove those who are hyper-partisan simply don't understand the other side's worldview. At least, I understand where Bernie and Warren are coming from. I fully grasp their "socialism" and the cost to the tax payer and this nation. You may think the cost is worth it but history has shown over and over again that socialism at this level of cost is a disaster/total failure in nations that adopt it.
Funny how many love to look at Venezuela or Cuba as examples of that, rather than Sweden or Norway. Or heck, even Canada.
I'd be fine with a little nudge in that direction. Instead of draining the swamp, wall St and corporations have been having a field day since Trump took office
92% of Republicans think media intentionally reports fake news
Trust in the media is heavily influenced by partisanship
People older than 65 share the most fake news, a new study finds
And the finding holds true across party lines
Why Republican baby boomers are more likely to share #fakenews on Facebook
Social media doesn’t help people differentiate what is real from what is fake.
Fake news loving president no different than his fake news loving followers
" One of the study’s findings: the wilder a person’s guess as to what the other party is thinking, the more likely they are to also personally disparage members of the opposite party as mean, selfish or bad. "
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I have looked into Sweden and Norway. Have you watched this video I posted on this thread? I can agree that some change is needed but the Warren/Sanders platform is a disaster. Why not do a deeper analysis of the cost of such programs and see there is no way to pay for ALL OF THEM.
Your post shows you really don't fully grasp anything about Bernie or Warren's worldview. You described what you think will be the result of their plans, not what they believe. The way you phrased your post is literally what the authors of that article you posted were talking about in as far as misunderstanding or misrepresenting the other side.
Unlike you, I fully understand the opposing argument. Trickle down economics vis a vis low taxes on all brackets, low capital gains, low corporate tax rate makes sense intuitively. The argument is that the tax cuts will pay for themselves through GDP growth. Deficits wont rise. Poor people will be lifted out of poverty without expanding social programs because economic growth will be robust. Wealth, education, and healthcare inequality will fix themselves.
But be honest and show me the evidence for the above claim in the real world, not just as a thought experiment.
Nearly half of millennials say they prefer socialism to capitalism, but what do they mean? “My policies most closely resemble what we see in the U.K., in Norway, in Finland, in Sweden,” Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez told “60 Minutes.” Yet Sweden’s experiment with socialist policies was disastrous, and its economic success in recent decades is a result of market-based reforms.
Until the mid-20th century, Sweden pursued highly competitive market-based policies. By 1970 Sweden achieved the world’s fourth-highest per capita income. Then increasingly radical Social Democratic governments raised taxes, spending and regulation much more than any other Western European country. Economic performance sputtered. By the early 1990s, Sweden’s per capita income ranking had dropped to 14th. Economic growth from 1970 to the early 1990s was roughly 1 percentage point lower than in Europe and 2 points lower than in the U.S.
Before its socialist experiment, Sweden had a smaller government sector than the U.S. By the early 1990s, government spending and transfer payments ballooned to 70% of gross domestic product, and debt had increased to 80% of GDP. Between 1966 and 1974, Sweden lost some 400,000 private jobs—proportionate to 16.7 million in today’s U.S.
In 1991 a market-oriented government came to power and undertook far-reaching reforms. Policy makers have privatized parts of the health-care system, introduced for-profit schools along with school vouchers, and reduced welfare benefits. Since 1997, government ministries that propose new spending plans have been required to find offsetting cuts in their budgets. As a result, public debt has declined from 80% of GDP in the early 1990s to 41%.
To increase incentives to work, Sweden reduced unemployment benefits and introduced an earned-income tax credit in 2007. The electricity and transportation industries were deregulated in the 1990s, and even the Swedish postal system was opened up to competition in 1993. The corporate tax rate was cut from its 2009 level of 28% to 22% today, and is scheduled to decline to 20.4% in 2021.
This policy mix has earned Sweden a Heritage Foundation ranking as the 15th freest economy in the world. The U.S. is 18th. And it’s paid off. Since 1995, Swedish economic growth has exceeded that of its European Union peers by about 1 point a year. Sweden is now richer than all of the major EU countries and is within 15% of U.S. per capita GDP. While Sweden still has a larger government than the U.S., its tax code is flatter. The progressivity of the U.S. tax code distorts incentives. These distortions would become even larger under the tax-increase proposals of democratic socialists like Ms. Ocasio-Cortez.
There is an example for the U.S. here, but the lesson isn’t what Ms. Ocasio-Cortez thinks. Command-and-control economic policies undermined Sweden’s prosperity, and they would do the same to America’s.
www.wsj.com
Until the mid-20th century, Sweden pursued highly competitive market-based policies. By 1970 Sweden achieved the world’s fourth-highest per capita income. Then increasingly radical Social Democratic governments raised taxes, spending and regulation much more than any other Western European country. Economic performance sputtered. By the early 1990s, Sweden’s per capita income ranking had dropped to 14th. Economic growth from 1970 to the early 1990s was roughly 1 percentage point lower than in Europe and 2 points lower than in the U.S.
Before its socialist experiment, Sweden had a smaller government sector than the U.S. By the early 1990s, government spending and transfer payments ballooned to 70% of gross domestic product, and debt had increased to 80% of GDP. Between 1966 and 1974, Sweden lost some 400,000 private jobs—proportionate to 16.7 million in today’s U.S.
In 1991 a market-oriented government came to power and undertook far-reaching reforms. Policy makers have privatized parts of the health-care system, introduced for-profit schools along with school vouchers, and reduced welfare benefits. Since 1997, government ministries that propose new spending plans have been required to find offsetting cuts in their budgets. As a result, public debt has declined from 80% of GDP in the early 1990s to 41%.
To increase incentives to work, Sweden reduced unemployment benefits and introduced an earned-income tax credit in 2007. The electricity and transportation industries were deregulated in the 1990s, and even the Swedish postal system was opened up to competition in 1993. The corporate tax rate was cut from its 2009 level of 28% to 22% today, and is scheduled to decline to 20.4% in 2021.
This policy mix has earned Sweden a Heritage Foundation ranking as the 15th freest economy in the world. The U.S. is 18th. And it’s paid off. Since 1995, Swedish economic growth has exceeded that of its European Union peers by about 1 point a year. Sweden is now richer than all of the major EU countries and is within 15% of U.S. per capita GDP. While Sweden still has a larger government than the U.S., its tax code is flatter. The progressivity of the U.S. tax code distorts incentives. These distortions would become even larger under the tax-increase proposals of democratic socialists like Ms. Ocasio-Cortez.
There is an example for the U.S. here, but the lesson isn’t what Ms. Ocasio-Cortez thinks. Command-and-control economic policies undermined Sweden’s prosperity, and they would do the same to America’s.
Opinion | How Sweden Overcame Socialism
It’s a model for the U.S., but the lesson isn’t what Rep. Alexandria Ocasio Cortez thinks it is.
www.wsj.com
1. I have never posted that low taxes like the Trump Tax Cut is the answer to our problems. In fact, I have posted the exact opposite.
2. Social Programs- I have posted we need to shore-up our existing commitments to current programs. Until that is done we should not be expanding new social programs.
3. We can learn from other countries policies both good and bad. We can see what works and what has failed across Europe.
The USA does not have an unlimited supply of wealth contrary to some people's view of economics. We can only do so much and must prioritize the spending. That is what we should be debating: how we close the deficit and use govt. funds for the people of the USA.
I agree with the general idea of 1, 2, and 3. If only those things were part of the GOP platform they'd have a lot more converts from the center and center-left
The problem is that the gop has been co opted by a corporate puppet. Until the reset button has been hit on the gop, the direction has to go away from them.
Trump has accelerated monstrous deficits and wealth inequality with his policies. Bottom line.
Warren with a moderate Congress will do enough to swing the pendulum back
Some people here claim that Trump will be the best for national security and border security. Per the news last night, Kevin McAleenan resigned as DHS Secretary.
McAleenan is the 4th United States Secretary of Homeland Security to resign in 3 years.. For reference, both Obama and GWB had 2 confirmed secretaries in 8 years along with 1 acting director each who served as interim for a very short time.
Even if you are a Trump believer, how to do you reconcile yourself with his sheer managerial incompetence given that pretty much every cabinet department in his administration has personnel issues like this? His longest serving secretary is Rick Perry, a guy who got a D in a college class called 'Meats' and who was so jacked up on pills during a debate he couldnt remember all three government departments he wanted to cut.
Would any of you even dream of joining a practice where the turnover of the docs or CRNAs was as bad as the White House? It's literally the most desirable place in the world for politicos to work, but yet potus can barely keep the lights on....
McAleenan is the 4th United States Secretary of Homeland Security to resign in 3 years.. For reference, both Obama and GWB had 2 confirmed secretaries in 8 years along with 1 acting director each who served as interim for a very short time.
Even if you are a Trump believer, how to do you reconcile yourself with his sheer managerial incompetence given that pretty much every cabinet department in his administration has personnel issues like this? His longest serving secretary is Rick Perry, a guy who got a D in a college class called 'Meats' and who was so jacked up on pills during a debate he couldnt remember all three government departments he wanted to cut.
Would any of you even dream of joining a practice where the turnover of the docs or CRNAs was as bad as the White House? It's literally the most desirable place in the world for politicos to work, but yet potus can barely keep the lights on....
I think history has shown we do best with a GOP Congress and a Democrat President.
The status quo under Trump is monstrous trillion dollar annual deficits and gaslighting regarding healthcare reform. Personally I think the ACA would have worked with tweaking, which would have prevented the eventual push for M4A which would be far more disastrous than the ACA when even those on the right think about it
GOP had 7 years of parroting "repeal and replace" and the first two years of Trump's term, all they did was choke. Honestly they deserve UHC/m4a considering that.
Not sure how the deficits get any worse under a more liberal president
Throughout this thread most of us haven’t made any assumptions. We’ve gone by what has been said, which has included things like racism in the US doesn’t exist, that LGBTQ persons have the same protections as everyone else and that the current administration hasn’t made any policies that negatively affect traditionally marginalized groups. Then, when facts are presented they’re ignored or not believed. So no, I’m not going to understand the other sides worldview that simply does not exist based on the words they say.
Indeed, just breathing incompetence. Consider this, for positions connected directly to the White House, by means of appointment, the current attrition rate after three years is 87 percent, yes almost 90 percent of the people have already left. This is not an Octopus Car Wash in Topeka, supposedly the seat of democracy and center and primacy of the free world......telling.
I have no idea what "double blue" means, and while I'm not directly challenging the veracity of any of the specifics in his post, we've all seen enough creativity from people altering their life details ever so slightly to advance their political agendas (see the "composite" stories in Obama's memoir, Warren's claims to be American Indian and having been fired for being pregnant, etc.). In any event, the details of a specific individual's experiences should not shift views on societal issues. If we're discussing society-level issues and solutions, society-level data are relevant.
That’s basically ridiculous—individuals are a part of society. Say, you dilute or ignore the individual experience of a Jew in NYC or an third generation Irish in south Boston -please, I need not embellish or exaggerate my experience and if you actually had any close friends of color you would know this is the norm and not atypical...
Another post rife with presumptuousness.
Another post rife with an effete and putative world view that is based on some tiny cul de sac of life ...
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Are those examples of privilege and hardship?
Society-level data, you say? That's a new one from a conservative considering most of you all perseverate on federalism and the individual experience. If Warren Buffet suggests that wealthy people, esp those who make fortunes through capital gains, need to pay more taxes, the response is always something *****ic like "well, he's free to write an extra personal check to the IRS if he feels that way" rather than address the issue with a change to the federal tax code.
There is plenty of historical and current data that demonstrates the economic and social marginalization of people of color, LGBTQ, women, etc. But something tells me you would dispute it all plus any personal anecdotes because it doesn't fit your preconceived notion of America.
Individuals make up society.
Do you not believe that slavery happened? Do you not believe that 1 in 4 women are raped by men? Do you not believe that same sex marriage was illegal? All of that society level data shapes the country to this day. So I’m not understanding your point because once again when facts are presented they’re not believed or ignored by statements such as racism doesn’t exist or lgbtq persons have the same rights as everyone else.
For example, when trump said in regards to Mexicans "they’re bringing their murderers and rapists," that completely ignores society level data that immigrants, including Mexicans commit crimes at lower levels than citizens.
For example, when trump bans transgender people serving in the military, that completely ignores society level data that indicates transgender people don’t negatively affect troop readiness.
Here is a quote from black liberal Harvard sociology professor Orlando Patterson, who 28 years ago wrote: "The sociological truths are that America, while still flawed in its race relations ... is now the least racist white-majority society in the world; has a better record of legal protection of minorities than any other society, white or black; offers more opportunities to a greater number of black persons than any other society, including all those of Africa."
This simple fact that you believe the “fact” that 1 in 4 women are raped in America makes it really hard to discuss “facts.”
Seriously, how do you go throughout the day without popping Xanax like tic tacs? You believe you live in a country where everyone is racist, everyone is oppressed, and 25% of women are raped?! Geez, if I believed what you do I’d be so stressed and depressed I don’t think I could go on.
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