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Oh my lord hahahaha. Well that was ridiculous

 

[PippyPony]

And my vote to lynch kara is fully out of annoyance with the same things that led most old players to quit WW entirely. Bad play like pushing for info on day 1, which has cost us many useful roles but has never to my recollection netted us a wolf. RNG is the best way to play day 1 per both statistics and past proof, even if it is boring. When the wolves have a massive early information advantage, pushing for information from fellow villagers that have none is just dumb and potentially risking roles that could easily be saved without being outed in the main thread, which is why it isn't a thing they do on most other mafia forums.

If you want a game to be interesting, do this noob garbage. If you want to win, RNG.

bmud si siht

I'm not liking the votes for dubz or MJ right now. I think dubz sounds normal and the last time we lynched MJ when he was a wolf he EXPLODED in a rage! So it sounds like he might actually be vanilla.

hctekS

What is RNG? Also, @Melchizedek used the term "PR", what is that?



My opinion on D1 impressions not being useful is based on my irl experience playing mafia. Maybe it's different in WW since it's online and we have more time to talk, idk. The nooby question is there because, well, I'm a noob and don't know all the WW terminology. Would it seem less fishy if I knew everything and was playing like an expert?

hcteks boon evian eb llits dluow siht epoN

Pippy seems...off? I've only played a couple games with her but she seems less 'guns blazing' than normal. I'm not sure how to read it yet, but just something I made note of. We were both wolf manators in the last noob game so she got to see a little of my gameplay advice then and I saw hers. Her play style (almost reckless) is like exactly opposite from mine and I view her as a loose cannon/risky no matter what side she's on since I can't predict what she'll do next, haha.

kmM

nuf yas I ,sselkcer yas uoy

You know what I hate more than a blindside? Getting blindsided by a last minute counterwagon to lynch a villager

Contingency lynch Mel

I'm also going after AM, Jayna and Pawsy.

Also going after youngkal

I'm sorry for the harsh words @WildZoo. I just really hate getting blindsided and the rage got to me 🙁

amard hcuS

Well that sucks...

This feels super manipulative!

!hcteks repus sleef sihT

Catching up after my rally-o class. Man that was a fast waffle. Leaving these quotes here for myself with my fast impression from a speed read for me to look at more later.


Do not like the feels from this post.


Also do not like.


Also not a fan here.


This I do like as a comment on gameplay. But also could be wolfy throwing off the scent.

More reading to do.

egalliv sleef

Tons of posting to me is just as sketchy as you all view ‘quiet people’. It’s easier for some wolves to just drown the thread in posts in hopes that the conversation changes away from whatever is being discussed. Her first vote was froyo at 10:30 on Wednesday. OK, sure, good initial choice but he’s now the 14th person with a vote. D1 so fine. She made a comment about wolves should never feel bad for doing what they gotta do with a winky face. Made me go ‘hmm’, maybe there’s more truth there than she intended. Gets up to three votes but is in three way tie, unlynches froyo at 5:43. Commentary, commentary, ‘why you voting for me’ brings up resurrections, defends mj, mentions the spread of votes. Despite being in/near the lead, she waits until 9:38 pm to revote. When she does, she ‘doesn’t feel any of the front runners’ and settles on kal, who has been brought up in passing by several people but not really voted for. This is the main thing that solidified my (clearly incorrect) decision to vote for her…waited until the end to cast a vote for a ‘new’ choice but one that had been brought up as sketchy several times. Seemed like a wolf tossing out a rando villager hoping the other villagers would latch on. With all that, clearly my interpretation was wrong, but that was my thought process.

Also, Lawper posted at 8:44 asking if MJ and WZ were the only ones in the lead. He acted like it was a shock come back at lynch close but clearly things were shaking up at 8:44 pm despite his astonished reactions later on.

Also

Umm, I posted my thoughts/reasons at 10:50 after lynch close? So I didn't disappear. I've also been working on more posts for 30 minutes. I'm a resident. It means I work all day, might be able to read posts at lunch if I get one. I get home, catch up, post, then I have three chapters of reading to do a night. Yes, yes, wolves can be busy blah blah blah, but I'm never a verbose player. I'm one of those 'quiet ones' you all love to crucify because I don't do the giant multiquotes or post 800,000,000 times a day. I've already provided much more strategy than I usually do. If you want to lynch me for making a bad decision regarding lynching a vanillager, then so be it. It's only a matter of time before you lynch me for being quiet. Now, I have to go work...thought I'd try to defend a little before you all lynch another villager just for making a mistake.

sdrow ynaM

It was spoilered to avoid a wall of text. Merely a stylistic choice not a strategic one.

gniyonna os sreliops gmO

Pips was quieter than usual yesterday, which was very OOC. Slight wolfy leaning there.
Moose was posting a lot of fluff before and now is more reserved as of late. Getting slight wolf feels there as well.
Sporty's focus on other games sketched me out slightly, but I'm not sure what to make of it.
Lawpy has been all over the place, so it's hard to interpret, but I'm keeping my vote rn there bc of the self-lynch.
Slight village leans on you, Mel, and SAR.


AM I have a slight village read on. She's done that waffling before as village. Paws wasn't pinging anything for me, but that's a moot point now. Also not sure Mel would instigate a vote like that if he wasn't sure about something.

eergA

 

[PippyPony]

flow rotcirtser tsop ,taht taE

 

[PippyPony]

...mmH

anyaJ hcnylnU
ggatS hcnyL

setov ynam oot tub driew osla pwaL

ti htrow toN

 

[PippyPony]

@JaynaAli

hguoht ,suovren uoy ekam yllareneg I esuaceb em rof setov sselesab ekil t'noD

 

[PippyPony]

@Frozenshades ,kcab emoC

 

[Mad Jack]

Also, @Mad Jack, you aren't allowed to revenge lynch for the rest of this game. I still expect some actual strategy.

I do what I want

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

I'm here!! Okay, after yesterday's lynch and last night's kill, I really don't like how Lawpy reacted and then voted for herself as that seems really sketch and she also went on the tirade saying how basically the wolves gave themselves up by waffling. I would agree if this was at the end of the game, but not in the beginning. I do believe a wolf may have been one of the wafflers but not all of them! But, as much as I dislike that from Lawpy it sounds pretty village to me to say something that reductionist.

Jboo, I've posted content posts! If you look back I broke down (in paragraph form, sorry) some people that I was feeling villagy about and others I was feeling sketch about.

Pippy, you said I was sketch for calling Lawpy manipulative, but Genny did too and you didn't call her out...hmmm.

To be honest, I was to hear from Houston! Where is she (sorry if you're a he)? She came on for 1 or 2 posts at the most and then disappeared and never voted and then hasn't shown up today yet. I know people are busy but that seems a bit sketch.

I think Mel sounds manipulative, especially by putting the sketchdar on AM (saying that Paws must have role revealed to her) and then voting for Jayna.

I feel like what's happening is that the group is divided, with one side saying that Mel pushed the Dubz vote and the other saying Lawpy got too upset over the Dubz lynch. Which makes me think they're both village or maybe one of them is potentially chaos.

I don't like Katashark's vote (I kinda get the justification but I want to hear more from her today).

Overall, the people I want to hear from more (with ACTUAL content posts) are: Coffee?, Snowy, MJ, FinnSki, Sporty, Dolphin, Allie, Stagg, Katashark, Houston (do you have a problem?), DPMD, and FS.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I do what I want

I can still policy lynch you midgame.

 

[SkiOtter]

Houston (do you have a problem?)

****
Stealing my jokes I see
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[Mad Jack]

I can still policy lynch you midgame.

You're not my supervisor

 

[Animal Midwife]

You're not my supervisor

How dare

 

[Animal Midwife]

Unofficial D2 lynch tally
Mel(2)- MJ, Sporty
Jayna (1)- Mel
Lawper (6)- YK, AM, KB, SAR, Lawper, Jboo
Staggs (1) - Pippy
10/23
Lynch close ~8 hours

 

[PippyPony]

Pippy, you said I was sketch for calling Lawpy manipulative, but Genny did too and you didn't call her out...hmmm.

hcteks uoy dellac I yhw toN

gniht enot a si ti tub yadot rof detacilpmoc oot

I think Mel sounds manipulative, especially by putting the sketchdar on AM (saying that Paws must have role revealed to her) and then voting for Jayna.

si eh esuaceb s'tahT

Overall, the people I want to hear from more (with ACTUAL content posts) are: Coffee?, Snowy, MJ, FinnSki, Sporty, Dolphin, Allie, Stagg, Katashark, Houston (do you have a problem?), DPMD, and FS.

rovaedne siht htiw uoy ot kcul dooG

 

[dpmd]

Mel is manipulative whether wolf or village. Not sure if that is long term strategy or just how he is.

 

[PippyPony]

Mel is manipulative whether wolf or village. Not sure if that is long term strategy or just how he is.

^.

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

hcteks uoy dellac I yhw toN

gniht enot a si ti tub yadot rof detacilpmoc oot


si eh esuaceb s'tahT


rovaedne siht htiw uoy ot kcul dooG

I appreciate you responding with this restriction 🙂

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

As the victim of many a last-minute wafflefest, I will say that historically at least 1 wolf hops in on it. I'm typically v bitter about getting killed off that way and then the mods make me feel better by letting me know a wolf was in on it.

That being said, Jayna has been the most suspect to me. I don't like how she dropped in to waffle and then disappeared until morning.

Contingency lynch Jayna

You're right, I skipped over that. My b

Unlynch Jayna

You are quick to give Jayna a pass for this.

Wth Lawpy??? You should know better!

Lynch Lawpy

If you feel historically one wolf was on dubz' lynch, why not look at the other wafflers first?

Pips was quieter than usual yesterday, which was very OOC. Slight wolfy leaning there.
Moose was posting a lot of fluff before and now is more reserved as of late. Getting slight wolf feels there as well.
Sporty's focus on other games sketched me out slightly, but I'm not sure what to make of it.
Lawpy has been all over the place, so it's hard to interpret, but I'm keeping my vote rn there bc of the self-lynch.
Slight village leans on you, Mel, and SAR.


AM I have a slight village read on. She's done that waffling before as village. Paws wasn't pinging anything for me, but that's a moot point now. Also not sure Mel would instigate a vote like that if he wasn't sure about something.

I know Paws is dead, but you already established that you feel based on past history 1 wolf was on this lynch. Now you're giving both AM and Jayna a pass - totally going back on your statement then? If AM does this kind of waffle as village, do you think she is NOT likely to do it as wolf?

How do you feel about that before the wafflefest, she was questioning several players, but focusing on MJ, who frankly was more active yesterday than in other games D1???

Also, this is the second time you've mentioned Lawper without really hard evidence, other than today following lead based on self-lynch. Do you HAVE another reason to believe he is wolf? If he unlynched himself would you think he is less sketch?

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

Mel is manipulative whether wolf or village. Not sure if that is long term strategy or just how he is.

I'll add that as Mel has indicated he has been PMing with me, I haven't felt manipulated at all.

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

@dolphin106258 How do you feel about being a wolf your first game?

 

[Stagg737]

Not what I said. I stayed on you for voicing a strong opinion about the game and then following up a few posts later with a noob question. It felt coached to me.

So because I stated my opinion of how the other 50+ mafia games I've played irl went in terms of D1 being completely useless in terms of an actual legit analysis (which I have explained multiple times) but also asked noob questions it sounds coached? Just trying to follow your logic which makes no sense to me right now. Maybe it's bc I'm noob, but you're coming off as sketch to me right now...

I disagree. A wolf will try their hardest to participate so they aren't completely silent. So if they are trying to fly under the radar, they will be minimally posting. Going silent draws far more attention than it's worth

My reasons for jboo were in my question to jboo. Need to catch up and see if she responded

I can see that, but if you're village and only posting once every other day then you're not really contributing much. So not a huge loss early on either way, as I think early chatter is much more important later when you can look back for inconsistencies and patterns. If you're almost silent early on, it becomes way harder to gauge in the late game. Maybe I'm comparing too much between irl mafia and WW, but the quiet village usually hurts the late game more than they helped irl.

em rof naht lla uoy rof gniyonna erom hE

Very true, and if someone is actually controlling what the restriction is please pick something slightly less torturing to the rest of the players...

It did, maybe I should have said that it sucks to lose an experienced player and I didn't think Dubz was a wolf? Plus the entire last minute waffle and the immediate comments were all shady af and likely threw a bunch of villagers on my radar that weren't before.

...mmH

anyaJ hcnylnU
ggatS hcnyL

setov ynam oot tub driew osla pwaL

ti htrow toN

Why? You've only made 1 actual comment about me seeming sketch which was an emoji. So I'd like to hear an actual explanation, even if it is short, as to why you'd suddenly drop a vote on me, seemingly without reason. I wasn't really getting wolf vibes from you, and I'm trying not to now even though some other players have said you're not following your usual pattern. I'd like an actual reason to not suspect you though other than my gut doesn't think so.

I'm here!! Okay, after yesterday's lynch and last night's kill, I really don't like how Lawpy reacted and then voted for herself as that seems really sketch and she also went on the tirade saying how basically the wolves gave themselves up by waffling. I would agree if this was at the end of the game, but not in the beginning. I do believe a wolf may have been one of the wafflers but not all of them! But, as much as I dislike that from Lawpy it sounds pretty village to me to say something that reductionist.

Jboo, I've posted content posts! If you look back I broke down (in paragraph form, sorry) some people that I was feeling villagy about and others I was feeling sketch about.

Pippy, you said I was sketch for calling Lawpy manipulative, but Genny did too and you didn't call her out...hmmm.

To be honest, I was to hear from Houston! Where is she (sorry if you're a he)? She came on for 1 or 2 posts at the most and then disappeared and never voted and then hasn't shown up today yet. I know people are busy but that seems a bit sketch.

I think Mel sounds manipulative, especially by putting the sketchdar on AM (saying that Paws must have role revealed to her) and then voting for Jayna.

I feel like what's happening is that the group is divided, with one side saying that Mel pushed the Dubz vote and the other saying Lawpy got too upset over the Dubz lynch. Which makes me think they're both village or maybe one of them is potentially chaos.

I don't like Katashark's vote (I kinda get the justification but I want to hear more from her today).

Overall, the people I want to hear from more (with ACTUAL content posts) are: Coffee?, Snowy, MJ, FinnSki, Sporty, Dolphin, Allie, Stagg, Katashark, Houston (do you have a problem?), DPMD, and FS.

I think this isn't too far off from where I'm at right now. I completely agree that I think there was a wolf involved in the last minute waffle in one way or another, which put Mel, Jayna, Paws, AM, and YK on my radar. I think most of them are probably village, but I don't like how it went down enough that I think there's a wolf there somewhere. I also don't like Lawper's comments afterwards which seemed way too general and possibly attempting to target noobs. Maybe he was just trying to make things extremely obvious though. Either way I'm not a fan of the bandwagon that jumped on him right away or anything surrounding that whole situation. I don't read Lawper as wolf, but idk what he was thinking with any of those posts as they were just asking for backlash.

Some other points to your comments though:

I wasn't reading wolf from Pippy initially, but looking back I can see where some people are getting those feels. I know she's got the post restriction, but I'd like some explanations from her and more than just 5 word responses (though I sympathize with the restriction, I'd like actual answers).

Idk if Houstonn just doesn't realize they need to be around more or if they're purposefully sitting back, but there are quite a few of those players that I'd like to hear more from (most of whom you already listed).

Mel has had decent responses to questions, but still coming across as sketch to me even before the D1 lynch.

I've PM'd a couple times with katashark. Nothing really substantive, just that he (she?) agreed that D1 lynch seems like a crapshoot and that kata doesn't put much weight on it either. Other than that, there hasn't been gameplay discussion yet, so I don't have a real read on them. I asked what he thought about the vote last night at ~9:40pm CST, but he hasn't responded. So still waiting on that I also PM'd AllieH recently just to see if she was there, but haven't heard anything back yet. Idk if she said she'd be absent or if she just is, but I'd also like to hear from her.

 

[Lawpy]

I'm back! Sorry SDN login issues arose suddenly and I got locked out of the forums

I just want to point out something. I'm basically willing to accept my lynch and I recognize that I'm basically a dead man walking. This isn't much of a problem for me because I'm just a derpy vanillager whose mislynch wouldn't significantly hurt village. I don't have any roles or actions that I can use at night to help identify possible suspects, so really my power is just through my vote and words, and hopefully being able to persuade village to lynch wolves as early as possible. That's why I'm freely willing to lynch myself as long as we're able to focus on other suspects and discuss today.

Now, it's important that players realize that I don't have this flexibility as wolf and that can be justified by my past game record on here. Wolves have an information advantage but a numbers disadvantage. Losing one wolf hurts the wolves far more than losing one villager (especially a derpy vanillager like myself) hurts the village. Being dramatic and drawing major attention to oneself by saying derpy things as wolves isn't a good strategy. That's why in the one game where I did play as a wolf, I was extremely cautious and careful on what I say and was generally quiet and inactive (especially since I ended up with an unfortunate situation of losing my wolfmates early in the game). In contrast, the games where I did play as a villager, I ended up being more active and talkative, and was more likely to say dumb things that ended up in me getting pounded with votes. It's mainly late in the game or endgame when things get really bad and losing a villager would seriously hurt village that I pick up the speed and do what I can to help village win.

That said, I may be derpy early in the game and am sadly useless at night, but I'm going to help village through some analysis posts from here on forward even as a dead man walking. It's not really a defense since I'm accepting my lynch but I don't want to be completely useless at day.

 

[PippyPony]

Why? You've only made 1 actual comment about me seeming sketch which was an emoji. So I'd like to hear an actual explanation, even if it is short, as to why you'd suddenly drop a vote on me, seemingly without reason. I wasn't really getting wolf vibes from you, and I'm trying not to now even though some other players have said you're not following your usual pattern. I'd like an actual reason to not suspect you though other than my gut doesn't think so.

I wasn't reading wolf from Pippy initially, but looking back I can see where some people are getting those feels. I know she's got the post restriction, but I'd like some explanations from her and more than just 5 word responses (though I sympathize with the restriction, I'd like actual answers)

...

.haN

 

[Lawpy]

I'm here!! Okay, after yesterday's lynch and last night's kill, I really don't like how Lawpy reacted and then voted for herself as that seems really sketch and she also went on the tirade saying how basically the wolves gave themselves up by waffling. I would agree if this was at the end of the game, but not in the beginning. I do believe a wolf may have been one of the wafflers but not all of them! But, as much as I dislike that from Lawpy it sounds pretty village to me to say something that reductionist.

I'm a guy 😉

I'll get back to this post since it's related to other posts/cases on me.

 

[Lawpy]

Also reading @PippyPony backwards posts is going to be a nightmare

 

[dpmd]

I'll add that as Mel has indicated he has been PMing with me, I haven't felt manipulated at all.

That just means he is good at it

 

[Animal Midwife]

@Lawper I know you're newer, but please don't defend with your ability unless nothing else has worked. It rarely changes minds on it's own.

 

[Lawpy]

It's irritating but I'm glad the wolves exposed themselves in that last minute counterlynch.

Just want to address this above post since it seems to be a point of contention, which ended up in me getting a lot of backlash, heat, criticism and votes. I'm not saying that the counterwagoners are all wolves, since that strategy is extremely unwise and unnecessarily risky and attention grabbing. What I'm asserting is the opposite: they're not all village. That counterwagon on WZ was a terrible move and I'm thinking it was inspired by a wolf or two to sway the villagers to their favor, especially since prior to the counterwagon, YK was leading WZ by only one vote.

The WZ counterwagon is shady and I strongly doubt they're all village. That's the important point I wanted to make, hence why I further clarified and elaborated in the following posts.

Most probably what happened is some villagers tragically got deceived by the wolves participation in last minute counterlynch. That WZ lynch was terrible but i refuse to believe the counterwagoners were all village.

Wolves are likely aware WZ is a strong player and want to seize the opportunity to get rid of her. I'm just upset that some villagers thought it's a good idea to last minute switch onto WZ without reason

I listed 5 suspects that I intend to go after. I highly doubt all are wolves but I also strongly doubt all are village. Mel is my main suspect hence my vote on him. But I'm looking into all because I hate how that last minute counterwagon happened so suddenly without reason.

If you are village, you might have gotten deceived in your PM interactions with AM or Mel. Wolves can charm villagers into making bad decisions.

 

[Lawpy]

@Lawper I know you're newer, but please don't defend with your ability unless nothing else has worked. It rarely changes minds on it's own.

I know, the point was to show it comes at little cost for village to lynch me, which is why I freely self-voted.

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

I'm a guy 😉

I'll get back to this post since it's related to other posts/cases on me.

Sorry Lawpy!

 

[Stagg737]

So here's my general list of feels (some of them have reasons too, happy to go into it if people ask) so far:

Looking at as wolfy: Mel, Jboo, Jayna, AM

Feeling sketch: Pippy

Neutral (have feels both ways): Snowshoe (more towards village), YK (more towards sketch), Finnick/Ski, Sporty

Leaning village: Kara, Coffee, Lawper, SAR, Genny, Kata

Village: Morty, MJ,

Idk: Allie, Houston, Dolphin, dpmd, FS

For what it's worth, I would have put Dubz and Paws in the "neutral/leaning village" categories. I felt like Dubz was a bit hard to read, but I was getting more village feels than wolf. After the D1 lynch Paws was definitely someone I was more skeptical of, but of the people that I wanted to look into after that she was the one I least suspected of being a wolf (her gameplay seemed pretty identical to last game).

The other question I keep coming back to is "Why NK Paws?" It would have been silly of her to reveal an ability this early, but I felt like she would have also been a potential target after how that vote went down, so why else would she have been a NK? I have a lot of thoughts on that, but they're kind of all over the place right now and just end up being wifom, so for now that question's just going to sit in the back of my mind while I mull it over more.

Anyway, I've got to run some errands so I'll likely be back around 5-6 CST and will catch up more then.

 

[youngkal]

I'll add that as Mel has indicated he has been PMing with me, I haven't felt manipulated at all.

Oh it will happen lol

 

[Stagg737]

...

.haN

You realize that does nothing to change my mind...

 

[dolphin106258]

@dolphin106258 How do you feel about being a wolf your first game?

Are you only saying this due to my lack of posts?

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

Are you only saying this due to my lack of posts?

No. Welcome back by the way 😉

 

[Animal Midwife]

So here's my general list of feels (some of them have reasons too, happy to go into it if people ask) so far:

Looking at as wolfy: Mel, Jboo, Jayna, AM

Feeling sketch: Pippy

Neutral (have feels both ways): Snowshoe (more towards village), YK (more towards sketch), Finnick/Ski, Sporty

Leaning village: Kara, Coffee, Lawper, SAR, Genny, Kata

Village: Morty, MJ,

Idk: Allie, Houston, Dolphin, dpmd, FS

For what it's worth, I would have put Dubz and Paws in the "neutral/leaning village" categories. I felt like Dubz was a bit hard to read, but I was getting more village feels than wolf. After the D1 lynch Paws was definitely someone I was more skeptical of, but of the people that I wanted to look into after that she was the one I least suspected of being a wolf (her gameplay seemed pretty identical to last game).

The other question I keep coming back to is "Why NK Paws?" It would have been silly of her to reveal an ability this early, but I felt like she would have also been a potential target after how that vote went down, so why else would she have been a NK? I have a lot of thoughts on that, but they're kind of all over the place right now and just end up being wifom, so for now that question's just going to sit in the back of my mind while I mull it over more.

Anyway, I've got to run some errands so I'll likely be back around 5-6 CST and will catch up more then.

Whya re you village reading MJ? Why is YK not wolfy?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Are you only saying this due to my lack of posts?

Do you have any thoughts on the current situation?

 

[dolphin106258]

Do you have any thoughts on the current situation?

Well I just got through all the posts that I missed, hopefully getting all of the backwards post read correctly. 😵 But I don’t think Lawpy is a wolf, just seems mad at the situation of being lynched and gave up. I did think all the last minute waffling was odd and was super lost for a minute there. Because I was going to unlynch Jayna but the votes got more distinct and I was just trying to follow the waffles. 😕 So I’m still thinking on all those last minute peeps.

 

[Stagg737]

Whya re you village reading MJ? Why is YK not wolfy?

MJ should probably be "leaning village", but I've interacted with him on the forums for years now and watched him play as wolf in 2 games. Nothing he's done so far really reads wolf to me or seems like he's trying to be deceptive. YK isn't giving me wolfy feels, but the whole D1 thing makes me skeptical. Admittedly, I need to go back and read through D1 more closely to get some more solid impressions which is why I haven't voted yet, but that's where I'm sitting right now. I obviously may change that if given compelling reasons, but responses like Pippy's certainly won't make me change my mind.

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

Well I just got through all the posts that I missed, hopefully getting all of the backwards post read correctly. 😵 But I don’t think Lawpy is a wolf, just seems mad at the situation of being lynched and gave up. I did think all the last minute waffling was odd and was super lost for a minute there. Because I was going to unlynch Jayna but the votes got more distinct and I was just trying to follow the waffles. 😕 So I’m still thinking on all those last minute peeps.

Does anyone stand out as a wolf to you?

 

[dolphin106258]

Does anyone stand out as a wolf to you?

Well I don’t know everyone’s normal game play and personalities in general but I was initially thinking Mel, but I believe someone else pointed out that is just their normal. So not completely convinced.

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

Well I don’t know everyone’s normal game play and personalities in general but I was initially thinking Mel, but I believe someone else pointed out that is just their normal. So not completely convinced.

Any more insights?

 

[JaynaAli]

@JaynaAli

hguoht ,suovren uoy ekam yllareneg I esuaceb em rof setov sselesab ekil t'noD

I didn’t ever vote for you? It was part of my feels list and some reasons I’m watching you.

 

[Lawpy]

I’m slightly skeptical of Lawpy. Some of his posts are how he played as a wolf. Especially the one when he complains about getting on too late at lynch close (like you know when to get on, not being able to is different). Idk it just rubbed me the wrong way. I’ll do a read when i get up (afternoon).

This is a strange post. I don't know what posts you're referring to but you should realize the only time I played as wolf, I was more cautious and careful on what I say and wasn't really talkative unless there's some pressure on me.

Also I don't know what you mean by the bolded, and it seems to be taking things out of context. I already voted for you before lynch close and I was asking for other people's thoughts on players since I was thinking you're going to be lynched. I don't know how you can conclusively determine whether I was unable to do anything or know when to do something. I can't tell from other players so maybe you know something more.

My frustration pertains to this weird time sequence of the events that was pretty odd and caught me by surprise:

7 minutes before lynch close:

Official D1 Lynch Tally

Pippy (1) - FS
MJ (3) - AM, SAR, genny
Paws (1) - kara
Sporty (1) - Moose
Coffee? () -
AM (1) - dpmd
dolphin (1) - Jayna
Kara () -
Jayna (2) - Coffee?, dolphin
genny (1) - Sporty
Stagg (1) - jboo
jboo (2) - Stagg, Paws
WZ (4) - allie, Mel, Pippy, YK
FS () -
Kal (5) - Snowy, lawpy, MJ, WZ, Finski
Katashark () -
dpmd (1) - kata

24/25 voting
Lynch close in ~8 minutes
@Houstonnn97 we need your vote.
Please check your votes!
You all ruin my fun🙁🙁

4 minutes before lynch close:

Do these YK votes feel strangely like the way lynches ran the first couple days during Baking WW? No? Just me?

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3 minutes before lynch close:

@JaynaAli and @Animal Midwife if you were inclined to vote WZ, now would be the time to do it.

2 minutes before lynch close:

Get off my dick, Cheezit. Good lord.

1 minute before lynch close, which you pointed out:

And AM there’s a minute lol

uNLYCNH mj
Lynch WZ

Unlynch jboo
Lynch wz

A sudden change in votes a minute before lynch close.

The lynch is then closed and Jayna throws her vote after the lynch closing:

Lynched Closed

unlynch dolphin lynch wz

Woahhhhh

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Then my posts came because I had no idea what was going on and by the time I can do anything, the lynch was already closed:

😕

Why?

Crap i returned too late and have no idea what's going on

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How would anyone have expected this literal last minute change in votes when even you were surprised? And it's not just you and me, even other players were surprised, such as genny:

😱

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The mods already said when the lynch was going to close so everyone knows the deadline. But what came as a shock was this literal last minute change in votes. So that frustration of me being late that you're complaining is referring to my frustration and surprise of this last minute change in behavior that dramatically altered the D1 lynch. All my posts came after the lynch deadline because I was reading and trying to understand what was going on. How could I stop that last minute counterwagon when it came exactly last minute and just before the lynch close?

This is the weird/strange/sketchy timing behavior that should be focused on.

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I also find it odd that he complained about my reasons for Genny when it’s D1 and no one really had a strong reason and there were lots of votes without explanation. Why get hung up that i provided some reason for my pick and then say that they were sketchy

Contingency Lynch Lawper

Your vote on genny looked suspiciously opportunistic.

Alright guys I have to go to work and unless we are slow i will not be on around lynch. So don’t be to crazy with your waffles.

I have to go with
Lynch Genny
1. Because she’s already on the board
2. I’m still being salty about that pocket
3. She’s a good wolf and i don’t want to risk it, of the players up currently she scares me the most.

Reason 2 didn't make any sense to me and I didn't get much clarification. Reason 1 looks opportunistic. Prior to your vote, the tally was this:

Unofficial D1 Lynch Tally

Pippy (1) - karabou
MJ (1) - AM
Paws (2) - Genny, Finski
Sporty (1) - Moose
Coffee? () -
AM (2) - SAR, dpmd
dolphin (1) - Jayna
Kara () -
Jayna (2) - Coffee?, dolphin
genny (2) - Sporty, Snowy
Stagg (1) - jboo
jboo (1) - Stagg
WZ (2) - allie, Mel
FS (1) - WZ
Kal (1) - paws
Katashark (1) - Lawpy

A five-way tie?! 😏

19/25

Lynch close in ~6.5 hours

There were 5 players with 2 votes each but you decided to go for genny. Now look at Sporty and Snowy votes on genny:
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Booo. I like to think I played that game well.

Lynch genny 😛

Sporty's vote was a joke on early D1.

Your vote was just placed simply because there were already two votes on genny and your vote came later on D1. That felt opportunistic. Reason 2 didn't make much sense. And in Reason 3, you seemed to strongly feel genny is a good wolf and didn't want to risk it for whatever reason that went unexplained. And note that AM thought your vote was odd:

Alright guys I have to go to work and unless we are slow i will not be on around lynch. So don’t be to crazy with your waffles.

I have to go with
Lynch Genny
1. Because she’s already on the board
2. I’m still being salty about that pocket
3. She’s a good wolf and i don’t want to risk it, of the players up currently she scares me the most.

So you went with a meme vote.

When I made my vote on D1, I was thinking in terms of the most suspicious and odd players, and your vote on genny that looked opportunistic and vague was what bothered me.
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[Lawpy]

Whoops, weird SDN formatting deleted part of my comments:

Wow. Realizing I don't know a lot of these new players.. I guess it's been a few games since I've played 😛

Lynch genny

why?

Because that's our relationship 😛 Will probably switch later though.. I missed that she posted so early and I feel like she sits back more as a wolf.

What are your thoughts since you have posted so much already?

Also, Colorado contains 75% of the land area of the U.S. with an altitude over 10,000 feet

Snowy's vote on genny was early D1 and was mostly a joke with some minor meta feelings. It's hard to put much weight on meta in early D1.

 

[SnowshoeDog143]

Okay guys I'm finally back and going to catch up. But I'm pretty sick today so if I stop posting, I probably fell asleep 😛

 

[Lawpy]

Also, Lawper posted at 8:44 asking if MJ and WZ were the only ones in the lead. He acted like it was a shock come back at lynch close but clearly things were shaking up at 8:44 pm despite his astonished reactions later on.

Uh I mentioned that because Mel specifically asked me for my thoughts on viable lynch candidates:

Unlynch katasharky
Lynch youngkal

I don't like YK's reasons behind her vote on genny. They look opportunistic and irrational.

Cool. Got any thoughts on some of the people who are looking like viable lynch candidates?

Need to see an updated tally

Are MJ and WZ the only ones in the lead?

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[Lawpy]

Lynch Lawpy

for now because I don't like the "pressure voting" those who weren't even on compared with the black-and-white thinking today.

There's a difference between lynching someone who hasn't even checked in and lynching someone who is minimally active. Also one vote isn't necessarily pressure as a lot of people will just shrug off one vote. Tagging them and then following up with a little extra incentive (lynching) if ignored sure. But I don't see what you did as pressuring someone to be active

I don't know how you guys are able to tell whether someone actually checked in? What makes you think they didn't already check in and are just quietly reading and only posting once they caught up?

I'm not expecting one vote to have much of an effect but I'm glad people acknowledged and responded to them accordingly:

Unlynch Coffee?
Lynch @youngkal

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HIIIIIIIII! I’m here 🙂

I'm keeping my katashark pressure vote as is while I reread the thread. I'll switch my vote to a better candidate once I have a clearer idea who could be wolf.

I don't really think that 1 vote is a pressure vote, but also thanks for the tag earlier before you voted for me.

I was thinking combining a mention with a vote would be a better incentive than just a mention to get people to become active but guess not. ​

 

[Lawpy]

Lynch Lawpy

for now because I don't like the "pressure voting" those who weren't even on compared with the black-and-white thinking today.

Also not sure what "black-and-white thinking" you're referring to. I mentioned in the followup posts that it's really unlikely all wolves grouped together in the WZ counterwagon but I strongly doubt players in the WZ counterwagon are all village. The time sequence behind the votes is also really strange.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Also not sure what "black-and-white thinking" you're referring to. I mentioned in the followup posts that it's really unlikely all wolves grouped together in the WZ counterwagon but I strongly doubt players in the WZ counterwagon are all village. The time sequence behind the votes is also really strange.

You're refusing to look outside the WZ wagon. Do you know how many lynches it will take to get through everyone on there?