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Why haven't you voted yet?
I don't agree with the lawpy pile-on as I think he's just a noob (even though I disagree with his giving up behavior), I'm getting a villagy vibe from Mel based on his posts (they sound normal), I'm kinda leaning towards Dolphin as I don't feel like we've gotten a lot of substance from her and all of it was dragged out of her. I want to hear from other people! I'm tired of making decisions that people will read in to later when we only have information from less than half of the people in the game.
 
I don't agree with the lawpy pile-on as I think he's just a noob (even though I disagree with his giving up behavior), I'm getting a villagy vibe from Mel based on his posts (they sound normal), I'm kinda leaning towards Dolphin as I don't feel like we've gotten a lot of substance from her and all of it was dragged out of her. I want to hear from other people! I'm tired of making decisions that people will read in to later when we only have information from less than half of the people in the game.

People are going to read into your decisions regardless.
 
not wanting to spread the vote even thinner, especially with this abysmal turnout I'm going to look at those currently on the tally with votes

mel: did not like how late he pushed dubz last night plus banking on a rez he doesn't subscribe to that way of using it. Plus was ghosting today 😛 Could go either way on him
lawpy: didn't like the speed of this vote catching, been defending today, willing to give another day
staggs: quick to defend, gave a list of feels/reads but has yet to vote, why holding the vote?
dolphin: not seeing what koffee is seeing. Based on how dolphin responded to my questions feels like she's just a true noob trying to figure out how to play without any help
AM: feeling like normal am

lynch stagg
 
People are going to read into your decisions regardless.
Yes, but if my gut sends me towards a villager and then one of the people that is being lynched, like Lawpy, ends up being a wolf, it makes me look like I didn't vote for him on purpose. I like making informed decisions 🙂 the wolves have more information than the villagers so I don't believe in voting without at least more information than what we have. I'm going to wait and if no one else offers anything substantial by 9 pm, I'll officially lynch dolphin (but I'm not going to for now, just in case more info comes up in the next hour).
 
I don't think anything of dolphin but I've been at work all day and am 3+ pages behind.

Unless something major happened, my opinion is probably "noob is a noob". Going to my brother's HS graduation now but if I get the chance to sneak a read of the thread I will.

I'm not sure why I'm being asked about dolphin. Like, are they up for lynch? Am I a PM partner with them? Did they say something on thread (the "something major") that was sketchy? Like I said, I haven't read anything since this morning, besides stuff I was tagged or quoted in, so I don't know what's going on right now

Interesting that you think something major happened and that's why I'm asking you about dolphin. I was asking your opinion as you are pm buddies but very obviously you two aren't pm'ing. What type of noob though is what I was even more interested in
 
lynch jboo

Minor feels + not feeling the other current candidates. Lawp's "just a derpy villager" defense is getting a little annoying but read relatively genuine to me, at least initially. Mel is fine by me for now because he seems to just be being Mel (which mind you does not necessarily make him village, more so just throws him in my neutral/not-worried-about-it pile for now). I'm not even clear why on the votes for dolphin or stagg.
 
I think Lawper has posted some super sketch stuff in the last 24 hours. My first impression was noobish wolf who got some coaching from the pack, but seems he's been a wolf before? I am a firm believer in LIS rule #whatever to lynch that which votes for itself, but I'm glad he's at least been contributing. The strange part to me I'm having trouble accepting was how detrimental and earth shattering he seemed to view losing dubz (a vanillager) was, but today he's talking about how losing him, a poor lowly vanillager is okay. That is inconsistent. A villager is a villager number and losing one always hurts. It's going to happen, but it is never good. I'm going to give it another day at least but still on my sketch list.

I still get noob feels from dolphin. I remember my first game (which wasn't a noob game)...I was scared to post at all for fear of attracting attention. I liked the question posed about how many games they've followed or read.

Miranda has made at least one solid strategy post that was fairly substantial each day and has been asking good questions. There have been a couple today. A couple of those 'helpful' posts I always watch out for because it's a good way to look active as a wolf, but I'm getting a village lean so far.

Houstonn has checked in exactly once to acknowlege she could play, so the complete absence is strange. Clearly can't get a lean, but she needs to start contributing.

I'd like some thoughts from allie...I know she's quiet but I don't see anything from her except one of the very early dubz votes and a comment about the WW family tree.
 
Yes, but if my gut sends me towards a villager and then one of the people that is being lynched, like Lawpy, ends up being a wolf, it makes me look like I didn't vote for him on purpose. I like making informed decisions 🙂 the wolves have more information than the villagers so I don't believe in voting without at least more information than what we have. I'm going to wait and if no one else offers anything substantial by 9 pm, I'll officially lynch dolphin (but I'm not going to for now, just in case more info comes up in the next hour).
You are just adding to your sketch factor here. Only wolves are worried about how they are coming off to other people. If you are village you shouldn't be worried about how you appear to village. The goal of the game isn't to stay alive its to lynch the wolves. Even if you get lynched/die, if the village finds all the wolves, you still win.


Unlynch AM
Lynch Jboo
 
So pretty much everyone on WZ's lynch is suspect because she flipped village.. That makes sense.. 🙄

It's not just because she flipped village, it's because of the events leading up to it. Mel and YK both seemed to send off signals for people to switch votes, then suddenly 3 people attempt to switch their votes in the last 2 minutes? And then YK acts all surprised after being dramatic (tear tear bye bye). It sounds way too played out for someone NOT to have been a wolf. They were all next to each other in line for PMs (Jayna-Mel-Paws-AM), so we don't know what was being said. Idk, maybe we're tunneling a bit on the event, but I'd be shocked if all 5 of the people mentioned flipped village.

Wow retailory suspicions here... You went from pippy is fine to pippy is wolfy.

The tallest building in Colorado is the Republic Plaza at 57 stories high, in Denver.

So I was feeling ambivalent about Pippy yesterday because I wasn't looking into her posts much, but other people got some vibes from her. Then she nominated me for lynch with no explanation and when I asked for any kind of explanation her response was literally "haN" (Nah). I realize it's just one vote, but it wasn't a joke vote and no explanation was given, which gives me feels. I'm trying not to pay too much attention to those at the moment, because I've got no actual evidence and other people sketch me out more right now, but the feels are still there. If her post restriction goes away tonight or tomorrow, I'd like a little better answer, but if she's just going to be dismissive then she gets to stay on my sketchdar.

I don't really get the Jayna votes, she has made a lot of sense and not very sketch to me. I am going back and forth between YK and Lawper, but I'm leaning towards YK because of her comments on lawper's wolf play which don't match up to his actual play (now that I remember it). I don't have thoughts on mel. But he is helpful if he is village so not desperate to lynch him right away. He also pushes lynches hard when he is village or wolf so him pushing dubz is not necessarily sketchy to me. Miranda (is that who moose is?) is repeating other peoples thoughts a lot without much of her own analysis so she goes in my sketch pile. I really like coffee's analysis on dolphin too. No one else has really caught my eye as wolfy, but there are still a lot of people I don't have good reads on because they haven't posted a lot.

My reasons for questioning Jayna:

1. She was part of the PM train that flipped with D1 lynch.
2. She's apparently an experienced player, as the one detailed explanation I did read seemed pretty solid, it wouldn't be too hard for an experienced player to pop in and make one solid post then sit back.
3. She hasn't been very active (which is apparently her meta, so I'm not putting much weight there).

Idk what to think of her, but the first reason I listed put her on my radar as a potential wolf, though the statistical odds are obviously not great.

Just got done with errands and sitting down at a computer for the first time today. Catching up now.
First person I come across that suggests I was ghosting gets my lynch vote for the day 😛

What about spiriting? Phantoming? Bansheeing?

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Still wondering why you didn't at least try and give reasoning. For now I'm chalking it up to the post restriction, but I'd like better explanations going forward if the restriction drops.
 
Unofficial D2 lynch tally
Mel (3) - MJ, Sporty, Lawpy
Jayna () -
Lawper (4) - YK, AM, SAR, Jboo
Stagg (2) - Pippy, Kara
dolphin (2) - Coffee?, Snowy
AM () -
jboo (2) - FinnSki, Mel
allie (1) - Jayna
14/23
Lynch close ~2 hours
Role call: dolphin, allie, Stagg, kata, Houston, dpmd, FS, genny, MOOSE
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You are just adding to your sketch factor here. Only wolves are worried about how they are coming off to other people. If you are village you shouldn't be worried about how you appear to village. The goal of the game isn't to stay alive its to lynch the wolves. Even if you get lynched/die, if the village finds all the wolves, you still win.


Unlynch AM
Lynch Jboo
Fair enough, it's just that the last game the reason we lost was because people were sketch of me at the end and not as much of Sporty so I'm still in that frame of mind. I neglected how I appeared to the village last game and we lost, so I don't want to do that again.
 
I don't agree with the lawpy pile-on as I think he's just a noob (even though I disagree with his giving up behavior), I'm getting a villagy vibe from Mel based on his posts (they sound normal), I'm kinda leaning towards Dolphin as I don't feel like we've gotten a lot of substance from her and all of it was dragged out of her. I want to hear from other people! I'm tired of making decisions that people will read in to later when we only have information from less than half of the people in the game.
At least I’m saying something here! I’m trying to be more talkative, I just am not wanting to over post for no reason. I’m still feeling people out. But I don’t like all these people jumping on me for the sheer fact of the unknown. I’ve said I’m village, but most of y’all don’t really know me so if I kept asserting it that probs would’ve thrown up some red flags. :bag:
 
Interesting that you think something major happened and that's why I'm asking you about dolphin. I was asking your opinion as you are pm buddies but very obviously you two aren't pm'ing. What type of noob though is what I was even more interested in
The perpetually confused type 😵
 
lynch allie
for now to get some conversation flowing from her.

Also going to Lynch Allie for now as I haven't seen her post anything and she hasn't responded to my PMs.

I plan on waffling off of this before lynch closes, but would like to put a little pressure to see if she at least shows up.

So @allieh8607 , where you at girl?
 
At least I’m saying something here! I’m trying to be more talkative, I just am not wanting to over post for no reason. I’m still feeling people out. But I don’t like all these people jumping on me for the sheer fact of the unknown. I’ve said I’m village, but most of y’all don’t really know me so if I kept asserting it that probs would’ve thrown up some red flags. :bag:
I know it's your first game and you haven't discovered how you play yet 🙂 some friendly advice from a fellow noob is that you get a spreadsheet or some form of organization going. I tend not to quote a lot of things but instead reference them (because I wrote them down in my spreadsheet) but you can quote things and respond to them in an orderly manner 🙂
 
I don't think he's a wolf, just overdramatic. He's smarter than to paint a target on his back by pushing me as a lynch knowing he'd come under fire when I flip village.

Why would he come under fire if you flipped village? I've never played with you, but you're coming off as my #1 choice for lynch right now. Plus you have in your own signature:

"Then again, cheezit is the definition of sketch, so a vote for him is probably never wrong." - WildZoo 3/19/2018 1:39 p.m.
 
Official D2 lynch tally
Mel (3) - MJ, Sporty, Lawpy
Jayna () -
Lawper (4) - YK, AM, SAR, Jboo
Stagg (2) - Pippy, Kara
dolphin (2) - Coffee?, Snowy
AM () -
jboo (2) - FinnSki, Mel
allie (2) - Jayna, Stagg
15/23
Lynch close ~2 hours
Role call: dolphin, allie, kata, Houston, dpmd, FS, genny, MOOSE
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Part of me wants to believe that coffee? is going off of more than just post interpretation and is trying to be subtle about it, but I am not sure.
I am not reading mel as wolfy because I think he wouldn't have done what he has done so far this early as a wolf.
Lawper is definitely posting sketchily but so much so I think it is probably innocent overthinking.
Stagg, jboo, and allie I don't have much of a read on.
Not really leaning towards anyone else enough to throw a new name in.

Will ponder some more.
 
I am doing this on my phone so please excuse the weird quote order.

--Retalitory lynch Jayna
--Comment about trying to stay under the radar.. Doesn't want to be unintentionally sketchy except for strategizing? One, nobody *wants* to be sketchy, 2, I haven't seen any strategizing from her yet
--Quick to get on after my tag
--After getting on, said nothing except wondering why i think she is sketch and saying last night was to confusing to do anything, then saying Mel is sketch w/o reason
--Not to mention, didn't move her retalitory lynch even after saying she would
--Hasn't even denied it

Some might remember I was a noob wolf. There is an extra sense of caution, not looming to take chances. All the signs are here.

Hmm good points raised here. Wouldn't mind a dolphin lynch tbh especially since it's hard to read noob wolves.
 
not wanting to spread the vote even thinner, especially with this abysmal turnout I'm going to look at those currently on the tally with votes

mel: did not like how late he pushed dubz last night plus banking on a rez he doesn't subscribe to that way of using it. Plus was ghosting today 😛 Could go either way on him
lawpy: didn't like the speed of this vote catching, been defending today, willing to give another day
staggs: quick to defend, gave a list of feels/reads but has yet to vote, why holding the vote?
dolphin: not seeing what koffee is seeing. Based on how dolphin responded to my questions feels like she's just a true noob trying to figure out how to play without any help
AM: feeling like normal am

lynch stagg

I've held my vote this long because I don't have a concrete reason or feel for a single person yet, but my top two are Mel and Jboo. Was waiting to see if either of them picked up any more votes as me voting Mel would make it a tie, which is apparently very, very bad. Still leaning towards those two at the moment, but I've also seen some compelling arguments for Dolphin, though I could also see some of that reasoning just being noob play.
 
Why do you plan on waffling?

Because I'm getting no feels from her (at all since she hasn't been here) and was trying to make it a pressure vote. So no reason for me to actually lynch her.

I had a post about who I thought was wolfy earlier and not too much has changed since then. I plan to change my vote to either you, Mel, or Dolphin, so any reason why I shouldn't see you as a wolf?
 
I've held my vote this long because I don't have a concrete reason or feel for a single person yet, but my top two are Mel and Jboo. Was waiting to see if either of them picked up any more votes as me voting Mel would make it a tie, which is apparently very, very bad. Still leaning towards those two at the moment, but I've also seen some compelling arguments for Dolphin, though I could also see some of that reasoning just being noob play.
Just wanted to let you know it's only bad if you create a tie and that ends up being the final vote and we're too far away from lynch for that to be your excuse about voting between those 2. also, by waiting to see if other people vote and then jumping on a bandwagon is sketch.
 
Why would he come under fire if you flipped village? I've never played with you, but you're coming off as my #1 choice for lynch right now. Plus you have in your own signature:

"Then again, cheezit is the definition of sketch, so a vote for him is probably never wrong." - WildZoo 3/19/2018 1:39 p.m.
Parse it out. Lawper is suggesting we lynch through myself and the people who waffled last minute (Jayna, AM, Paws). If he was trying to set us up as consecutive mislynches by killing one (Paws) to narrow down who could be painted as wolf, and then I flip village, people start looking at him weird.

Re: My signature
I've been called sketch literally since my first post of my first game. I have a similar background as you, played/modded a lot of games IRL and using some of those strategies in forum style has made me sketchy af from the get go haha. My signature also says that I'm a witch....so......
 
I know it's your first game and you haven't discovered how you play yet 🙂 some friendly advice from a fellow noob is that you get a spreadsheet or some form of organization going. I tend not to quote a lot of things but instead reference them (because I wrote them down in my spreadsheet) but you can quote things and respond to them in an orderly manner 🙂
Okay thanks for the advice that will definitely help.
 
🙄

Went back and look at what you were talking about. I literally popped on right before you posted that. Had just finished up a scholarship app.

Still waiting on the results of your thorough read through btw
Timestamp: 9:01 p.m. EST
Working on it now. Better late than never!
Timestamp: 9:06 p.m. EST

This was the latest post you made prior to my quoting and calling you out.
Timestamp: 1:49 p.m EST

Definition of beetlejuicing.
 
Parse it out. Lawper is suggesting we lynch through myself and the people who waffled last minute (Jayna, AM, Paws). If he was trying to set us up as consecutive mislynches by killing one (Paws) to narrow down who could be painted as wolf, and then I flip village, people start looking at him weird.

Re: My signature
I've been called sketch literally since my first post of my first game. I have a similar background as you, played/modded a lot of games IRL and using some of those strategies in forum style has made me sketchy af from the get go haha. My signature also says that I'm a witch....so......

So to be clear, your argument is that wolfy Lawper would have killed Paws, then try and convince people to lynch through a bunch of you to widdle down the village because none of you are wolves? Even if only one is wolf (which I think is likely), I don't think it's statistically likely they would be the last pick of that group. So while I understand what you're getting at, I don't buy it because of the current answers I have for my question of "why NK Paws?" Which could admittedly be wrong, but only the very wildest comes back to Law being responsible.

The signature was a semi-joke, since you are coming off as one of the wolfier players to me. Others have dismissed it as your normal play, but it doesn't change that you're coming off wolfy to me. Besides, maybe you'll just get rezzed...
 
I'm aware self-votes are bad but I didn't want to be a long-term nuisance. Now that I got into the analysis mode, I'll do what I can to help village. I just didn't want to be a burden 🙁

I know you've been told this many times today at this point, but yes, self votes are sketchy. Having more villagers around is good. No more "woe is me" stuff. You've played several games by the sound of it, and you haven't been a wolf in all of them, so this is stuff you should know I feel like. The instant give up/self vote is very very very very sketchy in my book. You should have been helping village all along, not just now that you are in "analysis mode."

I was making a pun 😛 (you have a question mark at the end of your name haha) but I don't know if you have proof or not. I'm not discrediting you as I think you made some very good points (especially about the tagging her and her immediately showing up) but I don't know if I'm on board as she's barely read any games and this is her first one and her comments did sound pretty noobish to me.

Idk, but something about your posts is reading wolfy to me. Not this one in particular, but previous ones for sure. i'm just too lazy to requote them.

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I agree, but not because of what I think Moose said about MJ becoming enraged in some other game? MJ just feels village to me at this point.

I think Lawper has posted some super sketch stuff in the last 24 hours. My first impression was noobish wolf who got some coaching from the pack, but seems he's been a wolf before? I am a firm believer in LIS rule #whatever to lynch that which votes for itself, but I'm glad he's at least been contributing. The strange part to me I'm having trouble accepting was how detrimental and earth shattering he seemed to view losing dubz (a vanillager) was, but today he's talking about how losing him, a poor lowly vanillager is okay. That is inconsistent. A villager is a villager number and losing one always hurts. It's going to happen, but it is never good. I'm going to give it another day at least but still on my sketch list.

I still get noob feels from dolphin. I remember my first game (which wasn't a noob game)...I was scared to post at all for fear of attracting attention. I liked the question posed about how many games they've followed or read.

Miranda has made at least one solid strategy post that was fairly substantial each day and has been asking good questions. There have been a couple today. A couple of those 'helpful' posts I always watch out for because it's a good way to look active as a wolf, but I'm getting a village lean so far.

Houstonn has checked in exactly once to acknowlege she could play, so the complete absence is strange. Clearly can't get a lean, but she needs to start contributing.

I'd like some thoughts from allie...I know she's quiet but I don't see anything from her except one of the very early dubz votes and a comment about the WW family tree.

I'm getting wolfy vibes from Lawper and dolphin. Dolphin could just be a good noob, but I'm agreeing with coffee's thoughts on dolphin. I agree about the helpful posts from Miranda. but she's seeming more sketchy than village to me at this point. allie is always quiet and I feel like she often plays where she checks in once and throws out a vote.

I'm going with dolphin at this point because the posts feel weird to me, they feel coached. I kind of think it's super weird to not PM anyone as a noob, not even for off-thread advice? IDK, they could just be really good at not trusting anyone, but coffee's got me kind of convinced. Lawper is by no means off the hook though, but at least they put up a good fight.

Stagg feels noob to me based on PMs, but I could definitely be wrong.


lynch dolphin
 
Official D2 lynch tally
Mel (3) - MJ, Sporty, Lawpy
Jayna () -
Lawper (4) - YK, AM, SAR, Jboo
Stagg (2) - Pippy, Kara
dolphin (3) - Coffee?, Snowy, Kata
AM () -
jboo (2) - FinnSki, Mel
allie (2) - Jayna, Stagg
15/23
Lynch close ~1 hours
Role call: dolphin, allie, Houston, dpmd, FS, genny, MOOSE
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Timestamp: 9:01 p.m. EST

Timestamp: 9:06 p.m. EST

This was the latest post you made prior to my quoting and calling you out.

Timestamp: 1:49 p.m EST

Definition of beetlejuicing.
Not even sure it's worth it but here
EDIT: took away screenshot email bc personal info was on it
 
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I know you've been told this many times today at this point, but yes, self votes are sketchy. Having more villagers around is good. No more "woe is me" stuff. You've played several games by the sound of it, and you haven't been a wolf in all of them, so this is stuff you should know I feel like. The instant give up/self vote is very very very very sketchy in my book. You should have been helping village all along, not just now that you are in "analysis mode."



Idk, but something about your posts is reading wolfy to me. Not this one in particular, but previous ones for sure. i'm just too lazy to requote them.



I agree, but not because of what I think Moose said about MJ becoming enraged in some other game? MJ just feels village to me at this point.



I'm getting wolfy vibes from Lawper and dolphin. Dolphin could just be a good noob, but I'm agreeing with coffee's thoughts on dolphin. I agree about the helpful posts from Miranda. but she's seeming more sketchy than village to me at this point. allie is always quiet and I feel like she often plays where she checks in once and throws out a vote.

I'm going with dolphin at this point because the posts feel weird to me, they feel coached. I kind of think it's super weird to not PM anyone as a noob, not even for off-thread advice? IDK, they could just be really good at not trusting anyone, but coffee's got me kind of convinced. Lawper is by no means off the hook though, but at least they put up a good fight.

Stagg feels noob to me based on PMs, but I could definitely be wrong.


lynch dolphin
Just so you know it was the last game, it was LYLO, and MJ went nuts after I said he was suspicious and I was going to lynch him. He went after me and essentially rage quit! We lynched him and he was a wolf. But this time when people vote to lynch him early he's super chill about it. I'm just going based off of my single experience with him.
 
I've held my vote this long because I don't have a concrete reason or feel for a single person yet, but my top two are Mel and Jboo. Was waiting to see if either of them picked up any more votes as me voting Mel would make it a tie, which is apparently very, very bad. Still leaning towards those two at the moment, but I've also seen some compelling arguments for Dolphin, though I could also see some of that reasoning just being noob play.

Yet, you gave reads/feels so you obviously had some thought behind where people fell and could have voted for one of those early on rather than waiting.

This applies to Stagg, @Miranda Senft, and anyone else who holds their vote this game. You can always waffle. Getting in a vote earlier allows you to evaluate how someone responds to that vote and then go with someone else if you want to. Seems I'm always saying this in games
 
Just so you know it was the last game, it was LYLO, and MJ went nuts after I said he was suspicious and I was going to lynch him. He went after me and essentially rage quit! We lynched him and he was a wolf. But this time when people vote to lynch him early he's super chill about it. I'm just going based off of my single experience with him.
Yeah, I feel like he's rage quitted before from a game a really long time ago, but my memory often fails me. I guess I just don't really like to go off of behavior in past games because I find each new game to have it's own set of circumstances going on/set up/roles/etc. Maybe I'm just not meta enough though or I'm too lazy to read through games that I didn't play. lol.
 
Yet, you gave reads/feels so you obviously had some thought behind where people fell and could have voted for one of those early on rather than waiting.

This applies to Stagg, @Miranda Senft, and anyone else who holds their vote this game. You can always waffle. Getting in a vote earlier allows you to evaluate how someone responds to that vote and then go with someone else if you want to. Seems I'm always saying this in games
Fine, fair enough. It's 9 pm anyways, when I said I would vote.
Lynch Dolphin
Because it sounds like Coffee? has some inside info to go off on based on all of the accusations. If Dolphin ends up being village, the first contingency lynch will be Coffee?.
 
Miranda has given me some sketchy feels too and I could vote there, but I'd have to go back and look for the actual posts where that occurred. Never played a game with her though, so she's not the easiest for me to read.

I kind of think it's super weird to not PM anyone as a noob, not even for off-thread advice?

I don't really find this weird tbh.
 
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