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˙ɟɟnʇs ɥʇᴉʍ ǝǝɹƃɐ I uǝɥʍ sǝʞᴉl ƃuᴉddoɹp ǝqʎɐɯ 'pɐǝɹɥʇ ǝɥʇ ɥʇᴉʍ dn ƃuᴉdǝǝʞ ǝq llᴉʇs ll,I ˙ǝuoɥd ʎɯ uo sᴉɥʇ ƃuᴉop ʇou ɯ,I ʇnq ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ǝɥʇ uo puɐ ǝɯoɥ ɯ,I ɟᴉ ɹǝʍsuɐ ll,I ǝqʎɐɯ 'ǝʞᴉ˥ ˙ɹǝʍsuɐ uɐ ʇǝƃ oʇ ʎlǝʞᴉlun ǝɹ,no⅄ ˙ɥƃnoɥʇ suoᴉʇsǝnb ǝɯ ʞsɐ ʇ,uop ˙pǝʇᴉɯs ʇǝƃ ʇ,uop I puɐ pɐǝɥ ʎɯ os ǝʇoʌ ɥɔuʎl ɐ doɹp oʇ ʞɔɐq ǝq llᴉM ˙sʎɐʍʎuɐ ʎɐp ǝɥʇ ɟo ʇsoɯ ǝlᴉqoɯ ǝq oʇ ƃuᴉoƃ sɐʍ I ǝsnɐɔǝq 'ʎluo ʇou ʇnq 'ʎllɐᴉɔǝdsƎ ˙sᴉɥʇ ɥʇᴉʍ ƃuᴉɹǝɥʇoq ʇou ɯ,I ǝsnɐɔǝq ʎɐp ǝɥʇ ɹoɟ ʇno ƃuᴉɔɐǝd ɯ,I ˙ʞɔns suoᴉʇɔᴉɹʇsǝɹ ʇsod ǝɥʇ 'ʎlsnoᴉɹǝS

˙ǝdoN ˙ǝdoN ˙ǝdoN
 
Stagg737 said:
Because there's info that's not consistent between my PMs with her and Kata and what she has posted on thread. To be clear, I'm not saying not to PM her. I'm asking you to wait until she answers a few questions that I already PM'd her before you start, as I don't want someone I suspect is a wolf getting more info than they should.

Also, you're positive about this information? Were you just told she's a seer or was there something more specific than that? I'm not asking you to share the info, just how confident you are about Allie being village.
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I can play along for now but I eventually do want to consolidate information between the two seers.

If she is claiming affiliation seer, its an easy (if not ballsy) claim to make as a wolf because barring third parties (of which I can't imagine many more in this game) a wolf WOULD know everyone's affiliations. AM (RIP) had a point that if you know the people that Allie has "cleared" you should go back and read the thread to see if they match up with the people she was suspecting publicly. Its a good gauge to see if she's been actively affiliation seering, or blowing smoke to you/kata and "clearing" people she wants to "clear".
 
Melchizedek said:
I can play along for now but I eventually do want to consolidate information between the two seers.

If she is claiming affiliation seer, its an easy (if not ballsy) claim to make as a wolf because barring third parties (of which I can't imagine many more in this game) a wolf WOULD know everyone's affiliations. AM (RIP) had a point that if you know the people that Allie has "cleared" you should go back and read the thread to see if they match up with the people she was suspecting publicly. Its a good gauge to see if she's been actively affiliation seering, or blowing smoke to you/kata and clearing people she wants to clear.
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Already asked this and a couple other questions. No response yet, but I'll update you every couple hours until she responds.
 
I was blocked last night, sounds like it may have been by AM if they would have allowed that before she died.
 
Unlynch Allie

I haven't cleared her by any means, but her responses make enough sense to me that I'm willing to look elsewhere for now.

@Melchizedek , go ahead and PM with Allie. She's answered the questions I needed her to.
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
The noob that has helped catch two wolves I think is doing just fine with her lgoic

@genny would love to hear what is tipping you off
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Nothing specific. I just have a short list and she’s on it. There was something about voting that made me think her, in addition to lawpy’s lynch yesterday but I’m on mobile so it will have to wait for later for me to find it.
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
I also want a spotlight on genny.

EDIT: I change my mind
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why for both things, when you aren't missing?

CoffeeQuestionMark said:
Wth is this post. Did she know something about me before I announced it?
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I'm with dubz, it was obvious

CoffeeQuestionMark said:
Why would anyone ASSUME it though. And despite what I got from you last night, this defense makes me :eyebrow:
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It's a game of words. That's what we have to work off of. It's also a game of subtlety so we are going to make assumptions. If those assumptions are wrong, we will question the source. I also don't see how dubz is defending jayna

WildZoo said:
First of all, hush. Second, defense? I'm not defending jayna. I'm offering my interpretation of her statement. I'm reading it differently than you are I think.
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um, dubz do your words have more power than you realize?

CoffeeQuestionMark said:
The noob that has helped catch two wolves I think is doing just fine with her lgoic

@genny would love to hear what is tipping you off
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what about your logic with dolphin? And were you using logic with moose or was that your ability? Koffee, you need to cool down. Go back and read some of the older games and you will understand where the older players are coming from. What jayna and dubz are talking about is a very common occurrence in ww. Especially when there are pm's
 
Animal Midwife said:
@katashark Are they claiming affiliation seer... because i hate that
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katashark said:
Yes. I agree because it's too easy to fake if they are a wolf because they know who is wolf/villager already.
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So I originally read this as pretty strongly implying that whoever kata was talking about was claiming affiliation seer.

Are we saying now that she didn't actually know what type of seer they were claiming?
 
Will be on intermittently this afternoon and will be around more in the evening.

I'm not entirely sure that 2 seers balances out the triple kill MOOSE had. Would think there would have been a rez or two to balance it.
 
Melchizedek said:
If she is claiming affiliation seer, its an easy (if not ballsy) claim to make as a wolf because barring third parties (of which I can't imagine many more in this game) a wolf WOULD know everyone's affiliations.
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Not entirely true, considering chaos and lone wolfs come up. Do you have reason to believe there's a wolf seer?
 
johnnaboo said:
Not entirely true, considering chaos and lone wolfs come up. Do you have reason to believe there's a wolf seer?
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He did say "barring third parties"
Did you not read the whole discussion of the second seer?
 
WildZoo said:
He did say "barring third parties"
Did you not read the whole discussion of the second seer?
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Yeah, I know, just unsure if there's any more out there. Wouldn't be the weirdest part of this game.

And yes, I read it, but I'm back tracking a bit bc considering how kata flipped and how we now have a dead blocker. I think if there are 2 confirmed seers one would be killed off by woofs by now.
 
finnickthedog said:
˙ɟɟnʇs ɥʇᴉʍ ǝǝɹƃɐ I uǝɥʍ sǝʞᴉl ƃuᴉddoɹp ǝqʎɐɯ 'pɐǝɹɥʇ ǝɥʇ ɥʇᴉʍ dn ƃuᴉdǝǝʞ ǝq llᴉʇs ll,I ˙ǝuoɥd ʎɯ uo sᴉɥʇ ƃuᴉop ʇou ɯ,I ʇnq ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ǝɥʇ uo puɐ ǝɯoɥ ɯ,I ɟᴉ ɹǝʍsuɐ ll,I ǝqʎɐɯ 'ǝʞᴉ˥ ˙ɹǝʍsuɐ uɐ ʇǝƃ oʇ ʎlǝʞᴉlun ǝɹ,no⅄ ˙ɥƃnoɥʇ suoᴉʇsǝnb ǝɯ ʞsɐ ʇ,uop ˙pǝʇᴉɯs ʇǝƃ ʇ,uop I puɐ pɐǝɥ ʎɯ os ǝʇoʌ ɥɔuʎl ɐ doɹp oʇ ʞɔɐq ǝq llᴉM ˙sʎɐʍʎuɐ ʎɐp ǝɥʇ ɟo ʇsoɯ ǝlᴉqoɯ ǝq oʇ ƃuᴉoƃ sɐʍ I ǝsnɐɔǝq 'ʎluo ʇou ʇnq 'ʎllɐᴉɔǝdsƎ ˙sᴉɥʇ ɥʇᴉʍ ƃuᴉɹǝɥʇoq ʇou ɯ,I ǝsnɐɔǝq ʎɐp ǝɥʇ ɹoɟ ʇno ƃuᴉɔɐǝd ɯ,I ˙ʞɔns suoᴉʇɔᴉɹʇsǝɹ ʇsod ǝɥʇ 'ʎlsnoᴉɹǝS

˙ǝdoN ˙ǝdoN ˙ǝdoN
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At least we can read this easily on mobile lol
*****
 
johnnaboo said:
Yeah, I know, just unsure if there's any more out there. Wouldn't be the weirdest part of this game.

And yes, I read it, but I'm back tracking a bit bc considering how kata flipped and how we now have a dead blocker. I think if there are 2 confirmed seers one would be killed off by woofs by now.
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Well one of them was absent for the first 3 days and 2 nights of the game, and the other wasn't confirmed until a day or two ago and is now buried somewhere. Plus we don't know what events AM managed to block other than Allie last night if that is true.

johnnaboo said:
Will be on intermittently this afternoon and will be around more in the evening.

I'm not entirely sure that 2 seers balances out the triple kill MOOSE had. Would think there would have been a rez or two to balance it.
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I agree with the bolded, you should go back and re-read the events before the last lynch.
 
Stagg737 said:
Well one of them was absent for the first 3 days and 2 nights of the game, and the other wasn't confirmed until a day or two ago and is now buried somewhere. Plus we don't know what events AM managed to block other than Allie last night if that is true.



I agree with the bolded, you should go back and re-read the events before the last lynch.
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Question for you. With kata dead, have you revealed your ability to anyone else? Since afaik you never "proved" it while kata was alive?
 
SARdoghandler said:
Question for you. With kata dead, have you revealed your ability to anyone else? Since afaik you never "proved" it while kata was alive?
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Not completely. I talked about it a bit with Dolphin, but she barely asked me any questions about it, so I didn't share. I don't feel comfortable enough to share it with just Allie yet. I believe Kara has a pretty good idea what it is, but I only shared a somewhat vague detail with her in PM regarding why I haven't used it/proven it yet. Beyond that the only things I've shared about it are in thread.

If enough people find it necessary, I will role reveal with full details in thread as I don't think that will make a huge difference to conditions that may or may not apply to it, but I have wanted to keep the wolves in the dark about it as long as possible. I'll also add that I'm not worried about being NK'd, though Idk if that fact may just cause more confusion than help.
 
Official D6 lynch tally- High altitude alpine lakes
Jboo (2)-SAR, mel
Allie (1)- jboo
Jayna (1)- Genny
Sporty (1)-KB
5/13

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Lake of the clouds ~11,700 ft
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Dream Lake ~9,900 ft
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Nymph Lake ~9,500 ft
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Emerald Lake ~12,100 ft
 
SARdoghandler said:
Question for you. With kata dead, have you revealed your ability to anyone else? Since afaik you never "proved" it while kata was alive?
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I'll also add that I fully revealed everything I knew about my ability to Kata, because she was the only player that I comfortably cleared as village. I'm not a wolf, but if we need me to role reveal to move on from questioning me and focus on others, I will do it.
 
Stagg737 said:
I'll also add that I fully revealed everything I knew about my ability to Kata, because she was the only player that I comfortably cleared as village. I'm not a wolf, but if we need me to role reveal to move on from questioning me and focus on others, I will do it.
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I would not role reveal on thread at this point. I just didnt want this to be a forgotten point as it probably should and will come again in the future
 
Stagg737 said:
I'll also add that I'm not worried about being NK'd, though Idk if that fact may just cause more confusion than help.
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Can you clarify this because in PM this morning you said you felt there was a good chance you were going to be NK'd last night.
 
allieh8607 said:
Can you clarify this because in PM this morning you said you felt there was a good chance you were going to be NK'd last night.
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I thought there was a chance I'd get NK'd because I've made some statements about my ability being able to balance Moose's ability and Kata said I was making some "bold claims" about it. That combined with the fact that Genny said my statements would put a target on my back made me feel like I was a legit candidate for a NK.

My statement in regards to not being worried about getting NK'd means exactly that. I'm not worried about getting NK'd. There's a few ways to interpret that, but I'm not willing to do that in thread unless I do a full role reveal. If you want clarification I may be enticed to help you understand a bit better in PM's, but for now that's all I'm going to say in regards to the NK aspect.
 
allieh8607 said:
[Info about my ability] but someone convinced you you had to climb a 14er first and couldn't make it to the top to [info about my ability]
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Interesting. The reason I asked is because I was blocked via Colorado brownie last night.

(To anyone): Do we have reason to believe that there are two types of blocking? Item and ability? Two different abilities?
 
finnickthedog said:
˙ɟɟnʇs ɥʇᴉʍ ǝǝɹƃɐ I uǝɥʍ sǝʞᴉl ƃuᴉddoɹp ǝqʎɐɯ 'pɐǝɹɥʇ ǝɥʇ ɥʇᴉʍ dn ƃuᴉdǝǝʞ ǝq llᴉʇs ll,I ˙ǝuoɥd ʎɯ uo sᴉɥʇ ƃuᴉop ʇou ɯ,I ʇnq ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ǝɥʇ uo puɐ ǝɯoɥ ɯ,I ɟᴉ ɹǝʍsuɐ ll,I ǝqʎɐɯ 'ǝʞᴉ˥ ˙ɹǝʍsuɐ uɐ ʇǝƃ oʇ ʎlǝʞᴉlun ǝɹ,no⅄ ˙ɥƃnoɥʇ suoᴉʇsǝnb ǝɯ ʞsɐ ʇ,uop ˙pǝʇᴉɯs ʇǝƃ ʇ,uop I puɐ pɐǝɥ ʎɯ os ǝʇoʌ ɥɔuʎl ɐ doɹp oʇ ʞɔɐq ǝq llᴉM ˙sʎɐʍʎuɐ ʎɐp ǝɥʇ ɟo ʇsoɯ ǝlᴉqoɯ ǝq oʇ ƃuᴉoƃ sɐʍ I ǝsnɐɔǝq 'ʎluo ʇou ʇnq 'ʎllɐᴉɔǝdsƎ ˙sᴉɥʇ ɥʇᴉʍ ƃuᴉɹǝɥʇoq ʇou ɯ,I ǝsnɐɔǝq ʎɐp ǝɥʇ ɹoɟ ʇno ƃuᴉɔɐǝd ɯ,I ˙ʞɔns suoᴉʇɔᴉɹʇsǝɹ ʇsod ǝɥʇ 'ʎlsnoᴉɹǝS

˙ǝdoN ˙ǝdoN ˙ǝdoN
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I don't know how I missed this post earlier. This is...absurd
 
SportPonies said:
Interesting. The reason I asked is because I was blocked via Colorado brownie last night.

(To anyone): Do we have reason to believe that there are two types of blocking? Item and ability? Two different abilities?
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I've seen no evidence of items other than the brownie which makes me think it's actually a role
 
johnnaboo said:
Yeah, I know, just unsure if there's any more out there. Wouldn't be the weirdest part of this game.

And yes, I read it, but I'm back tracking a bit bc considering how kata flipped and how we now have a dead blocker. I think if there are 2 confirmed seers one would be killed off by woofs by now.
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Well, AM did say she was attacked night...2? So probably maybe a protector out there too.
 
@Stagg737 if you're unsure of Allie's affiliation it does no good to reveal to her in PM.

Just my opinion, but PM role reveals bug me in the first place, unless you're fully prepared for the possibility that the information is only going to reach the wolves. I probably sound like a broken record at this point lol
 
WildZoo said:
@Stagg737 if you're unsure of Allie's affiliation it does no good to reveal to her in PM.

Just my opinion, but PM role reveals bug me in the first place, unless you're fully prepared for the possibility that the information is only going to reach the wolves. I probably sound like a broken record at this point lol
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Oh, I'm not talking about full role reveal, but there are some questions I can answer (like I did for Kara) regarding my power that don't reveal what it actually is.
 
@genny what are your thoughts on dpmd today and why did you lynch sporty during that hour after the vig shot?

@Melchizedek you got anything more than feels? We've had 2 wolf lynches now. Or do you want to just continue letting others push your votes for you? And you haven't answered my 'why jayna' from way back. Kind of want to lynch you again

@SportPonies where are your thoughts at today?

@JaynaAli if you didn't have time to catch up on thread yesterday, why did you vote for lawpy?

@johnnaboo looking forward to seeing more from you today. Got any thoughts on people other than allie?
 
Stagg737 said:
Not completely. I talked about it a bit with Dolphin, but she barely asked me any questions about it, so I didn't share. I don't feel comfortable enough to share it with just Allie yet. I believe Kara has a pretty good idea what it is, but I only shared a somewhat vague detail with her in PM regarding why I haven't used it/proven it yet. Beyond that the only things I've shared about it are in thread.

If enough people find it necessary, I will role reveal with full details in thread as I don't think that will make a huge difference to conditions that may or may not apply to it, but I have wanted to keep the wolves in the dark about it as long as possible. I'll also add that I'm not worried about being NK'd, though Idk if that fact may just cause more confusion than help.
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I have no idea what it is actually. I thought I had a suspicion but all I know is you mentioned it balances moose's triple kill and what you told me just confuses me more
 
Tbh I'd like to hold off on doing anything regarding the seer situation until coffee is available again. Dunno if the jailing goes into effect at night and therefore would have blocked her action.

Part of me wants to lynch allie but I can't get past how silly the timing of the reveal was. Even if it was intended to get us to lynch coffee or something, if coffee comes up village allie gets lynched the next day. So I'm not going there just yet.
 
WildZoo said:
Tbh I'd like to hold off on doing anything regarding the seer situation until coffee is available again. Dunno if the jailing goes into effect at night and therefore would have blocked her action.

Part of me wants to lynch allie but I can't get past how silly the timing of the reveal was. Even if it was intended to get us to lynch coffee or something, if coffee comes up village allie gets lynched the next day. So I'm not going there just yet.
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it does make me wonder if they are both village what other abilities the wolves might have that required 2 village seers. Probably not something to think about but my mod brain went here
 
Karabiner13 said:
it does make me wonder if they are both village what other abilities the wolves might have that required 2 village seers. Probably not something to think about but my mod brain went here
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Lol I was having the same thoughts but was like "nope I don't really want to think about those possibilities"

How many wolves are we probably looking at anyway? 5, or 4+convert? Maybe less because of the third parties and triple kill...
 
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