I had a couple friends/classmates that did not match into residency the first go-around even though they were stellar students (Rho Chi, heavily involved in extracurriculars/school, worked while in school, etc.) that worked in a remote/rural area hospital as a pharmacist for 1 year and then reapplied for residency thereafter and matched then. Now they work for hospitals in metropolitan/urban areas. They gave up their 100K+ salaries to pursue residency and ultimately move to a more desirable area. This happened around 2013-16. I still think this is a possibility even today despite the increased saturation. The main question is about flexibility and whether one is willing to relocate for a short while to gain the upside of the rest of their careers.
Because blind optimism is foolish and naive
Typically it is because they have a difficult time retaining talent for the rural/less urban areas, so they may be more inclined to taking on revolving staff (similar to the idea of traveler nurses) via recruiting companies to fill the staff gaps at their institution. By no means am I saying that this is an easy process and you shouldn't move until you've secured the job/licensing. What I am saying is that there are opportunities still available out there. My friend mentioned that if he didn't match residency the second go around, he would have stayed another year and done the same process all over again or do three years, take the BCPS exam, and then go from there (via job or residency again). Luckily it worked in his favor for the second go around.
You could have just moved along and not posted.. But good job in not following the original hope for the thread.
You really don't need to reply to me that way. I started this thread for other people's benefit. The point of this thread was to offer actual helpful info and you could have posted something nicely written and constructive. Clearly you missed the point.
I think many pharmacists are just frustrated at that question because how can we help pharmacy students when we can't even help ourselves? What advice can we give students on the job search when we know damn well if lost ours now it's going to be extremely difficult to find another one ourselves despite our experience? What advice can we give students entering the profession when many of us are planning our exit strategy?
That is a very valid point of view. When I originally started this thread, it was before the Wal-mart crap and I believe before the CVS closures, but I don't remember for sure on that part. The post was honestly good intentioned for why it was important.
Why is that "super interesting" though? Did you think its not possible for there to be a possibility there will be a few that actually get a job while the majority doesn't? Like if your professor says ~70% of the starting class will drop the course before the end of the semester, you automatically think 100% of the class will drop it and will find it interesting if ~30% stays?
So why did you find it interesting that one person found a job? Were you not expecting it?
Mr literal over here...
lol. At first I was just messing with you but now I am understanding that you literally thought that because the majority of graduates will not get jobs, that meant that there are no jobs at all. Why did you disagree to my first post about your weird logic?
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If I read correctly that you are going to Creighton distance, maybe you can explain why distance students have to find their own rotations and pay $56,000 instead of $37,000 for your 4th professional year tuition when the preceptors get paid a few hundred dollars a month unless I'm reading it wrong. Tuition, Fees, Room & Board | Financial Aid | Creighton University
Even before the Walmart layoffs we could see it coming though. Every single chain have been consistently cutting their hours for a while now. Last year Walgreens closed half of their Rite Aid acquisitions and Shopko closed completely leaving thousands of pharmacists jobless. I don't know why people fail to recognize trends? We've been news story after news story of store closures, acquisitions, and layoffs; BLS estimates supply growing 8x slower than demand; HRSA just estimated an under/unemployment rate of up to 12% by 2030... Yet people think everything will be fine and dandy 4 years from now because they have 3 friends who got jobs 3 years ago like our friend johnd93 here. What is the logic behind this? Is it failure to understand basic statistics or economics?
Please understand that we all have good intentions despite the negative posts.
Its also because of pharmacy students posting videos on youtube saying how everything will work out as long as you have faith in god. They also say just ignore the statistics and ignore pharmacists telling you about saturation because those people are trying to bring you down. Then you will see in the comment section something along the lines of, "This is what I needed to hear. I will always have my greatest weapon by my side always!" I have also seen someone saying even if stats are bad, you should take that chance because you could end up on top. Just search up pharmacy saturation in youtube to see for yourself.
