I say finance is the same, anything that is in the news and follow the herd mentality will result saturation in 5-7 years. Same for trades, finance, coding boot camps. Pharmacy is just one of the worst though. Because other fields have higher growth. If I was to talk to my kid, I would say do something else, non medical altogether.
The U.S. Department of Education reports that while there were roughly 9.66 million students attending trade schools in 1999, an estimated 16 million were enrolled 2014. In other words, trade schools are adding students roughly as fast as colleges are losing them.
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The U.S. Department of Education reports that while there were roughly 9.66 million students attending trade schools in 1999, an estimated 16 million were enrolled 2014. In other words, trade schools are adding students roughly as fast as colleges are losing them.
it even says college admissions is lagging. Which more demand for trades. I said give it 5-7 year. If the media thinks it popular, its not a good idea. You see people doing hedge fund? no. You got to think outside the box. Same thing happened to Dental, PT. If you follow the market. It saturated the whole healthcare industry, and it is going down. Doctors have a lot of fears too. As I repeat, Pharmacy is the worse one right now though. I would not recommend it to a family memberIs Trade School Right for You?
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Trades is good. Germany has it. I woodwork on the side and planning to work on that side for a bit to gain knowledge on that area. It's what America was doing many years ago before this college boom
I thought healthcare was recession proof
Lol you prepharms are so naive it's funny. You seriously think the 15000 people who just graduated are lazy and didn't apply themselves? You are overestimating yourself. I just graduated and can first hand tell you at least 60% of my class doesn't have full time employment. This is in a state with only 2 pharm schools. You believe there is a job waiting for you at the end of your 3/4 years but fail to realize everyone thinks that, whether they work at CVS and know their DM, an independent and know the owner, or at a hospital and know the director. There will be no jobs waiting for you.
I think the job market four years ago sucked, the OP might have been a little naive then - we all were at that age - but it has only gotten worse and there is no reason to think it will get any better. I have hired people over the past 9 years. I really started to see it turn about 5-6 years ago. I knew things were going to get bad when we opened up a position after not hiring for over a year (no one had left) - we received 80 applications in the first 72 hours - that was 5 years ago. No- I can't even tell you how many we get because HR screens most of them away (no hospital experience you don't make it past the initial HR screen), and we still get 40-60 for every position.
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I saw the SDN posts 4 years ago and my manager and DM at Walmart brushed everyone off here. They said SDN was a bunch of doomsdayers. I drank the Kool-Aid too. I didn't say I made the right decision. I see your postings here, and while well grounded, I feel as if you think you're immune to this just like the other mod who hasn't completed pharmacy school yet. The both of you think you have these amazing traits and connections, just like I did. But if you think you're immune to it too, you are a fool. Just like I am.
it okay, I got in around 2011. Grad at 15. I saw the doom and gloom and they were right. I had good connections but burn off bridges. The market and the job isn't good. I almost went mad with 2 months off of work because I listen to my friend who told me to quit my job and travel the world
Petroleum engineers make a lot of money when gas prices are high but usually there are a lot of layoffs when gas prices go down. I think few years down the road, most vehicles will be all electric so i wouldnt bet on the jobs being there.
I said earlier it's why petroleum engineers are hard to train but if it doesn't pay good. You can have oil like Venezuela and no means of extracting it. They will go to other countries
If I started a thread called “Yes, I chose [to doom and gloom about] pharmacy,” will you leave that thread be in the pre-pharm forum or move it to the job market subforum?
Neither. Think of it as the antithesis to the leading post of this thread’s OP.
Yes I am.
Are you seriously telling me people that joined the profession 4 years ago were not naive? Lol come on now
Let’s even take it further than that. It has only been declining and getting tighter and tighter. Every year something more dramatic takes a hit to the profession. People entering pharmacy 4 years ago were still called naive.
By all means though, go to the “hidden forum” and list all the changes that took place the past 4 years. I’ll let you know if you missed something
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That is the scary thing though. Pre pharm students are doing their research and are well aware of the situation. But they get advice from pre pharm youtubers telling everyone to ignore your pharmacists and anyone else that tells you that the saturation is not going to treat you well. You really can't change these people's minds because they would rather be in denial.
For some people it only takes 10 minutes in the pharmacy to realize the career is not for them, lmao
