Lake Erie (LECOM) Discussion Thread 2012 - 2013

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Does anyone have any insight as to how they select people for admission or what they are looking for in interviews. I assume interviews are granted soley off of MCAT and GPA. I'm not sure what information they try to extract in the group interview either. To me it seems like they just make sure you aren't too odd and then look at your entire file to decide on admit or reject. Does anyone have any information or agree/disagree?

LECOM respects all you have probably heard about Osteopathic schools. They look at your grades, MCAT, experiences, but from all those they 'kinda' figure out an image of who you are and i strongly believe that they look for individuals with perseverance, maturity, empathic and sociable personalities. This is the reason why during the group interviews, they barely ask about why osteopathic, medicine, experiences... They already have all of that. However, the mistake a lot of people make is to assume that the questions they ask during the interview do not relate to the basics. For example, if they ask you: " where do you see yourself in 15 years?" A big part of that question includes, "who are you, Where does medicine fit in your life,How do you envision yourself practicing (i,e; osteopathic)". The key is to answer questions as they are asked but never forget they still want to know 'why medicine' and they also want to confirm that they 'image' they painted of you from your application is the one that comes to the interview.

Lol, i know this is a long answer, but hey, if it helps someone out there, why not.

LECOM class of 2017!!!
 
It really does seem like a good way of interviewing. As you said, they already have all your list of experiences as well as your personal statement in front of you which they've already read. I don't think going into an interview and restating the things you've already stated in your application does much. It's good for them to see people interacting in groups with others, to hear the voices and see the personalities. That is a good way to get the "personal" side of an applicant. I'd much prefer this format than being grilled on "Why did you take Organic Chemistry twice?" or "What's with the low MCAT score?" style of interview. Just my opinion
 
It really does seem like a good way of interviewing. As you said, they already have all your list of experiences as well as your personal statement in front of you which they've already read. I don't think going into an interview and restating the things you've already stated in your application does much. It's good for them to see people interacting in groups with others, to hear the voices and see the personalities. That is a good way to get the "personal" side of an applicant. I'd much prefer this format than being grilled on "Why did you take Organic Chemistry twice?" or "What's with the low MCAT score?" style of interview. Just my opinion

I was interviewed like that at my home state school, and it was awful. I felt the whole time they got nothing out of me that wasn't already written on paper. If the reason I dropped o-chem lab one semester makes or breaks my acceptance into med school I don't even see the point of interviewing someone.
 
It really does seem like a good way of interviewing. As you said, they already have all your list of experiences as well as your personal statement in front of you which they've already read. I don't think going into an interview and restating the things you've already stated in your application does much. It's good for them to see people interacting in groups with others, to hear the voices and see the personalities. That is a good way to get the "personal" side of an applicant. I'd much prefer this format than being grilled on "Why did you take Organic Chemistry twice?" or "What's with the low MCAT score?" style of interview. Just my opinion

I was interviewed like that at my home state school, and it was awful. I felt the whole time they got nothing out of me that wasn't already written on paper. If the reason I dropped o-chem lab one semester makes or breaks my acceptance into med school I don't even see the point of interviewing someone.

You guys realize that the "grilling" is an opportunity for you to address those flaws in your application right? Unless you were a lazy slob and failed Ochem because you were too lazy to show up for class, whatever reason you give shows a personal side of you (hardship, etc.) and you have the opportunity to show the interviewer how you addressed the problem that caused you to fail the class.

I think for me and most people who prefer one-on-one interviews is because you are the focus of the interview. I am guessing LECOM has group interviews due to the sheer number of applicants they interview and the number of seats available. I think it's close to 300 seats if you include Seton Hill. Are there any other schools that do group interviews?
 
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You guys realize that the "grilling" is an opportunity for you to address those flaws in your application right? Unless you were a lazy slob and failed Ochem because you were too lazy to show up for class, whatever reason you give shows a personal side of you (hardship, etc.) and you have the opportunity to show the interviewer how you addressed the problem that caused you to fail the class.

I think for me and most people who prefer one-on-one interviews is because you are the focus of the interview. I am guessing LECOM has group interviews due to the sheer number of applicants they interview and the number of seats available. I think it's close to 300 seats if you include Seton Hill. Are there any other schools that do group interviews?

Yes....I can definitely see that side of it, too, for those who have some "splainin' to do" about courses or whatever. I'm sure the big glass size has something to do with the interview style, too. I guess for my own personal taste I prefer the group interview like LECOM. I honestly have no idea if any other schools do the group interview. Anybody else know about this?
 
anyone here interviewing 2-21 with me?
 
also, for those of you who have interviewed here i have a question: if they ask something interesting thats not on my file what is an appropiate response? I have a good, funny childhood story that is very appropiate but dont know if they are looking for something more serious or if that would be good with a laid back interview.
 
You guys realize that the "grilling" is an opportunity for you to address those flaws in your application right? Unless you were a lazy slob and failed Ochem because you were too lazy to show up for class, whatever reason you give shows a personal side of you (hardship, etc.) and you have the opportunity to show the interviewer how you addressed the problem that caused you to fail the class.

I think for me and most people who prefer one-on-one interviews is because you are the focus of the interview. I am guessing LECOM has group interviews due to the sheer number of applicants they interview and the number of seats available. I think it's close to 300 seats if you include Seton Hill. Are there any other schools that do group interviews?

of course I realize why they do it, I'm just saying that I didn't enjoy that interview, while I actually had "fun" (as much as you can) in the LECOM interview.
 
Hello everyone! Need some advice. Its been literally 4 months since my supplemental application has been submitted and I have heard literally NOTHING from LECOM. I need to know what to do and if anyone has any clues on what may be going on?? Thanks!
 
Hello everyone! Need some advice. Its been literally 4 months since my supplemental application has been submitted and I have heard literally NOTHING from LECOM. I need to know what to do and if anyone has any clues on what may be going on?? Thanks!

Same. Over 6 months for me. I tried emailing them updates and never got responses either (sent to multiple emails). Who even knows at this point.

But to be fair my friend was complete for 7 months last year, got an II and was accepted right off the bat in April. So that shows there's still hope, right?
 
I guess so, but at the same time it would be nice to know what is going on. I've heard back from other schools but not them
 
Interviewed on 2/1/13 and got the acceptance letter today.
Cum gpa 3.64 science gpa 3.47 mcat 28Q. I got a 21O the first time I took the mcat and applied late in October. So don't lose hope if you bomb the first time like me.
 
I guess so, but at the same time it would be nice to know what is going on. I've heard back from other schools but not them

Oh I completely agree. I sent all of my DO apps in back in the summer and LECOM-Erie is the only one that hasn't sent me ANYTHING. 😴
 
They say they don't but from what I can tell they seem to not really follow the rolling system for handing out interviews.
 
Is anyone interviewing on Feb 22? I am from California and I have no clue what the weather is going to be like and what kind of winter clothing I should bring with me. People who have interviewed recently- if you have any advice/suggestions that would be great! Thanks!
 
Trumpet - I'm very sorry to learn of your rejection after interview. That had to be tough. As you said, though, you are young and have many years ahead to make this dream happen for you. Take your time to be angry and sad, but don't let this rejection damage your spirit. By your GPA you are certainly more than capable of doing the rigorous coursework demanded in medical school. Perhaps you can retake the MCAT for a higher score? Meanwhile, realize that career is only one component of life and take the time to realize the other good things you have. Hey...have you thought of applying to the post-bach program? I wish you the best of luck in whatever you decide to do.
 
Is anyone interviewing on Feb 22? I am from California and I have no clue what the weather is going to be like and what kind of winter clothing I should bring with me. People who have interviewed recently- if you have any advice/suggestions that would be great! Thanks!

Erie is one of the coldest and snowiest areas in the country, especially in February. You Californians may not even own the heavy, down coats, hats, scarves, gloves and boots you will need. Even if there's not a snow storm or blizzard predicted, there's always a little lake effect snow blowing around. There have been some really cold days (like today). I would check weather.com to see what the temperature highs and lows will be for the days you'll be in Erie. And best of luck to you on your interview, too!
 
I'm sorry to hear that it didn't work out for you. It seems this is your first year applying, and it takes many many people (myself included) to get in. It's hard to look at what happened to you and say "this is the way it is" because I think many schools take the whole person into consideration. For example, during the pre-interview presentation, they said a lot about the fact that the science GPA is the best indicator for how well someone will do in medical school, and they weigh that heavily. So you have a 3.9+ sGPA and I have a 3.0. I had a 28 MCAT though, while yours was a 24. Opposite of what they said. I feel that maybe what you said may have come off differently than you felt, and it might have made a difference. At 21, how many full time jobs have you applied for? One never knows how an interview goes, no matter what they tell you, until you receive the job offer. I've totally had interviews where I felt everything went great, of course I'll get the job! nope.

What I'm saying is, your GPA is amazing and that's like most of the battle. It'll make a HUGE difference down the line for you. Now just raise your MCAT score, possibly work on your interviewing, and you'll be in somewhere next year.
 
Interviewed on 2/1/13 and got the acceptance letter today.
Cum gpa 3.64 science gpa 3.47 mcat 28Q. I got a 21O the first time I took the mcat and applied late in October. So don't lose hope if you bomb the first time like me.



Hello, how did your acceptance letter come? Mail, email, or portal? I have been checking each like crazy but I interviewed a week after you.
 
Mail. It is a regular size letter with 6 pieces of paper in it. I would expect it sometime this week.
 
Just update for all of you; would have updated but didn't feel it was urgent. The rejection was confirmed as a rejection. I'll be working and retaking the mcat this next cycle and try again.

My impression is the interview counts for very little, unless you royally pop up as a red flag. Given any weight, it would have been an easy acceptance. When your hand is shook on a job site and you are looked in the eye that you performed like one of the best they've encountered; you know it means something and will follow you. Given that, I expected it to carry more weight than my so so MCAT, and demonstrate the picture painted.

Case and point in the interview where I gave an honest reply without trash talking anyone that was just hoping off of the fence was "Why D.O."? Would you be a different person with a D.O or M.D. by your name? Without either status, are you now a less caring person? No, many of your parents are M.D. and care infinitely about the people they care for. Why everyone talks about medicine in their family, with traditional M.D.s in them and yet have the audacity to say they don't care as much because they are not a D.O is insulting. The fact there was an M.D. and Phd in the very room spoke to that regard.

This was the moment the clouds parted from the sky in the interview and it honestly interrupted everything as the two interviewers stepped in and reiterated what I said while looking at everyone for trying to cater to saying such buzzwords of "I wanna be a D.O. because I care more." They hear that everyday, every interview, and it must make them sick to see such people show little backbone to acknowledge it in the one chance they get.

Another thing, if you get asked about something about stopping smoking or health care. Take a step back and realize the United States isn't like the third world where people can lack access to what we have here. Everyone is "aware" about breast cancer, and where I live-smoking starts in college if it hasn't yet. Many start chewing at the age of 2 by their Dads giving it to them.

That white washy response of "making people aware" is garbage. You think people are dumb? They aren't dumb enough to not know ordering pizza hut everyday will kill them when they have complicated type two diabetes. They just do not care. It sucks, I know. Some will never care, and you cannot make them. I've had friends in grade school that turned their back on our friendship after their parents had a heart attack/stroke under my parents' care when warned every visit and brushed it off vas nothing. The one even tried to sue my father and was laughed at by legal counsel when they looked at the medical records demonstrating a constant warning that he was at high risk unless he changed his diet/lifestyle immediately. You hear this for years and you question you had a stroke and try to sue? That isn't being unaware, that is the common case of not giving a flying.... yeah. I didn't mention the more vulgar things of course. Only the short fact that "awareness" isn't the issue it is portrayed as.

Granted I said my thoughts far more politely than above, and more thought out. You'll have to forgive me as I'm right off a shift. It just irritated me that everyone in the group interviews were so nervous of what they think the interviewers wanted to hear instead of trying to hide and be gutless... hoping later on their stats somehow made up for a spine.

I'll say it like I said about the ability to care as a D.O/M.D. during my interview. The potential is always within the person no matter what title or lack there of is assigned them, and that potential proves yourself in life.


Now...

My Stats if anyone cares:
3.92 or close to it Science GPA (I forget exactly, it was all A except A- Org I summer;B+ org 2 summer; A- biochem
4.0 non science
24 (forget letter for essays) MCAT.

Typical average research/EC; nothing to change the world, but not a selfish case either.

I still continue to doubt the contribution the interview has unless it is to black mark you. I'm not bitter, but I'm honest with myself when I can just a positive reaction of those supposedly suppose to warrant an interview. If it was a job interview, I would have been hired later that day when you can get people to break out of character that much and almost make it obvious you impressed them more than the people that sat on the fence the entire time.

What I can tell you is, I was rejected before my D.O letter arrived; so that I can tell doesn't pull much weight at all if any. Clearly the interview must not either as again, straight rejection, not wait listed even near the bottom. Going into "rural family practice" isn't a magic bullet either. That is my goal, to return to this area until I retire. I'll die with debt likely due to no one being able to really afford proper care and you make maybe half at best what a family practice doctor would normally make. That doesn't bother either. It doesn't bother me many will try to sue me or take a swing at me for telling them what they need to hear; I've grown up here, don't accept most of the thought processes, but the diabetic problem is so severe that without a doctor in the area, people will go until amputations occur. I have the passion, intellect, drive, and remain the only one with the desire to practice here after my mom retires. Its more than a calling to me, as I have many more easier lucrative choices in life. It isn't about the easy way, the richer way, the simple way-this is the only way.

As to why Lecom? Its 3 hours away and way more focused in areas other than research than Pitt (sad since 30 years ago it really was a quality place even for family medicine...now it is snubbed ...very sad.) Lecom has a 3 year primary care path, and it just fit. So I'll try again, since I'm young at the age of 21. I have about 7 more years worth of buffer before I really start to worry lol.

Time for bed, I sound crankier than I am. I just tend to be punctual when I type.

P.S. Erie is cold to anyone that cannot be bothered to look up the weather on weather.com . Bring layers if it bothers you, and perhaps a wind breaker and umbrella if it is coming down slushy.

It might not be that complicated. When I was there I thought I heard Jamie Murphy say that you need a minimum MCAT score of a 25 to be accepted. That would explain why you were rejected before your DO letter was in.
 
Anyone interviewing 2-21?
 
It might not be that complicated. When I was there I thought I heard Jamie Murphy say that you need a minimum MCAT score of a 25 to be accepted. That would explain why you were rejected before your DO letter was in.

I just don't understand why they would go to the trouble of granting someone an interview if the MCAT wasn't going to qualify them anyway. Why get their hopes up and all of that? I guess the process is somewhat of a mystery.
 
Is anyone interviewing on Feb 22? I am from California and I have no clue what the weather is going to be like and what kind of winter clothing I should bring with me. People who have interviewed recently- if you have any advice/suggestions that would be great! Thanks!

It will be really cold. Below freezing, and even colder with wind and lake effect snow. Inside it will be warm though. Bring something really warm that you can easily take off and hang up.

I'm sorry to hear that it didn't work out for you. It seems this is your first year applying, and it takes many many people (myself included) to get in. It's hard to look at what happened to you and say "this is the way it is" because I think many schools take the whole person into consideration. For example, during the pre-interview presentation, they said a lot about the fact that the science GPA is the best indicator for how well someone will do in medical school, and they weigh that heavily. So you have a 3.9+ sGPA and I have a 3.0. I had a 28 MCAT though, while yours was a 24. Opposite of what they said. I feel that maybe what you said may have come off differently than you felt, and it might have made a difference. At 21, how many full time jobs have you applied for? One never knows how an interview goes, no matter what they tell you, until you receive the job offer. I've totally had interviews where I felt everything went great, of course I'll get the job! nope.

What I'm saying is, your GPA is amazing and that's like most of the battle. It'll make a HUGE difference down the line for you. Now just raise your MCAT score, possibly work on your interviewing, and you'll be in somewhere next year.

Each school weighs things differently. The only sure thing is that both GPA and MCAT means a lot. Its hard to use GPA as a metric because it varies significantly based on the applicants institution. Its much easier to get good grades at some schools than others. In that regard, MCAT is a much more equitable metric. That being said, neither really says anything about how good a physician anyone will be. Ultimately though, this person has good stats and will get in somewhere if they persevere.

Its hard to say exactly how the interview went or what the interviewers really thought. Just reading this guy's post, he comes off a bit arrogant and disrespectful of others/his peers (the spineless comment comes to mind), but maybe this is more just the result of bitterness regarding his current situation. In any case anyone who has been in the job market lately knows that nothing is a sure thing. The best you can tell from an interview is that you did your best to put your best foot forward. I've been to a ton of job interviews that went very well and the interviewers would say things like, "you should be hearing good news from us very soon" or "your exactly the type of applicant we are looking for," only to hear nothing or get the "we've decided to go another way"/"we've decided to hire from within." It's the nature of the beast. Competition is fearce, and disappointment is a frequent and common part of life. That being said, everyone should be glad to get an interview, regardless of the outcome (I know I am) at least thats a bit closer to the goal.
 
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I just don't understand why they would go to the trouble of granting someone an interview if the MCAT wasn't going to qualify them anyway. Why get their hopes up and all of that? I guess the process is somewhat of a mystery.

They gave interviews to people who didn't even have an mcat score in yet. Probably to give you time to retake if you need to during the cycle
 
Interviewed on 02/07 and just received my acceptance today! Good luck to everyone. 🙂
 
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Interviewed on 02/07 and just received my acceptance today! Placed in my first choice for PBL at Erie. Good luck to everyone. 🙂

congrats! but i thought PBL @ Erie was filled up like 2-3 months ago??? I know PBL at seton hill was still open but How did you get placed into it right off the bat at Erie? I listed PBL at erie as my #1 choice and I was placed into LDP (#2 choice) back in December when I received my acceptance after interviewing in the beginning of November due to them saying PBL at erie was filled at that time?
 
congrats! but i thought PBL @ Erie was filled up like 2-3 months ago??? I know PBL at seton hill was still open but How did you get placed into it right off the bat at Erie? I listed PBL at erie as my #1 choice and I was placed into LDP (#2 choice) back in December when I received my acceptance after interviewing in the beginning of November due to them saying PBL at erie was filled at that time?
Congrats! But I had the same question... I was accepted, but was waitlisted for PBL off a 1/10 interview :/
 
I have to submit my admissions deposit ($1,500!!!) by Feb 25, 2013. According to my acceptance letter the "fee is due in the Office of Admissions by February 25, 2013".
According to post #1141 (page 23) "as long as it is postmarked by the due date, it will be fine!". Can someone please confirm this again? I don't want to loose $1,500 because I'm trying to wait from another school.
Also, I tried e-mailing Jamie Murphy (on a different issue) but he never replied so I'm not sure how good they are with communication.

Thank you in advance!
 
He/She dodged a bullet by not getting accepted into LECOM. Stats are great, should just retake the MCAT. This school is horrible nonetheless, really does not care about their students, just their reputation and egos. Had I known better, I wish I had not matriculated here.


It will be really cold. Below freezing, and even colder with wind and lake effect snow. Inside it will be warm though. Bring something really warm that you can easily take off and hang up.



Each school weighs things differently. The only sure thing is that both GPA and MCAT means a lot. Its hard to use GPA as a metric because it varies significantly based on the applicants institution. Its much easier to get good grades at some schools than others. In that regard, MCAT is a much more equitable metric. That being said, neither really says anything about how good a physician anyone will be. Ultimately though, this person has good stats and will get in somewhere if they persevere.

Its hard to say exactly how the interview went or what the interviewers really thought. Just reading this guy's post, he comes off a bit arrogant and disrespectful of others/his peers (the spineless comment comes to mind), but maybe this is more just the result of bitterness regarding his current situation. In any case anyone who has been in the job market lately knows that nothing is a sure thing. The best you can tell from an interview is that you did your best to put your best foot forward. I've been to a ton of job interviews that went very well and the interviewers would say things like, "you should be hearing good news from us very soon" or "your exactly the type of applicant we are looking for," only to hear nothing or get the "we've decided to go another way"/"we've decided to hire from within." It's the nature of the beast. Competition is fearce, and disappointment is a frequent and common part of life. That being said, everyone should be glad to get an interview, regardless of the outcome (I know I am) at least thats a bit closer to the goal.
 
He/She dodged a bullet by not getting accepted into LECOM. Stats are great, should just retake the MCAT. This school is horrible nonetheless, really does not care about their students, just their reputation and egos. Had I known better, I wish I had not matriculated here.

Wow! Can you elaborate on this? Is this sentiment prevalent among students at LECOM? I'm sorry that the school is not what you'd hoped for. It must feel disappointing after how long and hard you surely worked to get into med school. How far along are you in the program? Any chance of transferring?
 
Wow! Can you elaborate on this? Is this sentiment prevalent among students at LECOM? I'm sorry that the school is not what you'd hoped for. It must feel disappointing after how long and hard you surely worked to get into med school. How far along are you in the program? Any chance of transferring?
YesIDid is BSing. He went out of his way to create an SDN account but fails to give even a single example/scenario of his alleged ordeal at LECOM.
Here is what I think is going on: the guy is discouraging others from matriculating at this school because that will undoubtedly increase his chances of gaining admission. cut and dried. Just my 2 cents, btw 😉
 
Wow! Can you elaborate on this? Is this sentiment prevalent among students at LECOM? I'm sorry that the school is not what you'd hoped for. It must feel disappointing after how long and hard you surely worked to get into med school. How far along are you in the program? Any chance of transferring?
I'm in my first year here in Erie, in the LDP pathway, so I have no reason to ulterior motive to speak ill about LECOM, other than to give my opinion. And it is just my opinion, there are many who are happy here, and many who are not. I am one of those that is not happy being here, and it has all to do with the draconian rules and the contempt that the administration seems to have against us. For the most part, most of the administration and many professors are not approachable should you have a simple question or issue; and if they do actually give you the time, they will respond in such a condescending manner that will make you feel like nothing. At least once a month (and sometimes more), we receive emails from the head of security or others in the admin, admonishing us for the most trivial of things... snow on the car, parking, dress code; these emails are not to relay some type of important information, but literally just to reprimand us. Sylvia Ferreti has an incredible napolean complex, and walks around like she is the greatest thing has has happened to any of us and to the medical world, and like we are miscreants who should not even be breathing the same air as her.
I was excited to start medical school, and I think that I am getting an okay education here, but that's only because I make the effort, not because the school fosters any type of motivation or support. Quite the opposite, I feel like they have no respect for us and are actively trying to break us down.
And to address what the person above me wrote, I have not posted and this is a new account. Why? Because had I posted with my other account, it could have been easily deduced who I was, and I just don't want to deal with the repercussions (the administrations monitors these forums). It is also the reason why I have not given specific examples of things that have occurred with me. Like it or not, I have to be here to get to where I want to be, and I would rather stay under the radar.
 
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I'm in my first year here in Erie, in the LDP pathway, so I have no reason to ulterior motive to speak ill about LECOM, other than to give my opinion. And it is just my opinion, there are many who are happy here, and many who are not. I am one of those that is not happy being here, and it has all to do with the draconian rules and the contempt that the administration seems to have against us. For the most part, most of the administration and many professors are not approachable should you have a simple question or issue; and if they do actually give you the time, they will respond in such a condescending manner that will make you feel like nothing. At least once a month (and sometimes more), we receive emails from the head of security or others in the admin, admonishing us for the most trivial of things... snow on the car, parking, dress code; these emails are not to relay some type of important information, but literally just to reprimand us. Sylvia Ferreti has an incredible napolean complex, and walks around like she is the greatest thing has has happened to any of us and to the medical world, and like we are miscreants who should not even be breathing the same air as her.
I was excited to start medical school, and I think that I am getting an okay education here, but that's only because I make the effort, not because the school fosters any type of motivation or support. Quite the opposite, I feel like they have no respect for us and are actively trying to break us down.
And to address what the person above me wrote, I have not posted and this is a new account. Why? Because had I posted with my other account, it could have been easily deduced who I was, and I just don't want to deal with the repercussions (the administrations monitors these forums). It is also the reason why I have not given specific examples of things that have occurred with me. Like it or not, I have to be here to get to where I want to be, and I would rather stay under the radar.
Ok, fair enough. But I think most people are aware of their tough rules (dress code, no food/drink outside of cafeteria, etc) before they matriculate. But r u sure u cant even give one example from ur experience (or someone u know) w/o incriminating urself in some way?
 
I'm in my first year here in Erie, in the LDP pathway, so I have no reason to ulterior motive to speak ill about LECOM, other than to give my opinion. And it is just my opinion, there are many who are happy here, and many who are not. I am one of those that is not happy being here, and it has all to do with the draconian rules and the contempt that the administration seems to have against us. For the most part, most of the administration and many professors are not approachable should you have a simple question or issue; and if they do actually give you the time, they will respond in such a condescending manner that will make you feel like nothing. At least once a month (and sometimes more), we receive emails from the head of security or others in the admin, admonishing us for the most trivial of things... snow on the car, parking, dress code; these emails are not to relay some type of important information, but literally just to reprimand us. Sylvia Ferreti has an incredible napolean complex, and walks around like she is the greatest thing has has happened to any of us and to the medical world, and like we are miscreants who should not even be breathing the same air as her.
I was excited to start medical school, and I think that I am getting an okay education here, but that's only because I make the effort, not because the school fosters any type of motivation or support. Quite the opposite, I feel like they have no respect for us and are actively trying to break us down.
And to address what the person above me wrote, I have not posted and this is a new account. Why? Because had I posted with my other account, it could have been easily deduced who I was, and I just don't want to deal with the repercussions (the administrations monitors these forums). It is also the reason why I have not given specific examples of things that have occurred with me. Like it or not, I have to be here to get to where I want to be, and I would rather stay under the radar.

I know many people that go to LECOM and completely agree with everything this post says. I have heard it time and time again. I'm sure there are people who enjoy their time in Erie obviously, but I highly doubt this person is trolling. In fact, I think this is an extremely truthful post.
 
Ok, fair enough. But I think most people are aware of their tough rules (dress code, no food/drink outside of cafeteria, etc) before they matriculate. But r u sure u cant even give one example from ur experience (or someone u know) w/o incriminating urself in some way?
I will give you an example on our exams. We are able to challenge questions after the exam, and sometimes, the same questions are challenged by many in the class. You would think that with so many people challenging a question that the professor would address the issue, explain to us why the question is worded as is, and what the correct answer is. Nope, rarely happens. And the few times that a professor has addressed some question, it is not even to explain to us why, but to tell us that yes, the question may not have been clear, but we should have been able to come up with the correct answer anyways. No explanation further than that, and this is in reference to questions that most of the class got wrong. So it is our fault that the professor was not able to write a clear and concise question, and that the majority of us were not able to read between the lines and deduce what it was that he/she was trying to ask us. When some complained about the vagueness in the professor's response, they received direct emails from higher ups, telling them once again that they were wrong, and had no bearings to complain. We are all here to learn, and it is important to learn from our mistakes, and I have a problem with professors that that won't even take the time to explain something that may be confusing, and rather speak to us in a belittling fashion; and it is very frustrating when the administration not only condones, but appears to encourage that behavior.
What I have written is not to give everyone the impression that all of the professors are like that. Some are very open, and while they might not address the challenge questions to the class as a whole, you can approach them after class.
Ultimately, you will get a medical education here, and you will become a doctor, it just might not be the happiest time. You have to dedicate yourself , make the effort, and ignore all the negatives. It can be hard sometimes, but it's the means to an end
 
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YesIdid - Thank you for going out on a limb to let us know your perspective on LECOM. I wish you (and others) weren't so miserable there. If this has been brought up time and time again, I don't understand why it persists. I wonder if other medical schools are the same and if this is just "par for the course" or if LECOM is especially unkind to students. I can imagine it would be hard to buckle down and just do the work when you feel all the oppression all the time. I have had my heart set on going to LECOM for a couple of years now, so it's a bit unsettling to say the least. I'd love to hear more from other current students if they wouldn't mind chiming in on this discussion. In the meanwhile, keep your chin up and do your best. This too shall pass, and you will be a doctor.
 
YesIdid - Thank you for going out on a limb to let us know your perspective on LECOM. I wish you (and others) weren't so miserable there. If this has been brought up time and time again, I don't understand why it persists. I wonder if other medical schools are the same and if this is just "par for the course" or if LECOM is especially unkind to students. I can imagine it would be hard to buckle down and just do the work when you feel all the oppression all the time. I have had my heart set on going to LECOM for a couple of years now, so it's a bit unsettling to say the least. I'd love to hear more from other current students if they wouldn't mind chiming in on this discussion. In the meanwhile, keep your chin up and do your best. This too shall pass, and you will be a doctor.
I don't want to discourage anyone. This is my individual experience. Just as I am not happy here, there are others that are very happy. Who knows what the experience will be for you and for others at LECOM in the future. Ultimately, my success depends only on me, and even though I may not have had the greatest experience thus far, LECOM is doing what it is meant to... preparing me to be a doctor.
Continue to strive to go to LECOM, if that is what you have been dreaming of. Just get as much perspective as possible, both positive and negative, so that your decision is an informed one.
Good luck.
 
While I think it is helpful that current students come and share their experiences, I believe everyone should take it with a grain of salt. There are problems with each and every medical school in this country, and there are always unhappy students for one reason or another. My boyfriend goes to a great MD state school and completely resents the administration because they are threatening to kick his friend out of school over something that no one should even be reprimanded for, much less threatened to be kicked out during their third year. The way the admins are handling the situation is completely unprofessional, but the students aren't coming on SDN to share their one off experience. I've read a lot of forum threads about LECOM (the DON'T GO HERE!!! threads in particular), and sometime I feel students who aren't happy with certain things may not have much outside of school experience. For example, I work in a research lab where we are always watched on camera, where we have a dress code, where we can't eat or drink in the lab because it's a lab, where we have to badge in to every single room, and where our emails are more than likely monitored because they are work emails. That's just how the job is, and so transitioning to a school that has similar rules isn't a big deal. The exam practices and the fact that teachers seem to be stand-offish is definitely something that is worth not being happy about, I hope that it is something that will improve, or be a one time kind of situation. In the end a lot of that comes down to personal relationships, or how people act. Is it great for the school? Probably not, but that's how the world turns.

Really in the end, when you graduate from this school you'll be a doctor and I think that's really what matters to me. The four years of medical school won't be the end-all to my life. I hope to make the best of my time in Erie. I'm sure there will be things I'm not thrilled about but once I have that doctor title, I don't think it'll matter.
 
Current students, does LECOM give you a stethoscope? If so, what kind and when do they give it to you?
 
While I think it is helpful that current students come and share their experiences, I believe everyone should take it with a grain of salt. There are problems with each and every medical school in this country, and there are always unhappy students for one reason or another. My boyfriend goes to a great MD state school and completely resents the administration because they are threatening to kick his friend out of school over something that no one should even be reprimanded for, much less threatened to be kicked out during their third year. The way the admins are handling the situation is completely unprofessional, but the students aren't coming on SDN to share their one off experience. I've read a lot of forum threads about LECOM (the DON'T GO HERE!!! threads in particular), and sometime I feel students who aren't happy with certain things may not have much outside of school experience. For example, I work in a research lab where we are always watched on camera, where we have a dress code, where we can't eat or drink in the lab because it's a lab, where we have to badge in to every single room, and where our emails are more than likely monitored because they are work emails. That's just how the job is, and so transitioning to a school that has similar rules isn't a big deal. The exam practices and the fact that teachers seem to be stand-offish is definitely something that is worth not being happy about, I hope that it is something that will improve, or be a one time kind of situation. In the end a lot of that comes down to personal relationships, or how people act. Is it great for the school? Probably not, but that's how the world turns.

Really in the end, when you graduate from this school you'll be a doctor and I think that's really what matters to me. The four years of medical school won't be the end-all to my life. I hope to make the best of my time in Erie. I'm sure there will be things I'm not thrilled about but once I have that doctor title, I don't think it'll matter.

I like your no-nonsense approach. I guess that we work so hard to get into med school that we want it to be such a great experience. But like you said, there are personalities involved. I also think that improving morale has to do with everyone who is there. If a prof or admin person is snotty to students, that will in turn influence how students interact with other profs, admins and one another. Maybe part of improving morale at Erie is for students to make it a point to be courteous in the hope that others will do the same in return. I feel bad for people who are unhappy there, though. It's probably a hard cycle to break out of once it starts. And I'm sure it's not the fault of the students. It really is the job of the higher ups to set the tone, and it's too bad that they haven't done a better job of it. However, I am still interested in LECOM for a variety of reason: tuition, location, excellent education, etc. I will try, if and when I get there, to do my small part in trying to improve the morale. I'm sure that the people who run the place aren't bad people; they've probably just gotten into a way of going that doesn't sit well with many students. I guess we'll just try to let the little things go "unnoticed" and pick our battles for the important things, right?
 
Current students, does LECOM give you a stethoscope? If so, what kind and when do they give it to you?

If it hasn't changed in the last couple years, they so give it to u and its during the white coat ceremony in the winter.
 
Hello all,

New to posting on the forum, but I've been reading for awhile. Congrats to everyone who has been accepted so far!

I have an interview coming up in a few weeks. Is it too late to be accepted in PCSP? Any tips, advice, or thoughts?

Good luck to all who are still in the process!
 
for anyone who interviewed last thursday, have you noticed a change in your portal? like in the letters section?

I interviewed nearly 3 weeks ago and no letter, nor no changes in portal...

Dr. Moore told us that the committee would decide that following Wed (if app comlete) and mail letters Thurs/Fri. I know some have posted on here that the admissions office has had to "resend" decision letters. I guess I'll start the uphill battle of getting the admissions office to answer a phone and find out what's happening... They should raise tuition by just enough to hire more admissions staff.
 
No prob! Littman Cardio 3 - You don't get to choose your color though.

Wish I would have read that before my parents ordered me a Cardio 3, but I guess they probably won't give me the smoke edition with my name on it
 
is your portal complete? like there aren't any Xs in the required letters section?
 
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