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Were you rejected by all 4? Regardless I think you just had bad luck. Reapply!
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Were you rejected by all 4? Regardless I think you just had bad luck. Reapply!
Chillax. They're wait lists, not rejections. If anything you're probably just too much of a pessimist.
Just need to vent.
Received yet another alternate list email this morning. I wasn't supposed to hear back from the school for another three weeks, but apparently, I'm so terrible a candidate they can't wait to be done reviewing my app. I've tried doing everything right this cycle- applying early, broadly, not too top heavy, doing many mock interviews--but it's just not enough. I must be so socially inept that I'm ruining all these interviews, because I don't know what more I can do. Even the lowest tier MD schools won't take me, and the only reason I was accepted into the DO school, I'm pretty sure, is because my numbers were significantly above their averages.
My family is suffering as well. I won't go into details, but they invested very heavily in my education, and were expecting me to keep up my end of the bargain, and get into a top tier school. I did very well in high school, graduated first in my class, and two of my relatives were in a BS/MD program. Not only did I not do so great in college, but I failed to get into med school the first time around by making stupid mistakes--applying late, mediocre MCAT, etc. I was not 100% committed to med school, and it showed. When I did realize that I loved medicine, it was too late. Now, every day, my parents remind me of the mistakes I made and how much they are going to cost me, what I could have done, and how disappointed they are in me. Everything that's happened to me is really my fault, I'm would never blame anyone else.
Honestly, right now I feel absolutely worthless. Why? Because I have finally come face to face with reality; it's not that I am not intelligent enough to accomplish something, but I am lazy and unmotivated. People struggle to get the resources I have been hand-given; essentially, I have been given gold and turned it to dust. I worked as little as possible, and my application shows that. My interviewers must have recognized this, and that's why I haven't been accepted anywhere.
I'm seriously considering withdrawing from the school I was accepted at, I worry I lack the drive to succeed, and will never match. I have wasted so much time for so long, that I don't know how to become ambitious and hard-working again. Please, any pre-meds reading this, don't make the same mistakes that I did.
I think I'm done posting in the forums. Good luck to everyone out there!
Just need to vent.
Received yet another alternate list email this morning. I wasn't supposed to hear back from the school for another three weeks, but apparently, I'm so terrible a candidate they can't wait to be done reviewing my app. I've tried doing everything right this cycle- applying early, broadly, not too top heavy, doing many mock interviews--but it's just not enough. I must be so socially inept that I'm ruining all these interviews, because I don't know what more I can do. Even the lowest tier MD schools won't take me, and the only reason I was accepted into the DO school, I'm pretty sure, is because my numbers were significantly above their averages.
My family is suffering as well. I won't go into details, but they invested very heavily in my education, and were expecting me to keep up my end of the bargain, and get into a top tier school. I did very well in high school, graduated first in my class, and two of my relatives were in a BS/MD program. Not only did I not do so great in college, but I failed to get into med school the first time around by making stupid mistakes--applying late, mediocre MCAT, etc. I was not 100% committed to med school, and it showed. When I did realize that I loved medicine, it was too late. Now, every day, my parents remind me of the mistakes I made and how much they are going to cost me, what I could have done, and how disappointed they are in me. Everything that's happened to me is really my fault, I'm would never blame anyone else.
Honestly, right now I feel absolutely worthless. Why? Because I have finally come face to face with reality; it's not that I am not intelligent enough to accomplish something, but I am lazy and unmotivated. People struggle to get the resources I have been hand-given; essentially, I have been given gold and turned it to dust. I worked as little as possible, and my application shows that. My interviewers must have recognized this, and that's why I haven't been accepted anywhere.
I'm seriously considering withdrawing from the school I was accepted at, I worry I lack the drive to succeed, and will never match. I have wasted so much time for so long, that I don't know how to become ambitious and hard-working again. Please, any pre-meds reading this, don't make the same mistakes that I did.
I think I'm done posting in the forums. Good luck to everyone out there!
Dear Icck, your name pretty much embodies how I feel about your entirely unhelpful comment.
You're not worthless, at all. This is a demoralizing process and a lot of truly deserving people get overlooked. Maybe you feel "lazy and unmotivated" because you didn't seize every single opportunity to better your application in the eyes of an adcom, but you have to remember that (1) there's more to life than how you look on a med school application, and (2) you're comparing yourself to a teeny tiny population of people, most of whom have extrahuman work ethic, and many of whom have sacrificed things that you may not be willing to sacrifice just to get in to med school. That being said, you have been accepted to a med school, and I believe there's a great chance you'll be accepted off a few waitlists. If you really want to be a doctor, the door is open, and there are a lot of people reading this thread who can't say that yet. In all fairness, it looks like you were dealt a really crappy hand in the admissions game, and I feel for you. But if you truly love medicine, you're only punishing yourself if you withdraw in protest.
About your parents -- that sucks. Might I suggest getting back at them by enrolling in your accepted school, kicking major booty, and landing a really impressive match?
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SilverCat, get the f### out of my head! Stop writing my thoughts for all to see! 🙂Just need to vent.
Meh, plan to reapply, but hang in there. Odds are you will get it. I'm in the same boat and I think I'm going to reapply right away. I increased my clinical experience a lot (I had very little before) and by the end of summer I should have 3-4 publications to finally legitimize the 5 years of research I have done. You should reapply.
Just need to vent.
Received yet another alternate list email this morning. I wasn't supposed to hear back from the school for another three weeks, but apparently, I'm so terrible a candidate they can't wait to be done reviewing my app. I've tried doing everything right this cycle- applying early, broadly, not too top heavy, doing many mock interviews--but it's just not enough. I must be so socially inept that I'm ruining all these interviews, because I don't know what more I can do. Even the lowest tier MD schools won't take me, and the only reason I was accepted into the DO school, I'm pretty sure, is because my numbers were significantly above their averages.
My family is suffering as well. I won't go into details, but they invested very heavily in my education, and were expecting me to keep up my end of the bargain, and get into a top tier school. I did very well in high school, graduated first in my class, and two of my relatives were in a BS/MD program. Not only did I not do so great in college, but I failed to get into med school the first time around by making stupid mistakes--applying late, mediocre MCAT, etc. I was not 100% committed to med school, and it showed. When I did realize that I loved medicine, it was too late. Now, every day, my parents remind me of the mistakes I made and how much they are going to cost me, what I could have done, and how disappointed they are in me. Everything that's happened to me is really my fault, I'm would never blame anyone else.
Honestly, right now I feel absolutely worthless. Why? Because I have finally come face to face with reality; it's not that I am not intelligent enough to accomplish something, but I am lazy and unmotivated. People struggle to get the resources I have been hand-given; essentially, I have been given gold and turned it to dust. I worked as little as possible, and my application shows that. My interviewers must have recognized this, and that's why I haven't been accepted anywhere.
I'm seriously considering withdrawing from the school I was accepted at, I worry I lack the drive to succeed, and will never match. I have wasted so much time for so long, that I don't know how to become ambitious and hard-working again. Please, any pre-meds reading this, don't make the same mistakes that I did.
I think I'm done posting in the forums. Good luck to everyone out there!
Yeah, i'm going to. Should i get a committee letter this time around? It seems like a lot of work to do.
Applied late to 7 schools, got 2 II (feb-Mar). I thought I had an acceptance last week. I was so excited! I got the congratulatory email from the school, got two follow up emails asking me to attend this and that and could I RSVP. Then boom! The dean calls me and says they made a mistake. I was wondering why I hadn't received anything in the snail mail and why my online status hadn't changed. Well that's why! I never got in! 😱
After I told all my family and friends. Now I'm waitlisted at one, and waiting to hear back from the other.
Results: Four flat-out rejections, one silent rejection, one wait list, one ???.
My stats are 31S/3.5c/3.9s. Got the in-state connection at both schools that gave me IIs. Loads of clinical experience and volunteer hours, some leadership, but no research.
that is atrocious. i'm so sorry.. I think there should be some compensation for stuff like this - e.g. like offer an acceptance even if they didnt originally intend to, or a re-interview, or deferred or something. an apology really isn't enough.
Applied late to 7 schools, got 2 II (feb-Mar). I thought I had an acceptance last week. I was so excited! I got the congratulatory email from the school, got two follow up emails asking me to attend this and that and could I RSVP. Then boom! The dean calls me and says they made a mistake. I was wondering why I hadn't received anything in the snail mail and why my online status hadn't changed. Well that's why! I never got in! 😱
After I told all my family and friends. Now I'm waitlisted at one, and waiting to hear back from the other.
Results: Four flat-out rejections, one silent rejection, one wait list, one ???.
My stats are 31S/3.5c/3.9s. Got the in-state connection at both schools that gave me IIs. Loads of clinical experience and volunteer hours, some leadership, but no research.
Hey!!!!
I think I'm in a similar boat as you and I actually decided to reapply the next cycle (not this one). I don't have as high of an MCAT as you but I have similar research experience, a high GPA and a good MCAT. However, I had the same problem with clinical experience. I thought it would be better to perfect my app over more time and not rush it so I don't have a repeat cycle!
I hope this helps!
With your MCAT score, I think adcoms will forgive a lack of non-clinical volunteering and leadership. However, I doubt anything could make-up for meager shadowing and clinical experience. How many shadowing hours do you think you can complete before June? If you can get 100+ hours of shadowing, then I think you are set for the upcoming cycle. I wouldn't reapply until you have enough shadowing hours and clinical experience.
Why not start clinical now (aim to get at least 40 hours before applying). It won't be too bad. You can do 8 hours a week and get that by mid may.
As for schools, add more safety schools. Make sure your PS isn't bad and think about your LORs. Try to find out if one is bad and sabotaging your chances. Tailor each secondary to the school and their mission statement (which should match yours).
Being early with all those will get you multiple interviews.
I have recently started doing more clinical already, and am doing ~20 hrs/wk. My main concern is that it's too close to the up-coming cycle, not sure schools will like the clumped up shadowing/volunteering immediately before reapplying. Feel a little risky there. Thanks for the tips!
I would argue the number of hours is about 10-20% of the issue and if that's all you have it's worthless to even do it. The other 80% of it is what you write about and what you gained from the experience. If you learn a lot and have some insightful things to say it won't matter when or how you did it.
Just need to vent.
Received yet another alternate list email this morning. I wasn't supposed to hear back from the school for another three weeks, but apparently, I'm so terrible a candidate they can't wait to be done reviewing my app. I've tried doing everything right this cycle- applying early, broadly, not too top heavy, doing many mock interviews--but it's just not enough. I must be so socially inept that I'm ruining all these interviews, because I don't know what more I can do. Even the lowest tier MD schools won't take me, and the only reason I was accepted into the DO school, I'm pretty sure, is because my numbers were significantly above their averages.
My family is suffering as well. I won't go into details, but they invested very heavily in my education, and were expecting me to keep up my end of the bargain, and get into a top tier school. I did very well in high school, graduated first in my class, and two of my relatives were in a BS/MD program. Not only did I not do so great in college, but I failed to get into med school the first time around by making stupid mistakes--applying late, mediocre MCAT, etc. I was not 100% committed to med school, and it showed. When I did realize that I loved medicine, it was too late. Now, every day, my parents remind me of the mistakes I made and how much they are going to cost me, what I could have done, and how disappointed they are in me. Everything that's happened to me is really my fault, I'm would never blame anyone else.
Honestly, right now I feel absolutely worthless. Why? Because I have finally come face to face with reality; it's not that I am not intelligent enough to accomplish something, but I am lazy and unmotivated. People struggle to get the resources I have been hand-given; essentially, I have been given gold and turned it to dust. I worked as little as possible, and my application shows that. My interviewers must have recognized this, and that's why I haven't been accepted anywhere.
I'm seriously considering withdrawing from the school I was accepted at, I worry I lack the drive to succeed, and will never match. I have wasted so much time for so long, that I don't know how to become ambitious and hard-working again. Please, any pre-meds reading this, don't make the same mistakes that I did.
I think I'm done posting in the forums. Good luck to everyone out there!
WTF! You have an acceptance! STFU and matriculate!
What this guy/gal said. Gamble again if you want, but there's wisdom in the above words.
...I'm an alternate at my top pick now but in the first 10 on the list (basically a sure thing because they take the first 30 every year).
I agree. This whole process can be super hard on the ego but once you're in, you're in. This was my 3rd round applying (after getting rejected first round applying as a senior, and getting alternate status last year at my top pick school) and I'm an alternate at my top pick now but in the first 10 on the list (basically a sure thing because they take the first 30 every year).
Last year was a low point for me when I didn't get in anywhere, but I was persistant and it's paid off. You are in, don't throw it away because you're not in the right head space right at this moment. You'll get there by the fall when you start school.
Waitlisted at my top school
No acceptances
Got an II to a school I'm not all too excited about
I honestly don't mind reapplying
Not sure what to do if I end up with an acceptance to the 2nd school and rejection from the waitlist and cant reapply
It might sound crazy in my position right now but should I turn down the interview? or perhaps go to the interview and see if I like the school before withdrawing? I made several mistakes applying this cycle and I feel I can get into a much better school than this one if I reapply
Hey everyone
I applied this past year to 8 schools (7 rejections, 1 waitlist).
My GPA on my application last year was 3.55c/3.52s. After I graduate in May I will be around 3.62/3.6. 30Q on MCAT. Schools I talked to said to get more hands on experience. So I am working on my CNA licensure and have two jobs lined up at hospital (one in ER and other in telemetry). Only going to apply to 2 schools from my original list and 12 others which I believe that I am competitive at. Do you think that my jobs starting in May will show enough on my application if I submit my AMCAS in June?
So with 5 waitlists and a possible 6th one coming soon, whats the probability of acceptance at this point...
How many are IS vs OOS?
As a NY resident I am on 2 SUNY waitlists and waiting to hear back from one more SUNY. Then 2 more private NY school waitlists and 1 private OOS school waitlist. The wait is driving me mad and the thought of re-applying is just too scary to wrap my head around😱
Not sure which NY privates you're referring to, but a lot of the NY privates have very good wait list movement, so I'd say you have a pretty excellent chance. The SUNYs seem to have good movement too, so I wouldn't stress too much unless you feel that there is something specifically holding you back.As a NY resident I am on 2 SUNY waitlists and waiting to hear back from one more SUNY. Then 2 more private NY school waitlists and 1 private OOS school waitlist. The wait is driving me mad and the thought of re-applying is just too scary to wrap my head around😱
So first time posting in this thread but in short CA resident, 1 waitlist, another school which just either hasn't reviewed me from what people gather on its thread is still waiting to get back to me (or a waitlist lol), and 2 post interview decisions pending (interviewed mid march for both). Btw these are all OOS (no love from cali 🙁 )...praying for some movement but I'm already studying to retake my MCAT even though I feel crazy for considering to retake a 32 :\ but I had a weak verbal score so its the only thing I can think of improving since I'm just working in my year off and continuing to volunteer haha
Welcome. May I recommend trying to relax and avoiding SDN if at all possible while you are stressing (clearly do as I say and not as I do).
Just got rejected. One still pending, 3 post interview rejections. Fortunately the dean gave me feedback. Said there were serious concerns about my interpersonal skills because I was "too often aggressive in your approach to the conversation at the expense of listening". Meanwhile I was given the advice to take charge of the conversation. I also suck at novel social situations, have had no experience prior to this cycle interviewing, and my coach focused too much on formulating answers and not enough on how the dynamics of the interview work. I am genuinely worried that this gap in my social skills will haunt me forever, but hopefully at my SMP, I would have a chance to do mock interviews and directly target this weakness when practicing.
TL😀R I don't have the ability to pick up social cues well enough to ever become a doctor so I might as well just give up. The end.
Just got rejected. One still pending, 3 post interview rejections. Fortunately the dean gave me feedback. Said there were serious concerns about my interpersonal skills because I was "too often aggressive in your approach to the conversation at the expense of listening". Meanwhile I was given the advice before the interview (from SDN...arg!) to take charge of the conversation. I also suck at novel social situations, have had no experience prior to this cycle interviewing, and my coach focused too much on formulating answers and not enough on how the dynamics of the interview work. I am genuinely worried that this gap in my social skills will haunt me forever, but hopefully at my SMP, I would have a chance to do mock interviews and directly target this weakness when practicing now that I am aware of it.
TL;DR I don't have the ability to pick up social cues well enough to ever become a doctor so I might as well just give up. The end.
2 post interview waitlists, 1 post-interview rejection (requested feedback to find out why).. and that's it for me.
hoping I can manage to get accepted from one of the WL.. sigh.
Some things you just can't learn from a coach. Go out to bars more often, it helps your social skills a lot.![]()