2018-2019 Waitlist Support Thread

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smallscrapes said:
One of my schools just sent an email saying that they don't anticipate sending out any more waitlist acceptances, and if they did they would be sporadic throughout the summer. Just such a disappointment.
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Shammyguy3 said:
Same
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I may have been giving schools too much credit.
Perhaps they really had no strategy at all...
 
ClamShell said:
REALLY?

My ex girlfriend is accepted there but she absolutely won’t hit CTE until she has to cause she’s also on the waitlist for UCSF.
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Love knowing it! the school specific thread also has at least 2 people claiming this exact thing. It's possible they just don't know what they're talking about lol

edit: "they" being the admisssions team
 
smallscrapes said:
One of my schools just sent an email saying that they don't anticipate sending out any more waitlist acceptances, and if they did they would be sporadic throughout the summer. Just such a disappointment.
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Damn I'm sorry to hear that.
 
smallscrapes said:
Love knowing it! the school specific thread also has at least 2 people claiming this exact thing. It's possible they just don't know what they're talking about lol

edit: "they" being the admisssions team
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My heart goes out to you.
 
smallscrapes said:
Love knowing it! the school specific thread also has at least 2 people claiming this exact thing. It's possible they just don't know what they're talking about lol

edit: "they" being the admisssions team
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My heart goes out to you.
 
This thread in a nutshell...and I love it

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AlphaDoctor said:
What’s the consensus on reaffirming your interest in a school if you’ve already submitted an LOI but have no worthy updates?
@gyngyn and everyone else
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I think the consensus is it might be annoying and come off as desperate. The LOI showed your intent, and even those can be taken with a grain of salt.
 
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gyngyn said:
I'm going to go with June.
I'm guessing that this stalemate will last until then and continue until mid July.
This theory is based on the presumption that most places under-accepted (compared to historical norms).
Of course, it's also possible (though I think less likely) that their caution translated into shooting a little "lower" than usual instead of under-accepting. That would lead to much less WL movement overall.
Anyone who over-accepted with the second strategy is sweating bullets right now.
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what would your interpretation be about state schools who usually are filled before the end of interview season?
 
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Lurking on this thread trying to get an understanding of whats happening and reading websites. I have just ended up really confused and don't know whether to be hopeful for more movement or kick the can. IMO, I think it comes down to each school handling it their way and just because some schools might still have a large wave of movement coming up, the school we're hoping for might be done but we don' know that.
 
ReturnToMed said:
what would your interpretation be about state schools who usually are filled before the end of interview season?
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Most smaller states with a single public school have far fewer variables to account for. Even they accept more than the total number of seats by the end of interview season.
They could probably do whatever they usually do and be just fine this cycle.
 
gyngyn said:
Most smaller states with a single public school have far fewer variables to account for. Even they accept more than the total number of seats by the end of interview season.
They could probably do whatever they usually do and be just fine this cycle.
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So New York and California would probably have different circumstances?
 
gyngyn said:
Most smaller states with a single public school have far fewer variables to account for. Even they accept more than the total number of seats by the end of interview season.
They could probably do whatever they usually do and be just fine this cycle.
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Would you then expect smaller state schools to exhibit similar WL movement to what they typically experience?
 
Shammyguy3 said:
For me it was MCW- Central Wisconsin but yeah
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I am REALLY surprised that they sent the same waitlist email for both. Admissions says that the two programs should be considered part of the same "school" but the truth is they have different everything - including different waitlist movement and start dates.
 
smallscrapes said:
I am REALLY surprised that they sent the same waitlist email for both. Admissions says that the two programs should be considered part of the same "school" but the truth is they have different everything - including different waitlist movement and start dates.
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MCW is the acceptance I’m “holding onto” while waiting on the waitlist of my state school. I do intend to go there if I don’t get off the waitlist but maybe due to their CTE being July 15th (for MKE) what they meant by that email is that they don’t expect any WL movement until then (and probably with the corresponding CTE for the other campuses).
 
gyngyn said:
Most smaller states with a single public school have far fewer variables to account for. Even they accept more than the total number of seats by the end of interview season.
They could probably do whatever they usually do and be just fine this cycle.
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well i give up hope then
 
@gyngyn For schools that accepts the exact number of students corresponding to their seats and the rest waitlisted, would you expect them to be affected by the new rules too and their movement would be delayed? or they might be less susceptible?
 
med_cow_2019 said:
MCW is the acceptance I’m “holding onto” while waiting on the waitlist of my state school. I do intend to go there if I don’t get off the waitlist but maybe due to their CTE being July 15th (for MKE) what they meant by that email is that they don’t expect any WL movement until then (and probably with the corresponding CTE for the other campuses).
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You are not the only person who is doing this. Other people would prefer different schools to MCW and, as a result, have not CTE'd there. I am really surprised they would make this call about their class size. UNLESS of course they over-accepted, and are now hoping enough of you will drop for other waitlists.
 
@gyngyn I was just accepted off the waitlist of a school with a late June CTE, is this worth updating other schools I’d prefer of the CTE deadline of my current acceptance along with why I’d prefer them? I’ve already sent a LOI to one school and continued interest letters post-WL to the others
 
HL94 said:
@gyngyn For schools that accepts the exact number of students corresponding to their seats and the rest waitlisted, would you expect them to be affected by the new rules too and their movement would be delayed? or they might be less susceptible?
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I would. Until movement starts at the schools that historically poach from them, they cannot begin WL activity.
 
airceezy said:
@gyngyn I was just accepted off the waitlist of a school with a late June CTE, is this worth updating other schools I’d prefer of the CTE deadline of my current acceptance along with why I’d prefer them? I’ve already sent a LOI to one school and continued interest letters post-WL to the others
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Sure!
 
biochemandbass said:
Would you then expect smaller state schools to exhibit similar WL movement to what they typically experience?
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Yes, it will just be later, because movement from the usual poachers has been delayed (if my theory is correct).
 
smallscrapes said:
You are not the only person who is doing this. Other people would prefer different schools to MCW and, as a result, have not CTE'd there. I am really surprised they would make this call about their class size. UNLESS of course they over-accepted, and are now hoping enough of you will drop for other waitlists.
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I know I’m not the only one doing this lol. And MCW is not the only school with this same issue. All I’m saying is maybe they’re annoyed with people calling asking about movement so they’re basically saying we are currently full and don’t expect anything until later this summer (aka maybe after their CTE deadline when people might peace out)
 
med_cow_2019 said:
I know I’m not the only one doing this lol. And MCW is not the only school with this same issue. All I’m saying is maybe they’re annoyed with people calling asking about movement so they’re basically saying we are currently full and don’t expect anything until later this summer (aka maybe after their CTE deadline when people might peace out)
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I didn't think of that angle. I just figured they went the route @gyngyn said earlier: overaccepted like it were any other cycle and are now sweating a little bit.
 
I know many of you are having questions and concerns about living situations. Some have suggested investigating month to month payments with their landlords. Perhaps month to month hotels in the case you get in somewhere but waiting for top choice. For me, I am on 3 WL, two of which are OOS, but also curious about my prospects in the upcoming application cycle with an improved application.

Particularly, I am responsible for a dependent adult with a debilitating condition and also must consider family and significant other who also have varying levels of dependency on me. Yes, I am willing to move last minute if I must, and I have prepared plans and support, but am also wondering what are the prospects of requesting for deferral in these cases, especially because it seems like decisions may get down to the wire.

Knowing the fate of my future would make my decision making a thousand times easier and advantageous for economic and health-related reasons of those who I care for, and an earlier decision and timely application cycle would allow me to prepare for either outcome.

I guess this post is part frustration, part curiosity of deferral requests, and part concern for everyone and their loved ones in similar situations. I guess I know that I would have to move with a last minute offer, but just wanted to put my thoughts out there just because I can lol.
 
@gyngyn

Most T20 schools seem to be saying that their current class is full (at least with PTE applicants).

I feel like most movement will come from T20 applicant getting into their “preferable” state school.

Is this where state school CTE deadlines in May and June come into play? Thoughts?
 
ZFox said:
@gyngyn

Most T20 schools seem to be saying that their current class is full (at least with PTE applicants).

I feel like most movement will come from T20 applicant getting into their “preferable” state school.

Is this where state school CTE deadlines in May and June come into play? Thoughts?
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This is the problem!
Half of the world is still PTE. Whether this means that the class is "full" or not is anybody's guess.
 
Harvard is the top 20 with the earliest CTE date. Hopefully after that date people will start committing to places
 
2019:
The year that every medical school had near perfect yield and most people were unhappy with their final destination.
 
smallscrapes said:
You are not the only person who is doing this. Other people would prefer different schools to MCW and, as a result, have not CTE'd there. I am really surprised they would make this call about their class size. UNLESS of course they over-accepted, and are now hoping enough of you will drop for other waitlists.
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I think you are exactly right, and @gyngyn previously raised this exact possibility. The only explanation is that they over accepted in anticipation of normal attrition as people were accepted from other schools' waitlists. Since this hasn't happened yet, they are signaling (and at least giving you the courtesy of a head-up that lots of other schools are denying their WL applicants) that there won't be a lot of WL movement. If they were at or near their class target size, they would not dare send out that e-mail at this point in this year's process.
 
ReturnToMed said:
@gyngyn give the current situation, do the new rules hurt or help those with no acceptances?
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It depends.
Some schools interviewed (and waitlisted) more than their usual number.
Therefore it is reasonable to assume that there may be more left on waitlists than usual.
However, if someone got an interview that they might not have gotten in previous years, that's still a better chance at an acceptance than no interviews would have given them.
 
gyngyn said:
Nope, just a lot of PTE.
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This may be true at your school, but you have no visibility into schools that have not required PTE. To the extent those schools exist, and to the extent their accepted candidates have not voluntarily elected PTE or CTE, there are an unknown number of invisible applicants potentially holding multiple acceptances. If this isn't true, what will happen to precipitate large scale WL movement anywhere to initiate the cascade of movement you are anticipating next month?

I am very new to this, and I am sure you have forgotten more than I will ever know about this process, but in the absence of people holding multiple acceptances, with all schools being at or above their target size (albeit with half PTE) common sense dictates that PTEs will convert to CTE when the time comes because there will be no WL movement, without seats being created through the relinquishing of multiple acceptances, to cause you or anyone else to lose their PTEs. What else will create the need to initiate the WL movement?
 
KnightDoc said:
This may be true at your school, but you have no visibility into schools that have not required PTE. To the extent those schools exist, and to the extent their accepted candidates have not voluntarily elected PTE or CTE, there are an unknown number of invisible applicants potentially holding multiple acceptances. If this isn't true, what will happen to precipitate large scale WL movement anywhere to initiate the cascade of movement you are anticipating next month?

I am very new to this, and I am sure you have forgotten more than I will ever know about this process, but in the absence of people holding multiple acceptances, with all schools being at or above their target size (albeit with half PTE) common sense dictates that PTEs will convert to CTE when the time comes because there will be no WL movement without seats being created through the relinquishing of multiple acceptances. What else will create the need to initiate the WL movement?
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You might be surprised how much conversation has been opened up in the admissions community because of the AAMC debacle.
The odds that any of us (in CA, at least) has a dramatically different number holding multiple accepts is small.
It is possible that some of my colleagues really lacked all strategy, though. That would have resulted in over-acceptance (if the usual cascade of students picked off by the ivy's doesn't happen).
 
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