90s Time WWarp - Game Thread

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Remind me how you know that yesterday wasn't lylo?

Because if you'll recall, you also suggested at least once earlier that there were "only" 5 wolves, which I thought was cray cray with 23 players, but I am not Coffee.
I literally asked the mods in my role PM. KD told me yesterday wasn’t LYLO after I asked if we would be alerted to LYLO or not. I expected vagueness but she upfront told me yesterday was not *ylo. She also told me that nobody would believe me which I’m guessing is true. :laugh:

Iirc I thought at one point there were 6 or 7 wolves and everyone thought I was bat****. I don’t remember ever thinking there were 5 I think.
 
So much wifom
Want more?

I am also a terrible convert choice because I am 0 for however-many-# of times I've been a convert due to my terrible lylo performance/choices, AND because I am one of the players most likely to be suspected and lynched in end game regardless of affiliation.

But please, continue to push this idea
show me where to look, and tell me, what will I find?
 
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I am also a terrible convert choice
If I were lone wolfing it as miz at this point, I don't think I would pick you or me to convert tbh. I'd pick mpm, and let her get cred for lynching miz, and then just sit back and watch the village take both of us out one at a time. At least you have a way to prove your ability by making something, right?
 
....when you learned song lyrics wrong as a kid and then have trouble remembering which is the correct version off the top of your head :dead:

or when you learned song lyrics wrong and still dont even have a clue about the correct ones even though youve looked them up (see: spin doctors video from a few days ago)
 
If I were lone wolfing it as miz at this point, I don't think I would pick you or me to convert tbh. I'd pick mpm, and let her get cred for lynching miz, and then just sit back and watch the village take both of us out one at a time.
Would you like some cheese to go with that WIFOM? :hungry:

That plan is even riskier than I would be. I like it. :woot:
 
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@PippyPony can you at least answer if you’ve ever been protected?
As I said to @vetmedhead earlier in the game -- not all night results are for sharing.

When I have things happen that are potentially wolfy, I will freely share them so people have a record of it. In general, I also ascribe to the belief that it's helpful for PRs to share targets if they are about to get lynched or know they are going to die.

But in end game, there is absolutely no reason for people to be discussing things like protection, imo. And there is no way I would have shared anything about my own role unless I had nothing to lose by doing so.
 
Between the protector and convert theories:

If genny is a protector, this would obviously move her to the stronger village side for me, but I havent seen any protection/attack claims all game, including last night (although mutts hasnt checked in yet) - so that makes me think the convert option is more likely. Also the "no kill to threaten conversion" theory pippy put out there sounds like classic brilliant genny to me.

If there was a conversion, pippy is obviously the best target, but Id think wolves would be afraid of her ability claims, so mpm would be the next best choice, and as genny pointed out sets up nicely if she were to vote miz today for cred.

Miz hasnt done much all game to pique my wolf radar, but i do remember that "why havent i been accused yet?" conversation she started several days ago... if she were a wolf, maybe that was probing for opinions on what people thought of that logic and how to then set up a strategy for down the road, although i didnt really see it that way at the time. But after her complete "loss of composure" on thread yesterday she definitely became a possibility for me, still behind mutts but much closer to genny in terms of wolf to village read list. In limited PM so far she is acting pretty similar, kind of frantic but hell, im feeling the adrenaline too, i forgot how stressful this end game crap is. But could also be a sign of legit freakout if she is a wolf and the end is near lol.

A scenario has been coming together for me if genny were to be a wolf. After the D1 mutts rando claim about a cubs rojo, which i still contend could be her own wolfiness to set me up, genny voted for me a few days in a row, followed by sov doing the same (although not together). Then yesterday the genny/sov interactions yesterday seemed like they could be w/w before he went down. Im thinking maybe once the mutts thing didnt stick and their votes on me gained no traction, it was already D4-5 and people had started putting me in village camp, they cut bait and decided to keep me around as long as possible as a potential easier end game mislynch. Also, once pippy outed my ability on thread, it was clear I wasnt really a threat from a PR standpoint. Also, in my genny PM she threw out this idea that my "song and movie of the day" posts were somehow nefarious and asked if I was getting some kind of wolfy bonus for them, so of course i defended against that, but that may have been her actually fishing for info without me even realizing it at the time, since my actions were the ones "in question."

I have pippy as my most solid villager.

So to summarize, I think village needs to vote together today, and I would go mutts, miz, or genny depending on corroborating thoughts and other evidence. I think it is definitely possible that pippy could have been converted, but way more likely it was mpm, if it even happened at all.

Have bowling tonight so would like to get a voting consensus in earlier than later so I dont miss something critical towards close.
 
Also, in my genny PM she threw out this idea that my "song and movie of the day" posts were somehow nefarious and asked if I was getting some kind of wolfy bonus for them, so of course i defended against that, but that may have been her actually fishing for info without me even realizing it at the time, since my actions were the ones "in question."
Is it really fishing though if I’m straight up asking you to admit to sketchy things? Lol

You didn’t respond when I suggested I was wolf-friendly chaos, so I tried something else.
 
Can anyone give any actually good reasons why it’s me?
I think the afflac kill choice is what’s leaning me strongest to you today. It makes your vote flips look more village since a dead villager also did them, and it breaks up the vouching that mpm and afflac were doing for each other. I think you would have an easier time getting Pippy and I to distrust each other than 2 people who are seeing each other in person. And I think this group is really well set up for absolute hell if we have to convert hunt, and I think you’re most likely to be able to construct an endgame like this.
 
As I said to @vetmedhead earlier in the game -- not all night results are for sharing.

When I have things happen that are potentially wolfy, I will freely share them so people have a record of it. In general, I also ascribe to the belief that it's helpful for PRs to share targets if they are about to get lynched or know they are going to die.

But in end game, there is absolutely no reason for people to be discussing things like protection, imo. And there is no way I would have shared anything about my own role unless I had nothing to lose by doing so.
Of course there is a reason. If nobody else has any idea if a role exists then they’re going to believe it doesn’t exist.
 
Between the protector and convert theories:

If genny is a protector, this would obviously move her to the stronger village side for me, but I havent seen any protection/attack claims all game, including last night (although mutts hasnt checked in yet) - so that makes me think the convert option is more likely. Also the "no kill to threaten conversion" theory pippy put out there sounds like classic brilliant genny to me.

If there was a conversion, pippy is obviously the best target, but Id think wolves would be afraid of her ability claims, so mpm would be the next best choice, and as genny pointed out sets up nicely if she were to vote miz today for cred.

Miz hasnt done much all game to pique my wolf radar, but i do remember that "why havent i been accused yet?" conversation she started several days ago... if she were a wolf, maybe that was probing for opinions on what people thought of that logic and how to then set up a strategy for down the road, although i didnt really see it that way at the time. But after her complete "loss of composure" on thread yesterday she definitely became a possibility for me, still behind mutts but much closer to genny in terms of wolf to village read list. In limited PM so far she is acting pretty similar, kind of frantic but hell, im feeling the adrenaline too, i forgot how stressful this end game crap is. But could also be a sign of legit freakout if she is a wolf and the end is near lol.

A scenario has been coming together for me if genny were to be a wolf. After the D1 mutts rando claim about a cubs rojo, which i still contend could be her own wolfiness to set me up, genny voted for me a few days in a row, followed by sov doing the same (although not together). Then yesterday the genny/sov interactions yesterday seemed like they could be w/w before he went down. Im thinking maybe once the mutts thing didnt stick and their votes on me gained no traction, it was already D4-5 and people had started putting me in village camp, they cut bait and decided to keep me around as long as possible as a potential easier end game mislynch. Also, once pippy outed my ability on thread, it was clear I wasnt really a threat from a PR standpoint. Also, in my genny PM she threw out this idea that my "song and movie of the day" posts were somehow nefarious and asked if I was getting some kind of wolfy bonus for them, so of course i defended against that, but that may have been her actually fishing for info without me even realizing it at the time, since my actions were the ones "in question."

I have pippy as my most solid villager.

So to summarize, I think village needs to vote together today, and I would go mutts, miz, or genny depending on corroborating thoughts and other evidence. I think it is definitely possible that pippy could have been converted, but way more likely it was mpm, if it even happened at all.

Have bowling tonight so would like to get a voting consensus in earlier than later so I dont miss something critical towards close.
Tbf cubs I didn’t start the ‘why haven’t I been discussed het’ Thing. Pippy started it and I replied.
 
And then there’s this continued line of questioning that is really most beneficial for wolves.
It isn’t. There are multiple villagers questioning if the role even exists. I DO NOT FISH LIKE THIS AS A WOLF. Pip should know this. Hell, ziggy tried to throw shade at me for fishing. But pip doesn’t even sound like she’s been protected since she doesn’t seem sure about you. I’ve lived as an outed protector to final three; in my experience wolves leave you alone completely because of the chance of self protection.
 
I think the afflac kill choice is what’s leaning me strongest to you today. It makes your vote flips look more village since a dead villager also did them, and it breaks up the vouching that mpm and afflac were doing for each other. I think you would have an easier time getting Pippy and I to distrust each other than 2 people who are seeing each other in person. And I think this group is really well set up for absolute hell if we have to convert hunt, and I think you’re most likely to be able to construct an endgame like this.
This reasoning is odd to me. I would not kill an outed vanillager over a possible power role.
 
Another dumb ass wolf move: be the last one on the SOV lynch and five minutes to end of day talk about how bad I feel about the lynch. Why make this harder on myself than it needs to be?
 
Another dumb ass wolf move: be the last one on the SOV lynch and five minutes to end of day talk about how bad I feel about the lynch. Why make this harder on myself than it needs to be?
To try to spook people into switching off? But then it is also tempting to remain on something like that for cred.

Quite frankly, sticking on that vote despite claiming bad feels well within waffle hour is one of the biggest wolf points I have for you at the moment.
 
To try to spook people into switching off? But then it is also tempting to remain on something like that for cred.

Quite frankly, sticking on that vote despite claiming bad feels well within waffle hour is one of the biggest wolf points I have for you at the moment.
Welp then you can’t read me. If this is lylo that’s a pity for village. I don’t do things like that as a wolf, pip. And you just saw me wolf. I will bus bus bus bus bus but I willl NOT sit on a wolf lynch a complain about it. Nobody was even around to flip at that point except for maybe genny.
 
I am straight up terrible at reading you and will be the first to admit that. Wolfing together a few weeks ago just made me realize how very bad other people are at reading you, too lol
If this isn’t lylo I’m going to see if mods can close early to get this over with. If this is LYLO I’m going to try and convince you guys otherwise but genny is either in a tunnel or sees easy pickings/as is mutts. You’re already voting me. MPM said yesterday she wanted me gone. I’m too busy to spend the day trying to convince you all how wrong you are if this isn’t lylo.
 
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