I think I will wait till the march announcement to cancel, just to be safe. The money is already spend a refund will come later rather than sooner. I also don't really need the money right now. Don't want to get screwed over with suddenly needing a date before match lists are finalized
You’re test has already been cancelled for you and they will refund you your money automatically.
No thats dumb, read the first line of the announcement, the PE is canceled indefinitely.. why on earth would you want them to hold on to your $$?
Yes 100%. Guys remember that 1 month’s notice to come up with a “alternative pathway” is such a short time frame for a examination organization. Also the fact they are refunding us and that could take a while means they won’t spend millions engineering a virtual exam.
sounds like they are cancelling it manually on their end so it is whatever either way
Oh sh** this changes how I feel. PE is dead!!
Not for a while, I doubt it ever will
Yea ppl are just scared about "alternative pathways" its nothing but a stupid game from the NBOME to play along the whole "public safety" thing to try to save face, there is no realistic way they can design a test in 1-2 months time for class of 2021, 2022 and even beyond.. Keep in mind that the vast majority of medical education has done away with a similar test(Step 2 CS), that only puts more presssure on NBOME to not restart the PE IMO..
yeahhhh this is why I'm not ready to pop bottles yet.
well it took them about 4 weeks to mail me a check back when it wasn't a massive demand time (like nothing special happened). But that was because they had my money so long, the credit card I paid for it with no longer existed to refund it to, so they told me they had to send a paper check,
I'm still nervous, like hawthorn said above. It already crossed my mind that the "alternate pathway" could be just as annoying or worse, and possibly available even later.
I hope so.
Exactly. Don't give NBME an interest-free loan that they can put in their bank account to earn them interest instead.
LOL because its trying to save face, what "alternative pathway" can it be? It will just be that individual schools must certify that their students passed the OSCE and have the necessary "skills" in order to not endanger patients.. I cant think of anything else, they wont be able to design a virtual PE in such a short time...
No, they don’t have time. Remember they spent all their time on trying to make a physical PE happen. AND they are actively refunding money now. They are not designing some virtual PE we have to do. Remember in their FAQs they say people usually take Level 3 after 6 months of intern year. That gives them 10 months to design and implement something for 6000 DO residents, and have those 6000 DOs take whatever it is......
They cant even realistically design it for CO 2022 since our announcement wont come till april, that leaves them with less than a year to test all of class of 2022 virtually..
What in the entire **** does this chart mean? Can anyone decipher any of this? It’s like they are planting bushes for the sole purpose of beating around them. Someone needs to put these people im prison for torturing us
Notice his name isn’t anywhere on it.... unlike every other announcement before now...
Those MFs gonna keep me holding my breath till July rip
That says July 2022!!! Wtf
How did you get to this page? I can never find their announcements or anything on the website.
Oh....I didn't even see that....WTF
Hahahahaha I’m so confused now
I have serious doubts that they will have a concrete plan for us by then.
Why can't they just be transparent about something for once. Just say it's cancelled. And done. It doesn't need to be a 6 month process.
"Psh that's weak. The only way we can truly determine your competency and ensure you aren't a threat to the public is by seeing 12 fake patients and maybe giving some of them a massage when you may or may not already be real doctor taking time off from seeing real patients." - The NBOME
They can’t be transparent about something they don’t even know themselves. They are literally flying my the seat of their pants here.
Yeah....I wonder if the COMs will like it better this way. Instead of student money going to NBOME, the schools can invent a more intensive clinical skills course and charge tuition for it, just like they do for OMM. They're being handed a great excuse to charge more tuition to their students (most of whom will borrow the money from the government).
Maybe. Perhaps NBOME will "train" the "official" OSCE patients or may provide schools with their grading rubrics and stuff to "standardize" the test. I feel they could $charge$ for decentralizing the PE and let schools deal with the administration of it under their guidance/methods or whatever. Dunno but I'm glad it's gone
I just don’t see how they are going to get class of ‘21 to come back after graduation and take a stupid osce?
Was today a good day for you jkdoctor?
I suspect it'll be something where our own schools evaluate us. According to someone high up in SGA and very involved with all this stuff at my school, one of the options being discussed is to basically use the pre-OSCE most schools make us take before letting us take the PE function as the PE.
