... And for the 3rd years like myself with PE scheduled in late June... forced to take it and see ya later $$ and time? I almost want to cancel and roll the dice with it getting canceled outright - though I've already paid and who knows if I'd get that money back.
This is not the first time the NBOME has said "X is why Z is happening" and it been straight up not true based on the words of the other organization's announcement. It has happened several times now.
OMM is evaluated during m1 and m2 and during OMM rotations. This is more rigorous and valid than being judged on doing OMM on about 3 fake patients during PE. Therefore OMM is adequately assessed during actual med school and the PE is redundant.
Yeah buts its not standardized across the schools like Level 1, 2 and 3 are. I just need a good defense so I don't look like a ******* in front of him.
I requested a refund because I didn’t have a test date, was cancelled 5-7 times (no exaggeration) since April 2020, and they had my money for over a year and a half. If I had an April date, or even the chance to sign up in April-June before residency, I wouldn’t have gotten the refund. But they blocked those months from the sign-up calendar and wouldn’t even explain why.
OMM gets tested across the entire DO school experience from pre-clinical to clinical.
I’m late July and I’m now debating doing the same thing. Funny how it seems we might be punished for trying to be responsible because the NBOME just sucks that much.
Who are you again...? And why are you meeting with Gimp?
Your OMM faculty have probably even said this 100 times during M1 and M2. Mine definitely did. That's how they defend the variation and lack of consistency in any OMM teaching and physical exam finding. The whole osteopathic world is literally built on a house of cards due to them spending all day speaking from both sides of their mouths every chance they get. It's unreal.
OPP COMAT?
@Deecee2DO hit the nail on the head. Mention that the OMM faculty justification for no OMM research is that it is an art and can't be standardized so how can they say that and then expect a standardized test on the practice of it... on 3 fake patients.
No. But I do know some DO schools that make their kids take Shelf instead of COMATs.... so maybe its a start lol
oh lord. what year are you? honestly dude/dudette i would not go through with this meeting unless you are graduated/about to graduate. he holds too much power over med students and has proven to be very vindictive. ii would hate to see him file a professionalism complaint or something else to screw you over based on this meeting. tread very verrrrry carefully.
@Noisewater-TDX knows lol
Cancel it. One of my friends just called them and asked for a refund, he said the lady was very frazzled. I suspect people are canceling in droves right now. Pile on.
Yup one of my classmates canceled as well. The lady begged her not to cancel saying "there will be tons of dates opening in April shortly" LOL
This has been talked about by clinical skills faculty at my school for 4 years now. They even proposed it to the NBOME.
I'm pretty sure NBOME will hire lobbyists to make sure those 5 states DON'T change laws.
This is completely logical. Only one problem the NBOME loses money. If it were truly about protecting the public then they never would have even thought to have us travel during the pandemic. Gimpel is shameful in his lies that it is to "protect the public." It's to line your own pocket and everyone knows it.
Yup. Wouldn't surprise me and the sad part is my student loans would be paying for their lawyers to actively harm my career.
Class of 2022 should just rally our schools to remove it from being a graduation requirement, that way we won’t have to worry about it until later..
Bro... it’s a trap.
I mean, if no one says anything to him, how do we know he is not surrounded by yes-men who approve all his ideas. It is risky to reach out to him, but also perhaps necessary.
I would normally agree with you, but this man is not above ruining peoples careers out of spite. We are not in a power structure where students concerns are given priority.
I'm in July and I would be so pissed if I took it and it was cancelled right after. I want to practice in FL so don't have the balls to just try and not take it, but now I may consider cancelling my current date and just snagging one in December after interviews. Although my school sent out an email last week that our deadline for taking PE has been extended to end of September because they realize people are having scheduling issues...like lol people do you even realize there are no dates until December
This is what I'm pondering: if there is really any benefit to keeping my summer test date. If I take PE I risk failing and being totally screwed for interviews and the match. If I cancel it I'll be fine since PDs won't care, seeing as they'll no longer be tracking if MD students have CS done. My school hasn't waived it as a graduation requirement but come autumn they really won't have a choice. Many of my classmates are currently stuck with September and October test dates and it's not like they can keep half of us from graduating.
At this point everyone with a summer date should just cancel, in the case they actually end up resuming testing(highly doubt it actually happens) you won’t have to worry about it till later, there’s no way they can test everyone in such a short period of time.
Cancel. The sooner the better. And call them to do it.
So uh... how did the meeting go?
My school is giving us until Dec 31 to take PE so I’m seriously considering canceling and grabbing a December date. I’m not about to have this stupid exam ruin my life if god forbid I should fail. PDs literally won’t care since MDs don’t have it anymore so I really want to try and wait them out and take it at the very last second if need be.
Im leaning the same as you but my concern is getting in trouble with my school. I assume they know when we are registered for things and I'm afraid I'll get in trouble for cancelling a date and then registering for one after their "deadline".
If your school's deadline is Dec I would definitely reschedule.
This 100%. LOL
i mean if they can even figure how to test thousands of residents who are class of 2021.
