Ain't you guys tired of medical student bull**** you

[armorshell]

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I'm sure if they made primetime TV shows about dentistry we would get less flak 😕

 

[ChymeChancellor]

Wow, how original. I certainly hope your GPA and MCATs are good, because if you're banking on your personality and creativity getting you into med school then you may need to start thinking about getting your realtor's license. Don't worry though...I'm sure your husband will dig the red blazer.

I'm almost 100% confident that my GPA and MCAT score is higher than yours... but oh wait, you silly pre-dents don't take the MCAT do you? You take the DAT, don't you feel special. 😀

And why would my husband dig the red blazer. First of all, I wouldn't have a husband because I am neither female nor homosexual. And second, I have never seen a realtor in a red blazer.

And to the guy who told us to refer to this place as the "pre-rich or pre-benz" forum, physicians make a ton more then you silly dentists will ever dream of. Look up the actual numbers. Yeah you start making money sooner but no one ever looks up to their dentist. No one thinks to themselves, "let me aspire for greatness, let me aspire to be a dentist."

Give me a break.

 

[aggie.teacher]

In my experience, the ones who are interested in teaching are the idiots. I mean, of course, you can't generalize; but yes, people who go into teaching are stupid (on a variety of levels). Engineers on the other hand, I think there's a bunch of smart cookies in that group; if you want to generalize.

But who are we kidding; guys, let's stop taking jabs at doctors, or dentists, or whatever. The ones we should all be beating on are the dental hygienists/assistants and nurses. 👍

I'm glad you made it this far with a lot of idiots guiding you the whole way. I think most teachers are idiots for putting up with the crap we put up with everyday with no appreciation from people like you. Your teachers should have just sat you in front of a computer and left you to do your best on your own. I'd really trust my doctor/dentist that learned that way. Most of the frustrated teachers I know ARE frustrated because they know they are smart enough to do better and wish they had gone to grad school. That's why I'm out!

 

[HermeytheElf]

I just asked my magic 8 ball if this thread would be closing soon; it says "Signs point to yes".

 

[armorshell]

And to the guy who told us to refer to this place as the "pre-rich or pre-benz" forum, physicians make a ton more then you silly dentists will ever dream of. Look up the actual numbers. Yeah you start making money sooner but no one ever looks up to their dentist. No one thinks to themselves, "let me aspire for greatness, let me aspire to be a dentist."

Give me a break.

Tell that to all the ortho dudes working 30 hours/week pulling in .5 mil/year 🙄

And don't forget, if we ever feel the itch we can always just hop right into a residency after dental school, and be slicing just about the same time as you.

And we get to have more letters after our names. Especailly oral surgeons!

 

[tom_servo_dds]

Human teeth are designed to last as long as we're designed to live. Us docs went and messed with the life expectancy so we need our blessed dentists to mess with the tooth expectancy.

We'll do our best to keep up with ya!

 

[velo]

Tell that to all the ortho dudes working 30 hours/week pulling in .5 mil/year 🙄

You want to introduce me to some of those guys? I want to figure out how they pulled that off.

According to recent figures orthopods report an average work week of ~55 hours and a salary in the mid 200s...not too shabby, but nowhere near what you're quoting.

 

[armorshell]

You want to introduce me to some of those guys? I want to figure out how they pulled that off.

According to recent figures orthopods report an average work week of ~55 hours and a salary in the mid 200s...not too shabby, but nowhere near what you're quoting.

Orthodontists friend. Dontists.

 

[prez_al]

Orthodontists friend. Dontists.

Good one Armorshell

 

[puncho]

Why would you care what someone else has to say? It'll only bother you if you let it bother you. 🙄

This is more a case of insecurity than anything else. Have respect for yourself and be happy and proud of whatever profession you choose to pursue.

 

[armorshell]

Good one Armorshell

The only ones I have are good ones

 

[RockstarDMD]

You want to introduce me to some of those guys? I want to figure out how they pulled that off.

According to recent figures orthopods report an average work week of ~55 hours and a salary in the mid 200s...not too shabby, but nowhere near what you're quoting.

From what seems to be the postings of an intelligent individual. I think you should rethink the logic in this post, edit and then resubmit. The "numbers" you are looking up are only based off " salaries". Find the numbers representing private practice ownership, then my friend you have a leg to stand on. However, as you know these facts are hard to find.

 

[armorshell]

From what seems to be the postings of an intelligent individual. I think you should rethink the logic in this post, edit and then resubmit. The "numbers" you are looking up are only based off " salaries". Find the numbers representing private practice ownership, then my friend you have a leg to stand on. However, as you know these facts are hard to find.

DMD, he wasn't even looking at orthdontists, he thought I was talking about orthopedic surgeons

But what DMD says is true, most of the government figures for dental salaries are lowwww

 

[fancymylotus]

You want to introduce me to some of those guys? I want to figure out how they pulled that off.

According to recent figures orthopods report an average work week of ~55 hours and a salary in the mid 200s...not too shabby, but nowhere near what you're quoting.

you should meet my dad

 

[velo]

Orthodontists friend. Dontists.

oh, haha..."ortho" means something different to me

 

[fancymylotus]

I'm almost 100% confident that my GPA and MCAT score is higher than yours... but oh wait, you silly pre-dents don't take the MCAT do you? You take the DAT, don't you feel special. 😀

And why would my husband dig the red blazer. First of all, I wouldn't have a husband because I am neither female nor homosexual. And second, I have never seen a realtor in a red blazer.

And to the guy who told us to refer to this place as the "pre-rich or pre-benz" forum, physicians make a ton more then you silly dentists will ever dream of. Look up the actual numbers. Yeah you start making money sooner but no one ever looks up to their dentist. No one thinks to themselves, "let me aspire for greatness, let me aspire to be a dentist."

Give me a break.

I aspire to be a dermatologist because I'm going to save so many lives from the brink of death and REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE!




/end sarcasm

 

[armorshell]

you should meet my dad

When my dad was still around he made well into the 300's. As a general dentist. Who didn't own his own practice 🙂

 

[armorshell]

I aspire to be a dermatologist because I'm going to save so many lives from the brink of death and REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE!




/end sarcasm

Funny how the hardest specialites in med to match into are those in which you rarely deal directly with patients nor life or death situations e.g. derm, radiology, opthamology

 

[velo]

From what seems to be the postings of an intelligent individual. I think you should rethink the logic in this post, edit and then resubmit. The "numbers" you are looking up are only based off " salaries". Find the numbers representing private practice ownership, then my friend you have a leg to stand on. However, as you know these facts are hard to find.

Yeah I didn't know he was talking about orthodontists, I hear "ortho" and think orthopedic surgeon. While some of them in private practice probably pull down that kind of salary, the average income is not as high as he quoted and none of them work 30 hrs a week

I have no knowledge of orthodontists hours and incomes--but based on the fact that its all office work, lots of parents get braces for their kids, and for many its an out-of-pocket, cosmetic expense... I'll bet they're sitting pretty.

 

[fancymylotus]

Funny how the hardest specialites in med to match into are those in which you rarely deal directly with patients nor life or death situations e.g. derm, radiology, opthamology

I'm gonna send some people to lenscrafters,do some lasik,and REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE!



(disclaimer:ive been studying 10 hrs/day for the DAT, im a lil cranky)

 

[velo]

oh, and Dental students, I emplore you, don't listen to chyme. He's obviously an idiot.

 

[armorshell]

Yeah I didn't know he was talking about orthodontists, I hear "ortho" and think orthopedic surgeon. While some of them in private practice probably pull down that kind of salary, the average income is not as high as he quoted and none of them work 30 hrs a week

That salary is probably within 1 standard deviation of average, maybe less. Also, that is definately something you can achieve working part time, depending on your skill as a businessman. The orthodontist I shadowed is fairly young, operates solo, works 4 8 hours days a week and pulls down those numbers.

The orthodontist I work with works every other week, owns something like 3 practices all over Washington, and I don't know close to what he pulls down, but I do know he's buying a million dollar house in a city he only spends every other week in.

Also, let me say, I could give a crap about ortho and their money. It looks like the most boring thing I've ever seen

 

[armorshell]

I'm gonna send some people to lenscrafters,do some lasik,and REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE!



(disclaimer:ive been studying 10 hrs/day for the DAT, im a lil cranky)

My good buddy Dan (who's a dentist) told me I should apply to med school and try to match opthamology. Apparently he met some opth guy who works across the street from my office, and all he does is sit around all day while the computer blast out $700 lasik after lasik

Sounds pretty boring to me though...

 

[diagnodent]

Or you could be a 29 y.o. like me 4 years out and pull in 350k in 32 hours. Not too bad for a dentist. With my practice as is I'll be 32 and making 500k and when I purchase my neighbors practice I'll be 35 earning a million. How many MD's or dentists can say that. I'm not saying I know nearly as much as a MD in terms of bio/chem, etc. All I'm saying is I know more about business systems and customer service than 90% of MD's or dentists which is the difference in MD's and dentists.

How many times have you waited in a physicians waiting room? Every single time. How many times have you waited in my waiting room? Never. How many times does your MD call you at home after they see you? Never. How many times do I call you at home after a procedure? Every single time.

Thats the difference.

If you are too ignorant to understand the business differences, then good luck at owning your practice if its dental or medical.

 

[armorshell]

oh, and Dental students, I emplore you, don't listen to chyme. He's obviously an idiot.

Okay, maybe we'll quit poking you then 🙂

 

[HermeytheElf]

oh, and Dental students, I emplore you, don't listen to chyme. He's obviously an idiot.

Obviously...he didn't even catch the Simpsons reference in my post (realtors wearing red blazers).

 

[fightingspirit]

Ain't you guys tired of medical student bull**** you, like how easy DAT test compare to MCAT...And everything, and they acting like superior than anybody or something.
Anyways I am kind tired of this ****.

suppose medical students DO make fun of dental students
suppose the DAT is actually WAY easier than the MCAT
suppose Dental school is WAY easier than medical school
and suppose NBDE is WAY easier than USMLE....

Well, so Fcuking what? l think most med-students don t waste time makin fun of dental students and are too busy to compare themselves to dental students. however, let us assume that you are right in the sense that they give you "bull". well, how is that going to affect your career and lifestyle? would that beslight the dental profession in any way?

now to speak the truth, the DAT is easier than the MCAT but that is not because meds need to be smarter (unlike research, physics or engineering, health professions seem to require more discipline and memory than intelligence and creativity ). it's just because the competition for med-school is more intense and so the weeding test needs to be harder. you need 30+ to get into med-school but i bet you a 24 would get you in if the competition was 60% of what it is now. the DAT would become a very difficult test if a 25AA would be needed to get in when the number of dent appplicants becomes as high as that for med applicants.

reframing drhobie's argument, NBDE is easier than USMLE not because dental students are intellectually challenged but simply because the material is less voluminous for understandeable reasons.

now dental school is surely not easier than med-school but if it is, then that's a good thing for us. why is it that harder things are considered better? i think it is nice that the DAT and NBDE are easier than MCAT and USMLE and i dont beleive that harder undertakings/tests are inherently more worthy than easier ones.

finally, i do beleive that med-students in general feel that they are somewhat superior intellectually and socially to others. when they start practicing medicine, many of them truly develop the i-am-god-so-worship-me attitude. this is all related to the prestige thing that medicine offers you automatically. you know what though? prestige is the only good thing that stands out in terms of what a medical degree/career can offer over dentistry, so by all means, let the meds have it; let them enjoy the prestige and its display.....after all, they usually have nothing else to enjoy, unless they are in it for the love of the game off course, which is most likely around 1% of meds...

 

[ItsGavinC]

MD vs DMD threads won't be tolerated. They always digress into a stinking pile of dung.