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BOWWLING TOURNAMENT GAME THREAD
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What were your thoughts on the role reveal?lets try this again
Contingency yeet violets
Can I have an updated readslist ranking everyone?It hindsight, it really didn't. Kind of just a waste, but I had a last-minute feeling that all the waffles away from violet and piling onto fluff/ivy were off. I didn't like any of the three predominant options so I quick tried to find a waffler who I've had slight pings about. Hoped maybe by some chance others had similar vote placements.
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Indifferent because it’s established violets was known to fakeclaim beforeWhat were your thoughts on the role reveal?
Fak
I mean, I've only played two games. Never even revealed my role in the first noob game since I got nked. This isn't really solid reasoning, so if you're going to still vote for me, I'd like some more details.Indifferent because it’s established violets was known to fakeclaim before
I think you’re a wolf and your packmates saved you by bandwagoning on fluffy and ivymoosyI mean, I've only played two games. Never even revealed my role in the first noob game since I got nked. This isn't really solid reasoning, so if you're going to still vote for me, I'd like some more details.
justafluff
Good skelegg
Why the hell did you yeet me @Melchizedek ?
alleys and i have similar feels which makes it hard for me; will iso her but she was not on my inital feels list.How are you reading alleys and violets?
Idk about VV -- esp with the way everything moved.... willl give you better feels after sleepsss
I’m going to nail down on the bandwagoners too, so it’s not like i’m stuck in a tunnel
Wait you decided to unyeet Sporty because you were getting pushback?Reason I voted for Ivy. I didn't even see her post. People started piling on me, cause I voted for Sporty. I found Sporty wolfy, but then, I don't know her well so I wasn't 100% sure about her and I said so, when I yeeted her. When ppl started saying that they didn't like me retaliating on Sporty, I decided I'll unyeet. Then I read April's post which made Ivy look super sketchy, and I decided to go with that. I said I wasn't gonna vote Violet, not Ivy.
So far though we have Gutter Ball, Strikes, and Spares. Based off that, I bet we have at least one village Double and a Turkey in our midst. No idea what the PR would be for that (and I don't want know, please don't tell me).
That's it
I'm not doing extended ISOs anymore 😂
I'm not doing extended ISOs anymore 😂
This turn of events makes me feel much worse about violet.
Yeah i would prefer not to speculate on remaining possible village roles.So far though we have Gutter Ball, Strikes, and Spares. Based off that, I bet we have at least one village Double and a Turkey in our midst. No idea what the PR would be for that (and I don't want know, please don't tell me).
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Explain?This turn of events makes me feel much worse about violet.
I used to do them and it never netted me anything.That's it
I'm not doing extended ISOs anymore 😂
The only time I’ve found isos helpful for myself at all is once a wolf flips to do interaction checks.
justafluff
Good skelegg
Also to be fair, since @Melchizedek asked my read on meats, I like meats but I don't like that they agree with @alleycat03 a lot. And I'm sick of being perceived wolfy by alley. But please excuse me if I sound abrasive, cause this is the first time people massively piled next to my name, so I'll recollect my thoughts and come back on thread tomorrow.
I've had occasional success with ISOs. I caught Mel when he forced me to ISO him. That was funnyI used to do them and it never netted me anything.
The only time I’ve found isos helpful for myself at all is once a wolf flips to do interaction checks.
Noting this tally at 8:48 PM ESTFrame 2 Official Voting Tally (as of post 2094)
Vis (1) - zuri
Meats (1) - AM
Violet (6) - Lawpy, puppy, meats, blue, alley, shelty
OctoDoc (2) - True, violet
zuri () -
Sporty (1) - Mel
Oxygen (1) - Octodoc
Ivy (-)
Fluff (1) - Sporty
Leading: @violetvett
Ineligible: samac
13/20
missing:
@youngkal @justafluff @Viscernable @IvyMoose @WorthlessOxygen @Zenge142 @Aprilthearab
Day close: 1.2 hours 10PM EST/9PM CST/7PM FANTASYLAND
The hopping off of you at the last minute feels like a wolf attempt to save you. I moved because I felt more strongly that fluff was likely to be a wolf but you aren't in the clear for me, nor even neutral. I gave you the benefit of the doubt because of your tone when you were defending yourself but now I'm not sure I made the right choice.Explain?
I don't have the mental energy to think about anything that just happened, all I know is that I need to change some or a lot of reads
I'm better, I think, at feeling out village than wolf-- of course there is more village than wolf, so that would be easier-- and I did not get wolf vibes from Ivy at all. You see I remarked on being undecided about her before the write-up was posted. Hope that helpsI guess I’m trying to reconcile that with this.
And I’m not sure what to think about it.
I don't know how I feel about violet, but I want to remind everyone tunnel vision leads to village loss. Make sure you're focusing on the minimum number of wolves that exist in a game and trying to continue building a bloc.
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thanks I just think I shouldn't have jumped in the deep end... sorry to bow out, and good luck to the village everyone!
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thanks I just think I shouldn't have jumped in the deep end... sorry to bow out, and good luck to the village everyone!
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@WorthlessOxygen and @zuriburi hope you’re doing okay!
justafluff
Good skelegg
I wasn't 100% sure on sporty to begin with. She is still on the wolfier side for me, and if the bandwagon on me hadn't happened, id still yeet her tomorrow. I changed my vote cause I felt bad about Ivy all day and well, didn't like people voting for me and calling my vote of sporty retaliatory.Wait you decided to unyeet Sporty because you were getting pushback?
EDIT: adding this: I also didn't see a single thing Ivy posted, my focus was on the votes that started piling up
Truenamer
Toothy, Furry Villager
If she's a wolf, then one of them could have gotten a read on another villager last night, seen that they were also a strike, and realized that they were duplicate role names. And they could have communicated all of this in wolf chat. Violet, sorry, you are definitely high on my list right now.I think you’re a wolf and your packmates saved you by bandwagoning on fluffy and ivymoosy
Not comprehensive but @puppydogtor is very village to me now. Alley is hard for me to read. True is village. VV vote flight list prob has a lot of village.Can I have an updated readslist ranking everyone?
April, Octo not cleared to me. Full player list to follow.
Removing the dead villagers makes it kal, violet, octo, meats, and fluff, so unless that's exactly what the pack is which I highly doubt, I need to reconsider people in my village readsMy POE is feeling like kal, violet, Ivy, zuri, Octo, meats, Oxy, fluff
Yeah I tunneled on Ivy during the noob game. It wasn't the reason they were eventually killed/yeeted (don't remember which) but they turned out village. Won't be doing that again.I don't know how I feel about violet, but I want to remind everyone tunnel vision leads to village loss. Make sure you're focusing on the minimum number of wolves that exist in a game and trying to continue building a bloc.
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Frame 2 Official Voting Tally (as of post 2094)
Vis (1) - zuri
Meats (1) - AM
Violet (6) - Lawpy, puppy, meats, blue, alley, shelty
OctoDoc (2) - True, violet
zuri () -
Sporty (1) - Mel
Oxygen (1) - Octodoc
Ivy (-)
Fluff (1) - Sporty
Leading: @violetvett
Ineligible: samac
13/20
missing:
@youngkal @justafluff @Viscernable @IvyMoose @WorthlessOxygen @Zenge142 @Aprilthearab
Day close: 1.2 hours 10PM EST/9PM CST/7PM FANTASYLAND
yeet SportPonies
I'll return the sentiment.
Maybe I'll pull a Mr Waffles depending on how things go.
Yeet Ivy
Imma stick to my guns // gut
Vote IvyMoose
Noting these from 8:48 PM to 9:26 PM ESTFrame 2 Official Voting Tally (as of post 2189)
Vis (1) - zuri
Meats (1) - AM
Violet (6) - Lawpy, puppy, meats, blue, alley, shelty
OctoDoc (2) - True, violet
zuri () -
Sporty (2) - Mel, jfluff
Oxygen (1) - Octodoc
Ivy (-)
Fluff (3) - Sporty, April, ykal
Leading: @violetvett
Ineligible: samac
16/20
missing:
@Viscernable @IvyMoose @WorthlessOxygen @Zenge142
Day close: <35 MINUTES 10PM EST/9PM CST/7PM FANTASYLAND
Your WTF reaction pushes you out of my red zone again, sorry FluffI wasn't 100% sure on sporty to begin with. She is still on the wolfier side for me, and if the bandwagon on me hadn't happened, id still yeet her tomorrow. I changed my vote cause I felt bad about Ivy all day and well, didn't like people voting for me and calling my vote of sporty retaliatory.
I might have been right about her to begin with and shouldn't have let the guilt trip move meThis turn of events makes me feel much worse about violet.
I hope you come back to play with us later on! This is my third game and I feel out of my depth as well.******
thanks I just think I shouldn't have jumped in the deep end... sorry to bow out, and good luck to the village everyone!
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I actually meant from Octo, but I'll accept reads if you have them as well.Not comprehensive but @puppydogtor is very village to me now. Alley is hard for me to read. True is village. VV vote flight list prob has a lot of village.
April, Octo not cleared to me. Full player list to follow.
Contingency vote Octo.
I don't like how they keeping popping in and out of the thread. It makes me uncomfy.
I don't like how they keeping popping in and out of the thread. It makes me uncomfy.
Noting this at 9:43 PM ESTFrame 2 Official Voting Tally (as of post 2224)
Vis (1) - zuri
Meats (1) - AM
Violet (5) - Lawpy, puppy, meats, blue, alley
OctoDoc (1) - violet
zuri () -
Sporty (2) - Mel, jfluff
Oxygen (1) - Octodoc
Ivy (2) - April, ykal
Fluff (2) - Sporty, Zenge
Leading: @violetvett
Ineligible: samac
15/20
missing:
@Viscernable @IvyMoose @WorthlessOxygen @Truenamer @potentialsheltervet
Day close: <20 MINUTES 10PM EST/9PM CST/7PM FANTASYLAND
What if I stop ignoring the pings and reconsider Vis
Truenamer
Toothy, Furry Villager
Vi's in my hot seat but I also find Octo's play pattern weirdly unsettlingContingency vote Octo.
I don't like how they keeping popping in and out of the thread. It makes me uncomfy.
Lol, weren't you involved in those noob game ties?🧠🧠🧠🧠
Part of me wished I was a sub, part of me can’t keep up with the chat and thinks this is utter chaos. Disappointed in y’all allowing a 3-way tie last night. Tsk tsk tsk. Good luck village!
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I raised you well 😍🧠🧠🧠🧠
Part of me wished I was a sub, part of me can’t keep up with the chat and thinks this is utter chaos. Disappointed in y’all allowing a 3-way tie last night. Tsk tsk tsk. Good luck village!
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Currently editing my reads list.. Will share when done
🧠🧠🧠Lol, weren't you involved in those noob game ties?
I was the one screaming and begging people to not let it tie. But technically I guess I was
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Sporty - I haven’t followed a lot of her reasoning and feel it’s been disingenuous or reaching at times, especially the push on True for posts that imo were very in line with what I expect from a village noob who just saw their partner play in a noob game where similar things were said all the time. It just seemed opportunistically jumping on posts that are an easy push because if you don’t consider the context they sound super wolfy, but I think village, sincerely wolfhunting Sporty wouldn’t jump on them.Pls explain freshly why those 5
These are super wolfy
April - this POE feels like going for low-hanging fruit, and she says she didn’t feel at least one of them (fluffy) had done anything sketchy, but everyone else had done enough to remove themselves from the POE. There’s some people I don’t understand why she feels confident enough to remove from the POE when the bar out is high enough there are players she hasn’t felt have done anything sketchy still in it. I’ve gone back and forth on her tone, since it has sounded genuine and stream-of-consciousness but also hedgey, but I am concerned about what others have said about her generally seeming to echo and go with safe takes. I think I remember her saying some WIFOM stuff about the Dubz nk that pinged me, but I might be confusing her with stoat who also did.
My POE is feeling like kal, violet, Ivy, zuri, Octo, meats, Oxy, fluff
Yk - at this point there wasn’t a lot from YK and the content I do remember was them going hard after Ivy for not responding to their pressure vote, which I felt was disingeuous as I didn’t even realize it was a serious vote so idk how Ivy would have. Their response to pressure last night also felt over-reactive. I have to consider the content they’ve posted tonight more.
Fluff - largely a tone read. Just feels different than noob game and more on edge. I’m still concerned about the initial “role reveal” possibly being fishing, and even if it was purely a joke it feels like a nervous wolf trying to play it cool kind of joke. There’s been defence between her and stoat that’s felt off to me. Her response to the pressure yesterday felt pretty village, though.
zuri - felt they were whiteknighting True (or possibly even defending a packmate, but I feel good about True now and it seemed too heavy-handed for that) when they attacked me for questioning him, and the way they did so I feel really twisted what I said. They later clarified that it was over how I worded one sentence and I feel better about that reasoning, but then they got really overly reactive with Mel for being asked their village reads.
This is not nearly as helpful as I thought it might beFrame 2 Official *FINAL* Voting Tally (as of post 2324- when I closed vote)
Vis (1) - Octo
Meats (1) - AM
Violet (1) - Lawpy
OctoDoc (1) - blue
zuri () -
Sporty (2) - Mel, True
Oxygen ()
Ivy (7) - April, ykal, violet, jfluff, Vis, zuri, vmh
Fluff (5) - Sporty, Zenge, potentialshelter, alley, puppydr
April ()
Leading: *freeshrugs*
Ineligible: samac
18/20
missing:
@IvyMoose @WorthlessOxygen
Day close:10PM EST/9PM CST/7PM FANTASYLAND
Puppy and True all agreed with this theory, as well as the "wolves seered someone" theory was tossed in. I heavily disagree and this seems like speculation. I'm not going to speculate on those types of mechanics (I just stick with speculating on the names of roles since it seems pretty harmless and usually aren't super related (especially with bowling lol)).I thought the intro post specifically mentioned villagers as having scores, but I don't think we can completely rule out wolves have some kind of score system too. I also don't think it's impossible for wolves to be strikes but have a different bonus/ability. So violetvett could be technically telling the truth about their role but in a twisty way.
This might be genuine, buttttt would be really easy for a wolf to say to cover themself.Oh, crap. She's a villager.
Agreed with Ivy, this is pockety. Pshelty never replied to Ivy saying that either.I didn't vote for you? I've been trying to defend you this whole time. I don't understand why you included me in your list of people you're sus of when I did my darnedest to save you.
Octo never answered with their POE. I don't like it.It hindsight, it really didn't. Kind of just a waste, but I had a last-minute feeling that all the waffles away from violet and piling onto fluff/ivy were off. I didn't like any of the three predominant options so I quick tried to find a waffler who I've had slight pings about. Hoped maybe by some chance others had similar vote placements.
Also hi Dana! (I see you lurkin') And Ace!
Truenamer
Toothy, Furry Villager
Zuri definitely wasn't defending a packmate, since they were just revealed to be a vanillager.Sporty - I haven’t followed a lot of her reasoning and feel it’s been disingenuous or reaching at times, especially the push on True for posts that imo were very in line with what I expect from a village noob who just saw their partner play in a noob game where similar things were said all the time. It just seemed opportunistically jumping on posts that are an easy push because if you don’t consider the context they sound super wolfy, but I think village, sincerely wolfhunting Sporty wouldn’t jump on them.
April - this POE feels like going for low-hanging fruit, and she says she didn’t feel at least one of them (fluffy) had done anything sketchy, but everyone else had done enough to remove themselves from the POE. There’s some people I don’t understand why she feels confident enough to remove from the POE when the bar out is high enough there are players she hasn’t felt have done anything sketchy still in it. I’ve gone back and forth on her tone, since it has sounded genuine and stream-of-consciousness but also hedgey, but I am concerned about what others have said about her generally seeming to echo and go with safe takes. I think I remember her saying some WIFOM stuff about the Dubz nk that pinged me, but I might be confusing her with stoat who also did.
Yk - at this point there wasn’t a lot from YK and the content I do remember was them going hard after Ivy for not responding to their pressure vote, which I felt was disingeuous as I didn’t even realize it was a serious vote so idk how Ivy would have. Their response to pressure last night also felt over-reactive. I have to consider the content they’ve posted tonight more.
Fluff - largely a tone read. Just feels different than noob game and more on edge. I’m still concerned about the initial “role reveal” possibly being fishing, and even if it was purely a joke it feels like a nervous wolf trying to play it cool kind of joke. There’s been defence between her and stoat that’s felt off to me. Her response to the pressure yesterday felt pretty village, though.
zuri - felt they were whiteknighting True (or possibly even defending a packmate, but I feel good about True now and it seemed too heavy-handed for that) when they attacked me for questioning him, and the way they did so I feel really twisted what I said. They later clarified that it was over how I worded one sentence and I feel better about that reasoning, but then they got really overly reactive with Mel for being asked their village reads.
Truenamer
Toothy, Furry Villager
Honestly your dedication to sling as much mud as possible after very narrowly avoiding a yeet is impressivePuppy and True all agreed with this theory, as well as the "wolves seered someone" theory was tossed in. I heavily disagree and this seems like speculation. I'm not going to speculate on those types of mechanics (I just stick with speculating on the names of roles since it seems pretty harmless and usually aren't super related (especially with bowling lol)).
This might be genuine, buttttt would be really easy for a wolf to say to cover themself.
Agreed with Ivy, this is pockety. Pshelty never replied to Ivy saying that either.
Octo never answered with their POE. I don't like it.
Also hi Dana! (I see you lurkin') And Ace!
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