I'm only listing important/long-term things. I'm only going to have 4 or so experiences. Same with research, only listing things I actually put some work into. I'm trying to get quality over quantity and not overload with fluff.I'm struggling to find good information on this although I bet someone has asked this in SDN before, so apologies in advance if I'm being too redundant: Most specialties on the "charting outcomes in the match" 2018 document have 10 or more volunteer experiences. How much of this is minor stuff, and does it mean I should be including it?
I did quite a bit of volunteering before my clinical rotations but when asked to list experiences I can come up with 6, because almost all my volunteering was part of a handful of projects and the rest are a handful of 1-3 hour stints at places I never again returned to.
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Not a whole lot, it's just transferring your CV AFAIK. As long as you've got your PS and LoRs and whatever ancillary letters you want to send, then you're set (I think).How much is there to do? Wasn't planning on touching it until after Step 😳
It takes like an hour to fill out and then take a break and then another hour to proofread everything. It's basically just your CV in a slightly different format.How much is there to do? Wasn't planning on touching it until after Step 😳
People act like it takes 5 days and I have no idea why lol.
For those of you applying to prelims/TY, how are you deciding which programs and how many are you applying to?
I’m choosing programs near where I want to do my advanced years/cities I’ve always wanted to live in. Have a list of 50 so far, but I’ll whittle it down.For those of you applying to prelims/TY, how are you deciding which programs and how many are you applying to?
Quick question. When the latest u have to take Step 2 for it to be available to programs day 1 when they start reviewing applicants?
Probably first week of September if September 29th is the day apps are available to programs?Quick question. When the latest u have to take Step 2 for it to be available to programs day 1 when they start reviewing applicants?
I have a professional looking goatee that I will not be shaving as it's just part of who I am. If a program wants to screen me out solely based on that then they are doing us both a favorWhy take the chance? You can't be bothered to shave one day for one picture? Being totally frank, this whole stubble thing doesn't make sense for a professional photo being judged by a bunch of old white dudes. Why even open yourself up to that possibility of it somehow negatively affecting you just to avoid an inconvenience?
Not really pertinent to a conversation about some stubble but I guess party on Garth...I have a professional looking goatee that I will not be shaving as it's just part of who I am. If a program wants to screen me out solely based on that then they are doing us both a favor
Edit: damn just read in another thread that you are applying psych. Double points for the goatee and triple points for a nice van ****, bro. Party on.
Edit edit: apparently the censor is censoring a name for some grade A professional psychiatrist and lawyer facial hair. For shame.
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A goatee and stubble share a common theme in facial hair which...well I guess at this point we're splitting hairs (he he he)Not really pertinent to a conversation about some stubble but I guess party on Garth...
Edit: damn just read in another thread that you are applying psych. Double points for the goatee and triple points for a nice van ****, bro. Party on.
Edit edit: apparently the censor is censoring a name for some grade A professional psychiatrist and lawyer facial hair. For shame.
Guess I will take my 2 cents elsewhere, Wayne.
I responded the way I did because what you said wasn't really a rebuttal but a turn of conversation to a different situation entirely and warranted a "yeah,, cool, man. You sure got me!" response.A goatee and stubble share a common theme in facial hair which...well I guess at this point we're splitting hairs (he he he)
Guess I will take my 2 cents elsewhere, Wayne.
A (real) beard, a moustache, a goatee etc are all well groomed, planned, and traditional styles. For better or worse, in the eyes of many old people stubble does not really fit this category even if we as young people think it's fine.
A 30 year old interviewing with a goatee or moustache gets viewed as someone that has probably had that facial hair for a long time and it's their adult look and is professional. A person with stubble is not necessarily viewed that way, right or wrong. That's the world. Does it matter? Maybe not but shaving 1 day to avoid that stubble look makes sense It's all about minimizing subconscious perceptions by programs. It's not the same as saying "if these people don't like my brown hair then I'm glad they didn't choose me."
Also, I meant what I said about it being awesome you have a goatee while applying for psych. Dope!
I responded the way I did because what you said wasn't really a rebuttal but a turn of conversation to a different situation entirely and warranted a "yeah,, cool, man. You sure got me!" response.
A (real) beard, a moustache, a goatee etc are all well groomed, planned, and traditional styles. For better or worse, in the eyes of many old people stubble does not really fit this category even if we as young people think it's fine.
A 30 year old interviewing with a goatee or moustache gets viewed as someone that has probably had that facial hair for a long time and it's their adult look and is professional. A person with stubble is not necessarily viewed that way, right or wrong. That's the world. Does it matter? Maybe not but shaving 1 day to avoid that stubble look makes sense It's all about minimizing subconscious perceptions by programs. It's not the same as saying "if these people don't like my brown hair then I'm glad they didn't choose me."
Also, I meant what I said about it being awesome you have a goatee while applying for psych. Dope!
@flyboy3 talking about his psych patients as a resident
Fair enough, maybe I’m just subconsciously looking for any situation I can talk about my beard and all its glory.I responded the way I did because what you said wasn't really a rebuttal but a turn of conversation to a different situation entirely and warranted a "yeah,, cool, man. You sure got me!" response.
A (real) beard, a moustache, a goatee etc are all well groomed, planned, and traditional styles. For better or worse, in the eyes of many old people stubble does not really fit this category even if we as young people think it's fine.
A 30 year old interviewing with a goatee or moustache gets viewed as someone that has probably had that facial hair for a long time and it's their adult look and is professional. A person with stubble is not necessarily viewed that way, right or wrong. That's the world. Does it matter? Maybe not but shaving 1 day to avoid that stubble look makes sense It's all about minimizing subconscious perceptions by programs. It's not the same as saying "if these people don't like my brown hair then I'm glad they didn't choose me."
Also, I meant what I said about it being awesome you have a goatee while applying for psych. Dope!
Agreed about the stubble in most cases, can come off lazy or arrogant, whether that is a fair judgement or not (generational, cultural perceptions etc).
Appreciate the compliment Wayne let’s party on
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How is IM doing interviews this year? Online hybrid or in person? Sorry if this was already answered before!
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I don't have the definitive answer, but so far: radiology, peds, psych, and OB have stated online only. I would be surprised if IM followed a different path.How is IM doing interviews this year? Online hybrid or in person? Sorry if this was already answered before!
I don't have the definitive answer, but so far: radiology, peds, psych, and OB have stated online only. I would be surprised if IM followed a different path.
Maybe it’s because it’s a military program, but the peds program where I did my rotation is interviewing in person.
I think they did last year too, right? At least that's the vibe I got from the military match folks in my class.Maybe it’s because it’s a military program, but the peds program where I did my rotation is interviewing in person.
Generally, the online versus in person is not going to be so much program specific (peds versus IM versus rads) but more institution specific. I guarantee that whatever the big institutions do, most are likely to follow suit.
I think they did last year too, right? At least that's the vibe I got from the military match folks in my class.
Peds might have been. Psych has been online this year and last year.
What was the consensus on the photo for ERAS: No white coat and instead wear a suit? School told us white coat.. but they also told us Galbreath technique is first line in ear infections
Pretty much everyone I know did suit. I don’t think I saw a single white coat. Our school took professional pictures for us and we all wore suits.What was the consensus on the photo for ERAS: No white coat and instead wear a suit? School told us white coat.. but they also told us Galbreath technique is first line in ear infections
Wear a suit!What was the consensus on the photo for ERAS: No white coat and instead wear a suit? School told us white coat.. but they also told us Galbreath technique is first line in ear infections
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DittoPretty much everyone I know did suit. I don’t think I saw a single white coat. Our school took professional pictures for us and we all wore suits.
Suit for sure. I haven't seen a single person that did white coat so far.What was the consensus on the photo for ERAS: No white coat and instead wear a suit? School told us white coat.. but they also told us Galbreath technique is first line in ear infections
Absolutely do not wear a white coatWhat was the consensus on the photo for ERAS: No white coat and instead wear a suit? School told us white coat.. but they also told us Galbreath technique is first line in ear infections
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Does anyone else's photo look a little "off" when you upload it to ERAS? My school paid for us to get professional photos and I followed all the directions for resizing...the quality is diminished (which I expected), but the proportions just look different from the actual photo. Especially before I click on it, in the upper right hand corner it looks like I'm 3 feet wide.
Yeah mine is all warped, idk if it looks that way on the program endDoes anyone else's photo look a little "off" when you upload it to ERAS? My school paid for us to get professional photos and I followed all the directions for resizing...the quality is diminished (which I expected), but the proportions just look different from the actual photo. Especially before I click on it, in the upper right hand corner it looks like I'm 3 feet wide.
Does anyone else's photo look a little "off" when you upload it to ERAS? My school paid for us to get professional photos and I followed all the directions for resizing...the quality is diminished (which I expected), but the proportions just look different from the actual photo. Especially before I click on it, in the upper right hand corner it looks like I'm 3 feet wide.
Did you guys try uploading the original without messing with in first to see if it worked, like I mentioned before?Yeah mine is all warped, idk if it looks that way on the program end
I couldn't upload the full size, it had to try several progressively smaller sizes before it worked. I don't think its a compression issue though, because even before I uploaded my own photo the little anonymous placeholder image looked somewhat warped, so I'm hoping it's just the way its displayed online and will download fine for programs.Did you guys try uploading the original without messing with in first to see if it worked, like I mentioned before?
Edit: Actually just played around with this and cropping the height of the photo (leaving width alone) seemed to help! At least it lookes fine in the full image, The preview still looks weird though.
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50?! What’s your end goal? I was thinking like 12. Maybe I’m underestimating.I’m choosing programs near where I want to do my advanced years/cities I’ve always wanted to live in. Have a list of 50 so far, but I’ll whittle it down.
100% probability of matching is my end goal. Leave nothing to chance.50?! What’s your end goal? I was thinking like 12. Maybe I’m underestimating.
Kudos. How many anesthesia programs are you applying to?100% probability of matching is my end goal. Leave nothing to chance.
Zero. I want a zero percent probability of matching into anesthesia.Kudos. How many anesthesia programs are you applying to?
Now radiology, I'm thinking 50-60 for that too.
Classic mix up hahahaZero. I want a zero percent probability of matching into anesthesia.
Now radiology, I'm thinking 50-60 for that too.
it was a long day at the hospital.
Haha no worries, I don’t expect anyone to remember what I’m going into. Had one preceptor who kept forgetting and asked once a week for the month I was with him.Classic mix up hahaha
it was a long day at the hospital.
Damn bro throwing shade at us anesthesia applicants 😀Zero. I want a zero percent probability of matching into anesthesia.
Now radiology, I'm thinking 50-60 for that too.
No shade man, I respect the anesthesia grind. I really couldn’t see myself doing anything other than radiology tbh.Damn bro throwing shade at us anesthesia applicants 😀
Finally have 3 LoRs uploaded on ERAS. Now if I can just get myself to write this freaking P.S., I'll be good to go for this cycle.
pretty lame for that PD considering we can only pick one place to do an audition.Does it make any sense to do an audition that starts at the end of February? Wasn't really planning on doing any since I'm applying FM, but the PD of the program I'm interested in recently told us they almost exclusively pick from those who did an audition.
Arent rank order lists due early Feb?Does it make any sense to do an audition that starts at the end of February? Wasn't really planning on doing any since I'm applying FM, but the PD of the program I'm interested in recently told us they almost exclusively pick from those who did an audition.
The MSPE doesn't count as one of our LORs, right?
noThe MSPE doesn't count as one of our LORs, right?
APDIM has recommended a fully virtual season. There's no mandate, so programs can do whatever they want.How is IM doing interviews this year? Online hybrid or in person? Sorry if this was already answered before!
Most programs seem to be heading towards a virtual season with an optional in person visit late in the season, assuming COVID remains OK.
Some programs are planning on in person.
Someone should suggest that programs have to submit rank order lists sometime early February, then these open houses can occur between February-beginning of march so that applicants can actually have an unbiased look and not worry about "showing" or "faking" interest in a program. But hey just how I see it.....APDIM has recommended a fully virtual season. There's no mandate, so programs can do whatever they want.
Most programs seem to be heading towards a virtual season with an optional in person visit late in the season, assuming COVID remains OK.
Some programs are planning on in person.
For the ERAS experiences section, it says clinical and teaching experience should be categorized as work. But does that include volunteering in a clinic? It feels strange to put it as work but maybe that's exactly what they're saying to do.
It's already been suggested, but some programs interview into late january and early Feb.Someone should suggest that programs have to submit rank order lists sometime early February, then these open houses can occur between February-beginning of march so that applicants can actually have an unbiased look and not worry about "showing" or "faking" interest in a program. But hey just how I see it.....
I’m really struggling with writing one of my letters. I had a physician who told me she loved me but isn’t a good writer, and she said she’d happily send a letter in if I wrote it for her.
Why is it so hard to write about yourself? This is like pulling teeth, and almost feels embarrassing.
Why is it so hard to write about yourself? This is like pulling teeth, and almost feels embarrassing.
"While I was extremely impressed with Calivianya's ability to perform at the level of an exceptional second-year resident I was floored by her ability to work so well with the team while training for an Ironman competition after having been raised in abject poverty".I’m really struggling with writing one of my letters. I had a physician who told me she loved me but isn’t a good writer, and she said she’d happily send a letter in if I wrote it for her.
Why is it so hard to write about yourself? This is like pulling teeth, and almost feels embarrassing.
I have a really hard time selling myself. A lot of times, I look at the things I’ve done and think “man, I got really lucky on a lot of things” rather than attributing it to any sort of internal success. I’ve gotta figure out how to sell myself without sounding cocky for this interview season. It really isn’t easy.I’m really struggling with writing one of my letters. I had a physician who told me she loved me but isn’t a good writer, and she said she’d happily send a letter in if I wrote it for her.
Why is it so hard to write about yourself? This is like pulling teeth, and almost feels embarrassing.