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[beepboopbop1]

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They did. My reasoning here was that HW revealed themselves as a villager with an important role. Wolves might want to get rid said villager bc they want to get rid of someone with a useful role. However they didn’t target them that night I believe which made me suspicious that they could be a wolf lying about being a villager

In hindsight, the wolves probably wouldn’t have targeted someone with the hide ability though because they’re safe from being targeted directly. To get rid of them, they would have to target someone else and hope that hw was hiding behind them

 

[zuriburi]

I guess I'm confused because I don't feel like a hider can take control of a body, and I'm also not sure why you'd know that they hid with you. Because if the person knows the hider hid behind them, that's an automatic confirmation that the hider claim is true.

This doesn’t really sound like hiding it sounds like something else

 

[PlumPoppy]

Feels like cover

How? Even the mods could barely keep up with the vote. If I saw HW's post, I would've switched since we had already assumed anyone HW hid behind was safe. Now that might not be the case though?

 

[zuriburi]

@zuriburi just want to let you know that I am very confused with everything going on and you seem very familiar with the rules and such. The more familiar someone is with the game the more suspicious I am of their ability to manipulate other players. if you were a wolf the list posted earlier would be an easy way of planting into peoples minds other wolves as safe people. (Also I knew you wouldn’t be eliminated with 1 additional vote at 9:59pm)

Oh lol I forgot about this when I got to your yeet vote in my catch-up. This makes sense as a reason to vote for me (or at least more sense than anything I saw re: hw votes)

 

[zuriburi]

ah, role, I see

I don’t really think this would make much sense but it would be really funny if pxton and mothy were in a wolf pack and have just been rubbing all our faces in their wolfy love for each other this whole time.

 

[zuriburi]

From the wiki:

Lovers are players who are linked to each other. If one Lover dies, the Lover(s) linked to it dies simultaneously.

Lovers have been known to be of any alignment. It is not at all implausible to have Lovers in Town-scum pairs.

Ooh this is a super interesting mechanic. Sorry I kinda missed who someone thought might be lovers and why?

 

[zuriburi]

I feel guilty of telling hw_88 not to reveal anything and then they didn’t… if they revealed that they hid behind mothy earlier they may have avoided this 🙁

I guess, but it seems like doing this was really risky for mothy… arent they a pretty big risk for a nk now? like i think it was good advice, but I think they could have done a better job of explaining why they weren’t revealing or just do the reveal earlier. But also I was shocked at how fast it turned so ic an totally understand getting overwhelmed

 

[motheatenlysis]

I guess, but it seems like doing this was really risky for mothy… arent they a pretty big risk for a nk now? like i think it was good advice, but I think they could have done a better job of explaining why they weren’t revealing or just do the reveal earlier. But also I was shocked at how fast it turned so ic an totally understand getting overwhelmed

Village plz protect the moth.

 

[motheatenlysis]

 

[beepboopbop1]

Village plz protect the moth.

I’m worried that moth asking the village to protect them is a distraction. If moth is a wolf, protecting them would allow the wolves free reign

 

[justafluff]

I’m assuming the wolves have a group PM of all of them where they discuss and vote collectively. Anyone not in that PM would be a villager

THIS! Guys sorry I wish I had been clearer too, yes the wolves absolutely know each other! They re the informed minority, that’s the advantage they have.

 

[zuriburi]

As far as my game knowledge goes, it's because a wolf could have also received a gift and been protected by villagers (who thought they were a villager as well)?

I'm also curious as far as game mechanics go, if I didn't switch my vote last minute and thus mightyrunner7 and HW_88 would have been tied with 5 votes each, what would have happened?

Oh ties are bad. and I guess that makes sense that whole exchange looks better for veg than for hw

 

[justafluff]

Now that we've confirmed HW is a villager, why do we think wolves chose to kill miranda?

To frame mightyrunner? Who knows! For all we know they wanna confuse us.

 

[zuriburi]

I think I missed something...what does receiving a gift mean?

This feels like role fishing… I have to say beepboop is climbing up my poe here.

 

[zuriburi]

I likely missed something but could I get a clarification on how/why we’re assuming there’s a silencing action in play?

I’m pretty sure there’s not. to me it makes more sense that rider was either just not that interested in the game or had to be silent on d2 as part of their role and then Katie was just gone as confirmed by new katy taking her place. i guess if someone who’s been active suddenly goes 100% silent again that might indicate we do have a silencer but until then I’m assuming there’s not one

 

[zuriburi]

I saved SO many posts to my multi quote so I could respond to them all, but half of my responses ended up being complete misdirections. As I was reading through I felt the same about HW being sus but then came upon the write up/death. This is not good, we have misyeeted two important roles. HW especially, as they could essentially clear a new villager every night.

I feel particularly bad because earlier in the day I encouraged HW to keep who he hid behind a secret lest we give out more information to the wolves..... but for some reason my brain didn't wrap itself around the fact that wolves would know who is villager or not. Ugh. Idk why brain did not process properly. I think I'm usually such a cautious player that I wanted us to be careful, but in this case having the open communication would have made sense. If you're reading this HW, I'm sorry - that was a complete misdirection on my part, and I don't know if my comment was part of your decision/hesitancy to reveal your target.

Given that HW was villager/innocent, that effectively clears mothy (HW had no reason to lie).

I just wanted to sum up here all the night actions that we now have claims of:

N1:

• HW - saw a creature so hideous that they were frozen with horror and could not move (roleblocked?)
• Veggie - attempted to give pxton a gift, but could not (roleblocked?)
• pxton - "I felt off on N1, had like an outer body experience or something, and couldn't be found or moved or anything" (roleblocked?)
• ??? - jailer type role that hid someone away

N2:

• HW - hid behind mothy; also received a gift and was protected last night
• mothy - was informed that HW hid behind her
• Veggie - gave HW a gift
• ????? - protected HW (HW said "Can confirm I did have a gift and someone protect me last night, I didn't know who either was from" which makes it sound like there were TWO SEPARATE actions performed on them)
• Gecko - saw a creature so hideous that they were frozen with horror and could not move (roleblocked)
• ??? - jailer type role that hid someone away

It sounds like HW and @GeckoKD6 had the same text when they were roleblocked. @pxton can you confirm what your text was?
(If this is against the rules someone please stop me - not sure if we can share the verbiage from the night PMs).
EDIT: Checked rules. Def against rules. Do not share your PM texts!







The statement "I'll be in my workshop" sounds like a clue to Veggie's role.

This breakdown is super helpful. Just to clarify my thinking on why I feel hw was right to avoid naming mothy, I think this early in the game it made sense for hw to be slow to reveal villagers unless they were at risk of being yeeted, that way the wolves wouldn’t know which villagers hw could easily clear and hw could have diverted potential misyeets as they cropped up. but also all that would require that hw could earn everyone’s trust in the first place.

 

[justafluff]

I guess, but it seems like doing this was really risky for mothy… arent they a pretty big risk for a nk now? like i think it was good advice, but I think they could have done a better job of explaining why they weren’t revealing or just do the reveal earlier. But also I was shocked at how fast it turned so ic an totally understand getting overwhelmed

Beepboop pointed out that wolves already know who’s village and who’s in their pack so it’s not really new info.

Although, clearing moth as a confirmed villager does make her a higher NK target, cause it’s harder to make a case against her now.

 

[zuriburi]

How would it risk them if the wolves already know who the non-wolves are? Genuinely wondering

cleared villagers Become easy wolf targets

 

[justafluff]

I’m worried that moth asking the village to protect them is a distraction. If moth is a wolf, protecting them would allow the wolves free reign

I have to say you throwing sus on hw_88 and now moth is pretty concerning.
EDIT: didn’t you say that moth was cleared for you too?

 

[justafluff]

How would it risk them if the wolves already know who the non-wolves are? Genuinely wondering

Highest wolf targets are ppl that wolves can’t misyeet or ppl with some important role.

 

[zuriburi]

They did. My reasoning here was that HW revealed themselves as a villager with an important role. Wolves might want to get rid said villager bc they want to get rid of someone with a useful role. However they didn’t target them that night I believe which made me suspicious that they could be a wolf lying about being a villager

I’m starting to fall asleep, but this doesn’t make sense to me? 1 hw says they have a role that can keep them from getting killed by wolves 2 you’re surprised that the wolves don’t go after them the next night? When hw basically said that they couldn’t be killed?

 

[zuriburi]

In hindsight, the wolves probably wouldn’t have targeted someone with the hide ability though because they’re safe from being targeted directly. To get rid of them, they would have to target someone else and hope that hw was hiding behind them

ooooor start a hw yeet train ahem ahem

 

[zuriburi]

Ok I’ve finally caught up to fluff And my late night posts. Gonna fall asleep but just toss out this poe for now and see how the night looks in the morning

beepboop seems most sus to me. gecko and plum also aren’t looking great from that hw train thi out of the 3 of them I think plum’s defenses make the most sense…

seems like moth and veg are locked village..

habent given up completely on my previous suspicions matt13 and mighty, thomfeeling more sus about Matt tho that’s probably 90% cuz they voted for me.
ok night night everyone

 

[futuredogtor614]

Could I get a brief summary on what’s going on with the mighty and nemos wagons?

Catching up now. I was out and only skimming the game on my phone. I believed the HW role reveal and was not comfortable with what looking like a larger wagon on mighty, especially not being up to date on events, so I placed my vote on a different player where it wouldn't matter with a few minutes to vote close.

 

[futuredogtor614]

Ooh this is a super interesting mechanic. Sorry I kinda missed who someone thought might be lovers and why?

I believe it's referring to these

I was told someone took control of my body. Neither of us could move, but we were also not accessible to anyone trying to find us.

I had this happen to me too on N1? can 3 people really have the same thing?

 

[kaydubs]

*cracks knuckles*
night 3 closed.​

 

[eleanor713]

But like why would hw out a villager for the wolves?

The wolves already know who the other wolves are as they discuss between themselves who to kill. This means they are trying to kill everyone in this game but themselves. They already know who their targets are. If hw would’ve said who they were behind it would have given the wolves no extra information and would’ve given us a player we can confirm is safe.

 

[PlumPoppy]

The wolves already know who the other wolves are as they discuss between themselves who to kill. This means they are trying to kill everyone in this game but themselves. They already know who their targets are. If hw would’ve said who they were behind it would have given the wolves no extra information and would’ve given us a player we can confirm is safe.

Oh this makes sense. I'm sorry for doubting you, HW! 😭

 

[beepboopbop1]

This feels like role fishing… I have to say beepboop is climbing up my poe here.

This was just me trying to understand the terminology of the game 🙁. I probably should be asking my manator these questions rather than in the thread I’m sorry

 

[beepboopbop1]

I’m starting to fall asleep, but this doesn’t make sense to me? 1 hw says they have a role that can keep them from getting killed by wolves 2 you’re surprised that the wolves don’t go after them the next night? When hw basically said that they couldn’t be killed?

I realized after I posted why my logic was off. Hw was untargetable

 

[beepboopbop1]

Beepboop pointed out that wolves already know who’s village and who’s in their pack so it’s not really new info.

Although, clearing moth as a confirmed villager does make her a higher NK target, cause it’s harder to make a case against her now.

Could someone explain why we are clearing mothy pls? I thought that hw could hide behind anyone and live as long as the person they hid behind wasn’t targeted. I think I’m missing something.
I had mothy soft cleared at first but then more specifics of hw’s ability were revealed

Edited for spelling

 

[eleanor713]

Could someone explain why we are clearing mothy pls? I thought that hw could hide behind anyone and live as long as the person they hid behind wasn’t targeted. I think I’m missing something.
I had mothy soft cleared at first but then more specifics of hw’s ability were revealed

Edited for spelling

We cleared mothy going off of the rules from the wiki. Someone then brought up that wiki rules don’t have to exactly match up to our rules. In the wiki it said that hw would be safe if they hid behind a villager which we assumed was mothy, but without confirmation that the rules are the same in both our game and the wiki, hw could’ve hid behind anyone and been safe without our knowledge

 

[beepboopbop1]

We cleared mothy going off of the rules from the wiki. Someone then brought up that wiki rules don’t have to exactly match up to our rules. In the wiki it said that hw would be safe if they hid behind a villager which we assumed was mothy, but without confirmation that the rules are the same in both our game and the wiki, hw could’ve hid behind anyone and been safe without our knowledge

So to clarify, we have uncleared them? Or are they still considered safe

 

[GeckoKD6]

What about this post made you agree with Poppy??

It was the not revealing who they hid behind that made me doubt

 

[gs38]

I feel like the hw wagon felt wolfy. It’s early in the day but Gecko’s vote was second to last for hw and I feel like most other people elaborates on their vote while voting. I had a similar feeling with pxton but given the veggie/hw/pxton gift thing I think she’s a safer villager bet.

Hw had a known ability so it makes sense wolves would want them out. Revealing anything about a role could be a double edged sword, it could prove your innocence or the wolves could twist it into making you look guilty.

Edit: changed “second to last” to “second to last for hw”

 

[beepboopbop1]

I just want to say I know I accused HW and I was wrong (sorry). And I have softly thrown out that moth COULD be a wolf but with no real evidence. My goal is not to blatantly accuse ppl. It’s rather to just blurt out the thoughts I have and see if any stick while inviting discussion

 

[motheatenlysis]

THIS! Guys sorry I wish I had been clearer too, yes the wolves absolutely know each other! They re the informed minority, that’s the advantage they have.

I totally forgot that they have wolf chat. OK--so they don't know who is village and who is neutral/chaos...so, like, they could totally kill a bomb or something?

I have to say you throwing sus on hw_88 and now moth is pretty concerning.
EDIT: didn’t you say that moth was cleared for you too?

vibe.

I’m worried that moth asking the village to protect them is a distraction. If moth is a wolf, protecting them would allow the wolves free reign

or protecting moth is protecting an important role.

Highest wolf targets are ppl that wolves can’t misyeet or ppl with some important role.

also this.

cleared villagers Become easy wolf targets

yup.

I don’t really think this would make much sense but it would be really funny if pxton and mothy were in a wolf pack and have just been rubbing all our faces in their wolfy love for each other this whole time.

lololol if only I was that clever. This moth is not a wolf moth. HW hid behind me and was safe. Only safe if they hide behind a villager means if I was a wolf, HW wouldn't have been safe.

 

[motheatenlysis]

I need to go clean up my real life mess from last night, but will type out my thoughts on who I think is wolf once results of N3 are posted.

 

[WildZoo]

Night Three

And where He went, rest vanished, for the small hours were rent with the screams of nightmare.

By the time the Great Old Ones ascended, He had already been walking the Earth for quite some time. The Outer Gods often kept their distance, preferring to influence the Humans with indirect means, or were otherwise banished to the stars. But Nyarlathotep was different. He took a human form at times, interacting with people directly, gathering worshippers as he went. Above all else it was his magical instruments that drew them near and brought them into his inner circle.

And it was true that the things he created were wonderful, but also terrible, and in the wrong hands they could drive men to madness. It was not an accident that he was called The Crawling Chaos. The death and destruction that other gods might pursue bored him. Only spreading insanity could please him, and he would use any means of deception and manipulation to achieve that goal.

He was toiling away at a new creation and had just completed it when he was approached from behind, not quietly, but with great thunderous steps. He turned and realized that he recognized his visitor, and it was not someone he was keen to come across at night. Some beings were just too sadistic for his taste.

"What brings you to my workshop?" he asked the intruder in one of the strange alien tongues that the cosmic entities shared. The other raised his thick arms, giving no verbal reply, but projecting the feeling of a wicked smile into the tinkerer's brain. Nyarlathotep was vulnerable in his human form, and the other was stronger, and fueled by wickedness and depravity. The transformation process was not fast enough to save him. What remained when the intruder was done with him is too gruesome to describe. The instrument he had made lay on his workshop bench, its fresh coat of paint shining in the moonlight.

Spoiler: Dead is...

@VeggieTrex , who was Nyarlathotep, a villager who could make a magical item each night.

~~~~~

Then the shadowed outlines began to take shape, and I perceived that the squirming entity bore some remote resemblance to a human form laid flat on its belly.

Not all among the Great Old Ones are brutal, malicious beasts. Yes, sacrifices must still be made, but for entities like Yig, this was merely a necessity for survival and not something to be enjoyed. Outside of those autumnal feedings, he was quite at peace with the neighboring human tribes, and rarely caused them any harm. They worshipped him for his mild manner, and he ignored them as long as they did not threaten his serpentine children.

Perhaps it was this attitude that drew the gaze of a fellow Great Old One, and put a target on his scaled back. Already once he had died, and been reincarnated, but for whatever reason this had not made him more cautious. Yig was so busy watching over someone else that he did not notice the figure approaching him until it was too late. The sharp talons were already in his skull, siphoning him dry.

Spoiler: Dead is...

@beepboopbop1, who was originally Ghast, a villager who would take on the role of the first dead village PR, and became Yig, a villager who could protect one player every night.

~~~~

One among them blinked in the sunlight, unsure of what exactly had happened to them the night before, but unharmed.


It is now Day 4. This will be an extended cycle - vote closes TOMORROW, January 1st, 2023, at 10pm EST.

Happy New Year!

16 players remain

Spoiler: Roster

@eleanor713
@PlumPoppy
@pulley
@gs38
@futuredogtor614
katiemcat > @katykat2222
@Wondalfy
@mightyrunner7
@pxton
@chicandtoughness
@motheatenlysis
@CaptNemo
@zuriburi
@matthirten13
@GeckoKD6
@justafluff

LOCKED BACK IN THEIR WORLDLY PRISON

@holdthemayo - Human - neutral
@cobrien01 - Yig - Protector
@riderrapidash - Cthylla - watcher
@miranda920 - Tsathoggua - Innocent Child
@HW_88 - Shudde M'ell - Hider
@VeggieTrex - Nyarlathotep - Tinker
@beepboopbop1 - Ghast - Universal Backup > Yig - Protector

Manators

@Animal Midwife
@supershorty
@SportPonies
@LuminousLag
@Zenge142
@potentialsheltervet
@Barkley13
@WonderingStudent
@SARdoghandler
@mkg323
@Santygrass
@Dinashadow
@alleycat03
@Viscernable
@Aprilthearab
@genny
@samac
@NateTheLesser

~Table of Contents~​

 

[zuriburi]

I just want to say I know I accused HW and I was wrong (sorry). And I have softly thrown out that moth COULD be a wolf but with no real evidence. My goal is not to blatantly accuse ppl. It’s rather to just blurt out the thoughts I have and see if any stick while inviting discussion

And not trying to give you a hard time but that last sentence basically describes how I’d expect wolves to play this game.

 

[justafluff]

Night Three


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And where He went, rest vanished, for the small hours were rent with the screams of nightmare.

By the time the Great Old Ones ascended, He had already been walking the Earth for quite some time. The Outer Gods often kept their distance, preferring to influence the Humans with indirect means, or were otherwise banished to the stars. But Nyarlathotep was different. He took a human form at times, interacting with people directly, gathering worshippers as he went. Above all else it was his magical instruments that drew them near and brought them into his inner circle.

And it was true that the things he created were wonderful, but also terrible, and in the wrong hands they could drive men to madness. It was not an accident that he was called The Crawling Chaos. The death and destruction that other gods might pursue bored him. Only spreading insanity could please him, and he would use any means of deception and manipulation to achieve that goal.

He was toiling away at a new creation and had just completed it when he was approached from behind, not quietly, but with great thunderous steps. He turned and realized that he recognized his visitor, and it was not someone he was keen to come across at night. Some beings were just too sadistic for his taste.

"What brings you to my workshop?" he asked the intruder in one of the strange alien tongues that the cosmic entities shared. The other raised his thick arms, giving no verbal reply, but projecting the feeling of a wicked smile into the tinkerer's brain. Nyarlathotep was vulnerable in his human form, and the other was stronger, and fueled by wickedness and depravity. The transformation process was not fast enough to save him. What remained when the intruder was done with him is too gruesome to describe. The instrument he had made lay on his workshop bench, its fresh coat of paint shining in the moonlight.

Spoiler: Dead is...

@VeggieTrex , who was Nyarlathotep, a villager who could make a magical item each night.

~~~~~

View attachment 364074
Then the shadowed outlines began to take shape, and I perceived that the squirming entity bore some remote resemblance to a human form laid flat on its belly.

Not all among the Great Old Ones are brutal, malicious beasts. Yes, sacrifices must still be made, but for entities like Yig, this was merely a necessity for survival and not something to be enjoyed. Outside of those autumnal feedings, he was quite at peace with the neighboring human tribes, and rarely caused them any harm. They worshipped him for his mild manner, and he ignored them as long as they did not threaten his serpentine children.

Perhaps it was this attitude that drew the gaze of a fellow Great Old One, and put a target on his scaled back. Already once he had died, and been reincarnated, but for whatever reason this had not made him more cautious. Yig was so busy watching over someone else that he did not notice the figure approaching him until it was too late. The sharp talons were already in his skull, siphoning him dry.

Spoiler: Dead is...

@beepboopbop1, who was originally Ghast, a villager who would take on the role of the first dead village PR, and became Yig, a villager who could protect one player every night.

~~~~

One among them blinked in the sunlight, unsure of what exactly had happened to them the night before, but unharmed.


It is now Day 4. This will be an extended cycle - vote closes TOMORROW, January 1st, 2023, at 10pm EST.

Happy New Year!

16 players remain

Spoiler: Roster

@eleanor713
@PlumPoppy
@pulley
@gs38
@futuredogtor614
katiemcat > @katykat2222
@Wondalfy
@mightyrunner7
@pxton
@chicandtoughness
@motheatenlysis
@CaptNemo
@zuriburi
@matthirten13
@GeckoKD6
@justafluff

LOCKED BACK IN THEIR WORLDLY PRISON

@holdthemayo - Human - neutral
@cobrien01 - Yig - Protector
@riderrapidash - Cthylla - watcher
@miranda920 - Tsathoggua - Innocent Child
@HW_88 - Shudde M'ell - Hider
@VeggieTrex - Nyarlathotep - Tinker
@beepboopbop1 - Ghast - Universal Backup > Yig - Protector

Manators
@Animal Midwife
@supershorty
@SportPonies
@LuminousLag
@Zenge142
@potentialsheltervet
@Barkley13
@WonderingStudent
@SARdoghandler
@mkg323
@Santygrass
@Dinashadow
@alleycat03
@Viscernable
@Aprilthearab
@genny
@samac
@NateTheLesser

~Table of Contents~​

See that’s what happens when we duel on each other’s powers too much. Wolves got the memo too

 

[matthirten13]

And not trying to give you a hard time but that last sentence basically describes how I’d expect wolves to play this game.

boop dead

 

[justafluff]

We also lost the protector smh

 

[matthirten13]

Perhaps it was this attitude that drew the gaze of a fellow Great Old One

Kinda sounds like a villager shot boop, given two deaths and this message

 

[justafluff]

We cleared mothy going off of the rules from the wiki. Someone then brought up that wiki rules don’t have to exactly match up to our rules. In the wiki it said that hw would be safe if they hid behind a villager which we assumed was mothy, but without confirmation that the rules are the same in both our game and the wiki, hw could’ve hid behind anyone and been safe without our knowledge

Ok, I for some reason thought that hw was the one who said that they d die if they hid behind a wolf. This changes things

 

[justafluff]

Nice catch there!

Kinda sounds like a villager shot boop, given two deaths and this message

 

[Wondalfy]

Okay now that beep was a confirmed villager, I want to say I also thought the "all town should protect me" was a little odd, especially after the hider description makes it sound like someone doesn't die hiding behind a wolf. All town should not protect 1 villager. Ik that may not make me look the best, but I also thought it was odd. Not attacking moth but just putting my thoughts out there.

 

[zuriburi]

Oh woops sorry @beepboopbop1 ! clearly I was wrong to doubt you! Also what the help is going on and how did the wolves kill 2 villagers last night and why were neither of them mothy??

 

[zuriburi]

boop dead

Yeah just saw that after I posted this. Clearly I was wrong!

 

[justafluff]

Oh woops sorry @beepboopbop1 ! clearly I was wrong to doubt you! Also what the help is going on and how did the wolves kill 2 villagers last night and why were neither of them mothy??

Maybe boop protected mothy and died instead of her 🙁