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Personally have a pretty strong inkling I'll vote for Indy today. HOWEVER, I am planning to review everyone up for yeet today (potentially more, if my headache allows) to try to come to conclusions that are based more on reasoning than vibes. Plus, I feel guilty for misreading Jay yet again.
 
I would also like us to think about today and if we do decide Indy
If they’re village who we’d like them to put forward
Yes. I'm trying not to go into my ISOs (whenever they may happen) with too many preconceived notions but I'm suspecting genny and fruit less, which leaves me with ???
 
Going to be honest, starting to get a bit fatigued out, reading people constantly without any game mechanics to back up reads, fatigues me out. Then repeating it each day.

I am still debating on which person to vote for today because I have good reason to be suspicious of all three, but will likely pick indy as they are currently my most sus.

When I get back from my grandpa's house later this afternoon, I will go back through fruit's and genny's posts to see if anything in particular stands out over indy.
 
Going to be honest, starting to get a bit fatigued out, reading people constantly without any game mechanics to back up reads, fatigues me out. Then repeating it each day.

I am still debating on which person to vote for today because I have good reason to be suspicious of all three, but will likely pick indy as they are currently my most sus.

When I get back from my grandpa's house later this afternoon, I will go back through fruit's and genny's posts to see if anything in particular stands out over indy.
It’s a mountainous game with a couple extra steps
 
It’s a mountainous game with a couple extra steps

It is also just more than WW used to be, WW used to be a total of 20-30ish pages for the entire game and was able to be kept up with while working full time and living life. We are almost double that and not quite half way through.
 
My head is at trying to help the rest of the village as much as possible, while also not revealing everything to wolves so they can't base their yeet pick on who's got the emptiest eel pool.

Don't tell them where you head is at, then you become even more suspicious, like me.

I really hope I get put up for yeet and get yeeted, because I am definitely going to make people re-look over the "cleared" "village read" peeps by putting them all up for yeet when that time comes. There is most definitely a wolf among them, there has to be, just statistically speaking.
 
Don't tell them where you head is at, then you become even more suspicious, like me.

I really hope I get put up for yeet and get yeeted, because I am definitely going to make people re-look over the "cleared" "village read" peeps by putting them all up for yeet when that time comes. There is most definitely a wolf among them, there has to be, just statistically speaking.
Don’t you break my blocc.
That’s how we lose games.
There isn’t a wolf in me, Dubz, zenge, and Rae.
I’m sure of it and will take the L if I’m wrong.
 
Don’t you break my blocc.
That’s how we lose games.
There isn’t a wolf in me, Dubz, zenge, and Rae.
I’m sure of it and will take the L if I’m wrong.

You are 100% wrong. Somewhere. I don't know with who, but I can tell you, unless every single one of my wolf reads is actually a wolf (which would be insane) you are wrong.
 
I can wolf hunt, but I don't generally get 100% accuracy. So unless indy, PSV, and either fruit or genny are all actually wolves, there has to be a hidden wolf in your cleared list. Has to be.
 
You are 100% wrong. Somewhere. I don't know with who, but I can tell you, unless every single one of my wolf reads is actually a wolf (which would be insane) you are wrong.
I mean we’ve already got a wolf. There’s likely 2 left. Those 2 left being within two of reads isn’t unreasonable.

Sometimes it’s okay to build a village blocc and work around it.
 
I can wolf hunt, but I don't generally get 100% accuracy. So unless indy, PSV, and either fruit or genny are all actually wolves, there has to be a hidden wolf in your cleared list. Has to be.
There really doesn’t.
 
Going to be honest, starting to get a bit fatigued out, reading people constantly without any game mechanics to back up reads, fatigues me out. Then repeating it each day.

I am still debating on which person to vote for today because I have good reason to be suspicious of all three, but will likely pick indy as they are currently my most sus.

When I get back from my grandpa's house later this afternoon, I will go back through fruit's and genny's posts to see if anything in particular stands out over indy.
Feel this, I’m just confused and tired and still not 100% feeling better, so I think this is for the better ….

yeet Indy
 
Feel this, I’m just confused and tired and still not 100% feeling better, so I think this is for the better ….

yeet Indy
*sigh*
I’m sorry you’re not feeling well.
If you’re village can you tell us who you’re going to put up for yeet?
 
How many votes until hammer? I was going to wait until later since we didn't necessarily want to speed run, but if Indy wants out I'm inclined to let them in this case. Wanna give them a chance to respond first.
 
convince me otherwise……
It’s not me! I’m village!

Cow Appreciation Day GIF
 
Alright

####yeet indy#####

(Stupid mobile version doesn’t let me bold)
 
Copying Jay's homework so I don't have to look at stagg interactions myself again. Looking at their individual ISOs after this.

Note: you do have to click through to the original posts to see the things Jay had quoted.

Indy and Stagg


Probably a good sign for a first-time player to blood-red Stagg well before the vote.
I will point out as a bit of a counter to this assessment that Indy's reads list came out after several events that might be important context
- Stagg's wolfy pop in
- my vote for him
- at least two players (myself and Zenge) already listing stagg in red or orange

Also keeping in mind they only voted for stagg after getting called out for Jay shenanigans, and when the wagon was already well-built. 4th vote is a pretty standard bussing spot.

However I don't find any of this eternally damning, so would put Indy's interactions with stagg at slight wolf lean.
genny and Stagg


Shrug
I truly think wolf genny would have been less meh about Stagg. Calling it a "lazy but fine" (paraphrased) vote is just not how I would expect her to interact with packmate!Stagg. I'd give genny's interactions with Stagg a slight village lean
fruitsalad and Stagg


Well it doesn't look great at face value. I'm not sure what it was about Stagg's posts that came across as "wolfy villager". One could argue that fruitsalad would be more likely to just bus Stagg instead of do this at EOD. However, SDN has an inordinately large population of players that just do not want to bus at all (even when declining to do so is to their detriment). I can't speak on fruitsalad's perspective there, because I don't know.

Anyway, I will continue to view fruitsalad as a suspect.
Given fruits expressed they don't like to bus, this is still a pretty bad look. I don't think they could realistically say they have no problem with bussing when Jay asked, because that doesn't seem to be reflected in their behavior in Mission Impossible.

However, this defense of Stagg is a lot more overt than anything they said about Clem during his d1 yeet in that game. I can't imagine Stagg would have encouraged this and he was around for a bit before fruits starting yelling his reads. Not that packmates always listen of course, it just does give me some pause. The chances of fruits actually saving stagg this way were low, so it just seems like overall an odd choice.

Still, I give fruits interactions with Stagg a slightly more wolf lean than Indy's.
 
Has fruit said which three they would submit if they were voted?

I know right now the vote is heavily leaning Indy, but if everything was even, I'm torn between indy and fruit. I'm not a huge fan of picking between DVMD, PSV, and Zenge tomorrow. But maybe those choices are an indicator that we're onto something with the indy yeet.

Zenge's conflicts have felt v/v and the people I trust aren't suspicious of him so I want to leave him alone. DVMD has been feeling better and better to me as I catch up, just tonally, and also felt v/v with zenge this morning. That leaves PSV, who I'm fine with flipping, but I just feel like we have better options. So it feels like it would be a replay of the Clem day where we all just kind of assume PSV will be the yeet but we don't all feel super strong and wish we could vote elsewherr
 
Copying Jay's homework so I don't have to look at stagg interactions myself again. Looking at their individual ISOs after this.

Note: you do have to click through to the original posts to see the things Jay had quoted.


I will point out as a bit of a counter to this assessment that Indy's reads list came out after several events that might be important context
- Stagg's wolfy pop in
- my vote for him
- at least two players (myself and Zenge) already listing stagg in red or orange

Also keeping in mind they only voted for stagg after getting called out for Jay shenanigans, and when the wagon was already well-built. 4th vote is a pretty standard bussing spot.

However I don't find any of this eternally damning, so would put Indy's interactions with stagg at slight wolf lean.

I truly think wolf genny would have been less meh about Stagg. Calling it a "lazy but fine" (paraphrased) vote is just not how I would expect her to interact with packmate!Stagg. I'd give genny's interactions with Stagg a slight village lean

Given fruits expressed they don't like to bus, this is still a pretty bad look. I don't think they could realistically say they have no problem with bussing when Jay asked, because that doesn't seem to be reflected in their behavior in Mission Impossible.

However, this defense of Stagg is a lot more overt than anything they said about Clem during his d1 yeet in that game. I can't imagine Stagg would have encouraged this and he was around for a bit before fruits starting yelling his reads. Not that packmates always listen of course, it just does give me some pause. The chances of fruits actually saving stagg this way were low, so it just seems like overall an odd choice.

Still, I give fruits interactions with Stagg a slightly more wolf lean than Indy's.
And then this is interesting because it makes fruit look a little worse than indy but I think tonally, recently, indy has felt a little worse
 
Just checking in quick before going to my grandpa's. Please try to not hit yeet close I'd like to assess all of them when I get home later. Should hopefully be home around 5pm my time so 7 central time.

Also if I have to go up for yeet to clear myself and thus get people to look harder at the "cleared" group, I'm happy to sacrifice in that way.
 
And we only got 5 minutes to discuss other vote options with indy but no one was here and ready in that exact moment :/ not feeling great about that but not sure how AI it is
 
Just checking in quick before going to my grandpa's. Please try to not hit yeet close I'd like to assess all of them when I get home later. Should hopefully be home around 5pm my time so 7 central time.

Also if I have to go up for yeet to clear myself and thus get people to look harder at the "cleared" group, I'm happy to sacrifice in that way.
THE CLEARED GROUP IS CLEAR PLS
 
I don't think reading through Indy's ISO helped me too much :laugh: They felt very comfortable in the thread until the moment when things got serious. Chaotic d1, does not appear that they're being coached by anyone, but also not dropping questions in the thread very often like we usually see from nooblets all out on their own. I don't think that's necessarily wolfy, just a mental note that we don't have something like that pure unaccompanied nooblet vibe that we saw with beans last game.

Not gonna quote every single post but a few key things came up while I was reading

I think Indy is a wolf. They tried to kill me when the Staggon was gaining steam despite having town read me.

They also seem deeply uncomfortable.
This is a good point from Jay. It's a really good point.

I agree. I would say off of behavior, least to most towny are Rae<Samac<Clem. Samac feels like a lot of smoke and mirrors but very little substance which is hard to read.

This quote is.... :thinking: because I'm not sure how you can reasonably say samac had been lacking in substance up to that point in the game, regardless of her activity on that particular day

The consistent retaliatory push on rae does lean village for me, they also had a similar take after Jay voiced suspicion of them in the quote above. Those are points in the village noob bucket.

I forgot about rae's wall post about Indy and am reading it for the first time (sorry rae). There are good points there. It's solid. And since out of any of us rae does actually know Indy's personality the best, maybe it is worth pursuing for that reason.


I’m just here for a good time not a long time at this point. I do think that those putting a lot of energy into me - fruit, Rae, JJJ - are VERY likely to have real benefit of killing a villager and distracting everyone for so long.
Again focusing on retaliatory reads, which is just classic noob behavior and I feel like more often village indicative than wolf (most wolves I feel try to placate their accusors rather than pushing them, villagers more likely to be tilted by incorrect suspicion, I don't have data on that, it's just my general impression).


I just wish I saw more overall here that seemed outright WOLFY and wasn't largely based on floundering, chaotic, and retaliatory stuff that could all be attributed to being a new player.

And the softy part of me really wants to get this right because it sucks a little extra to be misyeeted in your first game.
 
I don't think reading through Indy's ISO helped me too much :laugh: They felt very comfortable in the thread until the moment when things got serious. Chaotic d1, does not appear that they're being coached by anyone, but also not dropping questions in the thread very often like we usually see from nooblets all out on their own. I don't think that's necessarily wolfy, just a mental note that we don't have something like that pure unaccompanied nooblet vibe that we saw with beans last game.

Not gonna quote every single post but a few key things came up while I was reading


This is a good point from Jay. It's a really good point.



This quote is.... :thinking: because I'm not sure how you can reasonably say samac had been lacking in substance up to that point in the game, regardless of her activity on that particular day

The consistent retaliatory push on rae does lean village for me, they also had a similar take after Jay voiced suspicion of them in the quote above. Those are points in the village noob bucket.

I forgot about rae's wall post about Indy and am reading it for the first time (sorry rae). There are good points there. It's solid. And since out of any of us rae does actually know Indy's personality the best, maybe it is worth pursuing for that reason.



Again focusing on retaliatory reads, which is just classic noob behavior and I feel like more often village indicative than wolf (most wolves I feel try to placate their accusors rather than pushing them, villagers more likely to be tilted by incorrect suspicion, I don't have data on that, it's just my general impression).


I just wish I saw more overall here that seemed outright WOLFY and wasn't largely based on floundering, chaotic, and retaliatory stuff that could all be attributed to being a new player.

And the softy part of me really wants to get this right because it sucks a little extra to be misyeeted in your first game.
I get it, I do.
It the chaotic fun energy ending when they took heat and the hrpfh grump stuff afterwards feels like caught noob wolf tbh.
I’ve been trying not to eat them with this new leaf but I’m ready to eat them.
 
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