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Passion4Sci said:
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Unfortunately there are a lot of closed-minded idiots around that DO think all marijuana users are useless hippies and that homosexuals do the devil's bidding, etc, etc.
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jp223 said:
Hey guys I was wondering if anyone knew when they drug test you for admissions? Is it before you start the semester or before u offically accept the college. This is important to me because i like green too much so i need to know when to say goodbye. Fyi school like chicago state nova drug test and I hope to attend one.
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Disgraceful. So is anyone else who smokes "green" and is trying to be a pharmacist. It doesn't matter if it is the same as alcohol. Firstly, it is illegal (you are going to be spending 6 years in school and you can get your license taken away for any illegal use of medications- that is just foolish). Secondly, pharmacists are suppose to be respected in the health care community. Pharmacists are suppose to show "responsibility" by not abusing their power. Personally, I wouldn't want my pharmacist, nurse, doctor smoking weed and then trying to help me out. Have some dignity and don't post stuff like this in the forum...it is making everyone who is trying to be a pharmacist look bad.
 
pharmwannebe2 said:
Disgraceful. So is anyone else who smokes "green" and is trying to be a pharmacist. It doesn't matter if it is the same as alcohol. Firstly, it is illegal (you are going to be spending 6 years in school and you can get your license taken away for any illegal use of medications- that is just foolish). Secondly, pharmacists are suppose to be respected in the health care community. Pharmacists are suppose to show "responsibility" by not abusing their power. Personally, I wouldn't want my pharmacist, nurse, doctor smoking weed and then trying to help me out. Have some dignity and don't post stuff like this in the forum...it is making everyone who is trying to be a pharmacist look bad.
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How about if it's legal (Like it might very well be here in CA in a few months...) and they only use it in their off-time, like how people drink? (Or should). To me, it goes along with responsibility and personal ethics when and how you employ any recreational substance, a group in which alcohol belongs.

I mean honestly, let me rephrase your statement.

"Personally, I wouldn't want my pharmacist, nurse, doctor[sic] drinking a fifth of vodka and then trying[sic] to help me out."

Eh?
 
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Passion4Sci said:
How about if it's legal (Like it might very well be here in CA in a few months...) and they only use it in their off-time, like how people drink?

I mean honestly, let me rephrase your statement.

"Personally, I wouldn't want my pharmacist, nurse, doctor[sic] drinking a fifth of vodka and then trying[sic] to help me out."

Eh?
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it will be legal for patients with glaucoma or other medical problems correct? Then there is a medical reason for its use. I doubt a bill will pass to make weed legal for everyone. If a pharmacist use it for their medical problems and the doctor oked it, then I am fine with it. But if a pharmacist just smokes pot for rec reasons then how can I trust them not to grab a bunch out of the pyxis machine....same for any other health care professional.
 
pharmwannebe2 said:
it will be legal for patients with glaucoma or other medical problems correct? Then there is a medical reason for its use. I doubt a bill will pass to make weed legal for everyone. If a pharmacist use it for their medical problems and the doctor oked it, then I am fine with it. But if a pharmacist just smokes pot for rec reasons then how can I trust them not to grab a bunch out of the pyxis machine....same for any other health care professional.
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"...full legalization could turn medical marijuana dispensaries into all-purpose pot stores, and the open sale of joints could become commonplace on mom-and-pop liquor store counters in liberal locales like Oakland and Santa Cruz."
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-Associated Press, "Pot legalization gains momentum in California", October 7, 2009


links to the submitted propositions to the CA attorney general

http://ag.ca.gov/cms_attachments/initiatives/pdfs/i819_initiative_09-0022.pdf
http://ag.ca.gov/cms_attachments/initiatives/pdfs/i821_initiative_09-0024.pdf
http://ag.ca.gov/cms_attachments/initiatives/pdfs/i822_initiative_09-0025.pdf

edit: added alternate 09-0024 initiative link since the one above seems to work at random times...

http://ag.ca.gov/cms_attachments/initiatives/pdfs/i821_initiative_09-0024_amdt_1-s.pdf
 
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kmoogs said:
-Associated Press, "Pot legalization gains momentum in California", October 7, 2009
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if that actually occurs that is another story on its own.

Then I will change my mind and say go ahead dr smoke pot when you want to as long as you dont do it at work. For now I stick with my ideals above and it is the ideals that all pharmacists should follow.
 
pharmwannebe2 said:
if that actually occurs that is another story on its own.

Then I will change my mind and say go ahead dr smoke pot when you want to as long as you dont do it at work. For now I stick with my ideals above and it is the ideals that all pharmacists should follow.
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We've always been on the forefront of social and societal changes. :smuggrin:

I love my state, never moving out of here. :thumbup:
 
cheburashka said:
We've always been on the forefront of social and societal changes. :smuggrin:

I love my state, never moving out of here. :thumbup:
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you gosta change with the times. Or you will be like those old pharmacists who look at you and say "lexi- what"
 
pharmwannebe2 said:
it will be legal for patients with glaucoma or other medical problems correct? Then there is a medical reason for its use. I doubt a bill will pass to make weed legal for everyone. If a pharmacist use it for their medical problems and the doctor oked it, then I am fine with it. But if a pharmacist just smokes pot for rec reasons then how can I trust them not to grab a bunch out of the pyxis machine....same for any other health care professional.
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Way to avoid my hypothetical that exposes your flawed thought process, kudos.

Another one for you to avoid:

I work at a convenience store that sells cigarettes and alcohol, and I am a consumer of both.

Under your logic, I am more likely to be guilty of theft of either or both of the items. However we know in this case, IF P THEN Q does not follow.

You are either extremely cynical or you're basing your judgment on some faulty knowledge about marijuana, its users, or you're basing it on some ideology (e.g., religion *shudder*).
 
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Passion4Sci said:
Way to avoid my hypothetical that exposes your flawed thought process, kudos.

Another one for you to avoid:

I work at a convenience store that sells cigarettes and alcohol, and I am a consumer of both.

Under your logic, I am more likely to be guilty of theft of either or both of the items. However we know in this case, IF P THEN Q does not follow.

You are either extremely cynical or you're basing your judgment on some faulty knowledge about marijuana, its users, or you're basing it on some ideology (e.g., religion *shudder*).
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"flawed" I beg to differ. I am sorry if you don't feel that pharmacists should be held to a higher degree...that might just be your personal belief. This has nothing to do with religion, faulty knowledge, etc. I am sorry that you don't believe that pharmacists shouldn't do illegal stuff considering they are looked up to by many patients (yes it is illegal at this moment in time....which is what we should be focusing on).

as for your question. alcohol and cigerettes aren't illegal? are they? no they aren't. So...you're question doesn't make any valid point.

as for these questions.....how are you going to keep asking questions based on the future. You don't know what is going to happen.
 
pharmwannebe2 said:
as for these questions.....how are you going to keep asking questions based on the future. You don't know what is going to happen.
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It's a hypothetical question.

Based on your reply, I believe that you would say, that if marijuana was legalized, fully, across the board (with similar regulations to, say, cigarettes), that you'd suddenly have no problems with pharmacists, doctors, or nurses using marijuana in their off-time?

It's not a personal belief that pharmacists shouldn't be held to a higher degree, don't put words in my mouth. But you're villifying something for no apparent reason aside from the fact that it's illegal, which would be fine, except your reply (before) seemed to suggest that even if marijuana was legalized, you would still harbor hesitancies about anyone actually using it (I.e., your pitiful example of someone taking narcotics out of the Pyxis just because they smoke marijuana in their free time, legally, at home).

Basically, your premise was alright, but your examples sucked complete, huge, hung horse genitalia.

Here let's clear this up a smidge.


Your original:

"Disgraceful. So is anyone else who smokes "green" and is trying to be a pharmacist. It doesn't matter if it is the same as alcohol. Firstly, it is illegal (you are going to be spending 6 years in school and you can get your license taken away for any illegal use of medications- that is just foolish). Secondly, pharmacists are suppose to be respected in the health care community. Pharmacists are suppose to show "responsibility" by not abusing their power. Personally, I wouldn't want my pharmacist, nurse, doctor smoking weed and then trying to help me out. Have some dignity and don't post stuff like this in the forum...it is making everyone who is trying to be a pharmacist look bad."

Pharmacists are suppose to show "responsibility" by not abusing their power.
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Wait... so you're saying that if I smoke marijuana (this is all taking place after it's legalized, whatever differences that makes to your premise), somehow I'm abusing my power? Ever heard of a non-sequitir?

Personally, I wouldn't want my pharmacist, nurse, doctor smoking weed and then trying to help me out.
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but you're okay if they do it while they're drunk, right? Because alcohol is legal, and stuff?

Have some dignity and don't post stuff like this in the forum...it is making everyone who is trying to be a pharmacist look bad
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This I can more or less agree with. I don't think it was an appropriate question, and it was probably very poorly phrased on behalf of the OP. But I thought the proceeding conversation was interesting and still is, and is definitely NOT off-topic.


Disgraceful. So is anyone else who smokes "green" and is trying to be a pharmacist.
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See, there's your ideological response right there. The same crap that people use when they say stuff about "Comrade" Obama, or whatever your poison is. Disgrace, in this case, is an adjective you're assigning based on a prejudice you harbor for people who smoke marijuana for whatever reason that might be, or just your personal opinion.

But really, with your attitude, I surely hope you never imbibe alcohol and I really hope you've never, ever even looked at a cigarette.
 
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pharmwannebe2 said:
it will be legal for patients with glaucoma or other medical problems correct? Then there is a medical reason for its use. I doubt a bill will pass to make weed legal for everyone. If a pharmacist use it for their medical problems and the doctor oked it, then I am fine with it. But if a pharmacist just smokes pot for rec reasons then how can I trust them not to grab a bunch out of the pyxis machine....same for any other health care professional.
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This example was given before we even discussed the "future". As you can see by the post...I wasn't even mentioning the future....I was/still am very doubtful it will pass without a medical need. I was talking about present times when I said I wouldn't trust someone who is doing something illegal to not take drugs out of pyxis. If someone is doing something illegal...I wouldn't trust them. I am sure everyone would have their doubts about people who do something illegal in your pharmacy considering it is your license on the line.

Like I said before...if rules change...we have to all change with them.
 
pharmwannebe2 said:
This example was given before we even discussed the "future". As you can see by the post...I wasn't even mentioning the future....I was/still am very doubtful it will pass without a medical need. I was talking about present times when I said I wouldn't trust someone who is doing something illegal to not take drugs out of pyxis. If someone is doing something illegal...I wouldn't trust them. I am sure everyone would have their doubts about people who do something illegal in your pharmacy considering it is your license on the line.

Like I said before...if rules change...we have to all change with them.
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I posed my question to you in the hypothetical immediately. You knew the tense that was being used but because you're incapable of elucidating your point fully in the face of criticism you chose to evade it, and then feign ignorance when you've been called on it.

Which is fine, I guess.

Just so we're clear here, you're totally fine with me smoking a joint on the weekend and practicing Monday through Friday, as long as it's legal?

Suddenly I am not going to go into the Pyxis machine, just because legislators tell me it's OK for me to smoke a blunt? Do you assign magical properties to laws or what?

I assume you also go exactly 65 MPH in a 65 MPH zone, because captain valorous, such as yourself, would never actually violate any law. Ever. And if you did go, say, 3 miles per hour over, you'd turn yourself into the police. Since anyone who breaks any law is just not trustworthy.

I am sure everyone would have their doubts about people who do something illegal...
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Passion4Sci said:
Basically, your premise was alright, but your examples sucked complete, huge, hung horse genitalia.
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This one line is worth a million dollars, I'm putting it in my facebook status. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
 
Passion4Sci said:
I posed my question to you in the hypothetical immediately. You knew the tense that was being used but because you're incapable of elucidating your point fully in the face of criticism you chose to evade it, and then feign ignorance when you've been called on it.

Which is fine, I guess.

Just so we're clear here, you're totally fine with me smoking a joint on the weekend and practicing Monday through Friday, as long as it's legal?

Suddenly I am not going to go into the Pyxis machine, just because legislators tell me it's OK for me to smoke a blunt? Do you assign magical properties to laws or what?

I assume you also go exactly 65 MPH in a 65 MPH zone, because captain valorous, such as yourself, would never actually violate any law. Ever. And if you did go, say, 3 miles per hour over, you'd turn yourself into the police. Since anyone who breaks any law is just not trustworthy.
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I didn't say suddenly you aren't going into the pyxis machine just because of some law. Regardless....if you seem good or bad or smoke pot or don't smoke pot, I would be worried drugs might go missing. Stop trying to make it sound like people are just straight edge and non-dimensional. They are all different. But like most people...if you do something illegal chances are you are more likely to do it over and over again. Stats show that people in prison are more likely to do another crime after getting out of jail. This logic is what I am following. And I am sure most other people follow this logic. Even if it was legalized (this isn't my opinion), I bet a director of pharm, would prefer a candidate that doesn't do drugs over someone that does. It is how the world works....people might say everyone is equal but that is just b.s they tell you.

as I am sure that if I go more than 65 MPH I can be written up. and thus I would have to pay the consequences. I am not perfect but I know the rules. If I smoke pot in school...I should be prepared to handle the consequences.

I do agree that in my original statement....I shouldn't have mentioned alcohol. I really don't know what I meant by that.....
 
s I am sure that if I go more than 65 MPH I can be written up.
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yes, you can be written up. And by your own statement, we shouldn't trust you.

Speeding is illegal. If you do something illegal, then you're untrustworthy.


If someone is doing something illegal...I wouldn't trust them...
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If you do not trust someone, they are by definition untrustworthy. Are you OK with being untrustworthy because you go 70 instead of 65?

I bet a director of pharm, would prefer a candidate that doesn't do drugs over someone that does.
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"Does drugs" is so damn ambiguous. Nicotine is ONE HELLUVA DRUG, so is alcohol. is that included there? because I, too, bet the Director of Pharm in question has a single malt somewhere in his office or at least at home... So do you mean, "does illegal drugs" such as methamphetamine, cocaine, marijuana (for now), etc? If so, you owe it to your audience to specify.

Regardless....if you seem good or bad or smoke pot or don't smoke pot, I would be worried drugs might go missing.
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So hypothetically (I know you hate thinking abstractly like this, just give it a try), you run a convenience store... a Kwik-e-Mart. At this store, you sell alcohol and cigarettes (Who doesn't?!). You have two employees. Employee A does not smoke and does not drink. Employee B smokes and drinks.

According to you, you'd think Employee B is more likely to steal alcohol or cigarettes, but that can't possibly be the case, or employee theft would be through the roof. Truth is, you probably work with pharmacists, maybe even the most knowledgable, honest and hard-working people you can imagine, who light up a reefer on the weekend or after work.

You're committing a fundamental attribution error. Maybe people do it. The government has everyone trained to view "drug abusers and users" in so many shades of red but none of black or any other color. The ONLY reason cigarettes are legal, instead of marijuana, is that Philip-Morris had the gov't "researchers" by the nutsack in the 1920s and convinced them that tobacco is so much healthier than marijuana and marijuana is a life destroyer. Like cigarettes aren't... And here we are today.

If I smoke pot in school...I should be prepared to handle the consequences.
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Do the consequences include being somehow, randomly, less trustworthy? Are you really a person I shouldn't trust, just because you enjoy marijuana? REALLY?

.if you do something illegal chances are you are more likely to do it over and over again
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OK. So tonight I smoke a joint. Then tomorrow it's suddenly legal (Thanks, Arnie!)... how does that change your hypothesis? Think about it for a bit.

And yeah, okay, prison recidivism is high. Is that because of the illegality of the act itself, or is it because of institutionalization? Because it's easier to hit someone else, steal another car, shoot at someone again, than it is to try to get a job as an ex-convict? Here we delve into really complicated sociological and psychological issues. Let's keep it simple and on task: Marijuana, and if it's legal, whether you'll be alright if I toke up on the weekends.
 
Um i said "if". And yes by my own statement that means I shouldn't be trusted if I broke the rules.


how can you compare apples to bananas (cigs and weed are different (ones still illegal and one is not))?.. when i mentioned the director of pharm (look above)...I said this is based on other people's opinions since bias is a big factor anywhere you go.
So yeah I would think that if the Kwik-e-Mart pharmacy started to sell weed for medical reasons. Most bosses wouldn't hire an employee if they knew he or she was taking weed.

do drugs in this case means anything illegal

"Do the consequences include being somehow, randomly, less trustworthy? Are you really a person I shouldn't trust, just because you enjoy marijuana? REALLY?"

And by the standards you are considered less trustworthy considering schools drug tests for APPEs and if you fail...you have to serve w/e punishment they set up. If the job finds out (by random drug tests), you can be kicked out. If your school or your job doesn't let you get away with it....and will kick you to the curve what is you're spewish rant about "seeming less trustworthy" about
 
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So if you operated a Kwik-e-Mart, you would not hire an employee that drinks or smokes? So because I smoke weed, you won't let me work at the Kwik-e-Mart that sells weed? Same thing. I guess if I eat beef jerky, I shouldn't be allowed to work there either.

That's not apples to oranges, it's apples to apples.

You're incapable of thinking abstractly, I can see that now.

THE WHOLE POINT OF THE QUESTION IS THAT YOU ASSUME MARIJUANA IS LEGAL. Holy. Hell. Dude. Whether cigs and alcohol is legal and weed is not RIGHT NOW is NOT the issue I'm asking about. DId you even READ my questions up there, or just give them a cursory glance, and make up your mind on the spot?

You're flipping impossible.

Um i said "if". And yes by my own statement that means I shouldn't be trusted if I broke the rules.
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Um, I get it. Unlike you, I can think abstractly and about hypothetical situations. You are stuck on a "here and now" record.
 
LMAO

Personally, I think we should arrest everyone who drinks their daily latte because caffeine is seriously one hell of a drug. Pretty much everyone is addicted and caffeine addicts are a heck of a lot bitchier than potheads.

EDIT: I am kidding, of course...about the arresting people, but caffeine is indeed one hell of a drug.
 
my god....can't you read all the posts above

like I said before if it is legal that is a different story. However I don't believe it is going to be legal anytime soon... why the fuxx are you repeating something we have already discussed. And excuse me when you mentioned the example you didn't mention if pot was legal or not. It does make a difference you can't compare weed to your bogus literal question.

Legal- It is held to the same standard as alcohol and smoking cigs. Just don't go to work all jones up.
 
pharmwannebe2 said:
my god....can't you read all the posts above

like I said before if it is legal that is a different story. However I don't believe it is going to be legal anytime soon... why the fuxx are you repeating something we have already discussed. And excuse me when you mentioned the example you didn't mention if pot was legal or not and It does make a difference.

Legal- It is held to the same standard as alcohol and smoking cigs. Just don't go to work all jones up.
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So, if beating your wife was suddenly legalized, you would be cool with that? What if indecent exposure or grand larceny or selling children was legalized? You would be cool with that as long as people aren't doing it at work?
 
rxlea said:
So, if beating your wife was suddenly legalized, you would be cool with that? What if indecent exposure or grand larceny or selling children was legalized? You would be cool with that as long as people aren't doing it at work?
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sure if beating your wife in your spare time was legal and all that other stuff was legal. Go ahead.

But if killing someone wasn't legal. Don't go murder someone at work

(I am assuming morals are different in your example because back in the day it was commonplace to beat your wife or sell your children)
 
Everyone here needs to chill the eff out. You guys are getting wayyy too into this.
 
rxlea said:
Yes- it was legal at one time, but I find it hard to believe that you actually don't give a **** what if immoral acts are legal...like beating up people or stealing or whatever. You don't make sense.
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you dont make any sense

I said it was legal at one time....people saw a need for it and did it that way.

Now times have changed....people don't beat each other up...if my boyfriend tries to beat me I would call the cops

I will tell you why I don't give a **** what immoral acts are legal....this is because it would never happen....even if it did happen we would all adapt to this new way of life. Do you seriously think if there was anarchy and lets say the Canadians took over and told us their new laws....such as if you don't beat your neighbor you will be sentenced to death....you wouldn't follow it.
 
Chops369 said:
Everyone here needs to chill the eff out. You guys are getting wayyy too into this.
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you're right. im exhausted from arguing. Im out. you win.

Pot should be legalized and we all should do it in our free times. And no one should judge anyone else for doing weed especially schools and jobs.
 
Wow, I missed a lot in this thread ... wife beating and all :scared:
 
You guys have to much time on your hands.

And yes, I used the wrong "to" for you Passion4Sci. :)
 
God I love how potheads are all self righteous *******s who think they are somehow more 'enlightened' than the rest of us that choose not to get high. NEWSFLASH: Smoking weed does not make you smarter, less conformist, more informed, more ANYTHING other than an illegal drug user. In fact, I don't need to smoke any mind altering substance in order to explore different levels of consciousness or to contemplate my existence in the multiverse. To the OP, it's people like you who slip through the cracks, get into pharmacy school and then years later get busted by the DEA for chugging Roxicet suspension after the store is closed and selling bottles of morphine and adderall to get into games of Hold'em.
 
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God I love how potheads are all self righteous *******s who think they are somehow more 'enlightened' than the rest of us that choose not to get high. NEWSFLASH: Smoking weed does not make you smarter, less conformist, more informed, more ANYTHING other than an illegal drug user. In fact, I don't need to smoke any mind altering substance in order to explore different levels of consciousness or to contemplate my existence in the multiverse. To the OP, it's people like you who slip through the cracks, get into pharmacy school and then years later get busted by the DEA for chugging Roxicet suspension after the store is closed and selling bottles of morphine and adderall to get into games of Hold'em.
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That's another scary thing... there are so many drugs that pharmacists have access to that are even more dangerous (in my opinion) than marijuana. That's why I'm more comfortable expecting that all health care providers embody the values of ultimate health, not smoking, staying fit, etc... even if it is legal to do otherwise. Call me elitist, but I just feel like we should be held to a higher standard since we are basically telling others how to manage their own health.
 
Tinkerbell22 said:
I just feel like we should be held to a higher standard since we are basically telling others how to manage their own health.
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If that was true, no health care professional would drink alcohol, smoke cigarettes, have a BMI over 25, or skip taking vitamins :)
 
pharmD eighty7 said:
Cocaine, Now that's one hell of a drug. :whoa:
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-rick james

Quoted for truth

And tink, I completely agree. As healthcare professionals, we should embody good health practices. I don't smoke or drink not only for my health, but because I want to set an example. Perhaps it is "elitist" but at least we are healthy and at least our patients will take us more seriously if we are modeling the good health practices we are telling them they should do, ya know?

..And my BMI is within healthy range :)
 
Monalyce said:
If that was true, no health care professional would drink alcohol, smoke cigarettes, have a BMI over 25, or skip taking vitamins :)
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Precisely.

I realize it is an ideal... I'm just saying that we should at least attempt to practice what we preach... not everyone is going to, but I personally try to do it since that is what I believe. If my co-workers decide to get schwasted every weekend or take a smoke break every 15 minutes I probably wouldn't even say anything to them because I'm assuming they are aware of the consequences and make those decisions regardless. I'm not the type to volunteer unsolicited advice unless I really fear for someone's safety or major consequences.

I'm far from perfect myself... I drink occasionally because I'm nearly 23 years old, but nowhere near the point of being wasted... and I drink tons of caffeine which I'm sure has it's negative effects.

As for the BMI thing... yeah I realize some people struggle with weight issues and I know not everyone is going to be super fit- Hell, I can barely run a mile and I've been in gymnastics/dance for years. LOL I think most health professionals are within a healthy range anyway due to the nature of the job, standing a lot, moving around, etc.
 
Wow I didn't know so many people here **** roses, are we already looking for the next pope?
 
RamenOji said:
Wow I didn't know so many people here **** roses, are we already looking for the next pope?
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Um... it's one thing to act like you're perfect and have never done wrong... it's another thing to just widely and openly give our blessings to every person admitting to have an ongoing relationship with (as of right now) illegal drugs.

As far as I know.... pharmacists have by and large the MOST access to mind altering substances out of any occupation, including physicians... can you blame us for wanting sober co-workers?
 
Tinkerbell22 said:
Precisely.

I realize it is an ideal... I'm just saying that we should at least attempt to practice what we preach... not everyone is going to, but I personally try to do it since that is what I believe. If my co-workers decide to get schwasted every weekend or take a smoke break every 15 minutes I probably wouldn't even say anything to them because I'm assuming they are aware of the consequences and make those decisions regardless. I'm not the type to volunteer unsolicited advice unless I really fear for someone's safety or major consequences.

I'm far from perfect myself... I drink occasionally because I'm nearly 23 years old, but nowhere near the point of being wasted... and I drink tons of caffeine which I'm sure has it's negative effects.

As for the BMI thing... yeah I realize some people struggle with weight issues and I know not everyone is going to be super fit- Hell, I can barely run a mile and I've been in gymnastics/dance for years. LOL I think most health professionals are within a healthy range anyway due to the nature of the job, standing a lot, moving around, etc.
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Agreed...we should definitely try! Most of the healthcare professionals I see at the hospital are within a healthy weight range because, like you said, they are walking around or standing most of the day. I just can't imagine a smoker saying, hey man you need to quit smoking.

I'm not going to judge people on what they do. Honestly, people should be able to do what they want with their own lives (it IS a free country) as long as they aren't seriously harming themselves or others. But, when it comes to working with patients, I don't want to feel like some hypocrite.

And to the last poster, I don't **** roses. I am not perfect by any means. I just want to lead a healthy active lifestyle and that is a personal choice. If I can help motivate others do the same (if they truly want to), that will be a bonus!
 
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Um... it's one thing to act like you're perfect and have never done wrong...

...can you blame us for wanting sober co-workers?
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EXACTLY! I don't want to be working with another pharmacist who comes into work hungover from a night of smoking pot and drinking. I mean, what if he/she makes a mistake? We are dealing with people's lives here. We have to be alert and attentive.
 
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