Fire Emblem: Three HoWWses Game Thread

[NateTheLesser]

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Not after like 8/9pm CST

(If you're town, we've been working with flawed information all day and the wolves have known it's flawed. Is there anyone you think jumped on your yeet in a suspicious way?)

 

[StartingoverVet]

These are words I never thought I would say:
“ @Animal Midwife , please stop talking mechanics”. 🤣🤣🤣

The argument is played out. You have your view. Got it. Let’s move on. Please.

 

[Wiisp]

we still dont know whats behind the closed curtain, but im having fun playing this more like a factional game until otherwise something reveals itself that says that's a bad idea

 

[Animal Midwife]

I never debated that. But in the cases, which I suspect are uncommon to rare, where people can vouch for each being in the same faction from initial role PM, that should be taken as a mason claim.

They could be lying and both wolves,

The only possible outcome

one could get converted,

not possible if flavor = affilaiton

but at the start of the game they were in the same gameplay faction. There’s more “masons” than would be balanced in a typical game because the factional infighting makes things more dangerous for villagers, especially those who do this thing and claim factional alliance with each other.

That doesn't answer how wolves can safely fakeclaim a faction complete with vouching. That's what I'm asking you to explain.

 

[Wiisp]

i'll be back once the flip happens
if it happens early, someone ping me

 

[Animal Midwife]

Yes, claiming factions is easy. However, flips are different. If another wolf flips and they are part of TWSiD, I'm going to assume there's no infiltration and that ppl mechanically outed for belonging to any other faction are cleared.

So if a wolf claims blue eagle and flips twsid, you'll not be worried that other wolves haven't done the same with that faction or other factions?

 

[Animal Midwife]

These are words I never thought I would say:
“ @Animal Midwife , please stop talking mechanics”. 🤣🤣🤣

The argument is played out. You have your view. Got it. Let’s move on. Please.

No. If everyone else can say their piece, I can too. You may have pressured Zenge out of posting but I'm very comfortable with butting heads.

 

[Wiisp]

except, "Everyone go back and read your wincons"
doesn't imply that this game has sorcery that would make that harder by secretly putting a twsid inside a faction
but again I have a secondary win con, of which I'm going to play for both

so again, from my perspective, Fluff is a bad shot in every world

 

[StartingoverVet]

No. If everyone else can say their piece, I can too. You may have pressured Zenge out of posting but I'm very comfortable with butting heads.

Yawn

 

[justafluff]

So if a wolf claims blue eagle and flips twsid, you'll not be worried that other wolves haven't done the same with that faction or other factions?

I'll be worried, and that would be outing for whoever vouched for them. That's why since no one is vouching for Miranda rn, it's even more damning. Cause if they do and she flips wolf, they are goners too. I guess no one is safe until they flip. And I know this applies to me as well and I could be serving you lies all game. But please, role seer me, copy my ability before you yeet me and kill SAR in the process.

 

[Wiisp]

also even if u remove the factional piece of whats happening, I still can't imagine myself voting fluff here for being what is basically an open book

 

[Animal Midwife]

I'll be worried, and that would be outing for whoever vouched for them. That's why since no one is vouching for Miranda rn, it's even more damning. Cause if they do and she flips wolf, they are goners too. I guess no one is safe until they flip. And I know this applies to me as well and I could be serving you lies all game. But please, role seer me, copy my ability before you yeet me and kill SAR in the process.

So, just to ensure I'm still following, if a wolf said "I'm blue eagle" and someone else said "yes, I'm blue eagle too, " we shold yeet the entire blue eagle?

Who would be vouching for Miranda, for any reason, given she shared a name different than what Wonda said several hours ago?

Side note, I never respond to seering requests. Godfathers exist for a reason. If you can clear yourself, do so on thread for everyone to see.

 

[Wiisp]

No. If everyone else can say their piece, I can too. You may have pressured Zenge out of posting but I'm very comfortable with butting heads.

im not particular certain what ur point has been for the entirety of the day phase, except breaking down the majority arguement for what reason? Im still not certain of why u are worried about the "what ifs"

 

[Wiisp]

Side note, I never respond to seering requests. Godfathers exist for a reason. If you can clear yourself, do so on thread for everyone to see.

lmao... which is exactly what miranda didnt do, that paranoia is so unnecessary because nobody cops someone who looks townie, but idk this site meta, so w/e

 

[miranda920]

(If you're town, we've been working with flawed information all day and the wolves have known it's flawed. Is there anyone you think jumped on your yeet in a suspicious way?)

See this is tough. Wonda and chic provided reasoning and then everyone else piled on.
I think April hopping on is interesting as she was in POE the day prior. She had not previously been on my radar, but she was very quick to join on. But then again, everyone was.

 

[miranda920]

I'll be worried, and that would be outing for whoever vouched for them. That's why since no one is vouching for Miranda rn, it's even more damning. Cause if they do and she flips wolf, they are goners too. I guess no one is safe until they flip. And I know this applies to me as well and I could be serving you lies all game. But please, role seer me, copy my ability before you yeet me and kill SAR in the process.

Okay, but if everyone knew who was in their faction then everyone would be vouching for each other in all the factions and that isn't happening. Only with you.

 

[Animal Midwife]

im not particular certain what ur point has been for the entirety of the day phase, except breaking down the majority arguement for what reason? Im still not certain of why u are worried about the "what ifs"

Because I've lost too many games with people following unverified mechanics, even if the wolves were openly howling by every thread standard, and then they just tell me "oops" post game. In fact, this just happened in the last game I played. Unless you give me undeniable evidence that this is 100% a broken game, and I shouldn't have expected otherwise, I'm giving Sporty the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Wiisp]

the only world I see where Miranda is town is where Wonda got randomly redirected, or potential redirected them, of which I dont think we can do anything about, because Miranda hasn't responded to any of this particularly well

 

[Wiisp]

Because I've lost too many games with people following unverified mechanics, even if the wolves were openly howling by every thread standard, and then they just tell me "oops" post game. In fact, this just happened in the last game I played. Unless you give me undeniable evidence that this is 100% a broken game, and I shouldn't have expected otherwise, I'm giving Sporty the benefit of the doubt.

so ur answer is always to question everything and not actually give a direction? im sure this is exactly how games are won. I just caught a triple grouping of a parity cop who checked both their partners, they were all socially wolfy, I'm not ignorant to this

meh i rather not talk to you anymore, sorry

 

[Animal Midwife]

lmao... which is exactly what miranda didnt do, that paranoia is so unnecessary because nobody cops someone who looks townie, but idk this site meta, so w/e

They have multiple times before.

 

[Animal Midwife]

so ur answer is always to question everything and not actually give a direction? im sure this is exactly how games are won. I just caught a triple grouping of a parity cop who checked both their partners, they were all socially wolfy, I'm not ignorant to this

meh i rather not talk to you anymore, sorry

Question things that can't be verified. That's all I ever asked if for verification. No one has given me any. No one gave me any in the last game either.

 

[Wiisp]

meh ping me when this day phase is over
this is pointless and irritating

 

[Lawpy]

I mean i think we should just wait and see what mirandas flip tells us. AM raises a valid point that i’m thinking but we can’t just work with an n = 1.

 

[Wiisp]

its a valid point once I believe someone who has been confirmed in a faction, socially feels wolfy and flips a wolf, until then, its just empty paranoia

 

[NateTheLesser]

the only world I see where Miranda is town is where Wonda got randomly redirected, or potential redirected them, of which I dont think we can do anything about, because Miranda hasn't responded to any of this particularly well

(Since you know lore [and might as well ping @Santygrass as well], is there a connection between Tomas and.. whatever flavor miranda claimed? I don't remember the name she said. Like would they make sense to be paired up as "real flavor" / "cover flavor", is what I'm getting at)

 

[Wiisp]

(Since you know lore [and might as well ping @Santygrass as well], is there a connection between Tomas and.. whatever flavor miranda claimed? I don't remember the name she said. Like would they make sense to be paired up as "real flavor" / "cover flavor", is what I'm getting at)

other than that they are both teachers at the academy no, if Miranda is Tomas
their claim in thread was very likely random unused flavor because obviously they can't claim Tomas

 

[Wiisp]

and again whether they are in fact Tomas is something we wont know until they flip,
I have almost 0 paranoia because Wonda has been socially townie, and Miranda has not (this day phase, can't say anything about past day phases without looking back)
so we will see what happens

 

[Viscernable]

The only possible outcome

not possible if flavor = affilaiton

That doesn't answer how wolves can safely fakeclaim a faction complete with vouching. That's what I'm asking you to explain.

There would not be vouching, that’s what I’m saying. I’m confident there are many villagers who also can’t be vouched for. Same as any fakeclaim in any game.

 

[Lawpy]

its a valid point once I believe someone who has been confirmed in a faction, socially feels wolfy and flips a wolf, until then, its just empty paranoia

Yeah that’s the thing. But what’s also bothering me is the writeups are talking about betrayal.

See below from N1:

Finally, a knock on the door. She dragged them open and was greeted by a hooded figure. That smile… it seemed familiar… and it was hiding something.

“I guess I'm used to betrayals by now. But that doesn't mean I'm going to sit on my hands and let you hurt me and my friends.”

 

[Animal Midwife]

There would not be vouching, that’s what I’m saying. I’m confident there are many villagers who also can’t be vouched for. Same as any fakeclaim in any game.

Okay, so if there's no vouching, how is a fakeclaim possible?

 

[StartingoverVet]

Yeah that’s the thing. But what’s also bothering me is the writeups are talking about betrayal.

See below from N1:

There is that.

That reminds me we still didn’t get write up for night 2. I thought there might be some clues to what actually happened. Cie La vie.

 

[Wiisp]

Yeah that’s the thing. But what’s also bothering me is the writeups are talking about betrayal.

See below from N1:

Ya and my flavor write up for my vig shot was that I got redirected to potential, which was exactly just flavor

And again it doesn't matter because of my secondary win con, I'm never killing fluff, ever

 

[NateTheLesser]

Ya and my flavor write up for my vig shot was that I got redirected to potential, which was exactly just flavor

And again it doesn't matter because of my secondary win con, I'm never killing fluff, ever

(Hold up)

 

[StartingoverVet]

*******
Trying to change the topic. How did y’all end up on yeet.

From dictionary.com
“ YEET?
Yeet is an exclamation of excitement, approval, surprise, or all-around energy, often as issued when doing a dance move or throwing something.”

Seems like the opposite of a vote to kill someone.
************

 

[Wiisp]

There would not be vouching, that’s what I’m saying. I’m confident there are many villagers who also can’t be vouched for. Same as any fakeclaim in any game.

April is literally a horse and nobody has stood up for them, if that flips town, I am very likely to believe they aren't the only one unaffiliated, but I also don't expect people to keep vouching for people, that could be extremely dangerous, we don't know what wolves can do

 

[Viscernable]

(Since you know lore [and might as well ping @Santygrass as well], is there a connection between Tomas and.. whatever flavor miranda claimed? I don't remember the name she said. Like would they make sense to be paired up as "real flavor" / "cover flavor", is what I'm getting at)

Generally mods here don’t pair cover vs real rolenames as linked characters. Occasional exceptions though.

 

[NateTheLesser]

Ya and my flavor write up for my vig shot was that I got redirected to potential, which was exactly just flavor

And again it doesn't matter because of my secondary win con, I'm never killing fluff, ever

(That makes me think she DID use her redirect, but used it to make sure your vig shot went on her)

 

[Wiisp]

(Hold up)

Don't read into this, I already asked

 

[WildZoo]

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*******
Trying to change the topic. How did y’all end up on yeet.

From dictionary.com
“ YEET?
Yeet is an exclamation of excitement, approval, surprise, or all-around energy, often as issued when doing a dance move or throwing something.”

Seems like the opposite of a vote to kill someone.
************

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[Lawpy]

*******
Trying to change the topic. How did y’all end up on yeet.

From dictionary.com
“ YEET?
Yeet is an exclamation of excitement, approval, surprise, or all-around energy, often as issued when doing a dance move or throwing something.”

Seems like the opposite of a vote to kill someone.
************

Throwing something pls

 

[Animal Midwife]

(That makes me think she DID use her redirect, but used it to make sure your vig shot went on her)

Where's the post restriction then?

 

[holdthemayo]

I mean i think we should just wait and see what mirandas flip tells us. AM raises a valid point that i’m thinking but we can’t just work with an n = 1.

Stop being reasonable and pick a fight.


Grrrrr

 

[HRH Queeb SAR]

(That makes me think she DID use her redirect, but used it to make sure your vig shot went on her)

Nate did you post updated spreadsheets yet? If not no rush but I didn't want to miss them if you had

 

[holdthemayo]

(Hold up)

In parentheses


How would ice have said that differently ?

 

[WildZoo]

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@StartingoverVet Similar vibe to your "launch" suggestion actually, which I quite enjoyed

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[StartingoverVet]

Throwing something pls

*******
Was there a vote? I want a recount. Clearly this election was stolen. No way yeet won.
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[Wiisp]

Nate did you post updated spreadsheets yet? If not no rush but I didn't want to miss them if you had

They did

 

[Viscernable]

Okay, so if there's no vouching, how is a fakeclaim possible?

… by fakeclaiming. I don’t know what answer you’re looking for. Someone in TWSITD would say “I’m in Ashen Wolves” or whatever.

 

[holdthemayo]

Don't read into this, I already asked

Asked what and of whom and what did they respond?

I’m confused by this statement

 

[HRH Queeb SAR]

They did

Thanks, I'll go find them