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I recently had a meeting with the admissions coordinator of Purdue. He said to submit it early August.. In case anything goes wrong. I am also taking a summer class so I'm not sure what to do with that either... Can you send the transcript twice after you get the grade? It's Genetics.. So a prerequisite...


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When does your summer class get out? Mine finishes July 7th, so I feel like there's time to submit the summer transcript to my undergrad (yay GPA boost) and then submit that to VMCAS


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@cdoconn Mine finishes August 4th.. so I'm going to try and have everything set to just wait on the transcript verification then submit. I feel like that might be early enough but then again I've never submitted an application.


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@cdoconn Mine finishes August 4th.. so I'm going to try and have everything set to just wait on the transcript verification then submit. I feel like that might be early enough but then again I've never submitted an application.


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Yeah I'm sure this early enough. Especially if you have everything together already, and you're not like @vetmedhead haha


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So I had a question, when would be the best time to submit the VMCAS application? I'm taking a summer physics class, so it'll be after I get my transcript sent back to my undergrad, I know they said you should be S.E.T. by August 15th, and that its always better to submit it early, but was anyone else curious about when the best time to submit was?
Speaking as another procrastinator, I personally submitted on September 15 😛 BUT, as a disclaimer, all of my supplemental materials (transcripts etc.) were in and verified pretty early in the process, so I didn't have to worry about any problems with them getting in on time. Basically the only reason I submitted on deadline day was because I put off my personal statement and was putting finishing touches on it/other written answers before formally submitting/paying. I also submitted in the early afternoon that day, not at the literal last minute late at night (don't do that, never know if there will be tech issues/delays due to many people submitting at once!), so of course I wouldn't recommend waiting so late to submit those materials which take time to process. I wasn't taking a summer class but I was retaking a prereq that fall...and now that I have a PS framework I'll hopefully be submitting much earlier this year.
 
Speaking as another procrastinator, I personally submitted on September 15 😛 BUT, as a disclaimer, all of my supplemental materials (transcripts etc.) were in and verified pretty early in the process, so I didn't have to worry about any problems with them getting in on time. Basically the only reason I submitted on deadline day was because I put off my personal statement and was putting finishing touches on it/other written answers before formally submitting/paying. I also submitted in the early afternoon that day, not at the literal last minute late at night (don't do that, never know if there will be tech issues/delays due to many people submitting at once!), so of course I wouldn't recommend waiting so late to submit those materials which take time to process. I wasn't taking a summer class but I was retaking a prereq that fall...and now that I have a PS framework I'll hopefully be submitting much earlier this year.
I submitted late due to a variety of character flaws.

I also had a LOR writer who didn't submit their LOR until September 11th, so I couldn't have submitted before then anyway. I ended up freaking out about submitting for ~4 days before I submitted (yay anxiety issues!) and ultimately the reason I didn't submit sooner is because I re-read my entire application no less than twelve times before turning the dang thing in. I kept getting to the submit button and chickening out, lol.
 
I submitted late due to a variety of character flaws.

I also had a LOR writer who didn't submit their LOR until September 11th, so I couldn't have submitted before then anyway. I ended up freaking out about submitting for ~4 days before I submitted (yay anxiety issues!) and ultimately the reason I didn't submit sooner is because I re-read my entire application no less than twelve times before turning the dang thing in. I kept getting to the submit button and chickening out, lol.
Ooh. Thanks for reminding me. I'm a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to turning in applications- so that reminds me to have someone else pressure me to click submit, so I KNOW that it'll get submitted. Otherwise I'd continue to revise it until I forgot to turn it in.


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Ooh. Thanks for reminding me. I'm a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to turning in applications- so that reminds me to have someone else pressure me to click submit, so I KNOW that it'll get submitted. Otherwise I'd continue to revise it until I forgot to turn it in.


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Yeah, it definitely helps to have some people to force you to do it (or be there when you do submit). I think it's important for you to be the one to press the button, though! It doesn't feel as satisfying to have a friend pull your application from your cold, dead hands by submitting it for you.

I should also add that submitting before school starts is a wise choice. I had a lot of stressful things going on that semester and the regular panic attacks I had that were exacerbated by the application process were really not fun.
 
Speaking as someone who submitted on September 14th (just before midnight, so basically the 15th), don't do that. It's stressful and it's way too easy for things to go wrong.

Speaking as a procrastinator: submit on September 15th! Everything worked out fine for me!

(no but seriously, DON'T DO THAT)
I submitted my VMCAS an hour or two before it was due. Agreed. Don't do that.

It worked for me too, though 😉
 
Yeah I had an all-nighter PS revising session...and then did almost all of my supplementals that night too...heh. Fun times.
My PS had been done for months at that point. My CSU supplemental essays were started and finished on the 15th, pretty much the same for the TAMU and Wisc ones (but they were due on different days).

I'm actually pretty responsible, I promise.
 
My PS had been done for months at that point. My CSU supplemental essays were started and finished on the 15th, pretty much the same for the TAMU and Wisc ones (but they were due on different days).

I'm actually pretty responsible, I promise.
I'm not and I would never claim to be 🤣
I do actually have a good idea of the minimum amount of time I need to get stuff done though, so at least there's that
 
And for the love of God, make sure that you tell your LOR writers to have their stuff in at least a month early. I've seen way too many cases of letters being late, or not turned in at all because the writers cut it too close to the deadline, or VMCAS screwed up. (sorry @LyraGardenia ). Respectfully stay on your letter writers!
 
*completely unrelated* but I follow NCSU's vet school on Twitter and they retweeted a picture of a 3rd grader's goals, and it's sad to say, but the 3rd grader's goals are essentially my goals.
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A lot of vet schools have twitters. It helps keep the general public aware of what is going on at their university. And it's actually the teacher's Twitter. She had the kids do those as assignments, and then she was sharing them


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lol I was being facetious, I just hate twitter.
 
I submitted late due to a variety of character flaws.

I also had a LOR writer who didn't submit their LOR until September 11th, so I couldn't have submitted before then anyway. I ended up freaking out about submitting for ~4 days before I submitted (yay anxiety issues!) and ultimately the reason I didn't submit sooner is because I re-read my entire application no less than twelve times before turning the dang thing in. I kept getting to the submit button and chickening out, lol.
Ah, same 😛

Hah, no but really, I also had my last LOR writer not submit until around that date so I wouldn't have been able to submit before then either. Which of course, only encouraged me to continue putting the rest off until the day before/of! (I agree, definitely give them a "deadline" way earlier than the real one...)
I also had to triple-check everything before the final moment...felt SO good once I clicked submit, though. Now I just have to worry about revising since as expected, writing/editing last minute doesn't provide for good judgment and it seems kinda terrible now 😛

I finished all my supplementals way faster than VMCAS...like the day I got them (except for CSU since they needed the PPI and I applied for a combined program). Hell I stayed up late finishing all my transcript entry/experiences stuff within the first few days of VMCAS opening, I'm just a terrible procrastinator when it comes to writing!
 
Ah, same 😛

Hah, no but really, I also had my last LOR writer not submit until around that date so I wouldn't have been able to submit before then either. Which of course, only encouraged me to continue putting the rest off until the day before/of! (I agree, definitely give them a "deadline" way earlier than the real one...)
I also had to triple-check everything before the final moment...felt SO good once I clicked submit, though. Now I just have to worry about revising since as expected, writing/editing last minute doesn't provide for good judgment and it seems kinda terrible now 😛

I finished all my supplementals way faster than VMCAS...like the day I got them (except for CSU since they needed the PPI and I applied for a combined program). Hell I stayed up late finishing all my transcript entry/experiences stuff within the first few days of VMCAS opening, I'm just a terrible procrastinator when it comes to writing!

You know, considering the combined program aspect of CSU's supplemental, I actually worked on their supplemental for a long time before turning it in. I worked on that combo program essay for at least a month I think.

And haha, I'm a terrible procrastinator for everything except writing. With our powers combined we could have submitted sooner!
 
I told my letter writers that I need them in July so there's no way we have issues lol. My biggest problem is that I'll be out of state doing research for most of the summer so I have to cram 90% of VMCAS into the month of May.
 
Depending on where you're applying, I would submit earlier if possible. I submitted Aug 13 and because I submitted so early, I was offered an interview at Midwestern before the end of August. They do rolling admissions (I believe a couple others do as well). So if you get your application in early, they will look at it early. I was accepted on September 15-- so the same day the application was technically due, I had an acceptance in hand.
 
Depending on where you're applying, I would submit earlier if possible. I submitted Aug 13 and because I submitted so early, I was offered an interview at Midwestern before the end of August. They do rolling admissions (I believe a couple others do as well). So if you get your application in early, they will look at it early. I was accepted on September 15-- so the same day the application was technically due, I had an acceptance in hand.
I'm sorry, rolling admissions? Could you explain, please?


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I'm sorry, rolling admissions? Could you explain, please?


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They look at applications, offer interviews, and accept/deny/reject thought the year as they get applications.

So traditional admissions, they look through ALL the applications, offer interviews at one specific time to the candidates they like, and accept after all the interviews are complete.

Rolling admissions, say they have interview dates twice a month, they will look at a group of applicants, offer interviews for that group, then accept from that group. Then they look at the next group of applicants, have another interview date, then another acceptance date. They do this throughout the year until the class is full.

I assume, don't actually know, that less people turned in their application in August when I did, so there is likely less competition for those early interviews.
 
They look at applications, offer interviews, and accept/deny/reject thought the year as they get applications.

So traditional admissions, they look through ALL the applications, offer interviews at one specific time to the candidates they like, and accept after all the interviews are complete.

Rolling admissions, say they have interview dates twice a month, they will look at a group of applicants, offer interviews for that group, then accept from that group. Then they look at the next group of applicants, have another interview date, then another acceptance date. They do this throughout the year until the class is full.

I assume, don't actually know, that less people turned in their application in August when I did, so there is likely less competition for those early interviews.
Wow! That's awesome! I definitely need to do that (cause let's face it I'm not going to vet school normally- I'm too average)


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Do you know the list of school that do this?


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I don't. I'm pretty sure SGU, Western, LMU, and MWU do. I only applied to MWU out of those four though. There might be others, but I honestly don't know.

Schools that I'm 99% sure don't:
Purdue
Cornell
CSU
NCSU
Washington st
Oklahoma st
Mizzou
Virginia Maryland
Ohio
Penn
UC Davis
 
I'm sorry, rolling admissions? Could you explain, please?


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They look at applications, offer interviews, and accept/deny/reject thought the year as they get applications.

So traditional admissions, they look through ALL the applications, offer interviews at one specific time to the candidates they like, and accept after all the interviews are complete.

Rolling admissions, say they have interview dates twice a month, they will look at a group of applicants, offer interviews for that group, then accept from that group. Then they look at the next group of applicants, have another interview date, then another acceptance date. They do this throughout the year until the class is full.

I assume, don't actually know, that less people turned in their application in August when I did, so there is likely less competition for those early interviews.

I don't. I'm pretty sure SGU, Western, LMU, and MWU do. I only applied to MWU out of those four though. There might be others, but I honestly don't know.

Schools that I'm 99% sure don't:
Purdue
Cornell
CSU
NCSU
Washington st
Oklahoma st
Mizzou
Virginia Maryland
Ohio
Penn
UC Davis

@alohacat319, I think the schools you have listed are pretty much the only ones that do rolling admissions. Rolling admissions are MUCH more common for med schools, but relatively new for veterinary schools (hence why it seems that the newer schools are mostly the one who do rolling admissions).
 
Wrong attitude 😛
I'm just being realistic- at least for my first cycle. I'm working on fixing what I actually can help fix this summer (increase number of vet hours, retake GRE, take summer school to slightly raise GPA) but I know that by August, I can't add 1000 hours of experience. So. *shrug*. I'm going to do diddly darn good this upcoming year, so who knows what's going to happen.


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@cdoconn Mine finishes August 4th.. so I'm going to try and have everything set to just wait on the transcript verification then submit. I feel like that might be early enough but then again I've never submitted an application.


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That's plenty of time for the transcript to get there. I believe that's about when I sent mine in.
 
Ross also does rolling admissions. That's one we missed! You can apply to start spring, summer, or fall.
 
@alohacat319, I think the schools you have listed are pretty much the only ones that do rolling admissions. Rolling admissions are MUCH more common for med schools, but relatively new for veterinary schools (hence why it seems that the newer schools are mostly the one who do rolling admissions).
I thought so, but wasn't entirely sure!
 
I'm already sweatin' about my eLORs again.
I know I should probably start asking them soon to give them as much time as possible, but I'm also not decided on who to ask.

And so the stress begins. 😉
Right??? Ughhhhh. Plus apparently I had a ag communication teacher this year who was expecting that I would ask her to write a letter for me. But I've already left school, and it's such a personal thing to put in an email.


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Right??? Ughhhhh. Plus apparently I had a ag communication teacher this year who was expecting that I would ask her to write a letter for me. But I've already left school, and it's such a personal thing to put in an email.


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I'm nervous about asking people a second time (feels strange) and I have to decide what to do about my third letter.
I was thinking I'd probably use the same references this year but my file review made me wonder if I should drop my professor letter... but then I'm not sure who I would replace it with so I have a lot of thinking to do.
 
Right??? Ughhhhh. Plus apparently I had a ag communication teacher this year who was expecting that I would ask her to write a letter for me. But I've already left school, and it's such a personal thing to put in an email.


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I emailed and it ended up working out just fine!
 
Same! I've had one commit (asked him via email) and I'm planning to ask another professor via email next week. I have my physiology professor, Ag Ed professor (used to be animal science) who I went to Haiti with, and the pathologist I shadow. I haven't asked her yet. I'll probably ask her in person because I see her often. Personally to me I think email is ok, especially if you can't see them in person. I'm debating on who to ask as my 4th one. Would a 4-H extension educator who knew me through my 10 years of 4-H be ok? Or is it better to ask from an experience in college?
 
Same! I've had one commit (asked him via email) and I'm planning to ask another professor via email next week. I have my physiology professor, Ag Ed professor (used to be animal science) who I went to Haiti with, and the pathologist I shadow. I haven't asked her yet. I'll probably ask her in person because I see her often. Personally to me I think email is ok, especially if you can't see them in person. I'm debating on who to ask as my 4th one. Would a 4-H extension educator who knew me through my 10 years of 4-H be ok? Or is it better to ask from an experience in college?
I'm sure the 4H educator would be good- especially because they knew you for 10 years!!


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Same! I've had one commit (asked him via email) and I'm planning to ask another professor via email next week. I have my physiology professor, Ag Ed professor (used to be animal science) who I went to Haiti with, and the pathologist I shadow. I haven't asked her yet. I'll probably ask her in person because I see her often. Personally to me I think email is ok, especially if you can't see them in person. I'm debating on who to ask as my 4th one. Would a 4-H extension educator who knew me through my 10 years of 4-H be ok? Or is it better to ask from an experience in college?
I had two veterinarians (One equine, one small animal), my Repro prof, an advisor/head of a leadership program I was in, and the person who owned the stable which I taught horseback riding lessons at since I was 16. I think someone prior to college is just fine.
 
Right??? Ughhhhh. Plus apparently I had a ag communication teacher this year who was expecting that I would ask her to write a letter for me. But I've already left school, and it's such a personal thing to put in an email.
Don't worry, in my first time applying last year (a year out of undergrad at that point), I had to email a professor and advisor for 2 of my lors. It was a little awkward having to get back in touch with them after not having seen them for that long, but just explain yourself well, give a rundown of what you've been up to resume-wise if it's been a while since you've been in contact, etc. and respectfully ask if they're willing/able to serve as one of your evaluators.

I agree though, I'm not looking forward to having to ask the same people a SECOND time :grumpy: but I had to contact the former advisor again for a LOR for the post-bacc program I'm applying to, so I already included a heads-up that I may need one resent for VMCAS...may not bother asking the other prof again, because he was the one to submit his pretty close to the deadline and I'm hoping to get one from my internship this summer.
 
Don't worry, in my first time applying last year (a year out of undergrad at that point), I had to email a professor and advisor for 2 of my lors. It was a little awkward having to get back in touch with them after not having seen them for that long, but just explain yourself well, give a rundown of what you've been up to resume-wise if it's been a while since you've been in contact, etc. and respectfully ask if they're willing/able to serve as one of your evaluators.

I agree though, I'm not looking forward to having to ask the same people a SECOND time :grumpy: but I had to contact the former advisor again for a LOR for the post-bacc program I'm applying to, so I already included a heads-up that I may need one resent for VMCAS...may not bother asking the other prof again, because he was the one to submit his pretty close to the deadline and I'm hoping to get one from my internship this summer.
So this brings up a question I've been wondering about. If you don't get in the first time around, you have to start fresh with LOR?? They don't carry over?
 
So this brings up a question I've been wondering about. If you don't get in the first time around, you have to start fresh with LOR?? They don't carry over?
I had the same question, and based on what people have said here it seems the LOR do NOT carry over, don't quote me on that though!
 
I'm nervous about asking people a second time (feels strange) and I have to decide what to do about my third letter.
I was thinking I'd probably use the same references this year but my file review made me wonder if I should drop my professor letter... but then I'm not sure who I would replace it with so I have a lot of thinking to do.

Asking for LORs was the most stressful part last time, and I remember thinking I hope I'm accepted just so I don't have to do this all over again . . . haha. I need to follow up with two evaluators and ask them to do it again. I know that they will say yes but that's something about asking that's just so hard. :shrug:
 
Asking for LORs was the most stressful part last time, and I remember thinking I hope I'm accepted just so I don't have to do this all over again . . . haha. I need to follow up with two evaluators and ask them to do it again. I know that they will say yes but that's something about asking that's just so hard. :shrug:
I guess that is a yes to my question then. That honestly doesn't make any sense to me. How do they expect people who are sometimes then a year or more out of undergrad to get one from a professor? By then that professor is probably not going to remember them very well.

I think a smart policy would be to require one new letter but you can still reuse the previous years letters....but I guess that's why I don't make up the rules.
 
I guess that is a yes to my question then. That honestly doesn't make any sense to me. How do they expect people who are sometimes then a year or more out of undergrad to get one from a professor? By then that professor is probably not going to remember them very well.

I think a smart policy would be to require one new letter but you can still reuse the previous years letters....but I guess that's why I don't make up the rules.

If they just carried over, you could potentially be using the LORs without the writers consent. Plus, say something happened in the year in between and one of your writers would no longer recommend you for whatever reason. Now you have this letter that is not an accurate depiction of this persons view of you. I feel like that's why they don't just carry over, as annoying as it is. It would be nice though if they had an option where if you asked the same people, they were able to approve the same letter being used if they wanted.


I agree, asking for letters was one of the hardest parts of the whole application cycle. Two of mine I asked via email (I had already graduated), but my boss I asked in person. I knew he'd say yes, and he knew I was applying so it wasn't unexpected, but it took me like a week to psych myself up to do it. I was so nervous :laugh:
 
If they just carried over, you could potentially be using the LORs without the writers consent. Plus, say something happened in the year in between and one of your writers would no longer recommend you for whatever reason. Now you have this letter that is not an accurate depiction of this persons view of you. I feel like that's why they don't just carry over, as annoying as it is. It would be nice though if they had an option where if you asked the same people, they were able to approve the same letter being used if they wanted.


I agree, asking for letters was one of the hardest parts of the whole application cycle. Two of mine I asked via email (I had already graduated), but my boss I asked in person. I knew he'd say yes, and he knew I was applying so it wasn't unexpected, but it took me like a week to psych myself up to do it. I was so nervous :laugh:
Yeah those are good points. I guess I will just have to hope I get in the first time around!
 
I'd say a good thing to do if it's your first time applying is to tell your writers that in the event you don't get in you will be asking them for letters again, so it would be a good idea for them to save their letter if they want to reuse it.
 
I'm nervous about asking people a second time (feels strange) and I have to decide what to do about my third letter.
I was thinking I'd probably use the same references this year but my file review made me wonder if I should drop my professor letter... but then I'm not sure who I would replace it with so I have a lot of thinking to do.
Two out of my three LORs were from the same people all three times I applied. I thought it was actually a bit easier asking them the second and third times because I was fairly certain they would say yes, and hopefully they've kept their previous letters on file so they just need to revise based on anything that's changed. But I get that it's awkward having to explain that you weren't accepted. I also think asking people via email is fine, but keep in mind this is coming from someone who haaates having to ask people for LORs, especially in person, and put it off as long as possible each time. I'm so glad I don't have to deal with that this year. 😛
 
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