Game Thread: Meats's Reading List: WWhat I Read in 2019

[Coopah]

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Woooo anyone want to claim night cancel? Not that it matters I suppose since abilities are RNG, grrr actually, since that's the case I guess they shouldn't so the wolves don't know there's now a vanilla?

 

[PippyPony]

@WildZoo you asked...

AM
alissa
SAR
MsP
Barks
wonder
dolphin
Coop
jmoose
BC
genny
dubz
miz

But with some conditions...

If Alissa is wolf, BC goes way further down into wolf territory
If Ms P is wolf, jmoose goes further into wolf territory
If you or Miz are wolf, Coop goes more village
If genny is wolf, Barks and Ms P go more village

And there is a whole lotta bleh in the middle there

 

[Navilly]

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[WildZoo]

@WildZoo you asked...

AM
alissa
SAR
MsP
Barks
wonder
dolphin
Coop
jmoose
BC
genny
dubz
miz

But with some conditions...

If Alissa is wolf, BC goes way further down into wolf territory
If Ms P is wolf, jmoose goes further into wolf territory
If you or Miz are wolf, Coop goes more village
If genny is wolf, Barks and Ms P go more village

And there is a whole lotta bleh in the middle there

Could you explain your top 4 and bottom 4?

Edit: actually I at least know your reasons for me and Alissa, so just the others

 

[genny]

If genny is wolf, Barks and Ms P go more village

This makes no sense to me, please explain.

 

[WonderingStudent]

Johnnaboo (wolf-leaning/neutral)— I have been getting sketch vibes from her but I have been trying to ignore these feelings somewhat since I was assuming I was being influenced by her consistent lynch voting me. I’m waiting for more concrete evidence to confirm.

BC (wolf leaning/neutral)— she hasn’t done anything suspicious but I'm putting her here since I don't want to forget that when she was a wolf in the noob game, she was able to slip by us. Rather not make the same mistake again by trusting her. Gonna be on the safer side and say she is wolf leaning/neutral.

miz - (wolf-leaning/neutral) Much more toward the neutral than the wolf-leaning on the scale. Unsure how I feel about miz, as someone of course close to Nav, pushing for a Nav vote. Nav would be the ideal person to read miz and miz would be the ideal person to read Nav I would assume (sorry I contributed in some degree to the lynch; by the time I was on there was little possibility of changing the tide; additionally, I was unsure my feelings on MsP).

I think I tried asking @mizchiefmanaged for her read on BC yesterday when she was silenced so I would like to revisit this question assuming that she is not silenced today.

alissa (Neutral) - I’ve read her as frustrated villager for D1/D2. Need to ISO to see if she leans some other way for me.

MsP (???) - I don’t think I’ve played with her as villager only as wolf. She does seem different than how I remember her playing as a wolf but that doesn’t mean much.

Pippy (Neutral)

dolphin (neutral) - was annoyed that people were saying they don’t talk enough D1 which I read as slightly villager. I expect wolves to get scared from players calling them out for such things and just talking more to satisfy.

Hmm I don’t know I just love constantly being called out for not posting to people’s standards in these games. Like legit it is day one I’ve already posted a lynch vote (yes less serious but still) and caught up on the thread. Plus I have a bit more time this game to yell at people.

SAR (neutral)

Barkley (Neutral) - she seems nice in PM lol we shared pictures of roosters which of course is the best way to figure out if someone is a wolf.

WildZoo (Neutral)

Coopah (Neutral)

AM (neutral/village-leaning) - she seems the same as how she was in Basics when she was village.

- genny (village): general feel and comments seem village to me and especially that she spoke about the NK choices being on brand for what she would do seems like a strange post if you are a wolf.

I'd say it would suit me as a wolf because I like the trolly aspect of killing the runner-up to mess with village. I could see nav or coop doing the same thing.

 

[WonderingStudent]

Now I am off to bed. Haven't slept in 28 hrs so I'll see you all later.

 

[vetmedhead]

Official I Can Stop Reading Whenever I Want, Okay?! Tally

MsP (1) - SAR

1/14 voting
Missing: all the rest of y'all

Spoiler

Lynch deadline 7:00 PM PST/8:00 PM MST/9:00 PM CST/10:00 PM EST

 

[jaboo]

It’s feeling awfully echo-in here with these reads...

 

[jaboo]

Lynch BC

 

[kaydubs]

Official I Can Stop Reading Whenever I Want, Okay?! Tally

MsP (1) - SAR
BC (1) - jmoose

2/14 voting
Missing: all the rest of y'all

Spoiler

Lynch deadline 7:00 PM PST/8:00 PM MST/9:00 PM CST/10:00 PM EST

 

[Animal Midwife]

It’s feeling awfully echo-in here with these reads...

Who's echoing and with which reads? And does it bother you?

 

[PippyPony]

Village side

AM - Tone has felt on and off meh and she's been a little more MIA than usual, but the manner in which she has been pushing Ms P feels very much like village AM

SAR - really not much to go on here and tbh I had her leaning wolf after D1 for the lone genny comment, but something small made me move her more neutral. Since that thing, responses have gradually felt more village, particularly the sass over getting asked about participation

MsP - imo it doesn't make a ton of sense for her to have been holding her vote yesterday as a wolf and in second place (doesn't make a ton of sense as village either but I would think a wolf would jump on the village counter more readily than that, if that makes sense)
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Wolf side

BC - I have liked a lot of her posts when she's been pressed for more of an explanation, but her actual voting behavior feels sheepy and like she's going with the flow. I thought she was trying to jump on Nav's lynch the first day for the cred knowing that he wasn't going to die, but that doesn't really work with him flipping village

genny - had her as a village lean early on, but activity has dropped, and the way she was showing up to make single fluff comments and then dropping off again yesterday was concerning

miz - I didn't like her initial push on nav at the time or in retrospect, early game reads felt wishy-washy

This makes no sense to me, please explain.

It's kind of intangible, but I am trying to think through packs and the three of you do not really fit in my mind as a pack, especially you and Ms P after last night. I think you would have jumped on the Nav lynch much much earlier if the two of you were both wolves, so you holding back looks more like there were two villagers up for lynch yesterday vs a villager and a wolf.

But it shouldn't be a problem for you unless you're a wolf, so I'm not sure why you're pushing back on it

 

[PippyPony]

Lynch BigKitties

Can't sheep that, so let's see what happens

 

[Animal Midwife]

Johnnaboo (wolf-leaning/neutral)— I have been getting sketch vibes from her but I have been trying to ignore these feelings somewhat since I was assuming I was being influenced by her consistent lynch voting me. I’m waiting for more concrete evidence to confirm.

BC (wolf leaning/neutral)— she hasn’t done anything suspicious but I'm putting her here since I don't want to forget that when she was a wolf in the noob game, she was able to slip by us. Rather not make the same mistake again by trusting her. Gonna be on the safer side and say she is wolf leaning/neutral.

miz - (wolf-leaning/neutral) Much more toward the neutral than the wolf-leaning on the scale. Unsure how I feel about miz, as someone of course close to Nav, pushing for a Nav vote. Nav would be the ideal person to read miz and miz would be the ideal person to read Nav I would assume (sorry I contributed in some degree to the lynch; by the time I was on there was little possibility of changing the tide; additionally, I was unsure my feelings on MsP).

I think I tried asking @mizchiefmanaged for her read on BC yesterday when she was silenced so I would like to revisit this question assuming that she is not silenced today.

alissa (Neutral) - I’ve read her as frustrated villager for D1/D2. Need to ISO to see if she leans some other way for me.

MsP (???) - I don’t think I’ve played with her as villager only as wolf. She does seem different than how I remember her playing as a wolf but that doesn’t mean much.

Pippy (Neutral)

dolphin (neutral) - was annoyed that people were saying they don’t talk enough D1 which I read as slightly villager. I expect wolves to get scared from players calling them out for such things and just talking more to satisfy.


SAR (neutral)

Barkley (Neutral) - she seems nice in PM lol we shared pictures of roosters which of course is the best way to figure out if someone is a wolf.

WildZoo (Neutral)

Coopah (Neutral)

AM (neutral/village-leaning) - she seems the same as how she was in Basics when she was village.

- genny (village): general feel and comments seem village to me and especially that she spoke about the NK choices being on brand for what she would do seems like a strange post if you are a wolf.

Why is there nothing under Pippy, SAR, dubz, and Coop?

 

[PippyPony]

Why is there nothing under Pippy, SAR, dubz, and Coop?

Because we are indescribable 😀

 

[kaydubs]

Official I Can Stop Reading Whenever I Want, Okay?! Tally

MsP (1) - SAR
BC (2) - jmoose, Pippy

3/14 voting
Missing: all the rest of y'all

Spoiler

Lynch deadline 7:00 PM PST/8:00 PM MST/9:00 PM CST/10:00 PM EST

 

[PippyPony]

I have a big village point for alissa but she also just sketched me out in PM

In case anyone is wondering about the Secret Life of Pips

 

[PippyPony]

- genny (village): general feel and comments seem village to me and especially that she spoke about the NK choices being on brand for what she would do seems like a strange post if you are a wolf.

I forgot about that post, actually. I agree with that^

 

[dolphin106258]

Lynch MsP

she did say I could do it tmrw, it’s tmrw now. I’ve gone over this vote so many times in my head, but I just don’t see how she’s village. I feel like she’s been given ample opportunities by other players to make herself seem more village and it just never happened.

Also I know why Pippy is voting BC, are other people just thinking wolf because of her being alive because of the double vote thing, or is it something specific in her posts?? @ anyone who feels like answering lol.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Lynch MsP

she did say I could do it tmrw, it’s tmrw now. I’ve gone over this vote so many times in my head, but I just don’t see how she’s village. I feel like she’s been given ample opportunities by other players to make herself seem more village and it just never happened.

Also I know why Pippy is voting BC, are other people just thinking wolf because of her being alive because of the double vote thing, or is it something specific in her posts?? @ anyone who feels like answering lol.

What's your read on BC?

 

[PippyPony]

Ugh that alissa convo reminded me of the thing I mentioned last night that is bothering me about Ms P, but there was fishing going on so now I'm even more confused

 

[PippyPony]

Also I know why Pippy is voting BC, are other people just thinking wolf because of her being alive because of the double vote thing, or is it something specific in her posts?? @ anyone who feels like answering lol.

Interesting, why do you think I am voting for Kitties? Because this sounds like a defense

 

[PippyPony]

@alissa14 what is your read on dolphin as of now?

 

[Coopah]

Interesting if BC is a wolf then jboo moves way further down my suspect list

 

[genny]

But it shouldn't be a problem for you unless you're a wolf, so I'm not sure why you're pushing back on it

Because I want to make sure you have solid reasoning and you’re not just making stuff up as a wolf. Given that I’m wolf reading Barks and village reading ms p, I thought it odd that you would move them both village based on how I flip. Now I understand that you’re basing it on interactions rather than my reads of them, which makes me feel better about you.

 

[PippyPony]

Because I want to make sure you have solid reasoning and you’re not just making stuff up as a wolf.

Since when do I have solid reasoning as a villager lol

 

[PippyPony]

Come back, flipper -- you can't just drop two ?? and @ everyone and not stay around for the answer!

 

[WildZoo]

lynch miz
though I'm kind of wavering on not trusting nav's read of her

 

[vetmedhead]

Official I Can Stop Reading Whenever I Want, Okay?! Tally

MsP (2) - SAR, dolph
BC (2) - jmoose, Pippy
miz (1) - Dubz

5/14 voting
a tie!
Missing: all the rest of y'all

Spoiler

Lynch deadline 7:00 PM PST/8:00 PM MST/9:00 PM CST/10:00 PM EST

 

[PippyPony]

lynch miz
though I'm kind of wavering on not trusting nav's read of her

I am going back and forth on that too, but think I'm landing on not taking the word of someone who didn't seem to care if she died in the reaction test

 

[alissa14]

@alissa14 what is your read on dolphin as of now?

Wolf leaning but I have other people more wolfy. Miz and MsP

 

[alissa14]

Ok I’m probably not going to be on much until after lynch close.
Lynch MsP

 

[Animal Midwife]

Wolf leaning but I have other people more wolfy. Miz and MsP

Why is she wolf-leaning if she's been pushing MsP since the beginning of this game?

 

[alissa14]

Why is she wolf-leaning if she's been pushing MsP since the beginning of this game?

The whole interaction with Nav seemed off to me. I have a hard time trusting either of them though tbh

 

[Coopah]

The whole interaction with Nav seemed off to me. I have a hard time trusting either of them though tbh

What seemed off about Miz in particular? could you quote and explain for me?

 

[PippyPony]

To clarify -- sometimes Nav's reaction tests do not produce accurate results lol

And honestly with the way he left it for so long, I'm not sure it wasn't a real vote that he decided to drop later. Because as much as I don't like saying this, I can see him going for the long pocket there and throwing her a bone if she had time to play but he really didn't.

 

[Coopah]

To clarify -- sometimes Nav's reaction tests do not produce accurate results lol

And honestly with the way he left it for so long, I'm not sure it wasn't a real vote that he decided to drop later. Because as much as I don't like saying this, I can see him going for the long pocket there and throw

Only if he was actually going to be around, I don't see him doing this when he was as busy as he is. But I don't actually know what the hell was actually going on so

 

[Barkley13]

Ooh I could go for with a MsP or BC lynch today

lynch MsP
Based off other people on the two lynches

 

[PippyPony]

Only if he was actually going to be around, I don't see him doing this when he was as busy as he is. But I don't actually know what the hell was actually going on so

Really? If you think you're going to get mod killed and/or lynched before you can contribute to the game at all, which option for last words leads to more marital bliss:
"wifey is a wolf, get her" or "meh I changed my mind, she's probably cool, have fun folks" ?

 

[PippyPony]

When your village reads start voting for your village reads and your wolf reads start voting for your wolf reads

 

[Coopah]

Really? If you think you're going to get mod killed and/or lynched before you can contribute to the game at all, which option for last words leads to more marital bliss:
"wifey is a wolf, get her" or "meh I changed my mind, she's probably cool, have fun folks" ?

You clearly don't understand their relationship. They are cut throat. He would definitely get her if he could, don't doubt that for a second.

 

[Coopah]

When your village reads start voting for your village reads and your wolf reads start voting for your wolf reads

Which on which? Sorry I forgot your reads list

 

[PippyPony]

Which on which? Sorry I forgot your reads list

Mostly Dubz voting for Miz, also AM & SAR voting Ms P

 

[Coopah]

Mostly Dubz voting for Miz, also AM & SAR voting Ms P

Why are you wolf reading dubz?

 

[Coopah]

Why are you wolf reading dubz?

Second question, why are you village reading Ms P? I can see a neutral but honestly she hasn't given anyone enough to accurately read her. I don't really see how holding her vote makes sense villager or wolf. Is that the only thing you're going on?

 

[Animal Midwife]

You clearly don't understand their relationship. They are cut throat. He would definitely get her if he could, don't doubt that for a second.

I have to disagree with the bolded having wolfed against him with miz before. He had strong suspicions she was wolf and opted to sub out without leaving any concrete notes for his sub-in or on thread.

 

[Coopah]

I have to disagree with the bolded having wolfed against him with miz before. He had strong suspicions she was wolf and opted to sub out without leaving any concrete notes for his sub-in or on thread.

Ok he had strong suspicions but didn't leave notes is very different than nah I'm going to not go after her because it'll make her happy. He wasn't planning on subbing out. There's a difference between not leaving notes and backing off a read if that makes sense.

 

[Coopah]

@mizchiefmanaged you can talk now, so defend yourself. I'm not doing it anymore 😛

 

[Animal Midwife]

Ok he had strong suspicions but didn't leave notes is very different than nah I'm going to not go after her because it'll make her happy. He wasn't planning on subbing out. There's a difference between not leaving notes and backing off a read if that makes sense.

I don't know how we can be sure about whether he would've subbed or not since he was awol for 24+ hours. Regardless, my point is he's not cutthroat for miz. I don't see how "yes, she's a wolf but I won't say anything to anyone" and "nah I'm going to not go after her because it'll make her happy" are any different.