Both those community programs have good reputations and you should be good coming from either. This list looks good to me how you ranked it
I agree with your take on it. Those are all good programs, and I don't think you can go wrong with any. Choosing a "community" program may make a difference when they're not well known/have poor resources/reputation, but both Einstein Philly and MSMW are well-known in the Northeast and will give you solid training in preparation for fellowship.
If all you care about is reputation, why is UVA above...anything.
Personally if GI or Cards then first 5 should be Sinai, UTSW, NYU, Michigan, WashU in no particular order—they all have prob the same rep depending on who you ask. Mayo, UPMC to round out the top 7. But agree with @gutonc all of these places are in about the same echelon of reputation-ish so you should probably factor in other things when making your ROL. Cheers.
If your goal is to get into the top academic program in either GI or cards, I would probably group something like this (obviously not an exact science so take this with a grain of salt).
Dartmouth folks tend to self select for people who can/want to live in a rural, snowbound location. If it were in virtually any city of >200K people, it would be a "Top X" program. I loved that place. You're not crazy to rank it #1.
I’m not so sure first and second tier on your list are actually materially different. Maybe tufts and penn st could be moved a bit lower than the others but those could all be considered solid academic programs
The best place for it is where I moved it, the "Help Me Rank" thread we have every year.
Well probably:
Only care about reputation eh?
Seems reasonable.
I am a 4th year like you, not claiming insider info, but from my own personal understanding as a med student in/from Florida
it was said today lol
At the end of the day, despite being named after an Ivy League undergrad campus, it is a hospital in rural white america which makes it significantly less competitive to match at compared to some others on your list. However, they still consistently match decently for a mid tier uni place.
No it doesn’t. Look at their fellowship match list. Do not choose Penn over BIDMC for reputation/not being “the best” Harvard program if you’d rather be in Boston or want access to Harvard research network.
Fixed it for you.
Go with your gut. In my mind Penn is definitely more reputable than BIDMC but at that level, it's pretty much moot (A rolls royce won't make you any less happy than a shinier rolls royce). You're also in the precarious situation where you have to balance all that out with a partner who's headed to b-school at (what I presume to be) major MBA programs at either Penn or Harvard. You might want to just follow them. B-school is hella fun. Trust me, you don't want to miss out on those shenanigans.
No. It's not absurd. No.
What’s wrong with a 4+1 schedule?
From what their residents said, their outpatient exposure is super limited and they are forced to cram research into that 1 week when they have downtime. They said they’re working to change the schedule to address some of this, but it won’t be ready for next year’s class. I don’t necessarily think 4+1 is bad, but I do like the extra elective time the other schedules allow for. Maybe it’s not that big of a deal though?
Thank you, curious because I've heard some conflicting things
Really appreciate your insight. I feel like I’m splitting hairs with these 3, so schedule may end up playing a significant role. They’re all X+Y but very different setups. 4+1 (UTSW), 8+4 (UAB, 4+4 after intern year), and 4+2+2 (WashU, last +2 is an elective). I’ll keep mulling over them and see where my gut takes me. Thanks again!
I would probably prioritize city/reputation in your case over details like call/schedule (assuming there aren't issues with the overall culture or any egregious schedule issues). Sure, the schedule can affect your day-to-day hapiness to some degree, but you end up adapting and don't really think about it too much once you're in the thick of things. I would personally tier your list like:
Also curious about this, people seem to rank them lower than I would expect
