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Vote mkg

I’m stuck on how her posts sound like struggling-to-catch-up wolf

Unyeet zenge
Yeet mkg


So I really hate just how spread out we all are on the board. Right now the leading wagons are tied with two votes each and most people are voting. I don’t think anybody is going to join me on Z, so I am comfortable voting for MKG as I also have her in my POE. And if she is genuinely too busy to contribute then we might as well mercy yeet her? I haven’t counted her posts recently but if she is close to getting mod killed then I am willing to switch my vote again
Not to talk either of you off that vote and possibly into voting me, but she’s still short of the post minimum to avoid being mod killed. Unless she comes on and makes a flurry of posts to just barely squeak by, it seems like wasted cycle for village if she’s going to get mod killed anyway.
 
Also @WildZoo I hate your April read & I'm mildly worried that Zenge may be trying to pocket you by mimicking your reads list.
The thought crossed my mind but I'm pretty sure his list was on thread before mine was.
 
Day 2 Yeet Tally
Bread (1) - Zenge
Cray () -
Zenge () -
sunshine (2) - Pippy, Sporty
April (1) - DubZ
Sporty (1) - Cray
alley (1) - Mel
Pippy (1) - sunshine
mkg (3) - April, Visc, alley
Mel (1) - Bread

11/13
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Missing: @holdthemayo @mkg323
 
Not to talk either of you off that vote and possibly into voting me, but she’s still short of the post minimum to avoid being mod killed. Unless she comes on and makes a flurry of posts to just barely squeak by, it seems like wasted cycle for village if she’s going to get mod killed anyway.
Was she one of the people that was warned after D1?
 
Not to talk either of you off that vote and possibly into voting me, but she’s still short of the post minimum to avoid being mod killed. Unless she comes on and makes a flurry of posts to just barely squeak by, it seems like wasted cycle for village if she’s going to get mod killed anyway.
I'm slightly less enthused by this argument given that she isn't already dead.

And if she comes on at the last second and splits her posts up like a teenager eeking the margins inwards on a homework paper, are we stuck worrying about this again on D3?
 
Well, it’s *my* reads list. And it’s how I processed what you have done.
I just think it's ironic that you go around calling people's reads manufactured and then you freely slap strong inaccurate words onto your reads.

Please, tell me again how "I feel a little bit better about Sporty after seeing her analysis" (which moves her from kind of sketchy back into neutrals) is CLEARING her in any way.
 
Sorry you hate my April read tho @PippyPony . Is it the reasoning for it or just that you are reading her village?
I'm reading her pretty strong village and I'm not sure where you're getting wolf from tbh. Maybe she leveled up over the last week but she doesn't sound the same to me as the last game.
 
I just think it's ironic that you go around calling people's reads manufactured and then you freely slap strong inaccurate words onto your reads.
No not just their reads. Like literal facts are being manufactured.
Please, tell me again how "I feel a little bit better about Sporty after seeing her analysis" (which moves her from kind of sketchy back into neutrals) is CLEARING her in any way.
You moved her out of suspicion. Which could be quietly clearing your packmate.
 
I'm slightly less enthused by this argument given that she isn't already dead.

And if she comes on at the last second and splits her posts up like a teenager eeking the margins inwards on a homework paper, are we stuck worrying about this again on D3?
I guess we’ll see on D3. But I’d be more inclined to yeet her D3 if she does come on now and conveniently squeak by. But right now I don’t really feel like there’s enough there to form a solid read and if there’s a good chance she’ll get modkilled, it seems like village could make better choices.
 
I guess we’ll see on D3. But I’d be more inclined to yeet her D3 if she does come on now and conveniently squeak by. But right now I don’t really feel like there’s enough there to form a solid read and if there’s a good chance she’ll get modkilled, it seems like village could make better choices.
I disagree with you on the not enough to form a solid read because I've gotten pretty clear bad vibes from her even with how minimally she's posted. But I do see your point about not voting her unless she sqeaks by again.

My vote is staying where it is for now because there is still time for her to show up, but I'm considering moving if she doesn't
 
I'm reading her pretty strong village and I'm not sure where you're getting wolf from tbh. Maybe she leveled up over the last week but she doesn't sound the same to me as the last game.
Well I laid out my thoughts on it - specifically her cray vote and the weakness of her reads in general. Even after admitting she hadn't looked at the context of Cray's vote (which was the basis of the vote) she didn't change it until an hour ago.

I don't really have a strong picture in my head of what April sounded like last game so I'm more interested in what she's doing this game.
 
Not to talk either of you off that vote and possibly into voting me, but she’s still short of the post minimum to avoid being mod killed. Unless she comes on and makes a flurry of posts to just barely squeak by, it seems like wasted cycle for village if she’s going to get mod killed anyway.
Noted, thanks
 
Maybe you should go read the last game because it looks like you don't want to acknowledge that information exists 🤷🏼‍♀️
Not gonna happen lol I see your meta read and acknowledge it but it doesn't change my read of her actions in this game, sorry.
 
Day 2 Yeet Tally
Bread (1) - Zenge
Cray (1) - Mel
Zenge () -
sunshine (2) - Pippy, Sporty
April (1) - DubZ
Sporty (1) - Cray
alley () -
Pippy (1) - sunshine
mkg (3) - April, Visc, alley
Mel (1) - Bread

11/13
yeet close in ~1 hour
Missing: @holdthemayo @mkg323
 
Day 2 Yeet Tally
Bread (1) - Zenge
Cray (1) - Mel
Zenge () -
sunshine (2) - Pippy, Sporty
April (1) - DubZ
Sporty (2) - Cray, alley
alley () -
Pippy (1) - sunshine
mkg (2) - April, Visc
Mel (1) - Bread

11/13
yeet close in ~1 hour
Missing: @holdthemayo @mkg323
 
I don't see the point in voting for mkg. She'll probably be dead tonight anyway.

I think I learn the most about the weird movement by voting Bread. Even if he flips village, it helps put perspective on some of the late movers (ie if no wolf was in danger, the wolves likely weren't jumping wagon to wagon).

Vote Bread
 
smh y'all just trying to see how many times you can make me post a tally

Day 2 Yeet Tally
Bread (2)
- Zenge, mayo
Cray (1) - Mel
Zenge () -
sunshine (2) - Pippy, Sporty
April (1) - DubZ
Sporty (2) - Cray, alley
alley () -
Pippy (1) - sunshine
mkg (2) - April, Visc
Mel (1) - Bread

12/13
yeet close in ~1 hour
Missing: @mkg323
 
Okay MKG. If I’m going to do an ISO on bread I’ll do it to put everything in context for you.

Opening here is sketch, but that is NAI for Bread.Joking around about his height for a while. Sketch, but still NAI for Bread.Basically makes literally the exact same argument with Bob, that I was making with Mayo:Decides to get serious, looks at the Mayo/Zenge (that’s me) situation and despite making the same point to Bob that I was making to Mayo, sees the situation as me being wolfy. Also decides to call Cray Village, despite admitting to never having seen Cray be a wolf and who TF is village reading Cray that early?Explains to Cray that Mayo is asking for mods to smite him. Says he feels more comfortable with Mayo than with me, despite siding with my side of the debate, based on what he said to Bob. Then he shades Mayo to Vis who’s village reading Mayo. That’s the end of Day 1. Even without a large number of posts, there’s a lot of inconsistencies there that are fairly sketchy.
ok so then going off of this, how do you feel about sunny's involvement with bread?
 
I don't see the point in voting for mkg. She'll probably be dead tonight anyway.

I think I learn the most about the weird movement by voting Bread. Even if he flips village, it helps put perspective on some of the late movers (ie if no wolf was in danger, the wolves likely weren't jumping wagon to wagon).

Vote Bread
Perfect I was just about to page you. Got an answer for me re: your analysis of Zenge's reads list and what besides his wolf reads you either agree or disagree with?
 
ok so then going off of this, how do you feel about sunny's involvement with bread?
What specifically about Sunny’s involvement with bread?
Here’s my post talking to Vis about my D2 Bread thoughts.
Not any better. There’s been nothing today that makes me want to give Bread village cred. He’s walked back his read of me in a wishy-washy kind of way, mostly for defending sunny, but then is also suspicious of sunny.



Like does some of it kind of track, logically? Sure. But overall, like these are kind of the most comprehensive reads we’ve gotten. Kind of sort of back tracking on me. And looking kind of sort of looking into Sunny and Mel, but not really committed to Mel as a potential candidate. And will maybe look at Dubz later.

I don’t see how this could be called wolf hunting, and with the inconsistencies of D1 that pinged me, D2 hasn’t changed anything.
Overall I have a village read on Sunny.
 
Perfect I was just about to page you. Got an answer for me re: your analysis of Zenge's reads list and what besides his wolf reads you either agree or disagree with?
@holdthemayo heres my current reads list and a more in depth analysis on my bread thoughts so you don’t have to go digging through the thread.
Okay, getting into the last few hours, lot of people coming out of the woodwork, and a lot of shade coming my way so probably a good idea to get an updated reads list before I potentially get misyeeted.

Unranked within their groups unless otherwise noted.
Village:
Mel- Still like my village read. Hasn’t posted very much since my last reads list so there’s not a lot to update on, but still seems to be wolf hunting when not trolling sunny for the lulz.

Pippy- Nothings changed. Still village reading her.

Sunny- Still village reading her. I get why people are wolf reading her but it’s for things that I’ve seen her do as village in other games and because she’s combative. I might not like it personally, but I think it’s mostly just been v/v interactions that distract and let the wolves kick their feet up, not contribute, and fly under the radar, but it’s all definitely been within the range of village!Sunny.

Vis- Really like her contributions and willingness to analyze situations reevaluate and give her thoughts. It’s coming across in a very pro-village way.

Cray- Still liking my village read here. Could she do the voting tie shenanigans as a wolf? Sure. Would she? I think it’s less likely. She’s reading to me like Village!Cray who doesn’t have a care in the world other than finding wolves. I’m agreeing with a lot of her thoughts too.

Dubz- Fine Dubz, you can have village green. Hasn’t done anything to ping me so far. Only reasons I haven’t village read her before are paranoia, but her posts come across as village!Dubz to me so I might as well just move her into the village block.

Neutral:
Alley: Moving her to neutral. She hadn’t posted very much at the time of my initial read, and some of my wolf read was probably reactionary. Latest posts though, while still not a lot of content, I’ve liked what I’ve seen. Not enough to outright move her village, but enough to say I could be wrong about her being a wolf.

Mayo- Not feeling like I’m getting a lot from him overall. Obviously his tunnel of me is unproductive and not pro village from my perspective, but not necessarily wolfy. Haven’t seen a ton to move him into the village block though.

MKG- Still hasn’t posted nearly enough to say anything one way or the other.

Sporty- Bottom of the Neutral, leaning Wolfy. I talk about April buddying up with her below, which could be WIFOM, but it sketched me out. There’s also this little interaction with Vis which pinged me.

Asking Vis how she feels about moving off of me onto Bob. Like she’s saying “Oh Vissy! Look at the error of your ways! Let’s get you back onto Zenge...” she threw some other shade on me, like she’s planning on hoping to drive my misyeet. I’ll leave her at the bottom of my neutrals, but if I had to pick someone on my neutrals list to be the last wolf in my 3-Pack, she’s pinging me.

Wolfy-
April - Didn’t like the cray vote or reasoning. Reads list overall felt a little wishy washy. Specifically, since I know people will ask, the majority of people she’s either wondering where they are or saying she doesn’t know how to read them, and at worst she’s saying “keeping an eye on”.

When I moved her from village read to neutral her response was basically threatening to wolf read me in response, which felt very wolfy.


She’s also seems to be buddying up with/defending Sporty, which sunny pointed out earlier. This whole thing felt weird AF.




Bread- Still feeing wolfy. Haven’t really changed my mind. Haven’t seen anything to change my mind.

Okay MKG. If I’m going to do an ISO on bread I’ll do it to put everything in context for you.

Opening here is sketch, but that is NAI for Bread.Joking around about his height for a while. Sketch, but still NAI for Bread.Basically makes literally the exact same argument with Bob, that I was making with Mayo:Decides to get serious, looks at the Mayo/Zenge (that’s me) situation and despite making the same point to Bob that I was making to Mayo, sees the situation as me being wolfy. Also decides to call Cray Village, despite admitting to never having seen Cray be a wolf and who TF is village reading Cray that early?Explains to Cray that Mayo is asking for mods to smite him. Says he feels more comfortable with Mayo than with me, despite siding with my side of the debate, based on what he said to Bob. Then he shades Mayo to Vis who’s village reading Mayo. That’s the end of Day 1. Even without a large number of posts, there’s a lot of inconsistencies there that are fairly sketchy.

Not any better. There’s been nothing today that makes me want to give Bread village cred. He’s walked back his read of me in a wishy-washy kind of way, mostly for defending sunny, but then is also suspicious of sunny.



Like does some of it kind of track, logically? Sure. But overall, like these are kind of the most comprehensive reads we’ve gotten. Kind of sort of back tracking on me. And looking kind of sort of looking into Sunny and Mel, but not really committed to Mel as a potential candidate. And will maybe look at Dubz later.

I don’t see how this could be called wolf hunting, and with the inconsistencies of D1 that pinged me, D2 hasn’t changed anything.
 
What specifically about Sunny’s involvement with bread?
Here’s my post talking to Vis about my D2 Bread thoughts.Overall I have a village read on Sunny.
I ment like her defense of him before the D1 yeet. I just think its interesting that you have sunny and bread as v/w considering a lot of people on thread are thinking its w/w
 
I ment like her defense of him before the D1 yeet. I just think its interesting that you have sunny and bread as v/w considering a lot of people on thread are thinking its w/w
I’m not sure what post you’re specifically referencing, but are we talking about generally not wanting to yeet him D1 because he was driving and she thinks he deserves a pass?

If so, I don’t think that’s really anything that’s indicative of either parties affiliation.
 
Not sure where to move to if it looks like mkg will be modkilled.

My concerns about alley have been mostly allayed by her explanation. Ditto for mayo’s D1 explanation of his tone change and apparent Dubz vote reasoning change.

I’m worried about mel in a very amorphous “I’ve only played with this guy once and he sounds like he did then - agreeable, helpful, but unpredictable and his thought process on many players is kind of mysterious, in a way that makes me worry he’s playing the thread with warm pockets and being allowed to get away with withholding analysis/reads and throwing out sus without fully explaining them” way. Dunno if that’s enough for me to feel comfortable voting him - nothing specifically has pinged me although there were a couple posts towards the beginning that people who’ve played with him more were troubled by. Also I kind of want to put down a vote on him when he has a chance to defend himself, not when he’s already behind and trying to catch up with less than an hour.

I’ve gone over a lot of things about z that have felt villagey or wolfy, and him pointing out that mkg will likely be modkilled is another teeny village point in my eyes (with the caveat that they could maybe be w/w). Leaning wolf but I don’t know that I want to go there yet. Admittedly I really enjoy village Z’s analysis and I’m always adverse to yeeting him unless I feel pretty confident he’s a wolf.

Sporty and Bread I’m neutral on. Haven’t had strong pings either way from anything they’
 
Perfect I was just about to page you. Got an answer for me re: your analysis of Zenge's reads list and what besides his wolf reads you either agree or disagree with?
I’m in the checkout line at the grocery store so I’ll have to look it up later if you really care. I don’t remember anything that stood out other than appearing to only be wolf reading players who voted for him. Retaliatory read list are sus.
 
Not sure where to move to if it looks like mkg will be modkilled.

My concerns about alley have been mostly allayed by her explanation. Ditto for mayo’s D1 explanation of his tone change and apparent Dubz vote reasoning change.

I’m worried about mel in a very amorphous “I’ve only played with this guy once and he sounds like he did then - agreeable, helpful, but unpredictable and his thought process on many players is kind of mysterious, in a way that makes me worry he’s playing the thread with warm pockets and being allowed to get away with withholding analysis/reads and throwing out sus without fully explaining them” way. Dunno if that’s enough for me to feel comfortable voting him - nothing specifically has pinged me although there were a couple posts towards the beginning that people who’ve played with him more were troubled by. Also I kind of want to put down a vote on him when he has a chance to defend himself, not when he’s already behind and trying to catch up with less than an hour.

I’ve gone over a lot of things about z that have felt villagey or wolfy, and him pointing out that mkg will likely be modkilled is another teeny village point in my eyes (with the caveat that they could maybe be w/w). Leaning wolf but I don’t know that I want to go there yet. Admittedly I really enjoy village Z’s analysis and I’m always adverse to yeeting him unless I feel pretty confident he’s a wolf.

Sporty and Bread I’m neutral on. Haven’t had strong pings either way from anything they’
Your Mel analysis is spot on for how I feel too.
 
I’m in the checkout line at the grocery store so I’ll have to look it up later if you really care. I don’t remember anything that stood out other than appearing to only be wolf reading players who voted for him. Retaliatory read list are sus.
How do you feel about being on the same yeet as Zenge?
 
His pockets have cheese in them. Get out soon unless you enjoy drowning in stale cheese whiz.
RUDE, I'll have you know I put care and pride into making my pockets comfy!

I’m in the checkout line at the grocery store so I’ll have to look it up later if you really care. I don’t remember anything that stood out other than appearing to only be wolf reading players who voted for him. Retaliatory read list are sus.
I do care, I really really do


I don't like anything I've seen from bread today, his flip gives me relational info for others currently on my neutral list. I especially don't like the drop a vote "do whatever you want" exit.

Unvote Cray
Vote Bread
 
Day 2 Yeet Tally
Bread (3)
- Zenge, mayo, Mel
Cray () -
Zenge () -
sunshine (2) - Pippy, Sporty
April (1) - DubZ
Sporty (2) - Cray, alley
alley () -
Pippy (1) - sunshine
mkg (2) - April, Visc
Mel (1) - Bread

12/13
yeet close in ~ 34 min
Missing: @mkg323
 
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