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WildZoo said:
I just think it's dangerous to immediately take anyone off of your suspicion list because you don't think they would kill SnS this early.
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Unfortunately, you can only work with the data that you have, regardless of how incomplete or thin it is.

You're just not making sense this game, WZ. You're acting off.
 
StartingoverVet said:
Yeah but you have to know people's personalities, LIS (and you) should know by now that I am too proud to play the "dumb" card. Never have. Never will. There is something I wouldn't do , even as a wolf.....but whatever. Lis tries to lunch me early every game.
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Hey now. Not true. I didn't try to lynch you last game. I'm trying to make up for that.

I'm not quite following the "dumb" card thing. I think I believe you, I just don't quite understand it. The part I'm hung up on (and SnS and I talked about this) is that we both vaguely recall that *you've* had auto-mayor roles that were villagers ... so we were a bit confused why you would leap to wanting to lynch the mayor because it was a rigged election.

Honestly, it's a thin reason to lynch someone - I totally admit that. But I have zero abilities and now I have nobody to talk to, so going on thin reasons is all I've got.
 
StartingoverVet said:
Yeah but you have to know people's personalities, LIS (and you) should know by now that I am too proud to play the "dumb" card. Never have. Never will. There is something I wouldn't do , even as a wolf.....but whatever. Lis tries to lunch me early every game.
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I think I've made it clear enough that I'm not the best judge of character. It was just a thought. Your call to kill ProMeth also rubbed me the wrong way. It just seemed weird. Perhaps not wolfy though. I don't know.
 
LetItSnow said:
Unfortunately, you can only work with the data that you have, regardless of how incomplete or thin it is.

You're just not making sense this game, WZ. You're acting off.
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Apparently the only games where I make sense are the ones where my logic leads to a bunch of villager lynches. Forgive me for trying to readjust my instincts.
 
MJ is a poor choice. He's a villager.

I'll back off, LIS. I really am trying to recalibrate, so it's of course possible I went in the wrong direction.

Unlynch LIS, lynch Rogert
He seems a little I f. Not sure exactly what it is. A tad more aggressivev than usual, perhaps.
 
So far, I'm reading Promethean and PBC as noob villagers. I'm not seeing anything malevolent yet.

@Romoret, are you around? You posted early yesterday, but I haven't seen you since.
 
Officialish, Possibly Inaccurate Tally:
PBC 4 (Rog, Lupin, Liss, WTF)
Sobsob 0 ()
LIS 0 ()
ProMeth 4 (ProMeth, MJ, FFM, sora)
MJ 1 (SOV)
Rogert 1 (WZ)

10/21 votes cast
 
Lynch PBC.

I don't think prometh is a wolf but noob needs to learn some things about the game before posting certain things. I'll respond more when I get home tonight.
 
Zensing said:
So far, I'm reading Promethean and PBC as noob villagers. I'm not seeing anything malevolent yet.

@Romoret, are you around? You posted early yesterday, but I haven't seen you since.
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Hi Zen! Yeah I'm around. I'm just busy working. I'll keep my phone on me and check in when I can.

I don't really have any information to add and I don't want to band-wagon so I'll just Lynch Liss for now.
 
I'm not anyone interesting. I'm soft-serve vanilla, without any chocolate swirls or sprinkles. Nothing about me is useful or damaging.
 
I could also get on a hedgie vote. She plays super quiet/infrequent all the time. Just makes her hard to read. Kinda an unfair reason to vote, but it is what it is. If you're harder to read sometimes it's easier to just find out with the noose.
 
Rogert said:
The write up says the bloodrain (effectively) killed sns. So either there was an oversight in the write up and another wolf killed her, allie had an "on death" power, or she can kill from beyond the grave. Given that, story wise, we are all trying to kill each other, I'm betting it was villager on villager action.
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If it wasn't a mod oversight, I suppose it could be the remaining wolves inheriting the dead one's power. I.e. so at the end, the last wolf standing would be able to perform all actions.
 
:shrug: I'm more worried about Rogert's attitude. I don't remember him being this aggressive.

lynch rogert
 
LetItSnow said:
Where is the PBC lynch coming from? I'd be happier with Romo, Rogert, or MJ.
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For me, it definitely stemmed from her questioning the allie info, then not even voting when it was explained to her in an attempt to make sure it wasn't noobness. She even said that the fog was never a good thing but never voted. Also same for mayor vote. She was posting pics and seemed to be wanting someone to campaign, or maybe she was subtly trying to pretend like she was campaigning. I just think it is bad play, and if she is just a noob vanilla, at least she knows what not to do next time.
 
Wait, why are people suspicious of MJ? Did I miss something besides him vouching for WZ?

Or is this payback for the last WW? 😛
 
I take it back. (I hate it when I waffle and waffle and waffle.)

unlynch RM and lynch MJ (not because of last game, just because of slight intuition)
 
LetItSnow said:
I can get on this train if you have a reason for it that's not just totally random. He's piqued my attention a bit.
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nothing great.
Just felt like the way he threw my name on a list when you was trying to lynch me was a typical wolf "let's start a bandwagon without actually be idenitified as the guy starting the bandwagon" technique.

I admit it is weak, but it is all i have.
 
Trusting Lissa for now, hope I won't regret it.

Unlynch Promethean, lynch Rogert
 
Stealing-Rogert's-thunder Tally:

PBC 6 (Rog, Lupin, Liss, WTF, DVMD, Gwen)
Sobsob 0 ()
LIS 0 ()
ProMeth 3 (ProMeth, MJ, FFM)
MJ 2 (SOV, LIS)
Rogert 4 (WZ, Zen, PBC, sora)
Liss 1 (Romoret)
Cyndia 1 (RM)

17/21 votes so far. 20 min to deadline?
 
Promethean said:
I'm a dude.

I get that people are busy. We all are. I've been working 12 hour shifts each day myself, then driving almost an hour each way, and with sick family members to tend to once I am home. (Thus, the emergency laundry situation from yesterday.) I am making time to participate because I joined a social game, and I don't want to be a jerk by flaking out on it. If these folks are totally innocent and just so busy that they can't post more than once or twice since the start of the game, or communicate in any other way, then we'd be doing them a favor by lynching them and freeing up their time.
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False. Combine people that are busy with people that don't usually post much in these games and you have some people that might post once or twice each day. This is normal for a good variety of the people here. It isn't wolfy. It has also been shown numerous times that lynching those that are "quiet" doesn't give you any better of a chance of lynching a wolf. Again, you are a noob so you wouldn't know this, but that is why I said something in the first place. If lynching the "quiet" people actually worked, we'd do it every game. The goal here is to lynch the wolves not just randomly lynch quiet people.

Promethean said:
I'm calling out people who have barely posted anything or communicated at all. My district mate PM'ed once and then clammed right up when I suggested a role exchange. Also hasn't posted in the thread much. That is information that might be useful, and if I get lynched or killed tonight, it is info that I won't be able to share should it become helpful later on.

Why would you want me to be quiet and sit on that info? I'm not insisting anything. I'm asking questions and playing the game.
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1. Role exchange suggestion is wolfy. It always has been and always will be.
2. Revealing roles to one other person who you know nothing about could be dangerous. We all know who the more prominent roles are likely to be... Katniss, Gale, Peeta, Haemish, etc.... I would think that people with those roles aren't going to be stating so in PM to someone who they have no idea if that person is or is not a wolf. Yes, a wolf might also not say much but chances are a wolf will just state they are a vanilla villager... You don't want to be revealing the important roles to people. If I don't have a way to clear you and you sent me a let's exchange roles PM, I wouldn't say crap to you.
3. The people you are harping on are normally quiet like that. So I don't see it as wolfy. Now, what @LetItSnow , I think it was him, said that since some of them are hard to get a read on, lynch them. That is fine. But simply hedgie and TRH not saying much doesn't surprise me. That is normal for both of them. This is again why your noobiness shows because you don't know how people play.
4. There are vanilla villager roles out there, then there are going to be more important roles out there. Then there are the wolves. We need to keep those important roles as hidden as possible. If people start role-revealing left and right then the wolves are going to be handed a much easier job of locating the important roles.
 
LetItSnow said:
I should also add .... I was all set to lynch DVMD because she's busy and continuing to play the busy card, and that riles up LIS's #10329 rule of WW ("People who are busy are just as likely to be wolves as people who aren't.") ..... but I don't think she would kill SnS this early in the game either. So oddly enough, SnS dying took DVMD off my suspicion list.
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Meh, it is true. Busy people can be wolves or villagers. I am not playing the "busy card", yes I didn't post much yesterday because we were busy but meh, I have all weekend off this weekend so I am going to be around.

I was simply getting annoyed with the noob and his "let's lynch the quiet people who are normally quiet anyway". Also annoyed with the "but she won't PM me!!!!"... sorry, but some of us don't PM and I would get very annoyed if I were in noob's group. He is reminding me of a demanding and obnoxious DocE.

I am a "slightly busy" villager this time. Thank Dog.


Though I will say that as soon as I saw SnS died, I thought the same thing as you just in reverse... "doubt LIS is a wolf, he wouldn't do that."
 
The tributes corner PBC in a section of particularly hostile land and suddenly an arrow is shot into a nest of tracker jackers. They swarm upon princessbuttercup, Caesar Flickerman.

Night deadline is 10 am tomorrow morning.
District 1:
1. @WildZoo
2. @Mad Jack
District 2:
3. @Rogert
4. Jilary- Plutarch Heavensbee
District 3:
5. @hedgiehog
6. @touchpause13
District 4:
7. @Gwenevre
8. @Romoret
District 5:
9. @Zensing
10. @Lupin21
District 6:
11. @Promethean
12. @that redhead
District 7:
13. @DVMDream
14. @Flim Flam Man
District 8:
15. @WhtsThFrequency
16. allieh8607 - Bloodrain/fog
District 9:
17. @Cyndia
18. @sorasea
District 10:
19. @LetItSnow
20. shortnsweet - Finnick Odair, Assassin
District 11:
21. @StartingoverVet
22. @Lissarae06
District 12:
23. @ResoluteMike
24. PrincessButterCup - Caesar Flickerman

Color explanation for LIS: red=wolf, black=villager, green=villager with special ability.
 
So, thanks for letting me live. Will see if that lasts the night, yeah?

In any case, I am a suitably chastened noob. I couldn't back down, though. No way. Going balls out and then reverse ferret? That would only have made things worse. No, if I was going to get thumped for my hubris, then I was going to have deserved it fully. Thank you for showing mercy... I promise to learn from it.

I'm sorry about the loss of Buttercup, though not sure I could have done anything to stop it even if I weren't chomping on my own foot.

As for busy... I'm legit going to be sleeping in my car tonight because I only have 7.5 hours between shifts, and losing 2 hours to driving home and back is completely unacceptable. Through the power of wireless, I'll still be around. So, I understand about busy. I don't mean to offend any people who are just quiet or otherwise restrained in their posting habits.

If I make it through the night, expect me to talk less, listen more.
 
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