Infiltrated WW Game Thread

[Caiter92]

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I think there's a difference between Kill and imprisonment. They can imprison anyone. But they can only kill those that are in the same gang... at least that is what I got from it.

Okay, so by your own logic I am not a wolf because Allie and LIS were inprisoned last night.

Guys, I'm not a wolf. I don't even know why ash girl is so set on thinking I am, when the only reason is because people started being inprisoned in her gang BEFORE I was even recruited. And me having shared the players I had seered for abilities. Why would I share that if I was a wolf? I was trying to help her and the rest of the Russians.

I'm keeping my

***lynch ceph***

And hope you guys will change off of me.

 

[alohacat319]

I honestly think it depends on how you read the question. Because since MJ was a wolf N5 or whenever Kcough asked that question, I think that counts as recruiting a wolf. However, can any of the gangs have any members that they recruited before N6 that are still around?

And no, we can recruit plus do other gang night actions.

No recruits in the Shankers.

 

[Ashgirl]

Okay, so by your own logic I am not a wolf because Allie and LIS were inprisoned last night.

Guys, I'm not a wolf. I don't even know why ash girl is so set on thinking I am, when the only reason is because people started being inprisoned in her gang BEFORE I was even recruited. And me having shared the players I had seered for abilities. Why would I share that if I was a wolf? I was trying to help her and the rest of the Russians.

I'm keeping my

***lynch ceph***

And hope you guys will change off of me.

No, as a wolf you could have imprisoned anyone, including Allie and LIS. You wouldn't have been able to kill Jayna, but we don't even know if it was a wolf kill or not so right now that's beside the point.

 

[katashark]

Unofficial Lynch Tally

Ceph (4): kata, aloha, caiter, midwife
Caiter (2): ash, caia

With 6/9 voting

swin, ceph, jilary are missing votes.

 

[Trilt]

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"Got 99 mods but Trilt ain't one" Lynch Tally
Ceph (4) - Caiter, AMW, Kata, Aloha
Caiter (1) - Ashgirl
Jilary (1) - Caia

6/9 voting
@Cephal0pod you're winning!
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[katashark]

I hope ceph checks in before we get to plurality.

 

[Trilt]

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oh darn, ninja'd
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[katashark]

oh darn, ninja'd

Did Caia vote, or no? lol

 

[katashark]

oh darn, ninja'd

Also, your tally was cooler. Soooo....there's that.

 

[Caia]

I'm going with ***lynch jil***

I should have listened to feels *forever* ago on WZ because MJ being all enthusiastic really made me suspicious but I didn't move on it.

And Jil just has been rubbing me the wrong way since I was recruited. The Fireman thing just seemed like too much and she hasn't made any firm comments on feels on anyone even as I'm throwing stuff out in gang chat.

 

[Caia]

I also agree with ashgirl in that maybe the imprisonments are different than kills or somehow they can do something outside of our groups because it would be stupid (IMO) if it all just in their groups.

But I have to take time and look at the schedule more.

I'm being bad in a club meeting atm.

 

[Trilt]

Did Caia vote, or no? lol

*****
she had unlynched I think.

edited the new vote in anyway.
*****

 

[Caia]

I've barely skimmed so just throwing my feels out and will get back when I'm done with this stupid meeting.

 

[Skimble]

The man on the television shakes his head. “Oh yes, that’s right, you probably have no clue what I mean. Well, you did send all of your men after my undercover cop. So, that has left all of you vulnerable, in one way, shape or form. For example, one of you is going to lose half of your gang tonight, as there is no one left to protect your gang, and you decided that it wasn’t worth your time to protect them tonight. Another one of you has been infiltrated tonight, thanks to some handy undercover work on our part. Good luck trying to parse out which one of you that happened to.

“And yes, the third one. Well, did you know that your friend DVMD had learned from the matador on the art of killing people. I mean that killing of DocE was so elaborate and well planned that we let her stay free a few extra nights even though we had all the evidence we needed against her. You know, just enough time for WZ to learn the tricks of the game.”

The man pauses and turns to face the camera squarely. “You see, they knew that a bomb that could be set off by very high frequencies could be easily placed in your house without notice. And they also knew that if the TV were to emit such a high frequency, then death would come almost instantaneously for the person who was sitting right underneath the bomb. Speaking of which…”

In real time, 2 of the three remaining gang leaders heard a large boom coming from the other side of town.
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On the police chatter last night:

“Hi…. Chief? Were you able to get the two people into custody last night?”

“Absolutely. That cocaine is damn good stuff. I always have and always will be lucky when it comes to risks. People tell me that there is always a chance that this stuff could block me. But for me, there never was a chance at all. My luck just works that way. And damn did that energize me enough to take on both of those bastards at once.”

“Well, I am not sure if we should be talking about cocaine on the rad….”

“Oh shush it, noobie. You and I both know that I control this city now. No one else wants to deal with these gangs. And I have effectively destroyed….”

“Yeah yeah, we get it. You are the best cop to have ever lived. No one will ever be like you, not now, not ever. Just bring them back to the new headquarters, will yha?

So this is how I see this:

RED = How Jayna died/was killed by wolves (Leader of Shankers)
BLUE = Russian gang lost 1/2 their gang
PURPLE = The remaining gang (BHG) was infiltrated

I'm in BHG and I know I wasn't converted and I don't suspect Swin was converted either, though I suppose it's possible. If I were a wolf, I would probably recruit Caia, since we all know she died a villager and was rez'd by a villager and she's been one of the more vocal people in the game, so some people may trust her. Given the write up, I believe someone in my gang was converted last night, and my top guess is Caia.

Also, the police chatter seems to suggest the chief was recently given cocaine. Did anyone inherit DVMD's ability? If so, who have you given cocaine to?

 

[swiniazycie]

So this is how I see this:

RED = How Jayna died/was killed by wolves (Leader of Shankers)
BLUE = Russian gang lost 1/2 their gang
PURPLE = The remaining gang (BHG) was infiltrated

I'm in BHG and I know I wasn't converted and I don't suspect Swin was converted either, though I suppose it's possible. If I were a wolf, I would probably recruit Caia, since we all know she died a villager and was rez'd by a villager and she's been one of the more vocal people in the game, so some people may trust her. Given the write up, I believe someone in my gang was converted last night, and my top guess is Caia.

Also, the police chatter seems to suggest the chief was recently given cocaine. Did anyone inherit DVMD's ability? If so, who have you given cocaine to?

If we think BHG is infiltrated my guess would be from most suspicious to least: Caia, too, and then you, and then me (I'm 100% positive it isn't me, unless STL is really neglecting to tell me things 😛 )

I would also like to know who the cocaine-giver is.

For today my vote is lynch Ceph and I hope the write up tomorrow will give us some more information.

 

[Caia]

So this is how I see this:

RED = How Jayna died/was killed by wolves (Leader of Shankers)
BLUE = Russian gang lost 1/2 their gang
PURPLE = The remaining gang (BHG) was infiltrated

I'm in BHG and I know I wasn't converted and I don't suspect Swin was converted either, though I suppose it's possible. If I were a wolf, I would probably recruit Caia, since we all know she died a villager and was rez'd by a villager and she's been one of the more vocal people in the game, so some people may trust her. Given the write up, I believe someone in my gang was converted last night, and my top guess is Caia.

Also, the police chatter seems to suggest the chief was recently given cocaine. Did anyone inherit DVMD's ability? If so, who have you given cocaine to?

No offense, but that would have been a very dumb decision. Stupidly obvious because I've been so chatty and I'm laughable at wolfing. (Have you ever played with me? It's pretty hilarious.) There's a reason I'm never converted of all the vets.

If the wolves knew anything about you, you would be a really good choice based on what you've said.

 

[Skimble]

I'm going with ***lynch jil***

I should have listened to feels *forever* ago on WZ because MJ being all enthusiastic really made me suspicious but I didn't move on it.

And Jil just has been rubbing me the wrong way since I was recruited. The Fireman thing just seemed like too much and she hasn't made any firm comments on feels on anyone even as I'm throwing stuff out in gang chat.

YOU wanted to take the hit on Fireman, and I was adamantly against it! How the hell more villagery can I get?!?! I even told you in the gang chat that his ability wouldn't be passed on and you chose to ignore that. Would a wolf really have defended him as hard as I did? No, they would have been super happy to take him out, just like WZ was. I also totally outed myself in the gang chat. Most of our gang chat stuff has happened while I was asleep. Sorry I've been in a terrible spot IRL (as you know).

Also, if we don't think MJ was the 1 wolf recruited to a gang, I'm obviously not it either as I was recruited N6, and the "1 wolf recruited to a gang" info had to do with the end of D6. That would likely discount me as an original, and I sure wasn't coverted. Who would convert me when I've been brought up a few times as a lynch target?

 

[alohacat319]

I think that's plurality.

 

[Ashgirl]

Guys, I don't think Ceph is the way to go. Idk about Jil's wolfiness, but Jiliary correctly pointed out that three things happened each night, one to each group, and the ONLY group that was infiltrated was obviously BHG.

Ceph and Aloha were cleared before, so why lynch one of them when there's a 99.99999% chance they are villager?

 

[Caia]

YOU wanted to take the hit on Fireman, and I was adamantly against it! How the hell more villagery can I get?!?! I even told you in the gang chat that his ability wouldn't be passed on and you chose to ignore that. Would a wolf really have defended him as hard as I did? No, they would have been super happy to take him out, just like WZ was. I also totally outed myself in the gang chat. Most of our gang chat stuff has happened while I was asleep. Sorry I've been in a terrible spot IRL (as you know).

Also, if we don't think MJ was the 1 wolf recruited to a gang, I'm obviously not it either as I was recruited N6, and the "1 wolf recruited to a gang" info had to do with the end of D6. That would likely discount me as an original, and I sure wasn't coverted. Who would convert me when I've been brought up a few times as a lynch target?

Yeah, how much more villagery can you get while WZ takes the hit anyway.

I was against it and then changed my mind because I feel like it's perfectly possible the other original is in my group and with rojo being in the gang chat I thought he was lower than you. Which was unfortunately clarified until after night closed.

I could not have been more transparent this game on pretty much exactly what I've been thinking at all times.

 

[SummerTheLynx]

Lynch closed.. Results pending...

 

[Caia]

Also, I would convert you if you're telling the truth about your role, no question. I'm likely only here because I'm not worth bothering with much like last game as a Gossip.

 

[Caia]

That said, I was thinking you might be an original. Otherwise the wolves are dropping the ball not converting that role.

 

[Skimble]

No offense, but that would have been a very dumb decision. Stupidly obvious because I've been so chatty and I'm laughable at wolfing. (Have you ever played with me? It's pretty hilarious.) There's a reason I'm never converted of all the vets.

If the wolves knew anything about you, you would be a really good choice based on what you've said.

Why would I be a good covert? I haven't been super talkative AND I've been brought up recently for lynch votes multiple times (by you and WZ, so maybe you two have more in common?) If the wolves know anything about me, it would have been due to you or Swin as you two are the only ones who know my ability. I literally haven't spoken to anyone outside the gang chat.

Also, if you haven't noticed, there really aren't any vets left, so would anyone currently playing know you are the least converted? I've never even started a game as a wolf! I was autoconverted once and died immediately. I have the least wolf experience of anyone that has been playing this long.

If I wasn't just ninja'd by STL, I'd be voting to lynch you for sure, and I hope someone has some investigation item and can look into you tonight.

P.S. Why would I highlight that my gang was likely the one infiltrated if I was the convert? That would just be stupid. I'd be happy to let the Shankers believe they had been infiltrated.

 

[SummerTheLynx]

We are going to keep this short and sweet so I can get back to studying for the test tomorrow. Everyone surrounded Ceph and decided that she was the most likely wolf, despite some objections. Ceph ran off into the distance, fearing for her life...

A hit has been placed on Ceph. Items to be sent out shortly. Night close is scheduled for 9:30 am tomorrow morning. As an aside, this is the last lynch where plurality rules are in effect, as of tomorrow, there shall be no more plurality rules.

Roster forthcoming.

"The Corner"
3. Alohacat
19. Ceph
25. Caia – El cantador, now?????

The gang's safe house
Evacuated for not being “safe”

The police safe house
Evacuated for not being “safe”

The Police headquarters
Blwon up from err, “unknown circumstances”


The Dark Alley ("Druggie's lane")
No longer used due to danger of city


The weapon's house
26. Jilary
27.Caiter92
28. Katashark

The neutral zone
31. swiniazycie
32.Ashgirl
15. Animal Midwife

In Jail:
14. Gwenevre – El negociador
33.PBC – El matador
13. LadyOtheFarm –El Capo
17. Zensing – Pakhan
11. Finnick – Brigadier
5. Trilt – El Soldado
22. DVMD – El Coco
9. Kcoughli – The Fall guy
23. LIS in his white panel van – Torpedo
8. Allieh – Shestyorka

Dead:
12. Heyyimhayley – The neutral party
29. Rocky – Sovietnik
4. Devastating – The Private Investigator
10. Kam – Homeless Person
1. MJ – Prostitute converted to undercover cop prostitute
30. DocEspana – The Corrupt Politician
18. Stb – The guy selling watches out of his undercoat
34. Teepster – El arsenal turned undercover cop
24. Rojo – The corrupt Prosecutor
7. Cyndia – The Pedophile
35. SoV – El Bajo
21. Dyachei – El Fuerte
6. FS – The Informant
16. Fireman – The Tinkerer
20. Jayna – The Leader
2. WildZoo - La Armada and Undercover COP

 

[Skimble]

That said, I was thinking you might be an original. Otherwise the wolves are dropping the ball not converting that role.

You also know it's highly unlikely my role started as a wolf. The wolves also likely don't know my ability,

 

[Caia]

Why would I be a good covert? I haven't been super talkative AND I've been brought up recently for lynch votes multiple times (by you and WZ, so maybe you two have more in common?) If the wolves know anything about me, it would have been due to you or Swin as you two are the only ones who know my ability. I literally haven't spoken to anyone outside the gang chat.

Also, if you haven't noticed, there really aren't any vets left, so would anyone currently playing know you are the least converted? I've never even started a game as a wolf! I was autoconverted once and died immediately. I have the least wolf experience of anyone that has been playing this long.

If I wasn't just ninja'd by STL, I'd be voting to lynch you for sure, and I hope someone has some investigation item and can look into you tonight.

P.S. Why would I highlight that my gang was likely the one infiltrated if I was the convert? That would just be stupid. I'd be happy to let the Shankers believe they had been infiltrated.

I think all of these questions are obvious when you think about them for a second.

I also would not be lynching you and drawing myself into an attention grabbing fight if I was worried about people investigating me.

Go right ahead.

 

[Caia]

You also know it's highly unlikely my role started as a wolf. The wolves also likely don't know my ability,

How would I know that, really?

This many nights in, I think it's pretty reasonable to assume they likely know everyone.

 

[Skimble]

I think all of these questions are obvious when you think about them for a second.

I also would not be lynching you and drawing myself into an attention grabbing fight if I was worried about people investigating me.

Go right ahead.

Well you can bet who I will be using my ability on if you lead a lynch on me tomorrow. I fully invite anyone to investigate me tonight if they would like. I have absolutely nothing to hide.

With that, I'm done for tonight. I need to go study for my radiology midterm tomorrow.

 

[Caia]

Well you can bet who I will be using my ability on if you lead a lynch on me tomorrow. I fully invite anyone to investigate me tonight if they would like. I have absolutely nothing to hide.

With that, I'm done for tonight. I need to go study for my radiology midterm tomorrow.

Well, you will likely get to look forward to making good on that promise then. I do not accept threats.

 

[Skimble]

Well, you will likely get to look forward to making good on that promise then. I do not accept threats.

This doesn't sound like you are playing for the villagers.

P.S. If you aren't a wolf, they must be laughing their a$$es off right now.

 

[Caia]

This doesn't sound like you are playing for the villagers.

Yep, I'm going to vote to lynch you with you threatening to use your ability as a wolf. Or even picked this fight in the first place. Come on.

 

[katashark]

When was Ceph cleared?

 

[swiniazycie]

Yep, I'm going to vote to lynch you with you threatening to use your ability as a wolf. Or even picked this fight in the first place. Come on.

I'm not trying to start a fight, but it sounds like it's ok for you to accuse Jil and I that we're wolves but it's not ok for Jil to come up with a case that you could be a wolf.

 

[Caia]

P.S. If you aren't a wolf, they must be laughing their a$$es off right now.

Probably. 🙁

 

[Caia]

I'm not trying to start a fight, but it sounds like it's ok for you to accuse Jil and I that we're wolves but it's not ok for Jil to come up with a case that you could be a wolf.

Jil can make a case all she wants. The whole point is to have some discussion.

 

[alohacat319]

When was Ceph cleared?

I cleared our entire gang to be villager as of N4 (stb, myself, ceph, and Jayna). Ceph wasn't an original, but if the info is correct that they have to be in a gang to kill, that means ceph must have been converted to kill Jayna. Unless Jayna died by non-wolf means.

 

[alohacat319]

Just to clarify since everyone keeps panicking over my dates, I did the clearing n5, but it doesn't include any actions that night, so people were only promised villager as of n4.

 

[Ashgirl]

I cleared our entire gang to be villager as of N4 (stb, myself, ceph, and Jayna). Ceph wasn't an original, but if the info is correct that they have to be in a gang to kill, that means ceph must have been converted to kill Jayna. Unless Jayna died by non-wolf means.

Wait a second. She or anyone wouldn't have been converted until today. She couldn't have killed Jayna last night because whoever was converted was a VILLAGER last night.

 

[swiniazycie]

Wait a second. She or anyone wouldn't have been converted until today. She couldn't have killed Jayna last night because whoever was converted was a VILLAGER last night.

Could Jayna's death be because of the files FS left? Or are they accounted for?

 

[Ashgirl]

Could Jayna's death be because of the files FS left? Or are they accounted for?

I was just going to type this. Allie said that they can kill if they are part of a gang or if they got info from the Informant, which we don't know if they did or not, therefore if it was a wolf kill it could have been from FS stuff.

 

[swiniazycie]

I was just going to type this. Allie said that they can kill if they are part of a gang or if they got info from the Informant, which we don't know if they did or not, therefore if it was a wolf kill it could have been from FS stuff.

Okay. Well I'm leaning against actually going through with the hit. I thought I had 5 minutes until lynch close and didn't fully process what was really being said (I need like a WW translator).

 

[alohacat319]

What files? Apparently I missed that part?

 

[alohacat319]

I thought that it had to be in the gang now because the informant was dead.

 

[Ashgirl]

I thought that it had to be in the gang now because the informant was dead.

but he had two files he gave to the wolves so they could have been sitting on the kill for a few nights who knows.

 

[alohacat319]

but he had two files he gave to the wolves so they could have been sitting on the kill for a few nights who knows.

Missed that part. I don't know on Ceph then. I've only been gunning because I thought it had to be our gang having a wolf.

 

[Ashgirl]

Missed that part. I don't know on Ceph then. I've only been gunning because I thought it had to be our gang having a wolf.

Well unless there was a conversion that wasn't in the write-up (and all of them have been so far for Teep and MJ), then Ceph and you are both villagers according to your count on night 4/5.

The write-up last night specifically had a consequence for each gang, and yours was to lose Jayna, and the third gang was said to be infiltrated, so there's no way Ceph or you could be a wolf by that logic.

So really it's quite possible that FS gave the files to the wolves, and they waited until the numbers were down so people would think someone in your gang was responsible for it.

 

[Cephal0pod]

Are we trusting Allieh's logic - that wolves can only kill a target in their own gang? Am I understanding that correctly? How would that explain all the villager imprisonments? Makes sense that cops would infiltrate gangs (so we are looking for gang members), but they can imprison/kill anyone.

This. I am not at all convinced that wolves can only kill a target in their own gang - that is a very large assumption to make. If you are going to use that assumption to implicate me as being responsible for Jayna's demise, you could just as easily apply it to Aloha.

However, I am not going to, as at this point I am convinced Aloha is not wolfy.

I really, really think our energies are better spent at this point looking more closely at the following people:

1). Swin
2). Caia
3). Kata

I think Kata especially would make an attractive convert option - she had been less active due to being busy in real life, and thus slipped under everybody's radars for a bit as an assumed villager. Something I would consider if I were a wolf looking to recruit, anyway.

 

[Ashgirl]

This. I am not at all convinced that wolves can only kill a target in their own gang - that is a very large assumption to make. If you are going to use that assumption to implicate me as being responsible for Jayna's demise, you could just as easily apply it to Aloha.

However, I am not going to, as at this point I am convinced Aloha is not wolfy.

I really, really think our energies are better spent at this point looking more closely at the following people:

1). Swin
2). Caia
3). Kata

I think Kata especially would make an attractive convert option - she had been less active due to being busy in real life, and thus slipped under everybody's radars for a bit as an assumed villager. Something I would consider if I were a wolf looking to recruit, anyway.

Eh but the write-up made it seem like it was in the bloodhound gang that there was a convert, so I'm less likely to think Kata since she isnt' in a gang.

 

[alohacat319]

I wish I hadn't missed the files. I would have changed my lynch vote then. In that case, I highly recommend we don't do the hit.