MarWWel -- GAME THREAD

[Truenamer]

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This is who I feel good about at the moment by the way:
Village reading DubZ, True, Dana.
Village to neutral: AM, Genny, Zenge, Mel
Neutral: Bob, PSV, violet, kdswg, Bread, SAR, Sporty, cubs (need to ISO/hear more from them)
Neutral to wolfy: TME, Barks.
I am unsure about Samac. I felt that her push towards me was similar to her push on kdswg. It sucks that I'm the noob she's tunneling this game, but if that's her way, it's unfortunately consistent with village!Samac. However, I don't understand the arguments about Zenge's comment on the movement of the thread. Why pick up on Zenge when it was True's comment and Bob also pitched in. It felt like she was arguing just for the sake of arguing, and although it was different than the orchestrated argument between her and wolf!Zenge in BoWWling, it didn't feel v/v.

Colored lists 😍

Now if you get NK'd on night 1 we can repeatedly refer back to this for the rest of the game

 

[justafluff]

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Hey, any of you vets/vet students want to chat with a depressed pre-vet in crisis?
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Absolutely! Sending ❤️. Sorry that you're going through a hard time!
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[justafluff]

Colored lists 😍

Now if you get NK'd on night 1 we can repeatedly refer back to this for the rest of the game

Stop jinxing me lol

 

[cubsrule4e]

Dubz already said that was a joke.

I was agreeing to the sense of not pushing people, don’t care about the lurking. Also I was trying to distinguish this from the comment samac made which people seemed to think I was “backing” when I never said anything about it.

 

[TelemarketingEnigma]

okay those 14 pages were like 90% general banter that I can't read in either direction so most of these vague reads are probably wrong but here are a few anyway. most people are floating somewhere in a sea of neutrality mixed with a few weird tingles and gut vibes

I don't get the wolfy ping on violet's intro post (still solidly neutral for me - too little to read) so i'm a little weirded out by other people "seeing the logic" there

genny's entrance felt village-y but then subsequent presence more neutral

Dubz is posting up a storm, much of it seems like her village self but a few things have pinged me (including the first 5 thing - it's not strong but still just feels like the kind of thing i would bring up if it was on my mind when i was wolfing, regardless of how much its normally talked about. it gives a pool of people to look at immediately while also preempting an argument people could use against you if they wanted. especially since i guess dubz was wolfing last game - would suck to wolf twice in a row but it's as possible as anyone with RNG, and would be even more of a reason to bring it up)

zenge - stand by the gut feeling from before. the biggest energy i've seen so far seems to mostly be in self defense rather than directed outward. I think I feel the worst here

still keepin' my eye on AM but not a strong lean either way yet

samac leaning villageish but not strongly

Haven't seen Dana village yet, this doesn't feel like her wolfing from noob game but it might just be a maturing of playstyle

SAR and Sporty are doing similar things of posting a lot but mostly about how they don't know whats going on

 

[TelemarketingEnigma]

for now yeet zenge

 

[Truenamer]

I don't get the wolfy ping on violet's intro post (still solidly neutral for me - too little to read) so i'm a little weirded out by other people "seeing the logic" there

For the record, I don't feel very strongly about violet; I just don't have a real wolfy feel from much of anyone and I'd at least like to incite a bit more posting from her.

And if literally everything else is equal, I'd rather yeet someone who isn't around much than someone who's active/engaged when there's no real data to go off of. Though maybe that's bad? Are wolves more likely to be actively participating? People keep telling me that activity is NAI, but I have a hard time believing that someone would get picked to be a wolf and would just... not post.

 

[Dana_May_B]

I don't get the wolfy ping on violet's intro post (still solidly neutral for me - too little to read) so i'm a little weirded out by other people "seeing the logic" there

also was feeling this too- having been misyeeted in the last game for "the way i entered the thread" im not a fan of doing the same to violet when she really hasn't said much else

 

[WildZoo]

it's not strong but still just feels like the kind of thing i would bring up if it was on my mind when i was wolfing, regardless of how much its normally talked about. it gives a pool of people to look at immediately while also preempting an argument people could use against you if they wanted.

These are mutually exclusive things
I either wanted people to look at it, which wouldn't make sense if I were a wolf, or I was pre-empting the argument, which still doesn't really make much sense given that, again, it almost never comes up unless I mention it.

This has already been confirmed by others so I don't understand why you're still bringing it up, and it makes it seem like you're reaching pretty hard.

In any case it's actually neither of those things, and I just find the data point interesting.

 

[justafluff]

Spoiler: Long Quote

okay those 14 pages were like 90% general banter that I can't read in either direction so most of these vague reads are probably wrong but here are a few anyway. most people are floating somewhere in a sea of neutrality mixed with a few weird tingles and gut vibes

I don't get the wolfy ping on violet's intro post (still solidly neutral for me - too little to read) so i'm a little weirded out by other people "seeing the logic" there

genny's entrance felt village-y but then subsequent presence more neutral

Dubz is posting up a storm, much of it seems like her village self but a few things have pinged me (including the first 5 thing - it's not strong but still just feels like the kind of thing i would bring up if it was on my mind when i was wolfing, regardless of how much its normally talked about. it gives a pool of people to look at immediately while also preempting an argument people could use against you if they wanted. especially since i guess dubz was wolfing last game - would suck to wolf twice in a row but it's as possible as anyone with RNG, and would be even more of a reason to bring it up)

zenge - stand by the gut feeling from before. the biggest energy i've seen so far seems to mostly be in self defense rather than directed outward. I think I feel the worst here

still keepin' my eye on AM but not a strong lean either way yet

samac leaning villageish but not strongly

Haven't seen Dana village yet, this doesn't feel like her wolfing from noob game but it might just be a maturing of playstyle

SAR and Sporty are doing similar things of posting a lot but mostly about how they don't know whats going on

I actually agree with most of your reads. To add in to my village reading of Dana, she feels most like her joking, careless side, kind of like the way she was openwolfing in the noob game after her cover had been blown. But I don't mean to say that she's openwolfing here, just that she was more reserved- careful in the noob game as a wolf undercover.

 

[Dana_May_B]

Are wolves more likely to be actively participating? People keep telling me that activity is NAI, but I have a hard time believing that someone would get picked to be a wolf and would just... not post.

granted, ive only been a wolf once, but out of our 4 member OG pack, i'd say weagle and miyamiya were relatively inactive the first few days. people just have stuff going on in their real lives, wolf or not

 

[WildZoo]

You can say me bringing it up is NAI, and sure, whatever, but to say it is something I'd be more likely to do as a wolf than village is just ??_??

 

[Truenamer]

granted, ive only been a wolf once, but out of our 4 member OG pack, i'd say weagle and miyamiya were relatively inactive the first few days. people just have stuff going on in their real lives, wolf or not

God, I'm going to be so obvious my first time, I'll have a higher post count than Samac and Cubs combined 🤣

 

[WildZoo]

For the record, I don't feel very strongly about violet; I just don't have a real wolfy feel from much of anyone and I'd at least like to incite a bit more posting from her.

And if literally everything else is equal, I'd rather yeet someone who isn't around much than someone who's active/engaged when there's no real data to go off of. Though maybe that's bad? Are wolves more likely to be actively participating? People keep telling me that activity is NAI, but I have a hard time believing that someone would get picked to be a wolf and would just... not post.

I'll keep saying activity level on its own is NAI because it is. We had inactive scum and inactive villagers last game, you saw that.

 

[bluestoat]

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Hey, any of you vets/vet students want to chat with a depressed pre-vet in crisis?
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Can't speak to vet med specifically, but I am always happy to listen and cheer through life's difficulties. Or to give support when life's path has more obstacles than you thought it would once upon a time
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[justafluff]

I'll keep saying activity level on its own is NAI because it is. We had inactive scum and inactive villagers last game, you saw that.

It's definitely safer to be inactive, but people will call you out for that as well, so I try to not read too much into it. Although I do feel better about Genny cause she's slightly more active here than in StardeWW.

 

[WildZoo]

God, I'm going to be so obvious my first time, I'll have a higher post count than Samac and Cubs combined 🤣

that would just barely put you ahead of me this game 😱

 

[SportPonies]

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Hey, any of you vets/vet students want to chat with a depressed pre-vet in crisis?
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Ditto. I’m here, as someone who was consistently in crisis for all of vet school

 

[SportPonies]

Also lol at the fact I thought I could read between appointments today

 

[WildZoo]

Violet hasn't reached post-min yet so will be interesting to see if she squeaks in

 

[WildZoo]

Oh hai sport sport

 

[TelemarketingEnigma]

And if literally everything else is equal, I'd rather yeet someone who isn't around much than someone who's active/engaged when there's no real data to go off of. Though maybe that's bad? Are wolves more likely to be actively participating? People keep telling me that activity is NAI, but I have a hard time believing that someone would get picked to be a wolf and would just... not post.

my general stance is anti-yeeting people just because they're quiet, unless it's a choice between noncontributing person and very active person who I STRONGLY feel is villager. I definitely have adopted a strategy though as a wolf of staying off thread as much as I can without drawing suspicion even if i was super active in wolf chat (though that was a lot easier in noob game than in a game full of vets)

I either wanted people to look at it, which wouldn't make sense if I were a wolf, or I was pre-empting the argument

idk how to explain it well but i don't see it as mutually exclusive. you can call out a group of people that includes yourself to try to get people to look at the other people in the group, while at the same time saying "this thing I pointed out can't possibly implicate me, because I pointed it out! so look at the other people." it lines up a lot with a tendency I have when I wolf which is why it feels icky to me I think. I don't know if you do it or not, and you're right it's probably unimportant, but it stand by it giving me some icky vibes.

 

[Zenge142]

Oh hai sport sport

How are you feeling about her pop-ins?

 

[Animal Midwife]

This is who I feel good about at the moment by the way:
Village reading DubZ, True, Dana.
Village to neutral: AM, Genny, Zenge, Mel
Neutral: Bob, PSV, violet, kdswg, Bread, SAR, Sporty, cubs (need to ISO/hear more from them)
Neutral to wolfy: TME, Barks.
I am unsure about Samac. I felt that her push towards me was similar to her push on kdswg. It sucks that I'm the noob she's tunneling this game, but if that's her way, it's unfortunately consistent with village!Samac. However, I don't understand the arguments about Zenge's comment on the movement of the thread. Why pick up on Zenge when it was True's comment and Bob also pitched in. It felt like she was arguing just for the sake of arguing, and although it was different than the orchestrated argument between her and wolf!Zenge in BoWWling, it didn't feel v/v.

What has you village reading True?

 

[WildZoo]

How are you feeling about her pop-ins?

I don't know, they haven't included anything meaningful. But I also know she's really busy right now. I can't off the top of my head remember if there's an affiliation-dependent difference in how sporty pops in when she hasn't had a chance to read anything.

 

[WildZoo]

How are you feeling about them @Zenge142 ?

 

[Animal Midwife]

okay those 14 pages were like 90% general banter that I can't read in either direction so most of these vague reads are probably wrong but here are a few anyway. most people are floating somewhere in a sea of neutrality mixed with a few weird tingles and gut vibes

I don't get the wolfy ping on violet's intro post (still solidly neutral for me - too little to read) so i'm a little weirded out by other people "seeing the logic" there

genny's entrance felt village-y but then subsequent presence more neutral

Dubz is posting up a storm, much of it seems like her village self but a few things have pinged me (including the first 5 thing - it's not strong but still just feels like the kind of thing i would bring up if it was on my mind when i was wolfing, regardless of how much its normally talked about. it gives a pool of people to look at immediately while also preempting an argument people could use against you if they wanted. especially since i guess dubz was wolfing last game - would suck to wolf twice in a row but it's as possible as anyone with RNG, and would be even more of a reason to bring it up)

zenge - stand by the gut feeling from before. the biggest energy i've seen so far seems to mostly be in self defense rather than directed outward. I think I feel the worst here

still keepin' my eye on AM but not a strong lean either way yet

samac leaning villageish but not strongly

Haven't seen Dana village yet, this doesn't feel like her wolfing from noob game but it might just be a maturing of playstyle

SAR and Sporty are doing similar things of posting a lot but mostly about how they don't know whats going on

So samac is your only village read?

 

[Dana_May_B]

yeet cubs

not a fan of the violet vote, and as i said earlier, im also not getting the same tone from cubs as i did when he power villaged in the last game.
not married to this vote, but i wanna get something on the board

 

[SARdoghandler]

SAR and Sporty are doing similar things of posting a lot but mostly about how they don't know whats going on

Hey now, contrary to popular belief, I always know what's going on.

 

[Animal Midwife]

For the record, I don't feel very strongly about violet; I just don't have a real wolfy feel from much of anyone and I'd at least like to incite a bit more posting from her.

And if literally everything else is equal, I'd rather yeet someone who isn't around much than someone who's active/engaged when there's no real data to go off of. Though maybe that's bad? Are wolves more likely to be actively participating? People keep telling me that activity is NAI, but I have a hard time believing that someone would get picked to be a wolf and would just... not post.

Remember when genny, yet again, lowposted as scum and went on to win? It's always going to be NAI unless you know someone has a distinct activity pattern between affiliations.

 

[TelemarketingEnigma]

So samac is your only village read?

I don't feel solid village on anyone yet. gut feeling is actually better on genny than samac. but there is less overall from genny so my read there is more reserved, and I've thought I had a handle on genny previously but been proven wrong before. Similar on dana - feels villagey in contrast to my knowledge of her wolfing, but reserving because i've never seen her village.

samac also slightly informed by my bad vibes from zenge - i don't think their tiff was w/w. could easily be v/v, but i will reevaluate samac closely if zenge gets back into my village books

 

[Zenge142]

How are you feeling about them @Zenge142 ?

Uneasy, but I'm not going to push there until I see more.

Sometimes I feel like she pops in and has more thread awareness than someone just "popping in" and "doesn't have time to read the thread" but I'm not interested in pushing there today. I know how tunnely I can get.

 

[WildZoo]

Uneasy, but I'm not going to push there until I see more.

Sometimes I feel like she pops in and has more thread awareness than someone just "popping in" and "doesn't have time to read the thread" but I'm not interested in pushing there today. I know how tunnely I can get.

Which posts are you interpreting as more thread-aware than you would expect?

 

[Animal Midwife]

I don't feel solid village on anyone yet. gut feeling is actually better on genny than samac. but there is less overall from genny so my read there is more reserved, and I've thought I had a handle on genny previously but been proven wrong before. Similar on dana - feels villagey in contrast to my knowledge of her wolfing, but reserving because i've never seen her village.

samac also slightly informed by my bad vibes from zenge - i don't think their tiff was w/w. could easily be v/v, but i will reevaluate samac closely if zenge gets back into my village books

So did you just share a list of neutrals then?

 

[TelemarketingEnigma]

So did you just share a list of neutrals then?

no. there are people i feel better about, very neutral about, and worse about. hedgey is my forte, but my thoughts are there for you to read. If i say someone is strongly village, it means i'll be surprised to be wrong about them. but with the way D1 is going i wouldn't be surprised to be wrong about any of those reads.

 

[cubsrule4e]

God, I'm going to be so obvious my first time, I'll have a higher post count than Samac and Cubs combined 🤣

🤨

 

[Zenge142]

Which posts are you interpreting as more thread-aware than you would expect?

Her response to PSV most recently. Which I don't want to hold against her. But it was just kind of striking that she was "absent" and then aware of posts on the thread enough to come on for that one.

I don't honestly think shes secretly reading the thread and pretending she's busy. She's firmly in my neutrals. I was just struck by how johnny on the spot she was with that response for someone who's not caught up and too busy to fully keep up with the thread at the moment.

It's not something I'm prepared to wolf read her over. I won't be looking there today.

 

[Animal Midwife]

no. there are people i feel better about, very neutral about, and worse about. hedgey is my forte, but my thoughts are there for you to read. If i say someone is strongly village, it means i'll be surprised to be wrong about them. but with the way D1 is going i wouldn't be surprised to be wrong about any of those reads.

Could you organize the list from most to least villagey?

 

[Truenamer]

What has you village reading True?

My overwhelming charm and suspiciously large teeth, I assume

 

[Zenge142]

🤨

I feel like there is a missed opportunity with your avatar to have the entire shield the Cubs logo. It has the right colors for it.

 

[justafluff]

What has you village reading True?

He has felt the same as all of his other games. Awkward intro post, which was explained by him actually prepping it in advance, lots of carefree joking...
Although...he had a couple of quotes that felt icky, like the comment about using my list after I'm ded, but it's most likely referring to his experience in dead chat in BoWWling. I also did not understand his samac vote. I asked if it was a real vote, and he said yes, but today he unyeeted samac saying it was mostly a joke... I don't know...That was a bit weird.

 

[justafluff]

My overwhelming charm and suspiciously large teeth, I assume

Its the fur. Rabbits like soft things.

 

[Zenge142]

I feel like there is a missed opportunity with your avatar to have the entire shield the Cubs logo. It has the right colors for it.

Why is Dana angry?

 

[Animal Midwife]

He has felt the same as all of his other games. Awkward intro post, which was explained by him actually prepping it in advance, lots of carefree joking...
Although...he had a couple of quotes that felt icky, like the comment about using my list after I'm ded, but it's most likely referring to his experience in dead chat in BoWWling. I also did not understand his samac vote. I asked if it was a real vote, and he said yes, but today he unyeeted samac saying it was mostly a joke... I don't know...That was a bit weird.

Do you feel a wolf!True would be incapable of doing the bolded?

 

[Dana_May_B]

Why is Dana angry?

because dana made that profile pic for cubs!

 

[justafluff]

Why is Dana angry?

She had like 3 attempts at making his logo

 

[Truenamer]

He has felt the same as all of his other games. Awkward intro post, which was explained by him actually prepping it in advance, lots of carefree joking...
Although...he had a couple of quotes that felt icky, like the comment about using my list after I'm ded, but it's most likely referring to his experience in dead chat in BoWWling. I also did not understand his samac vote. I asked if it was a real vote, and he said yes, but today he unyeeted samac saying it was mostly a joke... I don't know...That was a bit weird.

I can pull the quotes but I think it was pretty obvious I was joking at the time. We had just been talking about how she was too villagey the previous game so a couple of us pretended to wolf-read her in this thread. You may want to reread that section of the thread?

EDIT- And yeah, sorry if that joke upset you, I was referring to Dubz's reads list which got brought up again for the rest of the game. It was a big deal to me since I spent most of my first game in deadchat.

 

[Zenge142]

because dana made that profile pic for cubs!

 

[Dana_May_B]

He has felt the same as all of his other games. Awkward intro post, which was explained by him actually prepping it in advance, lots of carefree joking...
Although...he had a couple of quotes that felt icky, like the comment about using my list after I'm ded, but it's most likely referring to his experience in dead chat in BoWWling. I also did not understand his samac vote. I asked if it was a real vote, and he said yes, but today he unyeeted samac saying it was mostly a joke... I don't know...That was a bit weird.

i wanna add to this and say i didn't like true's reasoning for voting violet simply because he's that confident about cubs being village that he wants to just hop on that vote with him. but im really noncommittal about reading true this game because i got it so so so wrong in the stardew dead chat

 

[WildZoo]

Her response to PSV most recently. Which I don't want to hold against her. But it was just kind of striking that she was "absent" and then aware of posts on the thread enough to come on for that one.

I don't honestly think shes secretly reading the thread and pretending she's busy. She's firmly in my neutrals. I was just struck by how johnny on the spot she was with that response for someone who's not caught up and too busy to fully keep up with the thread at the moment.

It's not something I'm prepared to wolf read her over. I won't be looking there today.

Yeah. Idk. Seems like the kind of thing she might have coincidentally seen when she happened to pop on.