Melee WW Game Thread-April 2024

[samac]

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I really do think there is a generational gap here between myself and a lot of others playing this game. My therapist tells me I am an "old soul" and the the younger generation typically acts according to their feelings rather than logic. This is because the frontal cortex of the brain isn't fully developed until about 25 years old. So people generally don't understand what long rang thinking actually means until about that age. And Benneh is conflicting themselves by saying there is 34.5 hours left in the day but knowing where his vote is going to end up already.

I know at least a few of us are over 30.

 

[Santygrass]

Okay. So my box to reply to the thread is filled with the ISO I’m working on.

I see Santy’s post and react to it.

What are you literally suggesting I do if you were in my shoes?

Delete my ISO, make comments about the reveal and then go back and re-do it from scratch?

Why is my finishing my ISO first not a sensible thing to do in your minds?

Also You can always copy it or leave it bookmarked. Or just when posted it then comment about the important thing.

You started talking about it after I confronted you about it with a "but I already adressed it, I reacted to it!" Sort of reply

 

[dyachei]

I know at least a few of us are over 30.

 

[samac]

You understand I’m not like… on the forum 24/7.

I’m doing other things and checking in when I can.

Oh yes, im not expecting that and not reacting to his post until 1:45 isn’t the issue. I didn’t see it until this afternoon either. It’s the culmination of it all
But you say you were working on MKG in breaks so you would not have seen his post?

 

[Cyndia]

My peek was a non villa peek.

Wether they are mafia, or 3p changes things a lot

In a game this size I feel like I’d be surprised if there was 3p… unless someone has stats of previous kd games with 3p.

For now I’m happy with
vote Dyachei

 

[Zenge142]

Also You can always copy it or leave it bookmarked. Or just when posted it then comment about the important thing.

You started talking about it after I confronted you about it with a "but I already adressed it, I reacted to it!" Sort of reply

I don’t trust the forum not to butcher the formatting if I copy something with a bunch of quotes and then post it back in.

And again your argument is that I should have done something with the ISO to put it aside and immediately respond instead of just taking a little time to finish the ISO which is absurd. I don’t see why taking a little time to finish what I’m working on is such an issue.

And yes, by the time I got a chance to submit it and respond to your reveal, I think all the discussion worth having had already been had. I had nothing to contribute, the information was there.

 

[Zenge142]

Oh yes, im not expecting that and not reacting to his post until 1:45 isn’t the issue. I didn’t see it until this afternoon either. It’s the culmination of it all
But you say you were working on MKG in breaks so you would not have seen his post?

I did. I wow reacted it.

 

[Santygrass]

Most villa to least villa


Samac
Cyndia
Alley

MKG

PSV
genny

Stagg
Zenge
Dyachei

 

[Zenge142]

Most villa to least villa


Samac
Cyndia
Alley

MKG

PSV
genny

Stagg
Zenge
Dyachei

Why is Stagg so low?

 

[Santygrass]

I don’t trust the forum not to butcher the formatting if I copy something with a bunch of quotes and then post it back in.

And again your argument is that I should have done something with the ISO to put it aside and immediately respond instead of just taking a little time to finish the ISO which is absurd. I don’t see why taking a little time to finish what I’m working on is such an issue.

And yes, by the time I got a chance to submit it and respond to your reveal, I think all the discussion worth having had already been had. I had nothing to contribute, the information was there.

Not addressing it at the same time you make a case and yeet for another slot is a very bad thing to do if your villa . Dont think we can reach a consensus over this point.

If you are villa, my recommendation is to look at other slots and expand your reads (Not focus only on MKG , state villa reads and other possible scum reads, all that stuff that can be helpful)

 

[mkg323]

@mkg323 have you read my claim?

that your an extra special fighter and are claiming dy is nonvillage? or did i miss something?

 

[Santygrass]

Why is Stagg so low?

It depends if dya flips mafia. But if they do I think they are like super teamed by their interactions.

Will go on about it after the flip.

But for reference dya stated 3 townreads before my claim: Samac, Stagg, and genny. I dont think that list is pure

And the reason for townreading genny was because they said stagg/samac were V/V. I felt it was such a weak reason to tr genny, it probably was to encourage a wrong read there tbh.

 

[Santygrass]

that your an extra special fighter and are claiming dy is nonvillage? or did i miss something?

You didnt miss anything so we gucci.

You believe a 3p to be truthful that outed themselves after being exposed of being nonvillage? With no actions that can be verified?

 

[samac]

@Zenge142 its readslistoclock

 

[Santygrass]

Also I have cyndia/alley so high because no one is really advocating for them, and I felt that the 3 slots tha I have at the bottom have made efforts to sus them, paint the interaction they had as bad, or the " alley-cyndia is w/v" thingy .

So they prob just two villas

 

[Zenge142]

Not addressing it at the same time you make a case and yeet for another slot is a very bad thing to do if your villa . Dont think we can reach a consensus over this point.

If you are villa, my recommendation is to look at other slots and expand your reads (Not focus only on MKG , state villa reads and other possible scum reads, all that stuff that can be helpful)

Well. You seered Dy. ✅
I like my case on MK. ✅
You apparently think Stagg is a wolf which I’m trying to talk to you about. ✅
Samac thinks Alley is a wolf so that’s covered. ✅

How many scum do you think are in this game that you think I should be exploring other options?

I’d be shocked if the game wasn’t solved in this group

 

[mkg323]

I was working on it since this morning whenever I had a few spare minutes at work

this seems like an exaggeration considering the whole site was down from like 8-12

 

[Santygrass]

Well. You seered Dy. ✅
I like my case on MK. ✅
You apparently think Stagg is a wolf which I’m trying to talk to you about. ✅
Samac thinks Alley is a wolf so that’s covered. ✅

How many scum do you think are in this game that you think I should be exploring other options?

I’d be shocked if the game wasn’t solved in this group

Im against the idea that alley is a wolf. So no thats not covered.

Talk me about your read ln alley. Also your read on psv/genny I would also like.

 

[Zenge142]

@Zenge142 its readslistoclock

Well. You seered Dy. ✅
I like my case on MK. ✅
You apparently think Stagg is a wolf which I’m trying to talk to you about. ✅
Samac thinks Alley is a wolf so that’s covered. ✅

How many scum do you think are in this game that you think I should be exploring other options?

I’d be shocked if the game wasn’t solved in this group

Do you need me to say more or can you piece it together from this?

 

[Zenge142]

this seems like an exaggeration considering the whole site was down from like 8-12

I hit refresh a bunch. That counts.

 

[samac]

Do you need me to say more or can you piece it together from this?

No I want the list from village to wolf

 

[Stagg737]

Also I strongly think its not wifom.

At least by dy movements/votes and the nk pointing at alley being villa is something to at least reconsider the read and consider other scenarios instead of being 'kay its alley/zenge/dya

How does the NK point to Alley being village? I have several scenarios in my head, that is just higher up my list than some others.

Work got crazy this evening, I actually haven’t left for home yet. I will try to add thoughts before close. But for now, I’m not 100% sold on yeeting dy unless someone else wants to also claim 3p

Why? You believe strongly that Dy is 3P acting in interest of village? If so who should we be voting for instead?

 

[Zenge142]

Talk me about your read ln alley.

I did, with the end of D1 thoughts.

I also think she was trying to make my “I’d kill Clem” joke into a thing with the questions she asked and it felt scummy

 

[Santygrass]

How does the NK point to Alley being village? I have several scenarios in my head, that is just higher up my list than some others.



Why? You believe strongly that Dy is 3P acting in interest of village? If so who should we be voting for instead?

Because Clem kill points at mafia being comfy about status quo / not feeling sussed by most active slots (or being them).

Alley was prob one of the most sussed slots, so while I think dya is someone that benefits the most with Clem dying, Alley benefits the least with that sort of slot dying

 

[Zenge142]

No I want the list from village to wolf

Santy
Samac
Cyndia
PSV
Genny
Stagg
Alley
MK
Dy

 

[mkg323]

You didnt miss anything so we gucci.

You believe a 3p to be truthful that outed themselves after being exposed of being nonvillage? With no actions that can be verified?

no. but yes. but no. sometimes im an optimist that wants to believe in the best in people. aaaand i just kinda like the chaos of keeping her around. but i do accept the logical thing to do,(bc i am 26 and my brain is fully developed) is to yeet the nonvillager. sadly.

 

[samac]

no. but yes. but no. sometimes im an optimist that wants to believe in the best in people. aaaand i just kinda like the chaos of keeping her around. but i do accept the logical thing to do,(bc i am 26 and my brain is fully developed) is to yeet the nonvillager. sadly.

Dammit mkg
Put your samac boots back on and act village-y

 

[Santygrass]

Santy
Samac
Cyndia
PSV
Genny
Stagg
Alley
MK
Dy

Thoughts on psv and genny?

 

[mkg323]

Dammit mkg
Put your samac boots back on and act village-y

SORRY IS THIS BETTER
I WAS MAKING A JOKE ABOUT FINDING THE BEST IN PEOPLE WHILE IN A GAME ABOUT DECEPTION IT WASNT REALLY THAT SERIOUS OF A POST BUT I DO AGREE TO

YEET DY

 

[dyachei]

but of course there are no actions to verify, i didnt do anything last night. you can verify my actions tonight

 

[Zenge142]

Thoughts on psv and genny?

Not really. That’s why they’re in the middle.

 

[Santygrass]

Not really. That’s why they’re in the middle.

Having no thoughts on someone atp I think should be a red flag. You were good at reading psv right?

Doesnt that concern you that maybe they are being coasty / not doing enough and thats why you dont have much thoughts on thrm?

 

[Stagg737]

In a game this size I feel like I’d be surprised if there was 3p… unless someone has stats of previous kd games with 3p.

For now I’m happy with
vote Dyachei

I’m not convinced that there are any wolves at all, but I’m not unpacking that tinfoil yet…

Also I have cyndia/alley so high because no one is really advocating for them, and I felt that the 3 slots tha I have at the bottom have made efforts to sus them, paint the interaction they had as bad, or the " alley-cyndia is w/v" thingy .

So they prob just two villas

Zenge advocated for Alley and Clem had advocated (weakly) for Cyndia and against Alley. Did you forget my post about that? I also disagree with me being wolfier than genny. Maybe she is just really busy this game, but I haven’t seen any real contributions from her at all. I usually expect at least some well directed questions but even those seem generic and flat this game.

 

[Zenge142]

Thoughts on psv and genny?

They both feel mildly village. But I’m not unwilling to consider a compelling case if there is one. Unlike say Samac where I’d be hard pressed to imagine a case being compelling enough

 

[dyachei]

the second i step out of line kill me, but i wont step out of line because Im not a wolf

 

[Zenge142]

You were good at reading psv right?

No

 

[Santygrass]

I had you as "PSV is hard to read in case of doubt sheep him"

Noooooooo shocking news what do I do now

 

[Zenge142]

I had you as "PSV is hard to read in case of doubt sheep him"

Noooooooo shocking news what do I do now

I mean idk. Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe I am. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Santygrass]

I’m not convinced that there are any wolves at all, but I’m not unpacking that tinfoil yet…


Zenge advocated for Alley and Clem had advocated (weakly) for Cyndia and against Alley. Did you forget my post about that? I also disagree with me being wolfier than genny. Maybe she is just really busy this game, but I haven’t seen any real contributions from her at all. I usually expect at least some well directed questions but even those seem generic and flat this game.

Zenge advocated against both in a bad light. You kinda did as well
Im suspecting both of you, so that makes cyndia/alley look better to me.

I think on a vaccuum you have better post than genny tho. Its just that I think dy treated you more like a partner than they did to genny

 

[dyachei]

what if I fight and try to kill zenge tonight?

 

[Santygrass]

the second i step out of line kill me, but i wont step out of line because Im not a wolf

Ily dy and sorry regardless of what you flip . Thanks for all the cat posting, I enjoyed it

 

[Santygrass]

Also, I want to say that Im not an affiliation seer, I had one use of it. I am a Multi purpose fighter (JOAT).

I might or might not have a gun, and regardless of dy's flip I encourage village to stay when night starts and talk about suspects

 

[alleycat03]

It was me

Edit: that fought cyndia since SDN just had a stroke

 

[Stagg737]

Because Clem kill points at mafia being comfy about status quo / not feeling sussed by most active slots (or being them).

Alley was prob one of the most sussed slots, so while I think dya is someone that benefits the most with Clem dying, Alley benefits the least with that sort of slot dying

Fair thoughts, but I don’t like that your biggest reason for Alley being village is NKA. It is very easy to manipulate and I’ve won with a team where we literally NK’d the most suspected villager every night to intentionally screw with village as much as possible. That game ended in a wolf sweep other than quitting mid game due to feeling harassed.

Zenge advocated against both in a bad light. You kinda did as well
Im suspecting both of you, so that makes cyndia/alley look better to me.

I think on a vaccuum you have better post than genny tho. Its just that I think dy treated you more like a partner than they did to genny

Other than Cyndia calling out Alley for voting her with a similar reads list, what have they done that has been even moderately village leaning?

 

[alleycat03]

Can anybody else see the quote or not

 

[alleycat03]

B

hmmmmmm

Who wants to fess up to attacking me last night?

It was me

 

[Stagg737]

what if I fight and try to kill zenge tonight?

The only acceptable answer to this debate is Dubz…

 

[Zenge142]

Also, I want to say that Im not an affiliation seer, I had one use of it. I am a Multi purpose fighter (JOAT).

I might or might not have a gun, and regardless of dy's flip I encourage village to stay when night starts and talk about suspects

I mean you should obviously shoot me. Otherwise it’s just going to go in circles with our discussions and I’m an egg that needs to be cracked for village to move on productively.

 

[Stagg737]

It was me

Curious how Santy views this…

 

[Santygrass]

Fair thoughts, but I don’t like that your biggest reason for Alley being village is NKA. It is very easy to manipulate and I’ve won with a team where we literally NK’d the most suspected villager every night to intentionally screw with village as much as possible. That game ended in a wolf sweep other than quitting mid game due to feeling harassed.

It is both the NKA + not looking paired with dya + not looking paired with you/zenge which are my other suspects.

Alley seems to be alone in thread rn.

Though what is fair is that all the reasons to village read alley are not related much to alley posts contents which is fair.