Milkshake - Game Thread

[alissa14]

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I also apologize if some of my thoughts come across rambly but I’m the person who types as they think so what you’re reading on thread is often my train of thought whooshing by choo choo

 

[Barkley13]

I would probably support a paws flip. I am curious as to their role, although I think genny would be more likely to flip wolf. I don’t feel good about the suni flip, and no one seems to support my genny feels, so I’d love another option then just suni.

Were you curious about her role or her affiliation??

@Barkley13 you put genny as neutral today but said she felt village yesterday. Just wanted clarification and to hear from you more.

What do you want clarification on? One day I was leaning village on her and the next day I updated my reads and had her as neutral instead

 

[alissa14]

Honestly as I’m re-reading some of barks’ more recent posts I’m starting to feel better about her... but I’d still like to see how sporty flips to be sure. I know I said previously I think their interactions are w/w but...

 

[Coopah]

Okay so here’s my page by page notes that I have. Some pages have more comments than others because some pages just don’t have a lot that I feel need to be commented on. I typed up the majority of this in my phone notes last night and couldn’t quote anyone because the thread was locked. I finished the last 7 or so pages just now. I also updated my reads as I went and that will be in the next post. If anyone has questions tag me because my mom is bugging me to clean out my car. She’s mad at how much mud I’ve tracked in since I’ve been going to my internship at the farm lol

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Genny lynches sunbodi D1 without any reasoning. Kinda curious... @genny was this a random vote or is this based on some previous game or..

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Literally 0 thoughts. Everyone here either had no noteworthy content for me to mention or is dead

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Again nothing to see here other than everyone debating on what MU is like and yadda yadda

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@SportPonies 5-9 @ 8:37

“This is a fun question since she posted like, 2 times when you asked this. Not sure what I'm supposed to gather out of that.”

This is in response to mpm asking about Sporty’s thoughts on barks. Weirdly defensive IMO. @SportPonies do you have any thoughts on barks now?



Dubz submits a lynch vote for SAR based on a soul read. Quite impressive actually even though she didn’t stay on the SAR lynch. AM is there an awward for that? Lol

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@Barkley13 5-9 @ 9:40 PM

“Why is SAR sketchy”

Were you just not reading the same level of sketch as everyone else? I get it that everyone makes mistakes but this quote doesn’t age well.

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@ 9:45 there was a 3-way tie between SAR, sunbodi, and Doggo. I’m sure this has been mentioned before, but if doggo were SAR’s wolfy partner she could’ve easily made up some reason to switch her lynch to sunbodi and save both herself and SAR. There was enough time to make something up. But she didn’t. This basically clears doggo as village in my book.



Kota then ties up lynch between SAR and doggo at 9:54. At this point I think Kota is also clear from being a wolf. If doggo is village (based on VCA I think that’s the case), then why would Kota tie up lynch with a fellow wolf (SAR). Unless both SAR and doggo are wolves and are going for the ultimate bus of the century to gain hella village cred for a noob wolf, this scenario is highly unlikely. I tried to tie up the lynch because I thought both seemed kinda wolfy and wanted to see how they flipped but Kota beat me to it.



@ 9:57 BigCats questions if she likes the SAR lynch.



Kota comes in at 10:09 AM the following day with some solid reads



Poor BC, tricked by SAR again tsk tsk 😉

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Low key I haven’t been able to read thread in depth as closely as I have tonight and I’m so sad at all the genny snark I missed! I especially like “I’m not making a list. I’m not Santa Claus”

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@Barkley13 5-10 @ 12:41 PM

“Is the post you quoted why you’re saying she’s wishy washy? Because if so, how does saying she’ll be back later = wishy washy?”

In the other sporty quote it was sporty defending barks. Here it’s barks defending sporty. Is it possible these our are remaining wolves? I’ll keep reading and see.



More debate on the SAR lynch... I’ve already given my thoughts on it

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Not seeing much from sporty yet...

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Nothing really here except sunbodi came back



Again, I love reading the genny snark I missed.

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Sunbodi - “a healthier approach to WW”

This made me lol



@WonderingStudent ties the Paws/Sporty lynch at 7:41 PM



Barks gives a good, long read list

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I have nothing to say other than sunbodi is back

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@Doggo Labs 5-10 @ 9:14

“Okay thanks”

This was super weird. You then explained some sort of phone glitch? Can you please re-explain what happened here? I’m confused if this was an actual glitch or we all are dumb and missed a rojo.



BigCats makes a 3 way tie between Sporty, Paws, and 3M at 9:28

@BigCats you were on barks’ lynch vote, then you moved off of the barks vote and on to 3M’s lynch (where barks was also sitting) without providing reasoning. Basically you switched your lynch from barks to the person that barks was lynching. Why did you do this? To create a tie? Weird move for you but I would say this isn’t something wolf!BC would go for.



Starting to think I took the bait on Barks’ post regarding 3M. Maybe she pushed the lynch that way??

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Kota unlynches paws and swings over to 3M which leads to her lynch. Not a good look IMO but I still think Kota is relatively cleared from the D1 SAR lynch.

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Barkley has some shiny tinfoil

Kota gives some in depth reads. I disagree with the genny read though

Wondering also gives in depth reads. Loving how she sounds here

@BigCats 5-11 @ 3:40 PM

“I feel better about Barks today than I did yesterday but not lock-village by any means. Weirds me out looking at your lynch tracker how she's the first vote on both the Doggo counterwagon as well as the 3m wagon.”

Yeah I noticed this too and gave barks some wolf points. I feel like she might be driving the lynch in the wrong direction and will keep an eye out for how she votes today

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@BigCats 5-11 @ 6:00 PM

“Neato burrito, glad we had this chat”

You really kill me sometimes with the things you say lol although I think 1-800-IMA-WOLF is still my fave quote from you



Honestly based on the Suni interactions here I’m shocked not only was she the night kill choice but she also actually was telling the truth. If she was still alive I’d probably be lynching here today

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I have no comment here other than the abundance of shiny tinfoil. I’m worried we’re letting the tinfoil get the best of us and it’s leading us nowhere. Don’t forget, wolves like shiny tinfoil too!

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I strongly disagree with sporty’s analysis of BigCat’s here. She voted to lynch BC and it seems everyone disagreed with her. Idk why but it feels like sporty was trying to lead village in other directions. Especially since this was posted about an hour before lynch is closed.



Sporty puts out some shiny tinfoil that she thinks paws and coop are wolves without any explanation. This was done with less than an hour before lynch close.. idk it just feels like a distraction to me... especially since we now know paws is village

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I think it’s weird based on the tie that Paws didn’t self prez on to Sunni... I also think based on the tie and the traction sunni was getting that she was the night kill choice.

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@SportPonies you seem very frustrated that we didn’t lynch BigCats... I’m kind of wondering why.. I felt like your read of her was grasping at straws.. no offense. Maybe you just disagreed with her tone? Idk... her tone sounds like village!BC if you ask me



@BigCats 5-12 @ 10:38

“Also JOATs should probably claim tomorrow because we have two mislynches til LyLo and it would be pretty neat to have some confirmed villagers before whatever mess happens at LyLo (aka I am NOT dealing with fake joat claims at LyLo, y’all can spit those out sooner than that)”

Mehhh I have to disagree with this. Today being N4 means that JOATs have used their 3 abilities and will have some sort of results. Today they have the choice between all of their abilities. I suppose if JOATs outed themselves they could protect each other for one night. However, they would be open for wolves the following night and I just can’t see how it would be beneficial to village for them to out themselves. Plus people can still lie and there’s no way for us to know if someone is telling the truth. I think I may give you some wolf points for this

This is a super good analysis and I'm glad you did it, it helped me identify some people that have been flying below my radar.

 

[Barkley13]

I know I didn’t ask, but what are your thoughts today on BC and Genny?

BC I keep going back and forth on between slightly sketchy and neutral based on posts. I do like her vote on you though
Genny is still neutral like I’ve said before

 

[alissa14]

^^^ that post I just said should say
But... I feel like this could change based on what their interactions look like today...

 

[Barkley13]

@Barkley13 5-9 @ 9:40 PM

“Why is SAR sketchy”

Were you just not reading the same level of sketch as everyone else? I get it that everyone makes mistakes but this quote doesn’t age well

You reread everything but didn’t see that I was busy and not caught up at all when I said that?

 

[alissa14]

This is a super good analysis and I'm glad you did it, it helped me identify some people that have been flying below my radar.

Thank you!! That means a lot! I worked really hard on it and it actually put me to sleep last night so I finished it up this morning lol. I felt like wolves have been talking us in a circle and leading us in all the wrong directions so I took it upon myself to go back page by page and analyze based on our current knowledge. I also felt bad u haven’t contributed as much as I usually try to so I hope my hard work is paying off. Let’s catch a wolf today guys!!!

 

[Coopah]

Well I have a 67% accuracy rate on BC reads so I feel like we should go there.

 

[WonderingStudent]

Kota had an odd reaction to paws joking around and changing her quote. I also feel like a lot of her posts have been off but have a hard time seeing her as wolf based on where her vote ended up yesterday

Doggo's another one that has felt off but her voting for SAR over sunbodi makes me lean her more village in spite of the fact that her reads seem to echo other peoples

So basically the people I thought were sketchy based on posts/tone ended up voting for SAR so I'm having trouble seeing them as anything but village. So alissa, kota, and doggo are village rn

I really don't feel great about sunbodi, kota, wondering +/- sporty
Feel neutral about BC, paws, coop, genny
And villageish about alissa and doggo
I think that's everyone

Doggo was not based on posts because she’s been pretty echoey but is based on self prezzing to SAR over Sunni and how SAR voted her over Sunni too

So Doggo is village based on voting pattern but Kota's voting pattern Day 1 has become less important?

 

[Barkley13]

While this is accurate, I feel like I usually get more backlash (not sure if this is the right word... maybe flack? Criticism? Critique? Push?) from her and that’s pinging me as weird too.

😕
sorry would you prefer I wolf read you despite you being the deciding vote in the SAR vote and having villagey sounding posts?

 

[alissa14]

You reread everything but didn’t see that I was busy and not caught up at all when I said that?

I get that you were busy and not caught up.. but at that point SAR wasn’t even in the lead. She was gaining a few votes but was tied with Sunni at the time you posted this. I just thought it was odd to specifically point out SAR and only SAR When sunbodi was the lynch leader of the most recent rally that night.

 

[alissa14]

😕
sorry would you prefer I wolf read you despite you being the deciding vote in the SAR vote and having villagey sounding posts?

Lol I am just used to having to respond to you more like I am right now. That’s good though lol. This is sounding more like village barks

 

[Kota1000]

I also apologize if some of my thoughts come across rambly but I’m the person who types as they think so what you’re reading on thread is often my train of thought whooshing by choo choo

love how in-depth your analysis's are, however I disagree with your genny read, but that's just me. I might have to ISO barks and sporty today as you've made some good points on them.

Were you curious about her role or her affiliation??

What do you want clarification on? One day I was leaning village on her and the next day I updated my reads and had her as neutral instead

I was curious as to whether she was wolf or village, I honestly haven't even thought about actions until BC brought it up this morning

 

[Barkley13]

Do you have updated reads (since I'm basing on what you wrote yesterday)?

Why do you not feel great about sporty, myself and kota?

They’re pretty similar to yesterday
Kota has felt off to me pretty much this entire game and a lot of posts she has made have given me sketchy feels. She has also seemed pretty reactive this game (the post in response to paws “fify” post comes to mind but there’s also been others) and I don’t like how everything time someone votes for her or says she’s sketchy that she doesn’t really have a defense other than saying “maybe you should try actually wolf hunting”
Sporty is due to POE and how someone else mentioned I believe that the lynch keeps getting pushed away from her. So that combined with not having any village points from her posts
And my read on you isn’t really strong, I just keep having this thought in the back of my head that you’ve been really helpful and how cubs always points out that when he’s said that about you before you were a wolf

 

[Barkley13]

So Doggo is village based on voting pattern but Kota's voting pattern Day 1 has become less important?

Doggo is based not only on her voting pattern but also SAR’s. And I don’t think there were two wolves up for lynch on D1.
And yes kota’s has become less important because her posts have been so sketchy

 

[Barkley13]

I get that you were busy and not caught up.. but at that point SAR wasn’t even in the lead. She was gaining a few votes but was tied with Sunni at the time you posted this. I just thought it was odd to specifically point out SAR and only SAR When sunbodi was the lynch leader of the most recent rally that night.

Right, it was tied so she was in danger of being lynched. And I only pointed out SAR because I understood without reading why Sunni might be an easy D1 lynch

 

[Kota1000]

Alright, so with a quick ISO of Sporty, I noticed they use a lot of long, drawn out unimportant words as answers. The most prominent being hmmmm as a response, but I also saw a few others like sooooo

Hmmmm

HMMMMM

hmmmmmmmmm
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on her tone then haha
She just sounds saccharine sometimes, in a furry way.

This is rather odd to me, and I do not feel like the hmmm's are all that helpful. Additionally, they had said that they were going to be back with reads D2 after their hmmm post, but they didn't't post until later, and they did not provide many helpful reads for commenting that they were going to have some, and they haven't had a lot of reads to begin with. (did not quote this stuff, just something I noticed in association with the hmmm's)


So on the topic of their reads, they are usually very short and not very helpful as far as wolf hunting. They don't provide content that explains their feelings a lot, its generally just a statement that they think so-and-so is wolfy or village. Some of the better read examples: (which are still pretty vague)

I never know what to think about Paws, so I'm like, kind of okay with a lynch there, but I also don't personally have wolfy points for her, either.

Merp.
unlynch Doggo
My head hurts. And it wants there to be a wolf on the SAR vote. I think mpm is still a viable option with her placement, but like I said, her posts look better to me than they did before.
(@WildZoo I just noticed SDN automatically removes my double spacing after punctuation)

dunno who I want to vote for. I'm leaning Paws I think.

I think I am going to move sporty into wolfy territory. I do not know if genny and sporty seem pack-like however as there have not been a lot of interactions between the two, but I could see BC and Sporty as a pack. I will have to keep digging, and I may switch my vote.

 

[Kota1000]

They’re pretty similar to yesterday
Kota has felt off to me pretty much this entire game and a lot of posts she has made have given me sketchy feels. She has also seemed pretty reactive this game (the post in response to paws “fify” post comes to mind but there’s also been others) and I don’t like how everything time someone votes for her or says she’s sketchy that she doesn’t really have a defense other than saying “maybe you should try actually wolf hunting”
Sporty is due to POE and how someone else mentioned I believe that the lynch keeps getting pushed away from her. So that combined with not having any village points from her posts
And my read on you isn’t really strong, I just keep having this thought in the back of my head that you’ve been really helpful and how cubs always points out that when he’s said that about you before you were a wolf

I explained the fify post 2 or 3 times already. I did not know that it meant "fix it for you" so I don't know what else you want me to say. I do not know a lot fo acronyms in WW yet, and I have had to look a lot up this game including WIFOM and VCA.

The only reason I tell people to try and wolf hunt on my lynches is because they have not had very good defense. BC's reasoning was because they talked them selves into circles yesterday, and Coopah's reasoning was because they had a "voice" that told them to, and when I asked for further explanation they did not provide any. I understand lynching based on feels, but you should be able to point out posts or actions that made you feel that way.

 

[alissa14]

Right, it was tied so she was in danger of being lynched. And I only pointed out SAR because I understood without reading why Sunni might be an easy D1 lynch

Fair enough I was just making a note of it just like I made a note of BC questioning the SAR lynch as well.

 

[Kota1000]

These are the interactions I found between genny and Sports. I do find it interesting that genny had a small "hm" on one of her only posts about sporty, but I do not think it indicates a pack. After looking at these interactions and noticing some with BC as well, I do not think BC and Sporty are in a pack, and I feel better about a Genny-sporty pack.


1. This first interaction rubs me the wrong way

Funny, I've felt like her tone has been pretty village, and that's what's kept me from lynching her thus far. The flip off SAR + "oh darn I got fooled again" reaction afterwards definitely skeeved me out.

hmmmmmmmmm
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on her tone then haha
She just sounds saccharine sometimes, in a furry way.

This reminds me of the 2 cats I had to shave today.

2. I did find this interesting exchange, but not super important in my opinion. Although if genny and sporty are a pack, it could be genny reminding sporty to vote. However, genny did not tag sporty so I think its NAI

hm. i don't like sporty and paws not voting.

dunno who I want to vote for. I'm leaning Paws I think.

3. This exchange made me do a double take. It just doesn't seem like an exchange between two V/V to me. Also the last sentence by genny seemed like a slight agreement towards sporty...

Tone here just sounds... forced happy-nice. Sorry in advance to BC if she actually was just being happy-nice and is village lol. But this post just made me squint real hard when it happened and again on ISO

Funny, I've felt like her tone has been pretty village, and that's what's kept me from lynching her thus far. The flip off SAR + "oh darn I got fooled again" reaction afterwards definitely skeeved me out.

I am going to wait to do a Lynch switch, just due to majority vote. I know majority is 5 and there's only like 1 vote on sporty, but still going to wait for now

 

[BigCats]

This is such a bad idea I'm giving you side eye. They should keep their freaking heads down until they have something important to share and even then, try without outting yourself. (lesson if a noob is JOAT)

Welcome to the wolf list.

Lynch BC

Okay? It’s like 30% odds of a joat getting NKed tonight based on just straight RNG. Do it, don’t do it, whatever, but there comes a point when information is more valuable for gamesolving than individual players’ lives. Also, it’ll be N4 tonight, JOATs should have already run through their action series and can choose whatever they want to do tonight. It’s really not the worst time to start sharing info.

 

[Barkley13]

I explained the fify post 2 or 3 times already. I did not know that it meant "fix it for you" so I don't know what else you want me to say. I do not know a lot fo acronyms in WW yet, and I have had to look a lot up this game including WIFOM and VCA.

The only reason I tell people to try and wolf hunt on my lynches is because they have not had very good defense. BC's reasoning was because they talked them selves into circles yesterday, and Coopah's reasoning was because they had a "voice" that told them to, and when I asked for further explanation they did not provide any. I understand lynching based on feels, but you should be able to point out posts or actions that made you feel that way.

I know you explained it but I still think your reaction was sketchy
Also I don’t know about coop, but I think BC talked about you quite a bit before actually lynching you. And either way people are still wolf hunting by bringing you up for discussion/placing a vote there even if you don’t agree with it

 

[BigCats]

Well I have a 67% accuracy rate on BC reads so I feel like we should go there.

Sorry to hear you’re losing your touch. Same as when you thought I’d rojoed on D1, you’re crazy if you think I, as one of two wolves left standing and with a heavy cloud of suspicion already over me, would be asking for folks to role reveal unless you just think I enjoy making things infinitely harder for my last partner now that I’ve been lynched and tracking now works as seering, with motion detector also working as seering if another joat dies. But sure, keep on thinking I’m just a really terrible wolf.

 

[Coopah]

Sorry to hear you’re losing your touch. Same as when you thought I’d rojoed on D1, you’re crazy if you think I, as one of two wolves left standing and with a heavy cloud of suspicion already over me, would be asking for folks to role reveal unless you just think I enjoy making things infinitely harder for my last partner now that I’ve been lynched and tracking now works as seering, with motion detector also working as seering if another joat dies. But sure, keep on thinking I’m just a really terrible wolf.

I feel like this is a wolfy backlash honestly. Besides I maintain I've got an excellent record with you, we'll see if I maintain basically 100% 😉

 

[Kota1000]

I know you explained it but I still think your reaction was sketchy
Also I don’t know about coop, but I think BC talked about you quite a bit before actually lynching you. And either way people are still wolf hunting by bringing you up for discussion/placing a vote there even if you don’t agree with it

I don't think people targeting me isn't wolf hunting, I just think when they don't provide explanations their votes could be used else where. Like I respect your sketchiness towards me as you have provided valid reasoning that supports your claim.

 

[kaydubs]

Day 4 Lynch Tally
Kota (1) - BC
genny (1) - Kota
BC (1) - Coop

3/9
lynch close in ~6 hours

 

[alissa14]

Sorry to hear you’re losing your touch. Same as when you thought I’d rojoed on D1, you’re crazy if you think I, as one of two wolves left standing and with a heavy cloud of suspicion already over me, would be asking for folks to role reveal unless you just think I enjoy making things infinitely harder for my last partner now that I’ve been lynched and tracking now works as seering, with motion detector also working as seering if another joat dies. But sure, keep on thinking I’m just a really terrible wolf.

Hi where did you get this info? I’m not seeing it in the role description of what the JOAT can do.

 

[WonderingStudent]

Hi where did you get this info? I’m not seeing it in the role description of what the JOAT can do.

It makes it much easier to clear people for JOATs with the tracking and motion detector ability when only one wolf is left. That wolf HAS to be the one to do the NK. If we get down to one wolf, a JOAT saying they didn't detect any movement from a player = they are not a wolf.

 

[BigCats]

Hi where did you get this info? I’m not seeing it in the role description of what the JOAT can do.

So if there's one 1 wolf left, wolves still *have* to submit a kill every night, so if you track me and I don't go anywhere, you know I'm not the JOAT and I'm also not a wolf. That's what I mean by tracking is equivalent to seering at this stage. Currently if you track me and I don't go anywhere, the only thing you know is that I'm not the other JOAT, I could still be a wolf who just didn't perform the kill or I could be vanilla town.

Additionally, if one JOAT dies, motion detecting becomes a lot more useful. If you detect motion on someone, then you know they're either a wolf or they just died lmao. Currently if you detect motion around me, I could be the wolf performing a factional kill, either affiliation being protected/tracked/motion detected by the other JOAT, or the other JOAT. Not very specific. But if you know what the other JOAT has done the past few days, you can compare it with your own results- "hmm, I detected motion from BC on N2 but the other JOAT was off tracking someone else, therefore BC must be a wolf".

Furthermore, the reason why I really don't want to have to parse through competing JOAT claims at LyLo is because it'll be way harder to verify fakeclaims then- I guess you could hope that wolves post their fake results first and the real JOATs have competing results, but honestly wolves could also take advantage of that and try to spin a real JOAT as a liar and win the game that way. If JOATs were to claim tomorrow, even if there's three claims, JOATs could go tracking that night to see who was actually lying or not.

 

[WonderingStudent]

@alissa14 if you are saying you can't find where it says the specific abilities of a JOAT, it is in a spoiler description in AMs first post.

 

[alissa14]

@alissa14 if you are saying you can't find where it says the specific abilities of a JOAT, it is in a spoiler description in AMs first post.

I just didn’t understand BC’s claim that their ability is now a seering ability that’s all... she explained it well though

 

[Coopah]

So if there's one 1 wolf left, wolves still *have* to submit a kill every night, so if you track me and I don't go anywhere, you know I'm not the JOAT and I'm also not a wolf. That's what I mean by tracking is equivalent to seering at this stage. Currently if you track me and I don't go anywhere, the only thing you know is that I'm not the other JOAT, I could still be a wolf who just didn't perform the kill or I could be vanilla town.

Additionally, if one JOAT dies, motion detecting becomes a lot more useful. If you detect motion on someone, then you know they're either a wolf or they just died lmao. Currently if you detect motion around me, I could be the wolf performing a factional kill, either affiliation being protected/tracked/motion detected by the other JOAT, or the other JOAT. Not very specific. But if you know what the other JOAT has done the past few days, you can compare it with your own results- "hmm, I detected motion from BC on N2 but the other JOAT was off tracking someone else, therefore BC must be a wolf".

Furthermore, the reason why I really don't want to have to parse through competing JOAT claims at LyLo is because it'll be way harder to verify fakeclaims then- I guess you could hope that wolves post their fake results first and the real JOATs have competing results, but honestly wolves could also take advantage of that and try to spin a real JOAT as a liar and win the game that way. If JOATs were to claim tomorrow, even if there's three claims, JOATs could go tracking that night to see who was actually lying or not.

Your statement is assuming there's only one wolf left. Want to give up your packmate so that can be true?

More than that right now there's a decent chance they don't have any viable information. What use would that be to make them reveal? Right now your justification makes literally no sense.

 

[Kota1000]

So if there's one 1 wolf left, wolves still *have* to submit a kill every night, so if you track me and I don't go anywhere, you know I'm not the JOAT and I'm also not a wolf. That's what I mean by tracking is equivalent to seering at this stage. Currently if you track me and I don't go anywhere, the only thing you know is that I'm not the other JOAT, I could still be a wolf who just didn't perform the kill or I could be vanilla town.

Additionally, if one JOAT dies, motion detecting becomes a lot more useful. If you detect motion on someone, then you know they're either a wolf or they just died lmao. Currently if you detect motion around me, I could be the wolf performing a factional kill, either affiliation being protected/tracked/motion detected by the other JOAT, or the other JOAT. Not very specific. But if you know what the other JOAT has done the past few days, you can compare it with your own results- "hmm, I detected motion from BC on N2 but the other JOAT was off tracking someone else, therefore BC must be a wolf".

Furthermore, the reason why I really don't want to have to parse through competing JOAT claims at LyLo is because it'll be way harder to verify fakeclaims then- I guess you could hope that wolves post their fake results first and the real JOATs have competing results, but honestly wolves could also take advantage of that and try to spin a real JOAT as a liar and win the game that way. If JOATs were to claim tomorrow, even if there's three claims, JOATs could go tracking that night to see who was actually lying or not.

You have done a lot of putting yourself in the position of a wolf, its an interesting way of explaining things.

 

[Doggo Labs]

After sunni flipped village genny has gone up in my list. I'm not sure if I'm ready to vote there, but it is on the table of possibilities for me.

 

[BigCats]

Your statement is assuming there's only one wolf left. Want to give up your packmate so that can be true?

More than that right now there's a decent chance they don't have any viable information. What use would that be to make them reveal? Right now your justification makes literally no sense.

Alissa was asking why I said that it would be stupid of me to out myself and get lynched since that would screw over my partner by making tracking equivalent to seering. My statement is explaining exactly why this would screw over my partner on the off chance that I'm a wolf who gets lynched today and there is therefore only one wolf left, except surprise, I'm not a wolf. I'm very curious which of the remaining players you think I hate enough to completely screw them over like this tbh.

Tomorrow is the optimal day for revealing, assuming there's another mislynch today, in order to balance out both getting the most information possible as well as being able to share this info along with limiting counterclaims. There's literally no way to know how useful the information is or not unless it's shared and able to be cross-referenced. But cool, I can't wait til LyLo when there are three people claiming JOAT and y'all have to deal with that on top of the usual LyLo craziness.

 

[WonderingStudent]

After sunni flipped village genny has gone up in my list. I'm not sure if I'm ready to vote there, but it is on the table of possibilities for me.

I was just about to tag you to ask your thoughts at the moment.
Whats the sunni - genny connections?

 

[BigCats]

You have done a lot of putting yourself in the position of a wolf, its an interesting way of explaining things.

Freudian slip? Or trying to explain things in the most neutral way I can? You decide!

 

[Doggo Labs]

@BigCats I get why you want the JOATs to reveal themselves, but I do not think that today is the day. The wolves could too easily jump on that

 

[Doggo Labs]

I was just about to tag you to ask your thoughts at the moment.
Whats the sunni - genny connections?

I could go find the connections but it was D2 when sunni came back on. Something felt off about genny and sunnis interactions. I was reading it WvV. Know that we know sunni is V makes me think genny is the W.

 

[Doggo Labs]

@alissa14 in regards to the post you tagged me in in your reads list, it was a SDN glitch. I've been experiencing a lot of those lately on my phone, trying to stick to my computer now because it seems to work better

 

[WonderingStudent]

@genny how do you feel about barks?

 

[alissa14]

@BigCats @WonderingStudent @Doggo Labs I would like to know your thoughts on Sporty or if my long analysis led me down a tunnel to nowhere lol.

 

[Barkley13]

@BigCats I get why you want the JOATs to reveal themselves, but I do not think that today is the day. The wolves could too easily jump on that

I mean she didn’t say today was the day and multiple people have already said this. This is what I meant by echoey

 

[Barkley13]

Also I haven’t been able to find it with the search function and can’t remember who said it but someone was questioning why doggo didn’t die N1. Which is still relevant

 

[BigCats]

@BigCats @WonderingStudent @Doggo Labs I would like to know your thoughts on Sporty or if my long analysis led me down a tunnel to nowhere lol.

I originally put her slightly village because she made one post that was just so, no offence, bad it had to be village but I haven't really gotten any points for her since then.

 

[BigCats]

Also I haven’t been able to find it with the search function and can’t remember who said it but someone was questioning why doggo didn’t die N1. Which is still relevant

Think it was Paws? I was thinking this earlier which is leaning me towards Kota + someone who's not reading the thread terribly closely.

 

[WonderingStudent]

@BigCats @WonderingStudent @Doggo Labs I would like to know your thoughts on Sporty or if my long analysis led me down a tunnel to nowhere lol.

As you can see based on where my votes have been, I don't think that looking into sporty is crazy or anything. I don't have anything thats putting her in wolfy territory. It's my POE and posts that aren't giving me village vibes (but that doesn't mean much; just saying they are neutral feelings).

Just putting this out there:
I still have tinfoils that Coop and/or Paws are wolves.

Like I said. It's a tinfoil and I'd rather lynch BC.

And frankly, becoming less convinced by it as the seconds tick by right now.

I could read Sporty not jumping on the Paws lynch when she had her suspicions of paws as staying off a villager lynch that is most likely going to flip that day. But I can also see it as a villager that's just reading BC differently than you and thought BC felt more wolfy but was still running through possible wolf combinations.

 

[Kota1000]

Think it was Paws? I was thinking this earlier which is leaning me towards Kota + someone who's not reading the thread terribly closely.

How does paws commenting on doggo make me suspect?

 

[Coopah]

Alissa was asking why I said that it would be stupid of me to out myself and get lynched since that would screw over my partner by making tracking equivalent to seering. My statement is explaining exactly why this would screw over my partner on the off chance that I'm a wolf who gets lynched today and there is therefore only one wolf left, except surprise, I'm not a wolf. I'm very curious which of the remaining players you think I hate enough to completely screw them over like this tbh.

Tomorrow is the optimal day for revealing, assuming there's another mislynch today, in order to balance out both getting the most information possible as well as being able to share this info along with limiting counterclaims. There's literally no way to know how useful the information is or not unless it's shared and able to be cross-referenced. But cool, I can't wait til LyLo when there are three people claiming JOAT and y'all have to deal with that on top of the usual LyLo craziness.

I find it interesting your defense is "I would have to hate my partner" or "I can't be this stupid" I'm definitely not calling you that, but I have seen this defense many times from wolves where things just didn't go as expected and they ended up here. Or their preemptively thinking what would the village expect wolf!BC to do and do the opposite.

tl;dr you saying if you did this would make you a crappy woof is a crappy defense