MPH Fall 2018: Applied, Accepted, Waitlisted, Rejected!

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Just got my financial aid award letter from Yale just now (which was a very long email which included all of the ways you can pay for your education). The $68k/year price is discouraging me from pursuing the dream of studying there. Feels like such a punishment when all I want to do is work in the non-profit sector and help folks get better access to care. They said they would let "a small number" of scholarship recipients know later on whether they got funding. Not holding out hope I'm one of them, since they are not known for good financial aid packages (I've been working for the last couple of years and don't qualify for any need-based aid).

Sorry to be a downer, but what are people's thoughts on taking out this much money (six-figure debt) to work in the public sector? I don't want to give up just yet, but my instinct is to run from the debt (especially since I escaped undergrad debt-free).

Six-figure debt seems like an unreasonable amount of debt to go into for an MPH, IMO. Yale is a great school, but I feel like if you have other options that would cost less, they might be the better options.
 
Both schools have their plusses and minuses, Brown is definitely a very strong school global health wise, and if this was my primary concern when faced with this decision that I might well go there. Columbia is a prestigious program, though Brown's reputation seems to improve every year, and if you are interested in the policy side of things, Columbia is a good program.

Thanks so much!! I really appreciate it. I am considering a certificate in global health if I do end up deciding on Columbia. I'm interested in policy, but I think I do lean a bit more towards global health. I'm struggling to find more information, reviews, etc. on Brown so any other resources would be awesome!
 
I wonder why they would do that? Is your background all research?

I wish we could ask the committee these questions.
That could be why! I do have a very strong research background, but I'm looking to get more into governmental/NGO work, not academia. Does anyone have thoughts on whether that's still possible with an MS in Global Health rather than an MPH?

That’s what happened to me too like a month ago. Congrats!!
You too! What an interesting situation. How do you feel about it? I reallllly don't like that it's more expensive.
 
Thanks so much!! I really appreciate it. I am considering a certificate in global health if I do end up deciding on Columbia. I'm interested in policy, but I think I do lean a bit more towards global health. I'm struggling to find more information, reviews, etc. on Brown so any other resources would be awesome!
I'm a student at Brown now; feel free to PM me with questions. Most of the courses I have taken are in social/behavioral science and epi, though... not sure if I can be helpful on enviro and global advice.
 
Two months ago I mistakenly thought I would be able to make my decision of where to attend by March 1st. It’s currently March 1st and hardly anyone on here knows where they are doing. Here’s to the next 2-3 stressful weeks of waiting!
 
Two months ago I mistakenly thought I would be able to make my decision of where to attend by March 1st. It’s currently March 1st and hardly anyone on here knows where they are doing. Here’s to the next 2-3 stressful weeks of waiting!

We're all in this together (insert high school musical gif)!

I was trying to post a gif, but I don't meet the requirements yet 😛.
 
has ANYONE who applied to SM epi program at Harvard heard back yet? I'm getting really worried that most other departments have released decisions....
 
I know a lot of us here are still waiting, if that helps. Not sure it means anything.

I'm really glad I'm not alone in freaking out waiting....it feels very unfair that they can make us wait this long for admissions decisions and then expect a month (or less!) turnaround time! Also I need to figure out if I have to take time off work to go to admitted student day or not. I wonder if Harvard will be shut down tomorrow because of the snowstorm that's going to hit and if that will impact release of decisions?
 
I'm really glad I'm not alone in freaking out waiting....it feels very unfair that they can make us wait this long for admissions decisions and then expect a month (or less!) turnaround time! Also I need to figure out if I have to take time off work to go to admitted student day or not. I wonder if Harvard will be shut down tomorrow because of the snowstorm that's going to hit and if that will impact release of decisions?
I live in Boston and we only have heavy rain on the forecast tomorrow, so Harvard should be open.
 
Any uwash global health get the RA position at START center, I didn't get... currently pained!!
 
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I live in Boston and we only have heavy rain on the forecast tomorrow, so Harvard should be open.
Good to know. Here in Bmore we're getting lots of rain and high winds and JHU is trigger-happy when it comes to shutting/delaying the university.
 
LOL well if you haven't heard back, I definitely don't expect to hear anything anytime soon! Good luck!! I hope you get in!
I received an email on January 16th...I called admissions office on Monday and they said everything should be out within the next 2 weeks (so technically a little over 1 week left!!)
 
Has anyone been able to successfully appeal for more need-based funding from their schools? Just got Harvard’s financial aid offer and it is....... paltry, to say the least.
I got into BU and since I went there for undergrad I made my case saying I still have loans and they said they would reconsider and take a look again at financial aid. Definitely try!
 
has ANYONE who applied to SM epi program at Harvard heard back yet? I'm getting really worried that most other departments have released decisions....

I know a lot of us here are still waiting, if that helps. Not sure it means anything.

I was accepted on Monday, but I'm sure that there's going to be more coming in early March - I think there were people hearing back from previous years in March, so don't lose hope!
 
Has anyone still not received their official Graduate Division acceptance letter from UC Berkeley? I got the "recommended for acceptance" email on Feb 12th. So on edge!
 
Has anyone still not received their official Graduate Division acceptance letter from UC Berkeley? I got the "recommended for acceptance" email on Feb 12th. So on edge!
Congrats on your acceptance! Still waiting on an admissions decision from Berkeley, so trust me when I say I am on edge as well.. 😛.
 
For those of you who are admitted to harvard-45, what do you think about the summer school?
I am thinking about attending since I only got one year
But i also have other equally important things to do at that time
What would be the drawback of not attending?
 
Yes, I submitted the FAFSA and the BU specific form earlier this week and received a need based scholarship and Federal Loans

Hi- I have been accepted to BU and it's one of my top choices but need to consider finances and want to fill out their aid form online but it says I need a BU ID, how and when did you get this? In my acceptance email it says to fill out the BU aid form after the FAFSA but didn't give me an ID number.

Also congrats!! Both are great schools
 
Does anyone know if it is possible to change your certificate/concentration at either Columbia or Hopkins? I am wondering if there is flexibility if I decide to commit to one of the schools. Thanks!
 
How bad do grades have to get for admission to be revoked?
I may would get 2 Cs this quarter. (Overall still above 3.3) I am really worried about that. Can someone give me some advice? Thanks A LOT!
 
How bad do grades have to get for admission to be revoked?
I may would get 2 Cs this quarter. (Overall still above 3.3) I am really worried about that. Can someone give me some advice? Thanks A LOT!

Your admission won't be revoked for that, no worries.
 
Rejected from Harvard-65 mph in Global Health. Straight up humbled. I have a pretty strong background in international health + Fulbright Scholarship so I was pretty shooketh with the rejection (lol). But this makes my decision considerably easier!!!!!!

I am deciding between JHU, Brown, and Emory 🙂 Anyone else out there who is strongly considering the MSPH at JHU?
 
Undergrad School: Private Jesuit University
Undergrad GPA/Major GPA: 3.45 (sophas)
Major/Minor: Major - Applied Mathematics/ Minor - Chemistry


GRE (including date taken) or Other Test (if applicable): V:162; Q:164; AW:5.0 (Taken Nov. 2015)
Experience/Research (please, be brief):
- 6 month Finance Internship at leading performance improvement healthcare institution
- 9 month Healthcare Ethics internship at a regional Catholic hospital
- 12 month internship working in Medicare & Medicaid finance for a large health system
- 2.5 years working in finance and operations for the administration at an urban medical center (~500 Physicians)
Special factors:

***Please include the following whenever possible: specific concentration/track, dates, type of correspondence (phone, email, letter, etc.), scholarships/grants.***

Interested in: Healthcare Management
Applied
(include the date of application): Harvard 65 MPH - Health Management (submitted 11/21)
Accepted: Harvard 65 MPH - Health Management (3/1) around 8 AM PST
Rejected:
Waitlisted:

 
Thanks a lot. That is cheering. But are you sure? Cause I saw on post on the other website said that one student got revoked for terrible GPA.
They could have gotten revoked for getting Ds or Fs. Maybe they had a conditional acceptance that required a B or better in a class but they got a C. If your only "condition" on your acceptance letter was proof of a degree, you'll be fine.
 
Undergrad School: Private Top 5 University
Undergrad GPA/Major GPA: 3.12 (sophas)
Major/Minor: Major - Human Biology

GRE (including date taken) or Other Test (if applicable): V:152; Q:157; AW:4.5 (Taken Oct. 2017)
Experience/Research (please, be brief):
- Biomedical ethics research for .5 years
- Community health worker research at a trauma center (1 year)

Special factors:
- First gen student/first in family to graduate college + go to grad school
- Founded a nonprofit
- Work in local government's health agency (2 years)

***Please include the following whenever possible: specific concentration/track, dates, type of correspondence (phone, email, letter, etc.), scholarships/grants.***

Interested in: Healthcare Management
Applied
(include the date of application): UCI (12/15), UCLA CHS (12/1), UCB HSB (12/1), Emory (1/5), Yale (1/5), Columbia (1/15)
Accepted: Columbia, UCLA, UCB, Emory
Rejected: Withdrew UCI App
Waitlisted:

Currently deciding between Columbia and UCB. UCB has an advocacy component to their program that's a HUGE plus for me. But Columbia is an AMAZING school and has so many resources I can tap into.

Has anyone heard from Yale yet?
 
Hi all - I’m heavily considering Yale right now but I read somewhere that YSPH does not compute the grade point average (GPA) or class rank of its students. Students are graded only to provide them with a formal evaluation of their understanding of the concepts presented in their courses. How would this work for someone applying to PHD programs after? Does anyone who is attending Yale know how the school would compute GPAs for those who do need that to apply to PhD prgorams/does that make you less competitive when applying?
 
Does anyone know if it is possible to change your certificate/concentration at either Columbia or Hopkins? I am wondering if there is flexibility if I decide to commit to one of the schools. Thanks!

It may depend on the department at Hopkins, but I think it would be easy. I applied for MHS in Health Policy and Management (health economics), but didn't realize health economics is in two departments! I had a call with Health Policy (they reached out and offered) and they told me if I wanted to switch to international health it shouldn't be a big deal. I'm definitely going to do that if I end up doing MHS at Hopkins since I want to go into global health. Now if only the MPH program would give me a decision!
 
I am deciding between JHU, Brown, and Emory 🙂 Anyone else out there who is strongly considering the MSPH at JHU?
Me!! Is anyone else interested in maybe making a group/thread for us? I feel like it’s hard to find information on the program and I keep spamming here hah. I’ve had calls with two current students (GDEC) and I’d be happy to share their thoughts!
 
Me!! Is anyone else interested in maybe making a group/thread for us? I feel like it’s hard to find information on the program and I keep spamming here hah. I’ve had calls with two current students (GDEC) and I’d be happy to share their thoughts!
YESsss i dont know how to make a group but I think that's a great idea !!
 
Hi all - I’m heavily considering Yale right now but I read somewhere that YSPH does not compute the grade point average (GPA) or class rank of its students. Students are graded only to provide them with a formal evaluation of their understanding of the concepts presented in their courses. How would this work for someone applying to PHD programs after? Does anyone who is attending Yale know how the school would compute GPAs for those who do need that to apply to PhD prgorams/does that make you less competitive when applying?
Brown does more or less the same thing-- no rank, no GPA, and the only possible grades are A/B/C/D/F (no plus/minus options). I am sure PhD programs are familiar with the conventions at these schools and that it won't be a problem. I have used online GPA calculators to figure out what my GPA is for different types of applications and never had a problem with self-calculations being accepted. My undergrad also didn't do GPA/rank (or really even grades). PhD programs will see your full transcript anyway.
 
Just got my financial aid award letter from Yale just now (which was a very long email which included all of the ways you can pay for your education). The $68k/year price is discouraging me from pursuing the dream of studying there. Feels like such a punishment when all I want to do is work in the non-profit sector and help folks get better access to care. They said they would let "a small number" of scholarship recipients know later on whether they got funding. Not holding out hope I'm one of them, since they are not known for good financial aid packages (I've been working for the last couple of years and don't qualify for any need-based aid).

Sorry to be a downer, but what are people's thoughts on taking out this much money (six-figure debt) to work in the public sector? I don't want to give up just yet, but my instinct is to run from the debt (especially since I escaped undergrad debt-free).


I received a financial aid award letter from Yale a while ago. It was super long, but didn't mention anything about loans amounts given, etc. Did you receive a previous award letter or does this one just contain the "need-based" and "merit based" info that Yale is giving. I'm confused on why their letter does not contain information about specific loan amounts too, etc.
 
Me!! Is anyone else interested in maybe making a group/thread for us? I feel like it’s hard to find information on the program and I keep spamming here hah. I’ve had calls with two current students (GDEC) and I’d be happy to share their thoughts!
I'd like to join this and hear what they've had to say! I'm also considering GDEC
 
I received a financial aid award letter from Yale a while ago. It was super long, but didn't mention anything about loans amounts given, etc. Did you receive a previous award letter or does this one just contain the "need-based" and "merit based" info that Yale is giving. I'm confused on why their letter does not contain information about specific loan amounts too, etc.

I received no prior letter, just this one. And I, too, was surprised that this wasn’t specific to the loan amounts for which you were eligible. My letter from UIC broke it all down for me, and gave me the option to accept/decline awards through their student portal. Was hoping Yale’s would be similar.
 
Hello everyone,
Has anyone heard anything back from University of Texas Health Science Center (Houston location) yet? Thanks, and congrats to everyone.
 
Hi all - I’m heavily considering Yale right now but I read somewhere that YSPH does not compute the grade point average (GPA) or class rank of its students. Students are graded only to provide them with a formal evaluation of their understanding of the concepts presented in their courses. How would this work for someone applying to PHD programs after? Does anyone who is attending Yale know how the school would compute GPAs for those who do need that to apply to PhD programs/does that make you less competitive when applying?
It is true that Yale does not calculate GPAs. YSPH's grading system is Honors/High Pass/Pass/Fail for classes that evaluate performance, and the numeric cutoffs for each of these marks can be different in every class. Classes based on attendance alone, such as required seminar courses, are Satisfactory/Unsatisfactory...we end up in with transcripts covered in Hs, HPs, Ps, and Ss. The goal of this is to encourage collaboration as there is no competition for class rank. When you apply to PhD programs or jobs or anything else, Yale will refuse to do a GPA conversion, even if wherever you apply to asks for one. They know the difference between Honors/High Pass/Pass can be different in different classes, so they have no way to convert these marks into a standardized GPA. Students raised concern about applying to PhD programs/med school during my orientation, and we were basically told that Yale MPH students have great success applying to PhD/medical programs. They told us that the programs we apply to are always able to figure out our transcripts and are more concerned with overall success in our programs than exact GPAs. We were assured it would not hurt us in any way. I definitely see that students here are successfully being admitted to amazing programs, so I do believe this is true. I wouldn't worry about it at all. I truly cannot imagine Yale sticking with a system that would hurt their students or their program placement rates.

Also, I find it less stressful to move though the program focusing on each class individually rather than worrying about an overall GPA. I have actually really liked this set up and I do believe it is beneficial.
 
I was accepted by them on 12/13/17
Okay. Congrats to you!!! That’s amazing! I literally just submitted my application last week so I’m anxious lol. I know I have to wait the 4-6 weeks though. Thank you for replying and congrats to you again!
 
It is true that Yale does not calculate GPAs. YSPH's grading system is Honors/High Pass/Pass/Fail for classes that evaluate performance, and the numeric cutoffs for each of these marks can be different in every class. Classes based on attendance alone, such as required seminar courses, are Satisfactory/Unsatisfactory...we end up in with transcripts covered in Hs, HPs, Ps, and Ss. The goal of this is to encourage collaboration as there is no competition for class rank. When you apply to PhD programs or jobs or anything else, Yale will refuse to do a GPA conversion, even if wherever you apply to asks for one. They know the difference between Honors/High Pass/Pass can be different in different classes, so they have no way to convert these marks into a standardized GPA. Students raised concern about applying to PhD programs/med school during my orientation, and we were basically told that Yale MPH students have great success applying to PhD/medical programs. They told us that the programs we apply to are always able to figure out our transcripts and are more concerned with overall success in our programs than exact GPAs. We were assured it would not hurt us in any way. I definitely see that students here are successfully being admitted to amazing programs, so I do believe this is true. I wouldn't worry about it at all. I truly cannot imagine Yale sticking with a system that would hurt their students or their program placement rates.

Also, I find it less stressful to move though the program focusing on each class individually rather than worrying about an overall GPA. I have actually really liked this set up and I do believe it is beneficial.

Wow thanks for that! If I decide to attend Yale for an MPH, I would prefer to stay at the same institution for a PhD program. To your knowledge - does the Yale PhD program give preference to Yale MPH students (only asking because I know they accept >45 students and the grading system is somewhat unconventional - it would be nice to have an upper hand in the application process). Also, what do you think of the prospects of getting an RA/TA position during the second year (or even second semester). I have very limited research experience and am primarily using my Masters to build up research skills to ultimately earn a PhD. I have heard from students at JHU that their MSPH sets them up with essential research skills but wanted to see if Yale was comparable in setting students up with quant. skills. And one last question! I was accepted into Yale's Health Policy program for some reason when I applied to their Social Behavior Sciences program -- I was wondering if it would be possible to switch concentrations (It's true that I have a lot of health policy experience which is why I was probably moved into that concentration but applied to SBS so that I could grow my research skills). Thanks for your help - very insightful!
 
Has anyone heard back from UNC Gillings, specifically Health Behavior? Anxiously awaiting! Also, is anyone else doing a MPH/MURP dual degree??
 
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