Out of curiosity, is it possible to pay a deposit and commit to two places, while you try to figure out grad assistantships and weigh out the two options? Cause I know it’s possible to commit to a school and change your mind, you just wouldn’t get your money back. Just so many things are up in the air and won’t be settled by April 15th. 😓
MPH / MSPH 2021: Applied, Accepted, Waitlisted, Rejected, Attending
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wow i was literally just thinking is anyone else thinking about SDSU !! what is your reasoning ?
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I am so curious about this as well!!!
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Hi everyone.
I know this kind of question is irritating but I would like to hear y'all opinion.
I am conflicting between Emory HPM vs JHSPH HPM. I am offered REAL program from Emory and $18,000 scholarship from JHU.
I lean to Emory since I believe the program will provide me a chance to be hired to the CDC after the graduation (I'm an int student hoping to pursue its career in the US or abroad). However, my colleagues working in Public Health field in my country told me I should go to the JHU because it's #1 school in Public Health.
They also said generally student don't choose Emory when it's compared to JHU.
I just would like to hear your opinion about what my colleagues said. Please help me with this problem😭
I know this kind of question is irritating but I would like to hear y'all opinion.
I am conflicting between Emory HPM vs JHSPH HPM. I am offered REAL program from Emory and $18,000 scholarship from JHU.
I lean to Emory since I believe the program will provide me a chance to be hired to the CDC after the graduation (I'm an int student hoping to pursue its career in the US or abroad). However, my colleagues working in Public Health field in my country told me I should go to the JHU because it's #1 school in Public Health.
They also said generally student don't choose Emory when it's compared to JHU.
I just would like to hear your opinion about what my colleagues said. Please help me with this problem😭
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I think CDC only provides internships or jobs to US citizens /PR not international students or graduates. I searched on their website for internship/fellowship opportunities and saw citizenship as a criteria for selection. Please do correct me if I am wrong!
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imo yes
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is it JHU MPH? i was told the sams thing about jhu too
Hey thanks for your comment. Actually they do accept some international interns/researchers every year. I know at least two Japanese Emory graduates get job position in CDC over the past few years. But as you concern the background check is getting severe. That's why I lean to Emory. If I can built a connection with CDC while I'm in the MPH program (actually it provides a lot of opportunities to work with CDC), I can have higher chance to work there rather than studying in JHU.
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Yes, Im accepted to the MPH program
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Not sure if this question has been asked but are there any international students here who know of external funding sources/scholarships i can apply for? (Please PM me if you know of any, i will appreciate it).
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Oh if that is the case than Emory sounds like an amazing institution to make connections! Congratulations on your admissions by the way ☺️☺️
Is it possible? Yes. Schools know that there is some drop off for attendance after the deadline due to students securing spots at multiple schools. If you're willing to pay the security deposit for multiple schools, go for it. You won't be penalized.
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After so long going back and forth about an MPH and then with schools and applying and financial aid stress, I've officially committed to Yale today and I could not be more thrilled. Thank you SO much to everyone on this forum for such incredible support - I can't wait to see what we all do next!
And for anyone still between Yale and another school, please consider this as you make your decision (it might be the cherry on top!!):
news.yale.edu
And for anyone still between Yale and another school, please consider this as you make your decision (it might be the cherry on top!!):
Meet Handsome Dan XIX
In dogged pursuit of joy for the members of its community, Yale today announced the arrival of the bulldog puppy who will assume the title of Handsome Dan XIX.
news.yale.edu
After so long going back and forth about an MPH and then with schools and applying and financial aid stress, I've officially committed to Yale today and I could not be more thrilled. Thank you SO much to everyone on this forum for such incredible support - I can't wait to see what we all do next!
And for anyone still between Yale and another school, please consider this as you make your decision (it might be the cherry on top!!):
Meet Handsome Dan XIX
In dogged pursuit of joy for the members of its community, Yale today announced the arrival of the bulldog puppy who will assume the title of Handsome Dan XIX.
Awesome!!!! See you there, hopefully.
Technically yes but see below -
Why is double depositing unethical?
It's deceitful. Students know they can only attend one college, so they are essentially lying when they notify more than one that they intend to enroll.It's unfair to the college. If the practice continues, colleges may find they can't predict the size of the incoming class with any accuracy. They may take actions such as enlarging the waiting list or increasing deposit amounts (both of which will impact future applicants).
It's unfair to other applicants. The double depositor is taking up a spot that could go to another student, who will instead be put on a waiting list or turned down.
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Hi All,
I have officially committed to Johns Hopkins for the Full-Time MPH Program! I am still in disbelief that I have the opportunity to attend my top choice.
It is an opportunity that I thought would never have come to someone like me. I was an applicant with a severely blemished academic history with no redeeming GRE. As such, I was prepared for a challenging application cycle. No words can truly express how thankful I am to schools like JHU for looking beyond my metrics.
The same goes for the SDN community. I am at a loss for words to express how grateful I am for the advice, support, and guidance from this group. This app season was a rollercoaster of emotions, and you all gave me something that I held onto in my most doubtful moments. I hope to one day work alongside you all as colleagues in public health!
If you are going to JHU, planning on heading to med school after PH studies, or really just anyone who wants to stay connected, please feel free to reach out! Wishing everyone the warmest wishes in your future endeavors!
I have officially committed to Johns Hopkins for the Full-Time MPH Program! I am still in disbelief that I have the opportunity to attend my top choice.
It is an opportunity that I thought would never have come to someone like me. I was an applicant with a severely blemished academic history with no redeeming GRE. As such, I was prepared for a challenging application cycle. No words can truly express how thankful I am to schools like JHU for looking beyond my metrics.
The same goes for the SDN community. I am at a loss for words to express how grateful I am for the advice, support, and guidance from this group. This app season was a rollercoaster of emotions, and you all gave me something that I held onto in my most doubtful moments. I hope to one day work alongside you all as colleagues in public health!
If you are going to JHU, planning on heading to med school after PH studies, or really just anyone who wants to stay connected, please feel free to reach out! Wishing everyone the warmest wishes in your future endeavors!
Are there any current or past students of the JHSPH MSPH HBS health education and health communication that can provide some feedback?
How was the program, practicum, faculty, department, job prospects etc
Trying to make a decision and would be very helpful! Thank you
How was the program, practicum, faculty, department, job prospects etc
Trying to make a decision and would be very helpful! Thank you
There really isn't a template. Just ask about the process for additional aid requests.
My requests were answered the same as people who wrote how much they liked the school, the need for more aid, etc.
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Current student at GW here - can confirm the spreadsheet you can download is a good resource. Some things like the living expenses might be exaggerated a bit (I certainly don't spend $2600 a month in living expenses here in DC, and that's including rent, car payment, and food) but you can change those if you want. Transportation will also depend on how far you live from campus as the metro prices increase the further you travel.
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I've never done this (double depositing) mostly because I don't have that sort of money to throw around and I would take the time to analyze the choices and make the best decision and move on so that people don't have to be on a waitlist too long. HOWEVER I don't believe this practice is "unethical" at all. Consider this activity on the part of schools:
1. MPH degrees, especially in certain concentrations, are being awarded at a higher rate despite decreased jobs the past decade, this has been discussed in research articles that it is unfair for schools to do this though masters programs are money makers for schools and each school believes they should be entitled to a lot of students.
2. Schools make you pay a deposit as sometimes life gets in the way, people get in a car accident, they have a sudden death in the family, things happen . . . do schools return these deposits in these cases? It is a legitimate question about waiting to get a scholarship at a different school, paying two times as much at one school versus another school is a big deal financially.
3. Schools false advertise, one school consistently runs ads claiming they are the #5 public health school, but the fine print says among private public health schools, that drops their rank a lot. Also, rankings are biased for schools that get a lot of NIH grants and more important is what skills you get with an MPH and going to a school in the region you want to live in.
4. Some schools treat students very poorly, the faculty couldn't care less about how students are treated and more emphasis is put on bringing in the new group of students than improving and updating the curriculum. Some schools might want there to be a "Public Health School Endangered Species Act" and for accepted applicants to pay a $1,000 fee to be a name on a list and to be put in prison if they don't come to their school, but it is important to respect student's rights to look for the best place where they can thrive not just serving the school's bottom line.
5. There is a reason why there is a deposit at all, it is because schools know that students change their mind, is it even ethical to have a deposit? To being paying part of the tuition at a school that you'll never attend? I understand library fines (paid my fair share!), I understand $20 or even $50 to hold your place, but hundreds and hundreds of dollars?? Schools must be making a lot of money off of collecting these "fees" just like banks that add on fees.
6. Many public health school over charge on the tuition, they're basically taking a mortgage out on your dream to make the world a better place through public health in order to pay for a lot of things not related to your education.
7. Holding two spots for a finite amount of time doesn't erase one of the spots, you can't attend two schools (or at least not easily!). So you aren't unethically destroying seats in a school, just prolonging the process.
8. What is the wording on the deposit? Isn't it just to hold your place as an accepted student? As there is a deposit that implies that people will change their minds, if I needed to give the library my credit card to pay late fines in the process of getting a library card, and if they make me sign something promising I'll return the books on time then it would like the system expects me to fail. If I miss the due date on a book . . . is this "unethical" and breaks the librarian's heart or something?
9. Why don't all schools announce their acceptances on the same day then? Say I get into a school that is good, and I send in a deposit planning to go to that school, but I get into a school I admired more that I never would have thought I would have gotten into . . . how. is it unethical to go to the more admired school?
10. Isn't the system of admissions deposits a sort inequity in that students with resources can pay to hold these positions while they search for other more financially feasible schools and scholarships? Obviously schools felt they had to financially compel students to go to their school or risk being penalized monetarily. School admissions are like used car salesman, they give out scholarships and discounts once they realize they can't get enough students with exorbitant prices, if they were acting more ethically they'd offer everybody a fair deal straight up in the beginning of the process and avoid late decisions, but that is the game.
NEVER have been to a used car dealer and negotiated a price, told him I'd think about it for a week (while looking at other options) and tell them my decision later only to be told that I have to pay $400 to "hold the car" right now and that I forfeit it if I ulitmately choose another car!
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Hey guys! I was wondering if you all knew what MPH programs are still accepting applications? I'm currently in my third year of medical school and am looking to take an educational leave for an MPH degree.
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good luck my friend! no doubt you'll do great things
Hey! So I'm not sure which specific programs are still accepting applications, but if you're able to create a SOPHAS account and go through the Add Programs tab, you'd be able to find quite a lot of programs that have later deadlines or are rolling admissions! 🙂
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So is anyone still waiting on UCLA Epi like I am 😂
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Agree with a lot of what you said. One question: did you attend BUSPH?
Hi guys! As we approach decision day, I wanted to ask: how many of you guys are planning on going to school/moving somewhere you don’t really know anyone? I am leaning towards BU(my sister lives in Boston for now but may end up leaving next year) but otherwise I know no one. I guess that’s one aspect that makes me anxious about the whole thing but I’m sure a lot of people are in the same situation?
I will be driving from California to Conneticut. 2,800 miles from home with the closet family member being now 1,700 miles away. I hope to make friends among the small cohort because if I don't I will go insane from the lack of human companionship.
I am moving to another state where I don’t know anyone. The GroupMe chat I have with the school I’ve chose has reassured me and actually makes me excited to move! There are some students that live in my city that are going to the school I’ve chosen as well.
I am certainly not as knowledgeable as you are but my source for the information I posted is from below -
Application Ethics - Education Professionals | College Board
Personally, I would certainly give some credence to College Board who have people from the Education industry. Besides, when it comes to ethics, I would hold on to my values in life, regardless of what tactics public health schools play, since I have to live with my decisions and not theirs.
Regardless, the $500 (or whatever) deposit is actually used to create Student ID, Email account, access to different systems such as financial systems, student directory, class registration, among other things. If I were to calculate the time it would be take for a admissions office, the registrar, the financial office or bursar, and all others in "onboarding" a new student, I think it it's more than what they are asking for. Even if one thinks that it is just a push of a button, I am paying for the whatever time was put in to make that "button" work.
I used to be on the Board of Directors of an educational institution, so I speak from the little bit of the experience I have.
At the same time, I try to protect my inherent naivety by doing the research I need to with respect to choosing the right program, and not end up with a "lemon".
Having said that, I would hope that we all take education and gaining knowledge to be just a little more important than buying a used car.
The world is a beautiful place my friend, not everyone is a used-car salesman. And there is nothing wrong in being one; there are many I know who are just trying to make ends meet through honest and ethical work.
Forgive me if I have said anything wrong.
Z.
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it's either moving to Atlanta or moving to Baltimore for me! Never lived outside Virginia, so this is going to be a whole new experience.
Atlanta is a completely new place that I've never been to. No family or friends at all. 10 hour drive from home. Gotta stay there the full 2 years. I already feel a strong sense of community with everyone on the Emory fb and GroupMe, I shouldn't have trouble making friends. Everyone is generally around the same age (finishing undergrad or just a few years out of undergrad). The more I learn about Atlanta, the more I love it!
Baltimore I am somewhat more familiar with since I've been there quite a few times, but I still don't know anyone there. It's only 1.5 hours away from home. Def won't have to stay the whole time, as I would just live there to knock out the in-person classes I need to take. The FB/GroupMe intimidates me as everyone is super highly accomplished. Many are already doctors, leaders of health ministries in other countries, and just generally far more well established career wise. They tend to be older too. 2 years of full-time work experience is required for the JHU MPH, and I'm just barely past 1.5, so I'm def on the younger/less experienced end. Imposter syndrome is at an all-time high. I'm just hoping I don't get too intimidated to talk to people and network, otherwise what's the point of going to the #1 school? 🤣
I really see grad school/moving to a new city as my chance to finally stop being an introvert and make lasting friendships/connections. The pandemic has taken a serious toll on my already barely existent social skills and I'm really hoping to change that!!
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In addition to accepting my offer to Yale, I've declined my offers to all my other programs (Columbia SMS and Columbia SIPA MPA, Hopkins Health Policy, Emory BSHES, NYU (MPH and MPA), WashU MPH/MSP, BU CAPDIE) - hoping the spot and (the scholarship money) goes to you deserving folks!
Edit: Withdrawing my application from Brown as by all estimates, the dual degree program starts in June and I don't believe I'll be able to pivot fast enough to accommodate it.
Edit: Withdrawing my application from Brown as by all estimates, the dual degree program starts in June and I don't believe I'll be able to pivot fast enough to accommodate it.
Congrats on your acceptances-Those are all really good points! I see it the same way, after the peak of the pandemic and being isolated for so long, I’m really hoping we can start to feel a bit normal again even if it means starting fresh with a new group of people. It’ll train us to be social again, lmao.
the age range was something I was thinking about too. I guess I am technically on the older side (I am 3 years out of undergrad) which makes me a little nervous especially with finding roommates, but at the same time I feel like it’s not a huge deal lol. My sister is younger than me(22-going into 5th year of undergrad at NEU since they do the co-op) so it’s funny that she and a lot of her friends are the same age of many of the incoming grad students, and I’d probably spend a good deal of time with them once I’m up in Boston. I vibe really well with her friends though so I feel like you kind of have to put the age aside, we’re somewhat all adults here haha. But even so, there can be a lot that happens between your early and mid twenties so sometimes the age difference can really be hard on forming friendships. Depends on the person I guess!
Anyway, I feel like I overthink things like this. Plus I sort of see it as similar to undergrad where most people are coming in alone!
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I believe Boston is accepting applications through June.
yup haha
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For all your Emory applicants, what were your motivations for applying to their MPH programs?
SanDiego Resident + low tuition (no need for loan) + not a top school but definitely not a bad one + decreases overall loan burden for Residency programs I may apply for in near future = low stress and more flexibility in life. 😃
Caution: My perspective but may vary for others
All d best
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Good ranking, one of few schools that had a Global Epi program, additional certificates I'm interested in, ability to gain public health work experience as a student through REAL, well-known reputation in the public health world, lower COL city than other schools, high job placement rates, great public health city (CDC is right there! plus lots of other great orgs!), wonderful professors from what I've heard, lovely campus, and alumni/students seem to have only good things to say about the program. I'll admit though, I wasn't heavily considering it until I got the merit scholarship. Would've been too expensive for me otherwise. Overall a great school with really unique opportunities.
Me! I have been waiting for so long that I am now debating in my head whether it's worth the wait. Schools that gave me acceptances much earlier suddenly have a soft corner in my heart 😛
YES! I'm like 90% committed to UCI, unless UCLA pulls a 180 and decides to finally let me in LOL. But like, spring break??? do admissions people even work during spring break??
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Do state schools typically only offer aid once you've matriculated? UTHealth sent me an email saying that I would only be informed of aid after matriculation AND about 2 weeks to a month prior to the start of the term.
Do you happen to have her email? I emailed her via general admissions email last week but haven't received a response yet :/
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Nope. It's possible I deferred before they offered one, but I didn't think it was too likely since I don't think a lot of people do from UNC.
I didn't want to put her email on the forum, so PMed you.
Here's the RA section of the email I received from Brown:
"Each year, we have a few Masters Research Assistantships (RA). These come with a monthly stipend and the student works either 10 (partial RA) or 20 (standard RA) hours per week. Unfortunately, most of these opportunities come up after the students are here. We usually have 10-15 students working in RAs, but the number can vary from year to year, so I can't predict how many we will have next year. When a faculty sponsor lets us know they have funding to hire an MPH student in an RA, we usually send the position out to the students and the students apply for it if they are interested. The sponsor decides which student is the best match for the position."
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I don't think that's a typical state school thing to do. TBH that would really bother me! What if the only way someone can afford to go to a school is if they get aid?
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Good morning,
Does UMD MPH-Global health interview candidates or just make decisions?
Does UMD MPH-Global health interview candidates or just make decisions?
