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WildZoo said:
Ehhh nevermind maybe not interesting. I mean, it makes some "could this really be a coincidence??" tickles in my brain but. It could be.
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Animal Midwife said:
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It's just that alissa happened to arrive back on thread near the end of day 1 and the first thing she saw (at 9:40pm) despite being pages behind was Cray's reveal (which had happened at 9:18pm).

But with the timing of when she arrived, it is possible that she got back and decided to read the most recent page, which was still the page Cray's reveal was on at that point. If it had been a prior page it would be more suspicious timing.
 
Day 1
Mon 12am - Santy (1) - AM
Mon 11:36am - Cray (1) - Santy
Mon 12:08pm - Santy (0) - AM, Trilt (1) - AM
Mon 12:55pm - Zenge (1) - Alissa
Mon 5:59pm - Zenge (0) - Alissa
Mon 6:56pm - Dubz (1) - MJ (thought it was a mayor vote)
Mon 6:59pm - Dubz (0) - MJ
Mon 7:21pm - Cray (2) - Santy, Dubz
Mon 7:27pm - Santy (1) - AM, PSV
Mon 9:28pm - Santy (0) - AM, PSV
Mon 10:23pm - alissa (1) - PSV
Tues 1:13pm - Trilt (1) - AM; Stoat (1) - AM
Tues 4:28pm - Alissa (0) - PSV
Tues 6:49pm - MJ (1) - Zenge
Tues 6:53pm - Cray (3) - Santy, Dubz, stoat
Tues 8:22pm - Cray (4) - Santy, Dubz, stoat, alissa <-- will follow up with ISO of alissa comments on Cray prior to this vote
Tues 8:23pm - Cray (5) - Santy, Dubz, stoat, alissa, MJ
Tues 8:32pm - MJ (2) - Zenge, Trilt
Tues 8:58pm - MJ (3) - Zenge, Trilt, PSV
Tues 9:18pm: Cray reveals as Twilight Sparkle, seer
Tues 9:21pm - Cray (4) - Santy, Dubz, stoat, alissa, MJ
Tues 9:34pm - MJ (4) - Zenge, Trilt, PSV, Santy
*cough* Skill Issue *cough*
Tues 9:36pm - MJ (5) - Zenge, Trilt, PSV, Santy, Cray
Tues 9:41pm - Cray (3) - Santy, Dubz, stoat, alissa, MJ
Tues 9:55pm - MJ (6) - Zenge, Trilt, PSV, Santy, Cray, alissa


Final
Crayola227 (3) - WildZoo, bluestoat, MadJack
Trilt (0) -
Zenge (0) -
alissa (0) -
bluestoat (1) - AM
MadJack (6) - Zenge, Trilt, PSV, Santygrass, Crayola, alissa
 
WildZoo said:
Day 1
Mon 12am - Santy (1) - AM
Mon 11:36am - Cray (1) - Santy
Mon 12:08pm - Santy (0) - AM, Trilt (1) - AM
Mon 12:55pm - Zenge (1) - Alissa
Mon 5:59pm - Zenge (0) - Alissa
Mon 6:56pm - Dubz (1) - MJ (thought it was a mayor vote)
Mon 6:59pm - Dubz (0) - MJ
Mon 7:21pm - Cray (2) - Santy, Dubz
Mon 7:27pm - Santy (1) - AM, PSV
Mon 9:28pm - Santy (0) - AM, PSV
Mon 10:23pm - alissa (1) - PSV
Tues 1:13pm - Trilt (1) - AM; Stoat (1) - AM
Tues 4:28pm - Alissa (0) - PSV
Tues 6:49pm - MJ (1) - Zenge
Tues 6:53pm - Cray (3) - Santy, Dubz, stoat
Tues 8:22pm - Cray (4) - Santy, Dubz, stoat, alissa <-- will follow up with ISO of alissa comments on Cray prior to this vote
Tues 8:23pm - Cray (5) - Santy, Dubz, stoat, alissa, MJ
Tues 8:32pm - MJ (2) - Zenge, Trilt
Tues 8:58pm - MJ (3) - Zenge, Trilt, PSV
Tues 9:18pm: Cray reveals as Twilight Sparkle, seer
Tues 9:21pm - Cray (4) - Santy, Dubz, stoat, alissa, MJ
Tues 9:34pm - MJ (4) - Zenge, Trilt, PSV, Santy
*cough* Skill Issue *cough*
Tues 9:36pm - MJ (5) - Zenge, Trilt, PSV, Santy, Cray
Tues 9:41pm - Cray (3) - Santy, Dubz, stoat, alissa, MJ
Tues 9:55pm - MJ (6) - Zenge, Trilt, PSV, Santy, Cray, alissa
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Oh you got fancy with the hyperlinks!
 
SportPonies said:
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I help
Day 1 Final Tally
Writeup
Night 1
Day 2 Final Tally
Writeup
Night 2
 
WildZoo said:
Day 1
Mon 12am - Santy (1) - AM
Mon 11:36am - Cray (1) - Santy
Mon 12:08pm - Santy (0) - AM, Trilt (1) - AM
Mon 12:55pm - Zenge (1) - Alissa
Mon 5:59pm - Zenge (0) - Alissa
Mon 6:56pm - Dubz (1) - MJ (thought it was a mayor vote)
Mon 6:59pm - Dubz (0) - MJ
Mon 7:21pm - Cray (2) - Santy, Dubz
Mon 7:27pm - Santy (1) - AM, PSV
Mon 9:28pm - Santy (0) - AM, PSV
Mon 10:23pm - alissa (1) - PSV
Tues 1:13pm - Trilt (1) - AM; Stoat (1) - AM
Tues 4:28pm - Alissa (0) - PSV
Tues 6:49pm - MJ (1) - Zenge
Tues 6:53pm - Cray (3) - Santy, Dubz, stoat
Tues 8:22pm - Cray (4) - Santy, Dubz, stoat, alissa <-- will follow up with ISO of alissa comments on Cray prior to this vote
Tues 8:23pm - Cray (5) - Santy, Dubz, stoat, alissa, MJ
Tues 8:32pm - MJ (2) - Zenge, Trilt
Tues 8:58pm - MJ (3) - Zenge, Trilt, PSV
Tues 9:18pm: Cray reveals as Twilight Sparkle, seer
Tues 9:21pm - Cray (4) - Santy, Dubz, stoat, alissa, MJ
Tues 9:34pm - MJ (4) - Zenge, Trilt, PSV, Santy
*cough* Skill Issue *cough*
Tues 9:36pm - MJ (5) - Zenge, Trilt, PSV, Santy, Cray
Tues 9:41pm - Cray (3) - Santy, Dubz, stoat, alissa, MJ
Tues 9:55pm - MJ (6) - Zenge, Trilt, PSV, Santy, Cray, alissa


Final
Crayola227 (3) - WildZoo, bluestoat, MadJack
Trilt (0) -
Zenge (0) -
alissa (0) -
bluestoat (1) - AM
MadJack (6) - Zenge, Trilt, PSV, Santygrass, Crayola, alissa
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Oh, if I had seen this, I wouldn’t have asked whether you’re being productive
 
WildZoo said:
will follow up with ISO of alissa comments on Cray prior to this vote
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As promised, included some of her other content posts too for more context

alissa14 said:
I will say I normally agree with a lot of crayola's thoughts and reasoning but this first post seemed weird. Hoping she comes back at some point bc I want to know if she still feels the same
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alissa14 said:
I mean it has been a minute and I generally like her reasoning in other games.

I gave Cray a few sus points for her opening post. But I don't want to pile on that vote yet until she comes back
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alissa14 said:
lol wut reasoning? All i said was your opening post is weird and gave you a few sus points for it. Never explained the "why." That "why" being throwing light shade on zenge and dubz simply for lack of emojis in their opening post is oddly specific and seems stretchy
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alissa14 said:
Maybe I don’t play or know cray well enough then because I don’t recall this being a trend for her and at first read it struck me as odd and out of character
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alissa14 said:
See below

On re-read this line seems off to me. Almost like asking where she should direct sus towards.

Out of all of Cray’s posts, this one above has the most substance. Even so, nothing about this is inherently pingy

Yet it seems that Cray has moved more into a wolf lean. And this is after santy and I put light sus there. Seems a bit sheepy

What caused this shift?
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^the above is directed at PSV, just mentions Cray. She seems to be reading PSV more wolfy than Cray here.

alissa14 said:
My reads are looking something like…

Dubz
AM
Santy
Zenge
Cray
PSV

Not enough data: MJ, trilt, stoat
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alissa14 said:
I can follow this logic on PSV and I did an ISO when she did this in a previous game that was small and she was village. I’ve never played with wolf!PSV to know if this is NAI for her or not. I did note a possible slight tonal difference but that may be me trying to search for something that isn’t there. I do have some questions for her in a previous post that I would like to see answered
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alissa14 said:
@Trilt this ISO I did examines the slight tonal difference I perceived in the thread pushing by PSV.
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alissa14 said:
Where did I say I was fully village reading Dubz? I gave her a lean for that one post. Sure she was at the top of my list but I already clarified this was initial and nothing was concrete. But then Trilt’s analysis of Dubz also makes me uneasy.
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alissa14 said:
My reads and leans are now looking more like:
santy
AM
Trilt
Zenge
Dubz
stoat
Cray
PSV

???: MJ
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alissa14 said:
I am studying for my final and may not be back before vote close.

yeet cray
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Trilt said:
Alissa's swap honestly does make me move her more village, not less - no need for it, and Cray had just revealed a PR and mane character in the last half hour, the chances of people jumping back on that yeet (so making it scary to not waffle) was meh
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The pushback on that from my perspective is that AM was sitting off wagon and questioning Cray's reveal. She could have decided to move to Cray, others could have followed suit.

Now, why the other wolf decided to push Cray initially and then try to save her so late in the cycle is a bit beyond my comprehension, but from my perspective someone did decide to make that move (either alissa or Santy), unless the other wolf is...you.
 
My POV from the game is pretty much the same fwiw. I feel really confident in AM/Wz being Villa. Good about Tril V too.
Then between PSV and alissa, the later makes much more sense as their Wolf partner
 
And Zenge death being a good look for Psv/Trilt too. So it all kinda points at alissa
 
Tho if Alissa its not it then I feel we are probably going to lose, so thats worrying. But dont have the combativeness or want to light up the paranoia rn tbfh
 
Animal Midwife said:
I suppose. It's still confusing to me, and I feel far from clearing her, but Trilt is still bad too. She could easily bus Cray.
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Animal Midwife said:
Not really, no. It's why Trilt is getting no credit for voting Cray yesterday.
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So do I bus or not? Because you're not giving me credit for my vote on Cray, but you're ALSO not giving me credit for repeatedly pointing out the idiosyncrasy of her role claim with village revealed ones.

alissa14 said:
maybe sharing reasoning why might give me a clearer picture
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Quote saved from earlier asking about the image I sent to Santy, ignore this.

alissa14 said:
I am especially peeved that he is voting me right now without addressing any of my more recent posts and analysis and explaining why he has now come to the conclusion that I am a wolf when he was previously Village reading me
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This is exactly the situation I found myself in day two, where he justified his vote for me because Stoat had mentioned sus, ignoring her bulldog approach to Cray and literal pre-emptive vote overnight. In addition to several other players she mentioned.

I point out again, too, that he never went back and gave the reasoning he said he had for my vote despite me asking more than once, and tried to say I hadn't contributed despite saying he liked my intro posts previously.

Zenge also voted for him at close last night and brought up he found him more wolfy than cray, and we have evidence of a semi-revenge kill previously with Cray/stoat.

If Alissa is a wolf, she's been a very convincing one to me, both in response to thread and one who manages to echo my thoughts - something I dropped Zenge in my suspicions for previously that I get a similar vibe from here.

I don't know. I'm truly just not feeling wolf!Alissa, though I'll admit it's very much just feeling not true evidence.
 
If you read me D2 Im sure you have the explanations there bruh
 
Like, you are COMPLETELY ignoring the argument I made about the timing of your vote on Cray looking partnered, while also I was giving reasons for everyone else to be unpartnered with them.
And if Cray was V, I didnt really see a world in where you could be V. I didnt have reasons to Villa read you. I didnt like your post at SoD and some from before were kinda iffy to me.


As a fact , I think alissa is prob the switch who is more 'abrupt', cuz I was in fact Vreading them, but I think that if you follow through my post why my pov changed is really there and there is no need for me to 'explain' it
 
It feels a lot like you are confbiased in your 'santy sketch' read cuz you cant understand some of the things I do and its like a loop cause you confbiasing makes it that you dont give a fair evaluation to my posts / pov
 
Santygrass said:
Like, you are COMPLETELY ignoring the argument I made about the timing of your vote on Cray looking partnered, while also I was giving reasons for everyone else to be unpartnered with them.
And if Cray was V, I didnt really see a world in where you could be V. I didnt have reasons to Villa read you. I didnt like your post at SoD and some from before were kinda iffy to me.


As a fact , I think alissa is prob the switch who is more 'abrupt', cuz I was in fact Vreading them, but I think that if you follow through my post why my pov changed is really there and there is no need for me to 'explain' it
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YOU literally ended up following me and swapped the vote to MJ and tagged her to change and you're saying *I'm* the sketchy one in that yeet??
 
My main problem and the reason I unvoted Cray since EoD was that I had issues finding them a viable partner. You fitted the bill in that+I was wary of your slot regardless. At tha moment going for you was the more positive move for me. Sorry not sorry
 
Trilt said:
YOU literally ended up following me and swapped the vote to MJ and tagged her to change and you're saying *I'm* the sketchy one in that yeet??
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Did I say that my vote was the purest? Lmao. I know I skill Issued it. But I know I'm town wtf Trilt .

You complain about my analysis dont making sense but then when I repeat things that your not taking into account that I had previously Said you reply with shade?

Like, I am supposed to ignore the whole vote analysis from D1 cuz my vote was also bad? Cmon
 
If you are not interested in solving me dont ask questions
 
Santygrass said:
Did I say that my vote was the purest? Lmao. I know I skill Issued it. But I know I'm town wtf Trilt .

You complain about my analysis dont making sense but then when I repeat things that your not taking into account that I had previously Said you reply with shade?

Like, I am supposed to ignore the whole vote analysis from D1 cuz my vote was also bad? Cmon
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And I know I'm town and also skill issue'd so we're simply at an impasse.

And yes? Of course I think it's absurd for you to dunk me for something you literally also did. Obviously if you're town it *made sense to you* so why is it not permissible for me??
 
ALSO, and I apologize if this is just me not getting it, there's a lot of posts - are you claiming my actions in D1 vote were a reason that you put your yeet on me D2?
 
Trilt said:
So do I bus or not? Because you're not giving me credit for my vote on Cray, but you're ALSO not giving me credit for repeatedly pointing out the idiosyncrasy of her role claim with village revealed ones.
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You started pointing that stuff out on D2. That's within reasonable bussing range if you believe Cray is a forgone conclusion for some reason. I'm not awarding any credit for pushing Cray D2 to anyone who wasn't on the final D1 tally, isn't the most extreme powerwolf of them all, or wasn't deeply shading Cray, specifically, D1.
 
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Trilt said:
ALSO, and I apologize if this is just me not getting it, there's a lot of posts - are you claiming my actions in D1 vote were a reason that you put your yeet on me D2?
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What I did was an analysis of both worlds in where Cray was wolf and Cray was villa.
You were Wolf to me in both of them .
Your vote+not having nothing unoartnery with Cray was a reason to believe you were Cray Likeliest partner.
In a V!Cray world , my PoE narrowed and the fact that I wasnt vreading you at all, and like the fact that your content hadnt really hit me (As in yeh Trilt did THIS.), Were factors that made me believe that in a V!Cray world, you were likely a hit.


Also the fact that I havent much of an impression of you in itself was vote worthy imo.

Also your D2 SoD was funny cuz I remember you kinda shading me and Cray (fitting for a V!Cray world) but not voting for Cray (Fitting for a W!Cray world). So that was funny . I think I didnt mention this to see where would your vote go later
 
Animal Midwife said:
You started pointing that stuff out on D2. That's within reasonable bussing range if you believe Cray is a forgone conclusion for some reason. I'm not awarding any credit for pushing Cray D2 to anyone who wasn't on the final D1 tally, isn't the most extreme powerwolf of them all, or wasn't deeply shading Cray, specifically, D1.
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Let's talk about this.

Before yeet was even revealed, I said this:
Trilt said:
It's not like Twilight doesn't occasionally have her... moments:

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Which, granted, jokey, but Twilight does have some pretty questionable moments of OCD perfectionist that end up with her spoopy.


Fighting a bit with WZ because I felt like she was a lot more explicit about her concerns with the role *after* yeet had closed. It seemed like a misunderstanding at the end:
Trilt said:
It's the mane character claiming a mane ability. I don't feel it's unreasonable to give her a respite, but I also think she needs to get caught up so we can get approximately 110% less excuses next cycle.
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WildZoo said:
Still felt like a wolf seer claim to me :laugh: if we take the role bit out of the equation
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Trilt said:
MLP is initially a show about Twilight Sparkle being sent to Ponyville to learn about friendship.

She meets the other mane characters (collectively "the mane six") there and it becomes a bit more about all characters as the seasons progress, but she is still the major protagonist of the show.
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Trilt said:
Why is this theorizing only coming out post-yeet close?
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Trilt said:
Saying something ambiguous about wolf perspective is hardly the same, imo.

With the context of my role and that flipped one, I agree a mane six claim is further kind of questionable. Spitfire is reaching a bit into side characters and this is... not a big game.
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Trilt said:
You really don't see a significant level of difference between:

and
?
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WildZoo said:
Nope. Maybe because I know that in my head when I said her interpretation seemed like a wolfy perspective that was what I meant (which is why I said it *still* felt like a wolf seer claim later), but I don't really know how else you could take that statement. What did you think I was saying?
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Trilt said:
I wasn't tracking, which is why I went ughhh when you were a lot more specific a couple posts later haha.
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Then fought with you about it:
Animal Midwife said:
Did you see any of my posts where I though it was a weird claim too? Also, why would dubz continue to sit on seer!Cray in a world where she's doing anything but wolfread her?
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Trilt said:
You mean this single post?
Because otherwise you asked questions of the role... like you do for literally everything. Hardly a strong statement.

And the counterwagon for Cray was someone who Dubz repeatedly said she won't vote for d1 like that, and there was minimal time to move things. Don't act like this was a well discussed thing with many options and significant time. :eyebrow:
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Oh, well, at least for me, I generally don't keep expressing distaste with a claim unless something doesn't feel right to me. I probably should have moved to Cray based on those feelings.
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Pointed out I didn't like the claim based on mine and MJ's shortly after yeet close:
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I don't disagree with this at all, though. I think another role flip overnight will continue to help us pare down whether that was a reasonable claim or just the informed minority being able to gamble successfully
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Then the next morning, BEFORE A SINGLE PERSON HAD VOTED CRAY or brought this up:
Trilt said:
The role claim idea (Twilight Sparkle as affiliation seer) makes sense if this is a really standard approach to the theme. She's the major character, it's a big PR, it fits.

But it's a ten player game. We've had two characters flip so far, and they're both quite far down the "standard" list of roles I'd expect in the game. And, the "lesser" role - the smaller character, Spitfire, who is really fairly background in the series - actually had an ability, while the more major character - Trixie, again, a season finale villian and eventual major good guy - was a vanillager. This doesn't jive with an assumption (major character = major PR) that seemed reasonable with the claim last night.

Follow? Incoherent? I'm trying here, lol.
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It's not like I just threw sus after everything was a done deal with Cray - I brought context in, noted my role and the yeeted one vs hers, discussed it with y'all, etc. The fact that I didn't vote for her doesn't mean she wasn't suspicious to me and I didn't verbalize that multiple times.
 
Santygrass said:
What I did was an analysis of both worlds in where Cray was wolf and Cray was villa.
You were Wolf to me in both of them .
Your vote+not having nothing unoartnery with Cray was a reason to believe you were Cray Likeliest partner.
In a V!Cray world , my PoE narrowed and the fact that I wasnt vreading you at all, and like the fact that your content hadnt really hit me (As in yeh Trilt did THIS.), Were factors that made me believe that in a V!Cray world, you were likely a hit.


Also the fact that I havent much of an impression of you in itself was vote worthy imo.

Also your D2 SoD was funny cuz I remember you kinda shading me and Cray (fitting for a V!Cray world) but not voting for Cray (Fitting for a W!Cray world). So that was funny . I think I didnt mention this to see where would your vote go later
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So you are saying you did this analysis, and then voted for me following it because I made wolf sense in both situations?
 
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