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Discussion in 'Military Medicine' started by goldy120, Apr 9, 2018.

  1. goldy120

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    Hello!
    \Am in my 2nd year as a premed student, and have put some serious thought into enlisting in to the military soon to be a combat medic! But i was also wondering if this will boost my application for medical school or have it frowned upon?
    anyone done it and want to share their experience?
    any type of information will help really lmsuper never and curios about anything that has to do with with the whole topic!!
    already have my EMT certificate if that counts for anything lol
     
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  3. DrMetal

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    I thought you meant a new brand of whiskey (National Guard '68) , has a nice ring to it
     
  4. pgg

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    I thought maybe whiskey was the explanation for the post.

    @goldy120, the short answer is that enlisting as an undergrad will halt your progress toward the degree and prerequisites for medical school. Getting into medical school isn't complicated. Get yourself a high gpa and MCAT. The rest doesn't matter much. Extracurricular stuff and flavor to the application won't make up for a low gpa or MCAT.

    No, the EMT certificate doesn't count for anything.
     
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    I would definitely buy a bottle of NG '68.
     
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    Go work as an EMT preferably responding to 911 calls.
     
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    It'll make you look a touch more interesting to med school admission committees but there is no wow factor.
     
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    I thought of a positive -

    Good judgment is learned from bad decisions, so I guess there's a lot of good judgment to be acquired from a decision to enlist to pad a med school app. :)
     
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    .... you honestly think that the only reason I would sign my life away for 6 years would be to boost my application? That question came from curiosity; I didn't want to jump into something that would hinder my chances. Why even comment without knowing what you're talking about?
     
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    You came into a forum of people more educated than you in both medicine and the military....consider adjusting your tone because albeit sarcastically they are trying to save you from what is logistically a boneheaded move

    If you want to be a doc you don’t screw with your grades and schedule, this screws with that

    68w isn’t an extracurricular, it’s a job that can kill or maim you
     
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    Idc if I came into a forum with more educated people than me that's not an excuse for someone to accuse me on something so reckless without knowing my whole perspective on that matter. Post like that aren't "saving me" from anything; I learned nothing from reading what pgg said.
     
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    I’m proposing that if you take a deep breath there is plenty to learn here
     
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    You should enlist.
     
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    A deep breath is not needed. I already know that enlisting to boost my app is not the smartest move. Nothing to learn from him/hers post. Your post however had me putting some thought into not ruining my schedule; those were the kind of comments I was looking for.
     
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    Totally.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Lighten up, Francis.
     
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    i will now just cause you said so. thx based god
     
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    I didn't do army I was a Navy Corpsman, however this was prior to starting undergrad. Can it help medical knowledge wise? Sure, on an elementary level that wont be useful to you through med school. It will help with leadership and your application but at your stage you are only slowing the momentum. Just keep going to school. Take an EMT class over the summer if you HAVE to do something. Be patient.

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    Admittedly I just read the rest of thread. You may have other reasons for the military and that's fine but I highly recommend developing a thicker skin if you do. When you ask for criticism it'll have a lot less cushion than this forum. Keep at it my man. There's always HPSP or FAP.

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    Haha good one
     
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    Gender isn't relevant. Through the internet your sensitivity stretches far as is apparent in the thread. The point was to relax. You want to join the military? Prepare yourself but not getting riled up over criticism that you asked for. The guy you said knows nothing also happens to be in the military. Don't like his comments? I'm not sure you're going to like much of your interactions in the military either.

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    You should definitely enlist.
     
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    Holy tap dancing Christ on a cracker you're obnoxious.

    Given your reception in this other thread, maybe you should consider for a moment the possibility that maybe, just maybe, the common factor in all of these unsatisfying responses to your questions is YOU.


    Your lack of insight and self awareness here is extraordinary.

    Your overall odds are poor. Your gpa is marginal, you're resistant to good advice given freely and honestly, and there's no way your sunny personality is going to make it through a day of admission interviews without irritating someone with veto power.

    The good news is that you've got another year to grow up.
     
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    Honestly my military experience hasn’t helped me much this application cycle. If you really want to serve (and everyone’s reasons for service are different) then I’d recommend you enlist as a navy corpsman in the naval reserves. but you do need to learn to take criticism better dude. Maybe the military will help you grow up as it does so many others
     
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    From someone who almost walked into 68W straight out of high school I will tell you what will happen.

    You got active duty and take 68W. You're going to go to BCT, then about a year of AIT for your training. The EMT certification might help fast track you in the 68W training (though I doubt it because the military is pretty rigid and they want everyone doing the same training regardless of what you know or think you know). Then with the way the world is going your going to the sandbox for a tour or 2 or 3 and your civilian pre-med education is taking a backseat. If you survive and don't get out on a med board for injuries then you could go back to using your GI bill for finishing your undergraduate education, but most likely you'll have some injuries from 68W (it is a brutal MOS) that will prevent you from ever rejoining the reserves or active duty as a medical student or physician if that is the route you want to go. Medical schools aren't going to care that you were a 68W. As many in here didn't even pick up on most people don't even know what a 68 whiskey is (outside the enlisted folks) or what a combat medic actually does in the military.

    Now I'm not trying to be a debbie downer. Now for some positive spin. If you wanted to go mid-level say PA program then a 68W background and EMT cert would do wonders for your admission to a PA school, but if you are wanting to go full on physician then I would suggest as others did and just finish undergrad and focus on keeping your GPA high and doing well on the MCAT and then if you want to serve you can do the other options people have discussed above and get the military to pay for your medical school.

    As others have said though if you took such offense to the ribbing you got above then some E-4 mafia or first SGT is gonna make you hate your life for the 4 years you are in the military as enlisted.
     
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    *clap clap clap*
     
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    Hit my a lot of my curiosity on the nail, thanks for you're response!!!
     
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    It definitely won't hurt. You should look into joining your college's ROTC program this would definitely give you more "points" when applying to med schools. Also look into the Army's SMP program. Being in your 2nd year of pre-med you should have the credits required to directly sign a contract in the reserve officer training corps.

    I am currently doing Army National Guard as a 09R - Cadet, pre-med 2nd year, with intention to join the Army Medical Service Corps after completion of med school. I have also done prior-service as an Army enlisted soldier. Let me know if you have any questions!
     
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    NO! Just NO!

    OP - Don't do ROTC if your intent is Medicine unless you are prepared to complete your commitment as a line officer first.

    Para_Doc_S - ROTC will hurt more than it will help for a premed undergraduate and for the longer commitment. Please read more in this forum before making a recommendation of this type.
     
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    No to rotc
     
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    Para_Doc_S - Let me temper my previous response...

    ROTC is OK if you fully understand the commitment, obstacles, and detours. In your case, if you served on AD for three years or more, you understand the life and some of the pitfalls. If you have only been to Basic and AIT then you may not have felt the full brunt of the Green Weenie. You have to look forward to ROTC interference and hoops to jump through to even be allowed to apply to Med School.
     
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    Thank you very tempering your response. True, OP does not have a military history so he cannot truly understand the commitment and obstacles he will incur going this route. But, I am merely making a suggestion and providing him with another option if wants to look into it.

    Understanding your choices, good and bad, is important.
     
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    But it’s a terrible suggestion
     
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    Totally apart from the question of whether or not ROTC, as a program intended to produce line officers, will even permit matriculation into medical school without delay -

    Another problem is that the time invested in ROTC will be time that can't be spent on academics. This will likely cost actual non-subjective points from the applicant's gpa and MCAT.

    Really can't emphasize enough how admissions are an impersonal numbers driven game, dominated by gpa and MCAT. Everything, everything else is a distant second.
     
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    I wanted to be a physician, so I went to medical school. That’s the path that made the most sense to me.
    If you want to be a combat medic, go to combat medic school.


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    This will hurt you more than boost you for med school. What others mention are true. If you want details of the steps PM me. If not, take everyone’s word and stay away from the idea. Focus on GPA and the hierarchy passion of med school and not the “this-sounds-like-a-fun-experience” national guard.
     

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