New Jersey Schools Part II

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Hey, I'm applying to NJ schools this year. I just submitted my primary and still in line to be reviewed. MCAT some what average (<30) and GPA, around 3.5. Waiting for the AAMC to calculate my GPA. What about you guys ?.
 
So as you can guess, my answers were pretty average, nothing I was too thrilled about. Feeling kind of disconcerted really at this point. My interviewer complemented me on my application, and also said at the end that the interview "went well." So thats good.

If an interviewer told me that my interview "went well," I would be really excited. You might think you didn't fully answer the questions, but the interviewer must have liked your answers.
 
Hey people,

I just want to encourage all of you to do a mock-interview before your actual interview. I recently did mine, and realized that I really had trouble with giving my answers. I thought interviews would be my strong point, because I love talking to others about anything and everything. But as far as the interview goes, I had trouble answering the most basic questions.

I had trouble because I knew exactly what I wanted to say, but my answers came out choppy. Luckily it was a fake interview, so it didn't matter. Basically, I was trying to answer the questions on the spot. Instead, my interviewer suggested that I come up with answers beforehand (by writing them out on paper). That way, there can be atleast some outline for you to answer questions. Obviously, you don't want to memorize the answers word-for-word, but atleast try to make your answers flow.

Moral of the story: Do a mock interview, and come up with answers beforehand. 🙂
 
I had my interview at njmed about 2 weeks ago. It was extremely low stress with a doc from nephrology. He didnt ask any real philosophical questions or 'why do you want to become a doctor' type questions, the q's he asked were all just conversational. For example, he asked about Bio-Z testing and its practical uses for dialysis patients, and we schmoozed for a bit about that (I had worked at a cardio's office as a med assistant and operating Bioz-tests were part of my app).

Towards the end he asked if i had any more questions (I had been asking quite a few questions about the school), and I said "No, but I feel this is winding down and I'd be happy to answer any other questions you might have about me". And he smiled and said, thanks for reminding me, this is my first interview of the year- i'm a little out of practice. They always want me to ask this question; 'If you were dictator of the country, what would you change about the healthcare system;". I gave him the thoughtful answer that I had prepared earlier (every premed should expect this cookie-cutter interview question) and we discussed for a while and that was that.

All-in-all, a fine experience.

Oh- some more things;
My interviewer actually said to me that an especially attractive feature of my app was the upward trend in my GPA. He really appreciates serious improvement, yadayada. Either way, he asked me to explain my first semesters grades, and i did (tried to make as few excuses as possible).

He was very proud of the school and its match rates and calibur of the students . He made some good points about its price for value, and one thing I actually noticed was how nice the students were to eachother and how friendly the professors were (we ran into a couple on our tour).
 
Thanks fo sharing guys. Anybody going in tomorrow for interviews at NJMS?
 
Just got RWJ invite yesterday. 😍

NJMS interview is today. :scared:
 
I had my interview a couple of days ago. I thought it was pretty good. Very conversational, about 1 hr, we talked about why medicine, what did you see in your volunteer experience, how are you going to balance med school and life outside of school, what are your values, how are you going to keep your religious belief outside of your practice. However, I was a little disappointed at how they managed the day. No structure in the day, no lunch or breakfast, adm. office and interview room looked in bad need of new paint and upgrades in general, tour was only 20 min., no speeches or meetings with admission director/dean, it just didn't look like they were trying.
And I am a food person, I need food to be motivated🙂
 
Just got RWJ invite yesterday. 😍

NJMS interview is today. :scared:

congratulations and good luck!!! let us know how it goes today 🙂


plauto, thanks for updating us on how your interview went. i'm surprised that they didn't have any lunch and the tour was so short. were students giving the tour, or someone else? when i went to the njms open house a couple of years ago, there were students giving the tour, adn they were very enthusiastic about the school. it seemed like they were very happy there. anyway, good to know that your interview went well overall. did they tell you how long it will take for you to hear a decision?
 
congratulations and good luck!!! let us know how it goes today 🙂


plauto, thanks for updating us on how your interview went. i'm surprised that they didn't have any lunch and the tour was so short. were students giving the tour, or someone else? when i went to the njms open house a couple of years ago, there were students giving the tour, adn they were very enthusiastic about the school. it seemed like they were very happy there. anyway, good to know that your interview went well overall. did they tell you how long it will take for you to hear a decision?

The interviewer was an ob/gyn and was realtively enthusiastic. Students gave the tour. I went to an open house 2 yrs ago and it was a much better experience. They said about 4 to 6 weeks after October 15 we should hear something. NJMS used to be among my first 3 choices, now it's way down the list if I get to choose.
 
The interviewer was an ob/gyn and was realtively enthusiastic. Students gave the tour. I went to an open house 2 yrs ago and it was a much better experience. They said about 4 to 6 weeks after October 15 we should hear something. NJMS used to be among my first 3 choices, now it's way down the list if I get to choose.

why did your impression go down? because of the tour or the place or what? if you went to an open house sometime ago, and your impression just recently went down, it was more probably because of something on interview day. is there anything that the rest of us should be warned about? sorry, i don't mean to pry. just trying to figure things out. obviously i haven't been to njms in a while, so i don't what has changed there. 🙂
 
why did your impression go down? because of the tour or the place or what? if you went to an open house sometime ago, and your impression just recently went down, it was more probably because of something on interview day. is there anything that the rest of us should be warned about? sorry, i don't mean to pry. just trying to figure things out. obviously i haven't been to njms in a while, so i don't what has changed there. 🙂

Well, I had 3 interviews and I felt like I was treated like a king in the other schools. Meetings in the Board room, get to meet and talk to the dean and admission director one on one, greetings by department directors, breakfast, lunch, post interview wrap-up, student interview, and just an overall warmth. I did not feel that at NJMS. It just felt like they could care less. For example, in the other schools we were all congratulated about making it there and what kind of an accomplishment it was. At NJMS nobody said anything to us. Obviously I don't need them to congratulate me, but when somebody, in the same circumstances, treats you a whole lot better, you definitely notice it.
Also the interview was more "standard" questions at NJMS, look at this grade, look at that class and BS like that. In the other schools (I gotta say the other schools are top tier schools though) the whole thing was much more intellectual, talking about music, personal philosophy, foreign policies, with one guy we even ended up talking about Roman history (I partially have a background in that). I guess that's how you know where you fit!
 
Plauto, I'm sorry your experience was disappointing. Mine was very enjoyable.

When I got there, I readily found parking (contrary to what I had heard...maybe I was just lucky). I went up to the admissions office, and had my interview in a small room with two chairs, and a round table in between. There was a window, and air conditioning, so everything was comfortable.

I was asked a few of the "standard" questions like why medicine, tell me about your research, why NJMS, etc.. But most of the questions the interviewer asked me were either based on what I had written in my personal statement or EC list. These questions were basically starting-points for conversation. The interviewer listened carefully to what I said, and asked more questions along that line. Basically, I felt like I controlled the course of the conversation. I wanted to talk about the uninsured, especially in Newark, and things like that, and the interviewer was very interested in what I had to say. Overall, it felt more like a conversation than an interview. Absolutely NO stress. None. Nada.

The interview was supposed to last an hour, but lasted about 1 hour and 30 minutes. The student interview (optional) I had was cancelled, and I was offered another one after the tour, but I had to go somewhere afterwards, so I declined. The tour guide came in (a couple minutes late), but this just gave me some time to talk to the other interviewees. Everybody agreed that there was no stress during their interviews.

During the tour, we had a second year student show us around. We went to the library, computer lab, lecture halls, lounge, and the anatomy lab. He explained the cirriculum, and how we start shadowing doctors during the first week of classes. Everything is very integrated, so that when they start the 3rd and 4th years, its nothing new. The classes supposedly are also integrated, so that you don't have exams for two classes the same day (usually a two week interval).

Before going to NJMS, I had a bit of a negative impression, based on what I had heard from SDN. But after seeing everything, its great. Keep in mind, this was my first interview, so I have nothing else to compare it to. Maybe other schools do treat you better at the interviews. All I know is that my interview was very enjoyable. I have a couple of other interviews coming up soon, so I'll be able to compare them with this one. But for now, NJMS is much better than what I had expected.

Let me know if you guys have questions, I'll be happy to answer them.
 
Plauto, I'm sorry your experience was disappointing. Mine was very enjoyable.

When I got there, I readily found parking (contrary to what I had heard...maybe I was just lucky). I went up to the admissions office, and had my interview in a small room with two chairs, and a round table in between. There was a window, and air conditioning, so everything was comfortable.

I was asked a few of the "standard" questions like why medicine, tell me about your research, why NJMS, etc.. But most of the questions the interviewer asked me were either based on what I had written in my personal statement or EC list. These questions were basically starting-points for conversation. The interviewer listened carefully to what I said, and asked more questions along that line. Basically, I felt like I controlled the course of the conversation. I wanted to talk about the uninsured, especially in Newark, and things like that, and the interviewer was very interested in what I had to say. Overall, it felt more like a conversation than an interview. Absolutely NO stress. None. Nada.

The interview was supposed to last an hour, but lasted about 1 hour and 30 minutes. The student interview (optional) I had was cancelled, and I was offered another one after the tour, but I had to go somewhere afterwards, so I declined. The tour guide came in (a couple minutes late), but this just gave me some time to talk to the other interviewees. Everybody agreed that there was no stress during their interviews.

During the tour, we had a second year student show us around. We went to the library, computer lab, lecture halls, lounge, and the anatomy lab. He explained the cirriculum, and how we start shadowing doctors during the first week of classes. Everything is very integrated, so that when they start the 3rd and 4th years, its nothing new. The classes supposedly are also integrated, so that you don't have exams for two classes the same day (usually a two week interval).

Before going to NJMS, I had a bit of a negative impression, based on what I had heard from SDN. But after seeing everything, its great. Keep in mind, this was my first interview, so I have nothing else to compare it to. Maybe other schools do treat you better at the interviews. All I know is that my interview was very enjoyable. I have a couple of other interviews coming up soon, so I'll be able to compare them with this one. But for now, NJMS is much better than what I had expected.

Let me know if you guys have questions, I'll be happy to answer them.

thanks for such a thorough recap of your day and your thoughts. it has been very helpful 🙂

i just got an invite from rwj yesterday. has anyone interviewed there yet?
 
I guess I sounded a little negative in my post. I can confirm all the nice things you said in your post. It was not by any means a negative experience.
Just not as positive as what I've seen elsewhere.
 
I am a 1st yr at njms. I thought the interview here was great, and in fact Dr. H. told me that my interviewer's strong advocacy on my behalf is what got me in (i was borderline).

I did have an awful overall experience at RWJ however. When I arrived on my interview morning, i waited for a half hour for the doctor i was assigned to show up. When her secretary arrived, she informed my that the doctor was away all week in Phoenix. I called the admissions office and they rudely said "well what do you want us to do about it?". Another doctor generously agreed to interview me, but he had no information on me or my application. His first question was "What's your name?". Also, he made some odd comments about my race...."It's refreshing to finally see a white kid in here. Seems like everyone is indian or something." It was awkward.

I ended up getting put on the high priority wait list for RWJ, and since I was already accepted to NJMS i basically decided not to go there no matter what happened. I never heard back from them about acceptance until I had already moved in to my apartment in Newark this august. I laughed when I received this email from the director of admissions at RWJ:

"I am sure that the passage of time and the lack of any word from this institution have been correctly interpreted by you as meaning that we could not offer you a place in our first year class. Nonetheless, I wish to write and inform you officially."

After my beat interview it seemed pretty fitting. Because we never bothered to call you, email you, or write you, I guess you figured out we don't want you. Haha.

I'm not a rwj hater, but I think their admissions office was pretty unprofessional. I would have been pretty devastated by that rejection email if it was my last hope at med school this year.

Anyway...enough procrastinating. I have anatomy to study for. Best of luck to all of you. Let me know if you have NJMS questions.
 
Hmm..I notice that some people have a negative experience during an interview, and quickly jump to conclusions (not pointed directly towards anyone in this thread, but something I have noticed overall).

One single bad experience should not dramaticly influence your opinion of the school. This would be the equivalent of a medical school seeing you got a B in a class, and automatically rejecting you.

I hope when everyone decides where they want to go, they do not make their decision based solely on their interview experience.

Oh, and don't take advice about choosing schools from current students in either NJMS or RWJ, they like talking smack about each other. Visit the Allo Class Threads if you don't believe me. Too much propaganda. 🙄 😛
 
I hope when everyone decides where they want to go, they do not make their decision based solely on their interview experience.

🙄 😛

That is partly true; however, that is the only chance a school gets to impress you. If they miss it, I think they don't care that much.
Again, having a bad interviewer (not my case) is different from the whole day being not that impressive.
 
Oh, and don't take advice about choosing schools from current students in either NJMS or RWJ, they like talking smack about each other. Visit the Allo Class Threads if you don't believe me. Too much propaganda. 🙄 😛

I don't agree with you on this one. At both rwj and njms there are many kids that actually made the choice between the two schools. It could be helpful to hear why they chose rwj over njms or vice-versa. Of course you have to realize that students at either school will be biased toward their own school. My advice would be to seek out kids from both schools and discuss the strengths and weaknesses of the school they attend. Then decide which is the best fit for you.

I agree with you that you shouldn't base your decision on one bad experience, but for a lot of applicants that one visit is all they really have to go on. If the school gives you a negative impression on a day when they are trying to put their best face on for you, I think that says a lot.
 
Eh, I guess I'm just a big fan of giving people (and schools) second chances. The first impression does not mean much to me. I guess everyone has their way of judging schools.

I agree that we should listen to students who are already in medical school about why they chose one school over another. That information is valuable. I'm just saying that the information should be taken with a grain of salt. After all, the information is very subjective.
 
if I could get an interview with them, that would be great... I'm instate and haven't heard a peep from them since completion!

Does anyone know whether RWJ conducts any interviews at their camden campus? I am more interested in RWJ primarily because they have a camden campus and I would love 😍 to do my clerkship at Cooper. It's a wonderful hospital.
 
I have my RWJ interview today morning! Ahhhh! :scared: 😱 :barf:
 
if I could get an interview with them, that would be great... I'm instate and haven't heard a peep from them since completion!

Does anyone know whether RWJ conducts any interviews at their camden campus? I am more interested in RWJ primarily because they have a camden campus and I would love 😍 to do my clerkship at Cooper. It's a wonderful hospital.

You can schedule interviews at any of the three campuses. There is no orientation at Camden so they do recommend you visit the other two even if you choose to interview at camden.
I also like RWJ because of the camden option. Are you from South Jersey?
 
Sorry, I won't have a chace to write about the experience until tonight or tommorow morning. I had to go to classes after my interview yesterday, and I have classes all day today.

But I will tell you that it was VERY stressful (for me), because I'm used to being able to read people. Usually a smile, nod, or even a blink of the eye. But my interviewer, Dean T 🙂scared🙂, was a tough interviewer and didn't really give me unconcious feedback. Because of this, it didn't really feel like a conversation. It felt like a question/answer session, where she ran down a checklist of questions, and I answered them to the best of my ability. But without any facial feedback from her, I have absolutely no idea what to expect.

As I said, I'll write a detailed response when I get time.
 
I saw on your MD profile that NJMS told you 4-6 weeks after oct 15th for notification. Doesnt that sound late? I am pretty sure msar said oct 15th and that was the day they called in the past. I was wondering if since you go to school near there you know anything about why they plan on notifying so late?
 
I know in the past they notified applicants the day of Oct 15th. But NJMS told everyone I interviewed with we would hear the aforementioned 4-6 weeks after. I don't know if they are doing this for everyone.

Sorry to hear you had a stresfull interview, MundaneMD. I don't think that is the norm at UMDNJ. I don't think the style of interview has any bearing on acceptance or not though. Lots of people feel that they had great conversational style interviews and get rejected, and vice versa.
 
Lots of people feel that they had great conversational style interviews and get rejected, and vice versa.

This is true. Also, how we feel about interviews depends on our own standards and expectations (obviously). so even if you think it didn't go well, from someone else's perspective (ie. interviewer), you might've just been fine. personally, i think it is very misleading when interviewers are all positive and tell you that you did great and you will most likely be getting in. i think it is more professional to maintain a neutral stance when you're with an applicant.

all in all, mundanemd, perhaps your interview actually went better than you though 🙂
 
You can schedule interviews at any of the three campuses. There is no orientation at Camden so they do recommend you visit the other two even if you choose to interview at camden.
I also like RWJ because of the camden option. Are you from South Jersey?

Hey. I'm from the Cherry Hill-Marlton area. Its good to know that I can interview so close to home should I be so lucky to get one. Has anyone on here interviewed in Camden?

I called RWJ today and asked about my app, and the lady was nice. She told me that a decision was made and I should expect to hear from them "very soon" by email. It sounded positive but who knows, I couldnt really read her. I hope to have some good news by the end of the week.
 
hey bella, when were u complete at rwj?
 
Hey. I'm from the Cherry Hill-Marlton area. Its good to know that I can interview so close to home should I be so lucky to get one. Has anyone on here interviewed in Camden?

I called RWJ today and asked about my app, and the lady was nice. She told me that a decision was made and I should expect to hear from them "very soon" by email. It sounded positive but who knows, I couldnt really read her. I hope to have some good news by the end of the week.

They told me the same exact thing 20 days ago. I should have asked for a definition of how short is very short!
 
soo is anyone else a reapplicant to these schools this year?

i interviewed at both schools last year, obviously it didnt go very well lol

where's xdor?
 
Thanks for all your comforting words. I guess we just have to wait and see what happens.

And I think they said 4-6 weeks after Oct 15, but I think they mean to say "after 4-6 weeks, or after Oct 15. Whichever comes later." My interviewer at NJMS told me that they can't give a response before Oct 15 because of some rule by AAMC. So it's really 4-6 weeks after your interview date, but not before Oct 15.
 
And now, for the moment you've been waiting for...dun dun dun...

My interview was scheduled in the morning, on the Piscataway campus. I parked in lot A, and proceeded to the tallest building. (Hint: make sure you let them know if you're driving there atleast 2 days before your interview.) When I got there, I was lost in the building, but two students saw I was a little lost, so they showed me where the admissions office was. I got there, they scanned my passport, and they asked for the form. (Hint: make sure you print and sign the form they send by email before you get there.)

I proceeded to the waiting room, where I must have waited for about 30 minutes (interviewer was 15 minutes late, because she was very busy). So I go into her office, and the interview begins. The questions she asked were the same ones from the Interview Feedback section on SDN. I think they might have a list of questions that they run through, which is the same for every interviewee. I don't really want to disclose them, but I can tell you that they are the EXACT SAME as the ones from the feedback section.
So, after the interview, which was rather quick (30mins vs my 1hr 30mins at NJMS), I was sent back to the waiting room with some other interviewees.

So we talked and waited for the orientation session. Dean T gave a powerpoint presentation about the school, which I thought was pretty cool. I wish NJMS had given one. Afterwards, we had a short information session about financial aid. (Even for an in-state student, total costs are about $50,000 per year!!!)

After that, four medical students came into the room, and had lunch with us. They answered questions, showed us their typical schedule, and talked about how their school is great. There was one student in particular, who referred to RWJ as the only "real" medical school in NJ. I'm sure he was joking, but still. The other students were a bit more subtle, because they would say things like how the anatomy lab was on the second floor, as opposed to being isolated in the basement (clearly a reference to NJMS, for those of you who've seen it). The students were very nice and helpful, but it seemed they were a bit more focused on distancing themselves from NJMS. (On the other hand, the tour guide had not even mentioned anything about RWJ). After the tour, everything was done.

I liked how the day was planned out this way, as opposed to NJMS, which had the interview, lunch, and tour. The powerpoint presentation showed off all the buildings they have on their campus. They have a child institute, cancer institute, and tons of other opportunities. The staff and Dean T were really nice, and ready to help answer any questions. The students that gave the tour were also very nice, but I thought they were obsessing about NJMS (probably because I told them that I had already interviewed at NJMS two weeks ago). The school recently switched to a pass/fail cirriculum (Dean T was a big player in the change, so make sure you tell her how much you appreciate the pass/fail cirriculum).

Overall, I liked everything they had to offer. With respect to the NJMS vs RWJ debate, I noticed that RWJ has more research opportunities, while NJMS is more focused on the clinical aspect. (I had asked both interviewers about research opportunities at their respective schools, and NJMS told me that there are many opportunities, but its a little competitive to obtain a research position. RWJ told me that they encourage all their students to do research, and that anyone can readily obtain a research position.) RWJ has a newly created Clinical Academic Building, which is dedicated for research, and the facilities are great (I can tell you from experience, because I worked there for the summer). NJMS is trying to catch up in terms of NIH funding, but they are still a few years away. NJMS serves the northern NJ area, whereas RWJ serves the central/southern NJ area. Both are great schools, both have friendly students, and both have interesting cases with respect to patients. The downsides of the RWJ campus are that while you attend classes during the first and second year on the Piscataway side, you have to take a car to get to the NB side. In other words, you MUST own a car or have someone drop you during the third and fourth years. What's nice is that since RWJ is located within the Rutgers campus (after all, a few years ago, RWJ was called Rutgers Medical School), you can use the gym, and other facilities.


NJMS - clinical exposure, more opportunities to serve uninsured, more diverse patient population

RWJ - more research opportunities, more affiliations with things like the cancer institute, child institute, and many others

Things they both have in common: good support if you struggle with classes, good financial aid services, moderately competitive atmospheres (as opposed to cutthroat competition at ivy league schools), diverse student body, numerous opportunities for enjoying night-life (RWJ --> Philly, NJMS --> NYC), and friendly staff/students.
 
And now, for the moment you've been waiting for...dun dun dun...

My interview was scheduled in the morning, on the Piscataway campus. I parked in lot A, and proceeded to the tallest building. (Hint: make sure you let them know if you're driving there atleast 2 days before your interview.) When I got there, I was lost in the building, but two students saw I was a little lost, so they showed me where the admissions office was. I got there, they scanned my passport, and they asked for the form. (Hint: make sure you print and sign the form they send by email before you get there.)

I proceeded to the waiting room, where I must have waited for about 30 minutes (interviewer was 15 minutes late, because she was very busy). So I go into her office, and the interview begins. The questions she asked were the same ones from the Interview Feedback section on SDN. I think they might have a list of questions that they run through, which is the same for every interviewee. I don't really want to disclose them, but I can tell you that they are the EXACT SAME as the ones from the feedback section.
So, after the interview, which was rather quick (30mins vs my 1hr 30mins at NJMS), I was sent back to the waiting room with some other interviewees.

So we talked and waited for the orientation session. Dean T gave a powerpoint presentation about the school, which I thought was pretty cool. I wish NJMS had given one. Afterwards, we had a short information session about financial aid. (Even for an in-state student, total costs are about $50,000 per year!!!)

After that, four medical students came into the room, and had lunch with us. They answered questions, showed us their typical schedule, and talked about how their school is great. There was one student in particular, who referred to RWJ as the only "real" medical school in NJ. I'm sure he was joking, but still. The other students were a bit more subtle, because they would say things like how the anatomy lab was on the second floor, as opposed to being isolated in the basement (clearly a reference to NJMS, for those of you who've seen it). The students were very nice and helpful, but it seemed they were a bit more focused on distancing themselves from NJMS. (On the other hand, the tour guide had not even mentioned anything about RWJ). After the tour, everything was done.

I liked how the day was planned out this way, as opposed to NJMS, which had the interview, lunch, and tour. The powerpoint presentation showed off all the buildings they have on their campus. They have a child institute, cancer institute, and tons of other opportunities. The staff and Dean T were really nice, and ready to help answer any questions. The students that gave the tour were also very nice, but I thought they were obsessing about NJMS (probably because I told them that I had already interviewed at NJMS two weeks ago). The school recently switched to a pass/fail cirriculum (Dean T was a big player in the change, so make sure you tell her how much you appreciate the pass/fail cirriculum).

Overall, I liked everything they had to offer. With respect to the NJMS vs RWJ debate, I noticed that RWJ has more research opportunities, while NJMS is more focused on the clinical aspect. (I had asked both interviewers about research opportunities at their respective schools, and NJMS told me that there are many opportunities, but its a little competitive to obtain a research position. RWJ told me that they encourage all their students to do research, and that anyone can readily obtain a research position.) RWJ has a newly created Clinical Academic Building, which is dedicated for research, and the facilities are great (I can tell you from experience, because I worked there for the summer). NJMS is trying to catch up in terms of NIH funding, but they are still a few years away. NJMS serves the northern NJ area, whereas RWJ serves the central/southern NJ area. Both are great schools, both have friendly students, and both have interesting cases with respect to patients. The downsides of the RWJ campus are that while you attend classes during the first and second year on the Piscataway side, you have to take a car to get to the NB side. In other words, you MUST own a car or have someone drop you during the third and fourth years. What's nice is that since RWJ is located within the Rutgers campus (after all, a few years ago, RWJ was called Rutgers Medical School), you can use the gym, and other facilities.


NJMS - clinical exposure, more opportunities to serve uninsured, more diverse patient population

RWJ - more research opportunities, more affiliations with things like the cancer institute, child institute, and many others

Things they both have in common: good support if you struggle with classes, good financial aid services, moderately competitive atmospheres (as opposed to cutthroat competition at ivy league schools), diverse student body, numerous opportunities for enjoying night-life (RWJ --> Philly, NJMS --> NYC), and friendly staff/students.

sounds like you didn't have such a bad day after all, and you also seem to have gotten a good idea of what rwj is like. it seems like there is a significant rivalry between njms and rwj. at least to me, this was projected in the attitudes of the students who were touring when i went to an open houses at rw. sometimes i wonder why it's such a huge issue. regardless of where you go to medical school, the fact is that you got in, and that is commendable in itself.

anyway, hope you hear good news soon, mundanemd. would love to hear other people's interview experiences as well 🙂
 
Sounds like you had a good day at RWJ. I can't believe those RWJ kids claim they are the only real medical school in NJ. I'm not surprised, but it's still pretty lame. I have heard that students and sometimes even professors at RWJ will say "that's the answer at NJMS" if someone gets an answer wrong. I don't know if that's true, but I can tell you that I have never heard students or teachers at NJMS talking badly about RWJ. That's just unprofessional.

It is basically just as hard to get into either school. Both schools are academically excellent, as are most medical schools in the US. I seriously hope that no one believes there is a big academic difference between the schools, because there isn't. RWJ and NJMS should be working together to improve the university, not competing with each other.

BTW our anatomy lab is not in the basement. It is on the first floor about 50 yards from the first and second year lecture halls and the hospital cafeteria. It is really in the dead center of the medical school However, it does have ugly 70's-style orange cabinets.
 
Yup, my day was definetely good. It's the interview I'm worried about. 😛

I agree about the rivalry, it's pretty lame in my opinion.

There are some small differences between the schools, as I pointed out towards the bottom of my previous post, but every US medical school is pretty much equivalent.

Edit: Although, I should note, those students only launched into the attack on NJMS after I told them I had interviewed there. Maybe they were trying to convince me that RWJ is better to try to make me choose RWJ over NJMS. Maybe they earn a commision on every student they recruit. :laugh:


Hey cpants, I have a couple of questions, if you don't mind answering them:

1) Do you guys have a pass/fail system? Or is it different?
2) Do you live on campus, or commute?
3) From the NJMS financial aid packet, they said it costs about $50000 per year. How much do your total expenses come out to be per year? Is it close to $50K, or is it significantly different?
 
Hey cpants, I have a couple of questions, if you don't mind answering them:

1) Do you guys have a pass/fail system? Or is it different?
2) Do you live on campus, or commute?
3) From the NJMS financial aid packet, they said it costs about $50000 per year. How much do your total expenses come out to be per year? Is it close to $50K, or is it significantly different?

1) Our grades are Fail, Pass, High Pass, or Honors. These break down roughly the same way letter grades would. 92+ average is Honors, 82-92 is High Pass, etc. I think it is similar to the system they have at RWJ but I'm not sure.
2) I live in the new dorm at 180 W. Market St. in Newark. It's cool because a good amount of our class lives here, and it's a pretty fun atmosphere. Also it is really convenient (a 5 minute walk to class, library, lab, hospital and you don't even have to go outside). I won't be living here next year because A: it is very expensive, B: the building management is not pleasant to deal with, C: there are a lot of prohibitions on what you can bring into the apartments, D: maintenance crews, fire inspectors, window washers can and will enter and leave your apartment w/o notice. Off-campus there are great apartments about 2 blocks away at University Center. They cost about the same as the dorm apartments, but they have a free gym included and it's a lot more low key. A good number of UMDNJ kids live there as well as Rutgers and NJIT students. In Newark there aren't many other options. There are many towns that are 10-15 minutes away where you can live for cheaper and actually be able to do things like go for a run outside.
3) For me the expense estimates have been pretty close. You can find a breakdown online somewhere of how they do it. It's something like 24k for tuition, 11k for apartment, 3-4k for books and equipment, plus a few thousand for food, and a few thousand for the random stuff you will need to spend money on.

Hope this helps.
 
Sounds like you had a good day at RWJ. I can't believe those RWJ kids claim they are the only real medical school in NJ. I'm not surprised, but it's still pretty lame. I have heard that students and sometimes even professors at RWJ will say "that's the answer at NJMS" if someone gets an answer wrong. I don't know if that's true, but I can tell you that I have never heard students or teachers at NJMS talking badly about RWJ. That's just unprofessional.

I have never in my four years at RWJ heard any professor badmouth NJMS. And as for the students, the majority of us are too busy to care what NJMS students are doing.
 
Got my call from RWJ and I am pretty sure I am going there! anyone else?
 
Got my call from RWJ and I am pretty sure I am going there! anyone else?

hey, congratulations! i'm sure you're very relieved to have the acceptance. if i get in, i will definitely be going there too. though i don't expect to hear today, because i only just interviewed about a week or so ago. i wonder if anyone else got accepted there today. anyway, congratulations again! 🙂
 
Got my call from RWJ and I am pretty sure I am going there! anyone else?

Congrats! You must be very happy. Was RWJ your first choice?

My interviews at NJMS and SOM were only two weeks ago, so I don't think I'll hear anything for a little while longer.
 
anyone been called by NJMS???

Interviewed there about a month ago and wondering if i will hear today
 
Yeah I'm also waiting on NJMS, I interviewed there more than a month ago so I'm expecting something soon. I just had RWJ last week so that might be a while still. I'm still not sure which of the two I'd prefer- I think I'm leaning towards NJMS.
 
Only two NJ school calls on SND? There were a lot more posts last year- whats going on?

I know RWJ leaves a message if you miss your phone, does any one know if NJMS does? I had my phone where there was no service and so I cant even see if there were missed calls.
 
MY phone was in a no service area and after class I had a voicemail that was blank for about 10 seconds :scared: could it have been Heinrich???
 
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