NYCOM Discussion thread 2007-2008

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Did anyone ever see that Seinfeld episode where Jerry can't quite figure out the girl he's dating: sometimes she's beautiful and other times she is very unattractive. It turns out it depends on the lighting...funny episode.

That's how I feel it is with NYCOM. As a current applicant, I sometimes feel very positively about NYCOM and wish to go there. I think to myself, "Wow, this school is great. The faculty seem well-qualified, and students do well, etc." Other days, I feel that NYCOM, when compared to other schools, just doesn't have its act together, is a bit less classy or sophisticated, or is not as strong a program. I say to myself, "This school is a bit rough around the edges, and isn't quite up to par."

So, which NYCOM is it? I don't know. The Open House was organized, and perhaps a good showing, but the Interview Day was the most uninspiring of all the schools I've been to. I felt like I was at the DMV, rather than a top-notch university. The least they could do is wipe down the black-board in the conference room, and give us a classy powerpoint presentation about the school. Instead, we got a rushed and quite silly talk from Ms. Croot (ALL schools have simulated patient robots- it's not a big selling point anymore. In fact, most schools have more robots that NYCOM.), we never got a formal talk about financial aid because they were "behind schedule" (that's all they talked about), the students were genuinely helpful, but we sat there without lunches for 15 minutes before they realized they were eating and we weren't- it's not their fault, just poor organization. Dr. Elkowitz was the shining beacon of light that gave me hope that, once accepted, the faculty was the strong point.

Lastly, the interview, albeit relaxed and stress-free as everyone loves to share, was all fluff and little substance. I think questions like "Why medicine," "Why NYCOM," "Why DO and not MD," are great questions that should be asked which weren't. A plethora of questions like "I see you worked in the Biochem Dept- tell me about that," "I see you volunteered after Katrina- tell me about that," "I see you did some research- tell me about that..." is not meaningful in my mind. This line of questions doesn't really get at anything, and left me wanting to explain my interests in NYCOM. That's hard to do when not given the opportunity.

In closing, NYCOM seems great at times, and not-so-great at times. While one might think this is all schools, NYCOM typifies this inconsistency.
 
Did anyone ever see that Seinfeld episode where Jerry can't quite figure out the girl he's dating: sometimes she's beautiful and other times she is very unattractive. It turns out it depends on the lighting...funny episode.

That's how I feel it is with NYCOM. As a current applicant, I sometimes feel very positively about NYCOM and wish to go there. I think to myself, "Wow, this school is great. The faculty seem well-qualified, and students do well, etc." Other days, I feel that NYCOM, when compared to other schools, just doesn't have its act together, is a bit less classy or sophisticated, or is not as strong a program. I say to myself, "This school is a bit rough around the edges, and isn't quite up to par."

So, which NYCOM is it? I don't know. The Open House was organized, and perhaps a good showing, but the Interview Day was the most uninspiring of all the schools I've been to. I felt like I was at the DMV, rather than a top-notch university. The least they could do is wipe down the black-board in the conference room, and give us a classy powerpoint presentation about the school. Instead, we got a rushed and quite silly talk from Ms. Croot (ALL schools have simulated patient robots- it's not a big selling point anymore. In fact, most schools have more robots that NYCOM.), we never got a formal talk about financial aid because they were "behind schedule" (that's all they talked about), the students were genuinely helpful, but we sat there without lunches for 15 minutes before they realized they were eating and we weren't- it's not their fault, just poor organization. Dr. Elkowitz was the shining beacon of light that gave me hope that, once accepted, the faculty was the strong point.

Lastly, the interview, albeit relaxed and stress-free as everyone loves to share, was all fluff and little substance. I think questions like "Why medicine," "Why NYCOM," "Why DO and not MD," are great questions that should be asked which weren't. A plethora of questions like "I see you worked in the Biochem Dept- tell me about that," "I see you volunteered after Katrina- tell me about that," "I see you did some research- tell me about that..." is not meaningful in my mind. This line of questions doesn't really get at anything, and left me wanting to explain my interests in NYCOM. That's hard to do when not given the opportunity.

In closing, NYCOM seems great at times, and not-so-great at times. While one might think this is all schools, NYCOM typifies this inconsistency.

You have some very good observations. I don't really know who you interviewed with, or which students did your tour, but I can say that your experience was probably different from many.

Just as an example, my interview last year was close to an hour long and touched on all of the standard questions PLUS discussions on medieval history, the Crusades, medicine, robotics and technology, and more. It was that diverse. Somehow, I was able to tie it all in with why I wanted to go into medicine and specifically NYCOM.

I think that NYCOM could probably "shine" up the school grounds a bit. The best school interview that I had was probably NSU, but they don't really have to try too hard when the campus has palm trees on it 🙂

I don't think NYCOM "typifies inconsistency" more than any other school (of course I'm biased 😉). I'll put up my Touro - Mare Island interview as an example of similar feelings that I've had for a school/interview.

At any rate, it's good you've made these observations for yourself, because as I'm sure you'll hear, the "feel" you get for a school and it's students is an important factor in choosing the right medical school for you. 👍

PS: Our robots can destroy any other school's robots. I think NYCOM's has a flamethrower and a buzz saw attached. :laugh:
 
Did anyone ever see that Seinfeld episode where Jerry can't quite figure out the girl he's dating: sometimes she's beautiful and other times she is very unattractive. It turns out it depends on the lighting...funny episode.

That's how I feel it is with NYCOM. As a current applicant, I sometimes feel very positively about NYCOM and wish to go there. I think to myself, "Wow, this school is great. The faculty seem well-qualified, and students do well, etc." Other days, I feel that NYCOM, when compared to other schools, just doesn't have its act together, is a bit less classy or sophisticated, or is not as strong a program. I say to myself, "This school is a bit rough around the edges, and isn't quite up to par."

So, which NYCOM is it? I don't know. The Open House was organized, and perhaps a good showing, but the Interview Day was the most uninspiring of all the schools I've been to. I felt like I was at the DMV, rather than a top-notch university. The least they could do is wipe down the black-board in the conference room, and give us a classy powerpoint presentation about the school. Instead, we got a rushed and quite silly talk from Ms. Croot (ALL schools have simulated patient robots- it's not a big selling point anymore. In fact, most schools have more robots that NYCOM.), we never got a formal talk about financial aid because they were "behind schedule" (that's all they talked about), the students were genuinely helpful, but we sat there without lunches for 15 minutes before they realized they were eating and we weren't- it's not their fault, just poor organization. Dr. Elkowitz was the shining beacon of light that gave me hope that, once accepted, the faculty was the strong point.

Lastly, the interview, albeit relaxed and stress-free as everyone loves to share, was all fluff and little substance. I think questions like "Why medicine," "Why NYCOM," "Why DO and not MD," are great questions that should be asked which weren't. A plethora of questions like "I see you worked in the Biochem Dept- tell me about that," "I see you volunteered after Katrina- tell me about that," "I see you did some research- tell me about that..." is not meaningful in my mind. This line of questions doesn't really get at anything, and left me wanting to explain my interests in NYCOM. That's hard to do when not given the opportunity.

In closing, NYCOM seems great at times, and not-so-great at times. While one might think this is all schools, NYCOM typifies this inconsistency.

First... every school does not have a fully simulated patient like NYCOM has. When I was applying, only something like 15 schools in the country (MD and DO) had them, and I can't imagine that too many more have gotten them in 3 years. NYCOM has 2 of them, and they're getting a 3rd.

Second, I think that the kind of interview you are explaining is EXACTLY how you get to know a prospective student. Do you think that an interviewer is really gonna believe that EVERY student they see wants to do primary care in an underserved community, and LOVES the whole body approach to medicine? That stuff is so generic, and they just don't care. Asking about things you've done is how they get to know you as a person, and see if you are a good match for the school. Personally I think that is a much better way to interview.
 
in any interview, there are really generic ways to answer any question and there are really thought-provoking ways to do so. anytime i was asked about research, i refused to focus on things like "it was a great experience, i learned a lot and saw some interesting speakers"... more like, "learning to work with a variety of people in academic medicine, taking initiative on projects taught me to...".

to some extent, how the interview goes is partly up to you and your willingness to open up and stray away from the typical responses to generic questions. how much that reflects on the school is seriously up for debate - all my interviewers have asked the essentially the same things, just in different ways.

if you really have concerns about NYCOM, i'd check out the class of 2010 and 2011 threads, or get in contact with actual students who are willing to shoot it to you straight. good luck w your decision!
 
finally got that acceptance in the mail today after interviewing on 11/6/07!!!!!!!!!
 
Congrats! They give you any sort of explanation on that ridiculous wait time?
 
wooo interviewed on 1/10/2008 and got my acceptance letter today! yay! 🙂
 
wooo interviewed on 1/10/2008 and got my acceptance letter today! yay! 🙂


That's awesome! How is it that some people wait like a month while others get it in 9 days?? I interviewed 1/17..I wonder when I will get my response..😕
 
That's awesome! How is it that some people wait like a month while others get it in 9 days?? I interviewed 1/17..I wonder when I will get my response..😕

It could be because I was called for an interview the second week of December. I couldn't go because I had final exams that week and they didn't have any open slots until the 10th of January.

You should hear from them late January/early February. That's what they told me (probably you too) for people who interviewed around mid January. Good luck!!!! :luck:
 
i thought of something that you guys might want to know re: nycom. pm me.
 
finally got that acceptance in the mail today after interviewing on 11/6/07!!!!!!!!!

congratulations. are uncle jessie, joey, stephanie, dj, and michelle coming too???
 
hey guys I've been complete for about 3 weeks now and I'm wondering if I should email for a status update? I received a letter a couple weeks ago saying they will contact me if they decide to grant me an interview...

thanks
 
hey guys I've been complete for about 3 weeks now and I'm wondering if I should email for a status update? I received a letter a couple weeks ago saying they will contact me if they decide to grant me an interview...

thanks


They take forever...you might want to call them and let them know you haven't gotten anything yet.
 
They won't send it for a while, because they pretty much send them all at once. I was the first batch of acceptances and i didn't get that stuff until late march. Fill out your fafsa as soon as you have your taxes done, then just relax, the other stuff is pretty easy.

As for classes, they'll start on a monday, around the 20th of august. The last 2 years it's been 1 day of orientation, then classes start tues.

thats a good idea.

Also one more question. how are you paying for your tuition? is everything covered by your loans?
 
Did anybody send in their primary application toward the end of october and hear back from NYCOM for an interview yet? I'm still waiting! Or how long did it take to hear about an interview after you sent in your primary application? Thanks!
 
Did anybody send in their primary application toward the end of october and hear back from NYCOM for an interview yet? I'm still waiting! Or how long did it take to hear about an interview after you sent in your primary application? Thanks!
 
thats a good idea.

Also one more question. how are you paying for your tuition? is everything covered by your loans?

Yeah, I completely live off loans. Stafford covers tuition, and grad plus covers living expenses. Right now I take out max, but it's more than I need, and I plan to take out less next year.
 
Yeah, I completely live off loans. Stafford covers tuition, and grad plus covers living expenses. Right now I take out max, but it's more than I need, and I plan to take out less next year.

yup, i do the exact same thing
 
I've been complete since November and still haven't received an interview invite. I've heard back from every school I applied to except NYCOM... and already interviewed and received acceptances. Not sure why they take so long. You may want to call and make sure your file is complete. They interview through atleast March I think, so technically they could take another month or so to get back to you.
 
Help!! Please! 🙂

Why don't you check the interview invite thread and PM individual people that have gotten interviews? Better yet, post your question in the NYCOM interview thread!

Edit: Oh wait, you already did that, so you're double posting . . . 🙄
 
I have been complete at NYCOM since August and haven't heard anything back from them yet. They sent me a letter saying that they will send me a supplemental application if they decide to interview me. I haven't heard a peep out of them since that letter in Sept. but I'm not worried about it since I've gotten acceptances elsewhere.
 
After a lengthy wait since being interviewed I get a letter stating that I have been placed on a waitlist at NYCOM! Considering the fact that I have decent stats for a DO school, is there any explanation for this!? What is the percentage of people getting off this list??
 
Hmm. Were you a 'late' applicant? How did your interview go? Is there a chance that any of your letters of recommendation aren't good?
 
Hmm. Were you a 'late' applicant? How did your interview go? Is there a chance that any of your letters of recommendation aren't good?
i wouldn't say late. the interview was fine. i believe the letters were good!
 
your stats are good. you don't sound excited about the interview (or maybe it's my personal interpretation of "fine") so that could have been the difference--fine vs. awesome.

unfortunately, even if everyone here agrees that you probably should have been offered an unconditional seat, it still doesn't get you one.

good luck man i hope that WL moves for you if nycom is your first choice.
 
I have been complete at NYCOM since August and haven't heard anything back from them yet. They sent me a letter saying that they will send me a supplemental application if they decide to interview me. I haven't heard a peep out of them since that letter in Sept. but I'm not worried about it since I've gotten acceptances elsewhere.

ditto, except I don't have any acceptances (yet!) and I got the letter beginning of January....

😕
 
i wouldn't say late. the interview was fine. i believe the letters were good!

well good luck. the wait list definitely moves a good bit, a good friend of mine got in off it over the summer.
 
I have been complete at NYCOM since August and haven't heard anything back from them yet. They sent me a letter saying that they will send me a supplemental application if they decide to interview me. I haven't heard a peep out of them since that letter in Sept. but I'm not worried about it since I've gotten acceptances elsewhere.


same here, not even paying attention to it anymore.
 
I interviewed March 24th, waitlisted 8 weeks later and ultimately accepted off the WL in early July.

The waitlist moves a ton. If you search on here for the 2011 waitlist thread, I think 90% of the posters on that thread were ultimately accepted 🙂
 
After a lengthy wait since being interviewed I get a letter stating that I have been placed on a waitlist at NYCOM! Considering the fact that I have decent stats for a DO school, is there any explanation for this!? What is the percentage of people getting off this list??

well... although i understand your frustration, the truth is you just have to wait and see what happens. Patience young padawan, patience.😀👍
 
i dont like the way they run admissions. very un-friendly, un helpful. many times, they dont even notify that youve been rejected pre interview. ive written numerous lengthy emails about my concerns with this asking for help, and never received a response. plus, isnt there a dress code and mandatory attendance? psh, whatever.
 
i dont like the way they run admissions. very un-friendly, un helpful. many times, they dont even notify that youve been rejected pre interview. ive written numerous lengthy emails about my concerns with this asking for help, and never received a response. plus, isnt there a dress code and mandatory attendance? psh, whatever.

No dress code but yes, we do have mandatory attendance.
 
I don't know about the dress code, but mandatory attendence and the extremely difficult program just goes to show that they will break you , mold you and make you into a very good physician 😎👍
 
I don't know about the dress code, but mandatory attendence and the extremely difficult program just goes to show that they will break you , mold you and make you into a very good physician 😎👍

i always broke with rank and went to lectures in undergrad, they were valuable to me. the way i see it, i'll be there anyways, so what's the difference? and i already consider myself as dressing one step above everyone else, so a shirt and tie doesn't scare me one bit. i like dressing up :meanie:
 
You don't have to wear a shirt and tie to class. Maybe for ICC encounters but otherwise there's no dress code (excluding scrubs for anatomy and OMM of course).
 
i dont like the way they run admissions. very un-friendly, un helpful. many times, they dont even notify that youve been rejected pre interview. ive written numerous lengthy emails about my concerns with this asking for help, and never received a response. plus, isnt there a dress code and mandatory attendance? psh, whatever.


I didn't like the way they conducted the interview either. It felt like all of us were clumped into the hallway and noone cared too much that we were even there...and then we all waited for our turn to go in and noone even talked to us. it felt like we were being processed through a meat grinder or something...
 
well for all of you that are on the waitlist, i'm withdrawing my acceptance tomorrow, so hopefully that should open up a space for you.

good luck 🙂
 
where did you decide to go (out of curiosity)? touro-ny? or mare?
 
where did you decide to go (out of curiosity)? touro-ny? or mare?

for now i'm planning on touro-mi, but i'm actually hoping that one of my upcoming interviews at unecom or albany med will pull through for an acceptance, those two schools are in my top choices.

i really liked nycom and it was definitely not an easy decision to withdraw, but there were a lot of different reasons that factored into my decision. ultimately it just didn't feel like a perfect fit for me. also, i'm kind of tired of being in the ny metro area after 2 years of grad school in manhattan. i figure if i start to miss it i can always just schedule all of my clinical electives there 🙂

seriously though, i think it's a great school. good luck to everyone planning on going there, you'll have a fantastic education :luck:
 
for now i'm planning on touro-mi, but i'm actually hoping that one of my upcoming interviews at unecom or albany med will pull through for an acceptance, those two schools are in my top choices.

i really liked nycom and it was definitely not an easy decision to withdraw, but there were a lot of different reasons that factored into my decision. ultimately it just didn't feel like a perfect fit for me. also, i'm kind of tired of being in the ny metro area after 2 years of grad school in manhattan. i figure if i start to miss it i can always just schedule all of my clinical electives there 🙂

seriously though, i think it's a great school. good luck to everyone planning on going there, you'll have a fantastic education :luck:

Good luck at Touro-MI! In and Out burger + easy access to Fisherman's Wharf almost pulled me there as well. Plus Touro-MI is funding some sort of super duper particle beam deathstar or something (http://www.healthnewsdigest.com/new..._Touro_University_s_West_Coast_Facility.shtml) 😉
 
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