Official 2012-2013 GI fellowship application cycle

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I am currently 2nd resident at community teaching hospital. With step scores , step 1 233, step 2 248, step 3 218. Was awarded Intern of the year by the prog. Modest research experience 3 basic science manuscripts in GI , one published and 2 pending (one as first author) , couple of abstracts in GI and non- GI , ACP research abstract winner at regional ACP. Working on 2 retrospective projects GI related. IMG US citizen status, question to community members , how I can improve my chances for GI fellowship ?
1. Chief residency ?
2. Away elective in major teaching programs ?
 
Mbp1984 said:
I am currently 2nd resident at community teaching hospital. With step scores , step 1 233, step 2 248, step 3 218. Was awarded Intern of the year by the prog. Modest research experience 3 basic science manuscripts in GI , one published and 2 pending (one as first author) , couple of abstracts in GI and non- GI , ACP research abstract winner at regional ACP. Working on 2 retrospective projects GI related. IMG US citizen status, question to community members , how I can improve my chances for GI fellowship ?
1. Chief residency ?
2. Away elective in major teaching programs ?
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With your credentials, Infectious diseases will be a better fit for you. I know you want GI for the money but a recent CMS report projects a serious cut in remuneration for endoscopy and bundling of payments like it happened in nephrology with dialysis. GI docs will be making less than hospitalists by 2014. :scared:
 
Mbp1984 said:
I am currently 2nd resident at community teaching hospital. With step scores , step 1 233, step 2 248, step 3 218. Was awarded Intern of the year by the prog. Modest research experience 3 basic science manuscripts in GI , one published and 2 pending (one as first author) , couple of abstracts in GI and non- GI , ACP research abstract winner at regional ACP. Working on 2 retrospective projects GI related. IMG US citizen status, question to community members , how I can improve my chances for GI fellowship ?
1. Chief residency ?
2. Away elective in major teaching programs ?
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The honest answer is that what are seen as "disadvantages" in your application are IMG status and community hospital for residency -- neither of which you could change.

You have average stats. For publications, AMG applicants like myself have 8 GI clinical publications -- 6 of which I am first author, and that does not include presentations. Other AMGs from my university program have a similar number of publications, while others on this forum has a large number of posters but lesser publications. The single IMG from my residency has 4 first author GI publications. Your scores are average for an IMG applying for GI. Ideally, you want >90 on all 3 USMLE steps. Step 3 is used just as much as a filter as Step 1 is.

Both chief residency and away elective can improve your shots at all institutions and a single instutition, respectively.
 
Cleveland clinic reject
Iv at SUNY upstate
My friend in hem onc says iv season is over , is that true? I'm already heartbroken
 
Not for GI and Cards, which notoriously have been giving out late IVs compared to ther specialties.
 
i completely agree. GI INVITES are only about 50% out. GI is notorious in late invites, compared to cardiology. the majority of NY, philadelphia, NJ, and mid-west havent even sent anything yet.
 
bile duct said:
The honest answer is that what are seen as "disadvantages" in your application are IMG status and community hospital for residency -- neither of which you could change.

You have average stats. For publications, AMG applicants like myself have 8 GI clinical publications -- 6 of which I am first author, and that does not include presentations. Other AMGs from my university program have a similar number of publications, while others on this forum has a large number of posters but lesser publications. The single IMG from my residency has 4 first author GI publications. Your scores are average for an IMG applying for GI. Ideally, you want >90 on all 3 USMLE steps. Step 3 is used just as much as a filter as Step 1 is.

Both chief residency and away elective can improve your shots at all institutions and a single instutition, respectively.
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I do not think such broad generalizations of how prolific AMGs applications are is true at all. Research is necessary, yes, but 8 publications are absolutely not. As proof, I am an AMG from a low-tier med school, large & very well-respected University residency (though not along the lines of the Harvards, Hopkins, UCSF, etc.), Steps ranging from 245-260, 2 non-GI 1st author publications, 1 1st author GI case report, 1 GI (not 1st author) manuscript pending publication, and 1 poster presented at DDW. I have 10 interviews to date, all at large University hospitals. I agree that as an IMG, his/her applications is probably much shakier, but I'd also caution against discouraging folks by saying 8 GI publications or 10 posters are necessary to do well (granted I haven't matched, but do like my chances for the most part with 10 interviews).
 
First of all thanks for the reply, one thing I want to correct , is my all scores are above 90, let me be more specific 97/99/92, the second thing is , I know that I am not able to change IMG status. So still the question is that Chief residency is not going to matter or change anything in terms of overall application?
 
Mbp1984 said:
First of all thanks for the reply, one thing I want to correct , is my all scores are above 90, let me be more specific 97/99/92, the second thing is , I know that I am not able to change IMG status. So still the question is that Chief residency is not going to matter or change anything in terms of overall application?
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I am doing a Chief Residency right now and think it has helped my application significantly. I am a bit different in that I am AMG but it certainly helps and I think lends credence to University programs that you want to be an academic physician which is what I think ultimately they are looking for. Private/community programs may not be as concerned.
 
To Danmcdonald,

I would not judge anybody from what they want to do and what they are doing , before knowing the reason behind it. Thanks for the information though.
 
Another quiet day. Is it weird that I'm not getting many rejections? I'm not getting interviews and also not hearing about rejections. I don't know what that means.
 
Mbp1984 said:
To Danmcdonald,

I would not judge anybody from what they want to do and what they are doing , before knowing the reason behind it. Thanks for the information though.
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The TRUTH is everyone is doing it for the money. After-all, all the chief residents on this forum got to that position by being exceptional IM residents, so why not go practice IM. Dude, Its all about the BENJAMINS.😀
 
IMhappy said:
Another quiet day. Is it weird that I'm not getting many rejections? I'm not getting interviews and also not hearing about rejections. I don't know what that means.
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I know that feeling, exactly same here. I actually started feeling better after getting a few rejections because now I can at least move on.
 
just adding a couple more.

Albany
Georgetown
USC
 
georgetown today. adding to list including adog's recent additions.

Albany
Albert Einstein philadelphia
Albert Einstein Ny
Banner Health, Phoenix
Baylor Houston
Brigham and Women Hospital
Boston University
Brown University
California Pacific Medical Center
Carolinas Medical Center
Case Western
Cleveland Clinic (Ohio)
Cook County
Columbia
Dartmouth
Emory
Georgetown
Henry Ford, Detroit
Indiana University
Johns Hopkins
Loyola
Mayo Jacksonville
Mayo Rochester
Mass General
Medical College of Wisconsin
Methodist Dallas
NYU
Oregon Health Sciences
Ohio State University
Ochner Clinic
Stanford
St. Louis University, Missouri
St. Luke's Roosevelt
Stony Brook
SUNY Upstate
Texas A&M Scott and White
University of Alabama, Birmingham
University of Buffalo
University of California, Davis
University of California, Los Angeles
University of California, San Diego
University of California, San Francisco
University of Colorado, Denver
University of Florida, Jacksonville
Universityvof Florida, Gainesville
University of Louisville
University of Maryland
University of Miami
University of Michigan
University of Missouri, Columbia
University of New Mexico
University of North Carolina
University of Oklahoma
UPMC
University of Rochester
University of South Florida
Univiersity of Southern California
University of Texas, Southwestern
UTHSCSA
UTMB
UVA
University of Washington, Seattle
University of West Virginia
University of Wisconsin, Madison
Vanderbilt
Vermont
Virginia Commonwealth
Wake Forest
Washington Univ in St. Louis
William Beaumont
Yale



Rejections:


BIDMC
Henry Ford, Detroit
Mayo Rochester
Mt. Sinai, NY
OHSU
University of California, Fresno
UCSD
UCSF
University of Miami
University of Miami
University of Miami (LOL)
University of Missouri, Columbia
University of Washington, Seattle
Vanderbilt
Virginia Commonwealth
 
also adding UC Irvine.

Albany
Albert Einstein philadelphia
Albert Einstein Ny
Banner Health, Phoenix
Baylor Houston
Brigham and Women Hospital
Boston University
Brown University
California Pacific Medical Center
Carolinas Medical Center
Case Western
Cleveland Clinic (Ohio)
Cook County
Columbia
Dartmouth
Emory
Georgetown
Henry Ford, Detroit
Indiana University
Johns Hopkins
Loyola
Mayo Jacksonville
Mayo Rochester
Mass General
Medical College of Wisconsin
Methodist Dallas
NYU
Oregon Health Sciences
Ohio State University
Ochner Clinic
Stanford
St. Louis University, Missouri
St. Luke's Roosevelt
Stony Brook
SUNY Upstate
Texas A&M Scott and White
University of Alabama, Birmingham
University of Buffalo
University of California, Davis
University of California, Irvine
University of California, Los Angeles
University of California, San Diego
University of California, San Francisco
University of Colorado, Denver
University of Florida, Jacksonville
Universityvof Florida, Gainesville
University of Louisville
University of Maryland
University of Miami
University of Michigan
University of Missouri, Columbia
University of New Mexico
University of North Carolina
University of Oklahoma
UPMC
University of Rochester
University of South Florida
Univiersity of Southern California
University of Texas, Southwestern
UTHSCSA
UTMB
UVA
University of Washington, Seattle
University of West Virginia
University of Wisconsin, Madison
Vanderbilt
Vermont
Virginia Commonwealth
Wake Forest
Washington Univ in St. Louis
William Beaumont
Yale



Rejections:


BIDMC
Henry Ford, Detroit
Mayo Rochester
Mt. Sinai, NY
OHSU
University of California, Fresno
UCSD
UCSF
University of Miami
University of Miami
University of Miami (LOL)
University of Missouri, Columbia
University of Washington, Seattle
Vanderbilt
Virginia Commonwealth
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rudy31 said:
georgetown today. adding to list including adog's recent additions.

Albany
Albert Einstein philadelphia
Albert Einstein Ny
Banner Health, Phoenix
Baylor Houston
Brigham and Women Hospital
Boston University
Brown University
California Pacific Medical Center
Carolinas Medical Center
Case Western
Cleveland Clinic (Ohio)
Cook County
Columbia
Dartmouth
Emory
Georgetown
Henry Ford, Detroit
Indiana University
Johns Hopkins
Loyola
Mayo Jacksonville
Mayo Rochester
Mass General
Medical College of Wisconsin
Methodist Dallas
NYU
Oregon Health Sciences
Ohio State University
Ochner Clinic
Stanford
St. Louis University, Missouri
St. Luke's Roosevelt
Stony Brook
SUNY Upstate
Texas A&M Scott and White
University of Alabama, Birmingham
University of Buffalo
University of California, Davis
University of California, Los Angeles
University of California, San Diego
University of California, San Francisco
University of Colorado, Denver
University of Florida, Jacksonville
Universityvof Florida, Gainesville
University of Louisville
University of Maryland
University of Miami
University of Michigan
University of Missouri, Columbia
University of New Mexico
University of North Carolina
University of Oklahoma
UPMC
University of Rochester
University of South Florida
Univiersity of Southern California
University of Texas, Southwestern
UTHSCSA
UTMB
UVA
University of Washington, Seattle
University of West Virginia
University of Wisconsin, Madison
Vanderbilt
Vermont
Virginia Commonwealth
Wake Forest
Washington Univ in St. Louis
William Beaumont
Yale



Rejections:


BIDMC
Henry Ford, Detroit
Mayo Rochester
Mt. Sinai, NY
OHSU
University of California, Fresno
UCSD
UCSF
University of Miami
University of Miami
University of Miami (LOL)
University of Missouri, Columbia
University of Washington, Seattle
Vanderbilt
Virginia Commonwealth
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i have a query -- If you guys have such an awesome CV that out of 158 programs which we can apply - u have 50 + interviews, Why would you apply to 100 programs ???? When you can apply to your top 20 and leave some interviews for us. As it seems the top candidates are getting called from every were ...😕
 
ocyte said:
i have a query -- If you guys have such an awesome CV that out of 158 programsdrmon which we can apply - u have 50 + interviews, Why would you apply to 100 programs ???? When you can apply to your top 20 and leave some interviews for us. As it seems the top candidates are getting called from every were ...😕
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@drmonocte- this is the consolidated list, not individual list!!!!!
 
gifellowship said:
@drmonocte- this is the consolidated list, not individual list!!!!!
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There are couple of people on the forum who have there is own list of IV which are more than 20 and they have confirmed that it is their own IV list. I do not mean to be derogatory but Gi being competitive speciality - I have had seniors who in-spite of being IMG + community college+ 9 Pub med publications + CMR + visa have applied to only 20 programs and have got 8 IV. They matched in their top program - not internal candidate.
 
I think it's great that people on this thread are posting their credentials which will help future applicants and it's actually helping me understand a little about this selection process,... Here's my two cents- very few applicants have perfect cv s - top tier med school( no signif breaks) , university residency, AMG/ no visa requirement, focused cv showing continued work in GI possibly from med school, 90+ steps( closer to 99 if IMG- not required but generally the trend these days to get into residency the bar is this high) , great LORS from big names, good PS connecting the dots in the CV, publications (the more the better, first author better and good journal better than not) - these people with really good CVs could probably apply to 20 programs and get good invites and match..

I do think there is a part played by region of residency and ivs and logically programs would know the letter writers in the region better and strength of the IM program

Everyone usually has some combo of the above but not all and the applicant selection is based on the weight programs give to each part,.... so some of us will wonder why not me and never know,....
 
So begins another day...Let's all hope for the best!
 
Mbp1984 said:
I am currently 2nd resident at community teaching hospital. With step scores , step 1 233, step 2 248, step 3 218. Was awarded Intern of the year by the prog. Modest research experience 3 basic science manuscripts in GI , one published and 2 pending (one as first author) , couple of abstracts in GI and non- GI , ACP research abstract winner at regional ACP. Working on 2 retrospective projects GI related. IMG US citizen status, question to community members , how I can improve my chances for GI fellowship ?
1. Chief residency ?
2. Away elective in major teaching programs ?
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I think it's a little excessive to insult your credentials and suggest a field that has more spots than applicants. ID applicants typically have zero scholarly activity so lets not take it that far. If it takes an extra year to do something to compensate for IMG status and being at a community hospital then so be it. You still have a year to get some more research experience and make some connections. I would definitely do rotations at other hospitals if yours does not have a fellowship- consider another community hospital that does have one rather than the most prestigious where you may fall by the wayside. If you need to take a year off- consider chief year or research year at a hospital with a fellowship.
 
drmonocyte said:
i have a query -- If you guys have such an awesome CV that out of 158 programs which we can apply - u have 50 + interviews, Why would you apply to 100 programs ???? When you can apply to your top 20 and leave some interviews for us. As it seems the top candidates are getting called from every were ...😕
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that list is the summary of the forum interviews, not all my own. pretty sure there aren't enough days to go on 60 interviews. i'd need to take out an extra student loan to apply to 100 programs.
 
Anyone get an email from University of Arizona that they are reviewing applications?
 
Winthrop
Mount Sinai Elmhurst
 
adog said:
Winthrop
Mount Sinai Elmhurst
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@Adog,

How many interviews do you have so far and how many can you possibly attend? I believe applications ought to be put in sensibly and not just because you have the money to apply to everywhere possible (Alaska inclusive).😱
 
danmcdonald712 said:
@Adog,

How many interviews do you have so far and how many can you possibly attend? I believe applications ought to be put in sensibly and not just because you have the money to apply to everywhere possible (Alaska inclusive).😱
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Okay, from the point of view of someone that applied to way less program than most on this board, seriously, you guys need to calm down. You cant be attacking people because they applied to a lot of programs. Agreed, you dont have to apply to every program in the world, but if they choose to do that, and you have the money and time for interviews, then that's each person's issue. Not to be mean but its no one's fault that they are being offered interviews and maybe some others are not.

Also, if you did not notice, this was the first bolus year. Year of uncertainty, so peeps probably applied to more programs this year than usual.

My point is, let people be and stop attacking anyone posting more than 2 interviews on the board. We just might stop posting !

--- my 2 cents.
 
danmcdonald712 said:
@Adog,

How many interviews do you have so far and how many can you possibly attend? I believe applications ought to be put in sensibly and not just because you have the money to apply to everywhere possible (Alaska inclusive).😱
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I am an IMG with very few calls though applied to a lot of programs! But I feel that one should not go be judged by the no. of applications put in or interviews being attended. Its individual decision. One should not be critical of others with more interviews. Accept the fact that they have more interviews as their application is better than rest of us (including me). So pls leave here everyone alone and enjoy the game !
 
Ignoring the bickering...I have a feeling most programs that remain have set September 1st as their deadline. I'll bet next week will be another like the post July 15th week.
 
It's as simple as this " If it's meant to be, it's gonna happen". This forum has been wonderful tool to keep track of the process. Let's just keep it this way.
 
danmcdonald712 said:
@Adog,

How many interviews do you have so far and how many can you possibly attend? I believe applications ought to be put in sensibly and not just because you have the money to apply to everywhere possible (Alaska inclusive).😱
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Applied ~ 50 program, sensibly. As you can guess, applied mostly regionally, and then academic centers in other major cities. Will plan to interview at 12-15, will cancel others in a timely fashion. Am using this forum to get updated as well as update others on interview invites. I understand this is a stressful time, but lets not pass judgements on posters....
 
Umdnj sent a courtesy email that they will send invites next week.
 
nalbs14 said:
Umdnj sent a courtesy email that they will send invites next week.
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coutesy email from UMDNJ? the one in newark or new brunswick?

that's odd, bc i didn't get one from either place that i applied to....

did you mean that you sent them an email and the coordinator replied to tell you invites will be out next week??
 
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bile duct said:
coutesy email from UMDNJ? the one in newark or new brunswick?

that's odd, bc i didn't get one from either place that i applied to....

did you mean that you sent them an email and the coordinator replied to tell you invites will be out next week??
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No I didn't call or contact undnj. Robert Wood sent a courtesy email that invites will go out next week. It was short and vague.
 
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