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chillout547 said:
LizzyM~75 and i've only received 3 II all from in state schools...Submitted all secondaries mid July. Time to start panicking and looking for gap year ops? This process seems like winning the lottery :'(
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Why are you complaining about having 3 IIs? I feel blessed to have gotten 3 IIs. "3 makes an MD".
 
chillout547 said:
LizzyM~75 and i've only received 3 II all from in state schools...Submitted all secondaries mid July. Time to start panicking and looking for gap year ops? This process seems like winning the lottery :'(
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You might want to check the title of this thread before you post about worrying that you ONLY have 3 II's lol 😛
 
chillout547 said:
LizzyM~75 and i've only received 3 II all from in state schools...Submitted all secondaries mid July. Time to start panicking and looking for gap year ops? This process seems like winning the lottery :'(
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i got my first acceptance the other day from the first school i interviewed at. it only takes one...and here you are with 3 haha, you're fine.
 
chillout547 said:
LizzyM~75 and i've only received 3 II all from in state schools...Submitted all secondaries mid July. Time to start panicking and looking for gap year ops? This process seems like winning the lottery :'(
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You're complaining about 3 IIs in a 0 II SDN thread? To quote your username, chill the ef out

You should have gone to th panic thread
 
musicalfeet said:
UGH not totally true! I think I'm an okay interviewer and so far 3 does not make an MD for me.
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Well, at least you're being given a chance. This thread is not the right place to whine about having 3 IIs, unless your goal is to make people feel bad about themselves.

Edit: sorry did not look at the UN, thought you were the person who posted about the 3 II.
 
whatsupdr said:
If you look at the schools you apply to..and search the last years threads..looks like alot of movement happens this week..at least the ones I have applied too..I spend way too much time on SDN. obviously..
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I think the only problem with that theory is that this year we're one week behind last year's cycle (I don't remember why...but I know I've read that before). So if the pattern holds I would expect next week to be a big week.
 
catie_jane said:
I finished up my update letter today and want to upload/send them to schools tomorrow.

Would anyone be willing to take a look at it if I PM you it? It's not very long, I promise 🙂
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I can look at it if you still need eyes!
 
whatsupdr said:
If you look at the schools you apply to..and search the last years threads..looks like alot of movement happens this week..at least the ones I have applied too..I spend way too much time on SDN. obviously..
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Lannister said:
I think the only problem with that theory is that this year we're one week behind last year's cycle (I don't remember why...but I know I've read that before). So if the pattern holds I would expect next week to be a big week.
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I actually love that you guys are investing the matter for all of us 🙂 Thank you both 🙂

bananafish94 said:
Guys I don't know how much longer I can do this. I've never felt farther from being a doctor in my entire life. I just feel so low and ashamed.
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And yes I feel that way too, but the more I scribe and am in a clinical the setting the more confidence I have within myself that I know I can make a great physician, just got to get past this huge hurdle first!!
 
I am absolutely devastated.. 6 Rejections, 0 II, 1 Hold, silence from 20 others. I thought we still had time, but the other threads seem to think otherwise and are planning their next cycle. Thousands of dollars down the drain 🙁
 
cyang said:
I am absolutely devastated.. 6 Rejections, 0 II, 1 Hold, silence from 20 others. I thought we still had time, but the other threads seem to think otherwise and are planning their next cycle. Thousands of dollars down the drain 🙁
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Keep in mind the SDN mentality is way more neurotic and overzealous compared with the "general pop". Everyone has a 90th percentile+ MCAT, submissions have to be on day 1, etc etc
 
why haven't you guys submitted your DO app by now?
 
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cyang said:
I am absolutely devastated.. 6 Rejections, 0 II, 1 Hold, silence from 20 others. I thought we still had time, but the other threads seem to think otherwise and are planning their next cycle. Thousands of dollars down the drain 🙁
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I'm not sure where everyone is getting this from? Most of the schools I am applying to (minus a select few) are still scheduling interviews for November/early December dates. If schools are interviewing through February-April I am not sure how the cycle could be remotely over?

I suggest that everyone panicking should pick up a new hobby or just keep yourself distracted with work, friends, family, projects, cleaning, shadowing, clinical work, research etc. because that is the only way you are going to keep your mind off this stuff. At this point there is nothing we can do (minus update letters) to improve our applications so you mine as well enjoy this year instead of wasting it worrying about things we can't change.

Edit: I hope this didn't come off snarky. This is the first time I haven't been in school (taking a gap year) and I can't believe what a relief it is to finally just be able to make some money and do what I'd like with my time (instead of being holed up in the library). You all seem like awesome people and I want you guys to enjoy yourselves as well!
 
catie_jane said:
I'm not sure where everyone is getting this from? Most of the schools I am applying to (minus a select few) are still scheduling interviews for November/early December dates. If schools are interviewing through February-April I am not sure how the cycle could be remotely over?

I suggest that everyone panicking should pick up a new hobby or just keep yourself distracted with work, friends, family, projects, cleaning, shadowing, clinical work, research etc. because that is the only way you are going to keep your mind off this stuff. At this point there is nothing we can do (minus update letters) to improve our applications so you mine as well enjoy this year instead of wasting it worrying about things we can't change.

Edit: I hope this didn't come off snarky. This is the first time I haven't been in school (taking a gap year) and I can't believe what a relief it is to finally just be able to make some money and do what I'd like with my time (instead of being holed up in the library). You all seem like awesome people and I want you guys to enjoy yourselves as well!
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You're completely right. The encouragement means a lot!!
 
Monophasic said:
What is the rationale behind not applying to DO schools?
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I just would like to be an MD if possible. I will admit that I don't know too much about what DO 's can do. I am pretty sure that I want to do orthopedic or reconstructive surgery eventually.
 
Citygirl44 said:
I just would like to be an MD if possible. I will admit that I don't know too much about what DO 's can do. I am pretty sure that I want to do orthopedic or reconstructive surgery eventually.
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I will tell you, with no offense intended, that your naivety in this regard is troubling. You're looking to enter a field that is very much interdisciplinary -- now more than ever -- and with the recent changes and mergers the difference between MD and DO is essentially all but removed. What will you answer when asked "why not RN/PA/DO?"

I would suggest doing your homework.
 
Monophasic said:
I will tell you, with no offense intended, that your naivety in this regard is troubling. You're looking to enter a field that is very much interdisciplinary -- now more than ever -- and with the recent changes and mergers the difference between MD and DO is essentially all but removed. What will you answer when asked "why not RN/PA/DO?"

I would suggest doing your homework.
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Thanks for your suggestion that I do my homework. I have, and I would like to go to MD school.
 
Monophasic said:
I will tell you, with no offense intended, that your naivety in this regard is troubling. You're looking to enter a field that is very much interdisciplinary -- now more than ever -- and with the recent changes and mergers the difference between MD and DO is essentially all but removed. What will you answer when asked "why not RN/PA/DO?"

I would suggest doing your homework.
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I would say that the method of applying to DOs only after one failed MD cycle is pretty standard and not weird at all. If she still doesn't want to consider DO after 3 failed cycles (or if MD is basically impossible to obtain) then I would be troubled.
 
JessebenBenjamin said:
I would say that the method of applying to DOs only after one failed MD cycle is pretty standard and not weird at all. If she still doesn't want to consider DO after 3 failed cycles (or if MD is basically impossible to obtain) then I would be troubled.
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Agreed. I've applied mainly MD with a select few DO schools that are sadly in areas of interest for many applicants -- I'm interested in the locations for their job market/family proximity for my SO. I would have applied to more MD/DO schools (particularly ones less flooded with applicants), but there's a near guarantee my SO would either be long distance, unemployed, or unhappily away from their family while I'm cooped up in the library. So I'm giving it a cycle to see what happens at the optimal places, then considering options if this doesn't work out. Just as long as I don't have to retake my MCAT...
 
Monophasic said:
I will tell you, with no offense intended, that your naivety in this regard is troubling. You're looking to enter a field that is very much interdisciplinary -- now more than ever -- and with the recent changes and mergers the difference between MD and DO is essentially all but removed. What will you answer when asked "why not RN/PA/DO?"

I would suggest doing your homework.
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That is far from the truth. Search for recent threads on MD vs DO to hear the harsh truth from attendings and residents. The girl wants the MD and it's completely understandable/fine if she's willing to work hard and apply as many times as it takes.
 
Dr.Smexy said:
That is far from the truth. Search for recent threads on MD vs DO to hear the harsh truth from attendings and residents. The girl wants the MD and it's completely understandable/fine if she's willing to work hard and apply as many times as it takes.
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There comes a point of diminishing returns for applying as many times as it takes. Usually after 1-2 cycles it makes sense to apply DO as well, just because if you can't get into an MD school after 2 tries then the third try will be even tougher. At the end of the day, it comes down to whether or not you want to be a doctor and practice medicine(which both DOs and MDs can do haha). Plus going MD doesn't mean you're going to waltz right into peds surgery or derm. Gotta work at it regardless.
 
Okazaki Frag Grenade said:
Were you recently complete? sorry, I didn't try to read through older posts
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No worries at all haha. I was complete from mid august (When MCAT score came out) to late September. A handful or less in October/November (UCSF gave me secondary late, etc).
 
cyang said:
No worries at all haha. I was complete from mid august (When MCAT score came out) to late September. A handful or less in October/November (UCSF gave me secondary late, etc).
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Gotcha. Yeah you may just still be in the queue to be reviewed at those 20 silent schools, since you probably submitted alongside tons of other people. I wouldn't lose hope yet (of course easier said than done, I know!)

A few adcoms on here were saying that we should expect a minimum of 6-8 weeks to be reviewed because most schools seem to be getting deluges of applications, even more so than normal.
 
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How long has everyone been waiting?
 
cyang said:
No worries at all haha. I was complete from mid august (When MCAT score came out) to late September. A handful or less in October/November (UCSF gave me secondary late, etc).
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I'm 515/3.85, complete end of August to beginning of September. So very similar to you. I haven't heard anything back yet either, but I'm hoping schools are just kind of sluggish this year and we'll hear soon!
 
reticence said:
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How long has everyone been waiting?
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I'm a borderline applicant (NY resident, 3.5 GPA, 513 MCAT, BS/MS engineering) and at >12 weeks of silence from most schools. Einstein took 2 months to 'complete' my app, so I've only been complete there for ~3 weeks...

To make myself sane, I'm going to say that each school is taking ~2 months to complete due to the large number of applicants (whether they tell me or not), and will likely make it to my app by the 3-5 month mark. So hopefully November - January. Which is semi-depressing.
 
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Dr.Smexy said:
That is far from the truth. Search for recent threads on MD vs DO to hear the harsh truth from attendings and residents. The girl wants the MD and it's completely understandable/fine if she's willing to work hard and apply as many times as it takes.
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Thank you , glad you understand. I'm 22 years old and this is my first time applying to MD schools. So I have time to reevaluate what went wrong with this cycle and try to fix it for the next cycle ( maybe I need an SMP or post bac program, maybe I need to take the MCat again, etc). Of course if I am not successful this round ( which I pray is not the case) , I will apply to MD and DO schools next round. I don't know why anyone would find fault with that.
 
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JessebenBenjamin said:
I would say that the method of applying to DOs only after one failed MD cycle is pretty standard and not weird at all. If she still doesn't want to consider DO after 3 failed cycles (or if MD is basically impossible to obtain) then I would be troubled.
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Thank you
 
Monophasic said:
I will tell you, with no offense intended, that your naivety in this regard is troubling. You're looking to enter a field that is very much interdisciplinary -- now more than ever -- and with the recent changes and mergers the difference between MD and DO is essentially all but removed. What will you answer when asked "why not RN/PA/DO?"
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To call someone naive when you reply with something incorrect is... well, pot calling the kettle black and all that.

There is very much a difference between DO and MD. Almost all DO schools don't have institution owned/affiliated teaching hospitals. This is one of the reasons DO schools can be much more expensive, because they have to pay external hospitals larger sums of money for rotations. As such, DO doesn't lend itself to academic and research medicine the way MD does, due to the lack of teaching hospitals and labs, and subsequent dearth in funding.

Another difference is that the DO degree isn't recognized globally the way MD is, specifically in a handful of South American countries, most of Africa, eastern Europe and parts of Asia:
http://www.osteopathic.org/inside-a.../Pages/international-practice-rights-map.aspx

There is definitely a struggle for DOs to place into some top residencies. The merger is a questionable fix to this, but it calls some concerns that it may actually make it harder for DOs to place in top DO specialities that will now be available for MDs. Regardless, the system won't die right away and it will be hard for a long time for a DO to place in some top speciality.

Last, and this isn't truly important, but some people care about going to institutions that have tradition and have been around for hundreds of years. Just something to consider.

Anyway, I'm not knocking DO. I think it is a fine choice. I applied DO too and if it was the only degree program I got into I would be very happy to attend. But saying there is no difference is... well, naive.

So, to quote yourself:

Monophasic said:
I would suggest doing your homework.
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Monophasic said:
What is the rationale behind not applying to DO schools?
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Many have said that they want the MD, which is completely understandable. Personally, I am not going to apply to DO schools because I feel that it is late in the cycle already and in the event that I have to reapply next year, I don't want to be a reapplicant at both MD and DO schools.
 
piii said:
To call someone naive when you reply with something incorrect is... well, pot calling the kettle black and all that.

There is very much a difference between DO and MD. Almost all DO schools don't have institution owned/affiliated teaching hospitals. This is one of the reasons DO schools can be much more expensive, because they have to pay external hospitals larger sums of money for rotations. As such, DO doesn't lend itself to academic and research medicine the way MD does, due to the lack of teaching hospitals and labs, and subsequent dearth in funding.

Another difference is that the DO degree isn't recognized globally the way MD is, specifically in a handful of South American countries, most of Africa, eastern Europe and parts of Asia:
http://www.osteopathic.org/inside-a.../Pages/international-practice-rights-map.aspx

There is definitely a struggle for DOs to place into some top residencies. The merger is a questionable fix to this, but it calls some concerns that it may actually make it harder for DOs to place in top DO specialities that will now be available for MDs. Regardless, the system won't die right away and it will be hard for a long time for a DO to place in some top speciality.

Last, and this isn't truly important, but some people care about going to institutions that have tradition and have been around for hundreds of years. Just something to consider.

Anyway, I'm not knocking DO. I think it is a fine choice. I applied DO too and if it was the only degree program I got into I would be very happy to attend. But saying there is no difference is... well, naive.

So, to quote yourself:
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^This.

Unfortunately going DO limits your career choices in medicine pretty severely.

This is why I find it extremely irritating when people are like "But you have a DO acceptance! Why are you worried about your MD cycle?!"

/facepalm
 
Quick question for anyone that has already done the research. Are there any schools that are still "giving out plenty of invites" this late in the process (Based on previous years threads).I know that some schools may still have a few more to give out but are there any schools that may be only halfway finished with invites. I know that no one knows for sure, but just wondering. Wishful thinking.
 
Citygirl44 said:
Quick question for anyone that has already done the research. Are there any schools that are still "giving out plenty of invites" this late in the process (Based on previous years threads).I know that some schools may still have a few more to give out but are there any schools that may be only halfway finished with invites. I know that no one knows for sure, but just wondering. Wishful thinking.
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Depends on the school.
 
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