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And now she has you trained ;)

Dog's like "OMG people are dumb. It took her this long to realize the bell means food."

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I'm about to murder my dog. Ivy's new thing is ringing the bell (the one that's supposed to mean "I have to go out") nonstop whenever she decides it's dinner time. And of course she's starting an hour early today. I'm trying to be strong. Trying....
Ivy's a smart dawg!

Hey, you can teach your dog how to play WW - then she can play WW games instead of playing the "dinner bell" game.
 
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I'm about to murder my dog. Ivy's new thing is ringing the bell (the one that's supposed to mean "I have to go out") nonstop whenever she decides it's dinner time. And of course she's starting an hour early today. I'm trying to be strong. Trying....
Dog's like "OMG people are dumb. It took her this long to realize the bell means food."
There's a Reverse Pavlov joke in here somewhere
 
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I just realized I'm out of contacts :arghh: Makes me even more annoyed that I wasn't a candidate for Lasik. Stupid oversized pupils...
 
I'm about to murder my dog. Ivy's new thing is ringing the bell (the one that's supposed to mean "I have to go out") nonstop whenever she decides it's dinner time. And of course she's starting an hour early today. I'm trying to be strong. Trying....
I think Pavlov is rolling in his grave rn

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Should we take bets on when you destroy that bell? lol
As annoying as the bell can be, it's better than her first choice method of asking to go out. Which is spinning 900 miles an hour while high-pitched barking at the top of her lungs and intermittently taking bites out of the houseplants next to the door. She's bad.
 
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As annoying as the bell can be, it's better than her first choice method of asking to go out. Which is spinning 900 miles an hour while high-pitched barking at the top of her lungs and intermittently taking bites out of the houseplants next to the door. She's bad.
Your dog makes me feel better about how insane mine is.
 
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Ugh I'm having naughty dog struggles today too. I'm staying in random provided housing for my current rotation and my dog, who normally LOVES her crate and is an angel in it is being HORRIBLE. Last week she chewed a hole in it, something she has never even attempted in the past. Today I come home to find her having broken out all together with obviously bent bars on the door (she pulled it in to get out) and blatant chew marks on the openings on the side as well. I've been giving her trazadone which we had left over from a recent surgery that she needed to be calm after, but they apparently do nothing for her. All other routine things are completely normal except being in this strange house for 5 more days >_<

Tomorrow I plan to move the crate out of my bedroom and into an area where she will be able to see the other house dog in it's crate AND get up at the crack of dawn and wear her out at the dog park before I leave for the day. I am literally just petrified that she will hurt her mouth chewing on her crate or get stuck half in and half out and injure herself that way. Any advice is welcome.

Oh and the NAVLE is in 2 weeks so yay, stress.
 
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Your dog makes me feel better about how insane mine is.
She is definitely cray cray. But in her defense, she's an awesome performance/sport dog. The psychoness carries over nicely for things where she has a "job"...like agility, herding, dock diving and lure coursing. If only I could quit my job and be a stay at home dog trainer and still have money for all these shows and trials :-D
 
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It is partially true depending on region. Out here, I've basically got the upper hand when it comes to job picking. Clinics are desperate. I had a decent pick when I changed jobs. I had a decent pick when I first graduated. We'll see how the first midwestern graduating class changes that but at least out here.... it is definitely a booming market with lots of availability.

But the high six figures is laughable. I'm hitting low six figures. Will never get to high 6 figures.
 
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It is partially true depending on region. Out here, I've basically got the upper hand when it comes to job picking. Clinics are desperate. I had a decent pick when I changed jobs. I had a decent pick when I first graduated. We'll see how the first midwestern graduating class changes that but at least out here.... it is definitely a booming market with lots of availability.

But the high six figures is laughable. I'm hitting low six figures. Will never get to high 6 figures.

Yeah. I wondered where they got that "high 6 figures" from. I mean, even typical specialists aren't (to my knowledge) making HIGH 6 figures. (I guess I would consider that to be $600k+?)

There's just enough truth to the 'demand' thing to make it tantalizing - because there is demand for vets. Our partner here has been looking for an Oncologist for months, a Surgeon for months, and they finally just filled a CritCare position by snagging someone finishing her residency. There are definitely positions out there. Even in GP there are plenty of positions.

The issue is finding a job that pays well enough to make a living and pay debt.

The classic "supply and demand" thing doesn't seem to work as well for this picture because there's just only so much a client will pay, and the cost to 'make' a veterinarian is pushing beyond what clients will pay. That's why there is such a "shortage" of large-animal vets - nobody can pay to become one and then live off of what is being offered in most rural areas.

The industry is really broken.....
 
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It is partially true depending on region. Out here, I've basically got the upper hand when it comes to job picking. Clinics are desperate. I had a decent pick when I changed jobs. I had a decent pick when I first graduated. We'll see how the first midwestern graduating class changes that but at least out here.... it is definitely a booming market with lots of availability.

But the high six figures is laughable. I'm hitting low six figures. Will never get to high 6 figures.
And that's the thing: it's regional. I was lucky to snag a job in the city this year because a few clinics had docs retiring. Because everyone wants to live in the city where you have no on-call and people have a little more money to spend on vet care. At the clinic I came from, they aren't even getting applicants to fill my spot. My ex's clinic is still trying to fill his spot. So the jobs available are in lousy locations, or crap clinics working for terrible bosses (one clinic has been looking for about 4 years because the owner is a douchebag and everyone knows it). We don't have a shortage, we have a distribution and pay issue.
 
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We don't have a shortage, we have a distribution and pay issue.

Exactly. For the most part, if you want to live in Phoenix and the surrounding area, you can find a job. And likely a decent one. But many people don't want to live in 100+ degrees in the desert. So it is a distribution issue. We can't find vets in the main city/urban regions for small animal, the rural areas are worse.... no one wants to work in butt**** nowhere desert land in 120+ degrees with cattle.
 
Yeah. I wondered where they got that "high 6 figures" from. I mean, even typical specialists aren't (to my knowledge) making HIGH 6 figures. (I guess I would consider that to be $600k+?)

There's just enough truth to the 'demand' thing to make it tantalizing - because there is demand for vets. Our partner here has been looking for an Oncologist for months, a Surgeon for months, and they finally just filled a CritCare position by snagging someone finishing her residency. There are definitely positions out there. Even in GP there are plenty of positions.

The issue is finding a job that pays well enough to make a living and pay debt.

The classic "supply and demand" thing doesn't seem to work as well for this picture because there's just only so much a client will pay, and the cost to 'make' a veterinarian is pushing beyond what clients will pay. That's why there is such a "shortage" of large-animal vets - nobody can pay to become one and then live off of what is being offered in most rural areas.

The industry is really broken.....

I'd even let $500k plus be high 6 figures but I don't think even human docs get up that high.

This industry really is broken. Quite sad. I see it either crumbling or turning towards what human med is like with insurance, otherwise people are going to stop being able to being their pets to the vet. Simply because vets can't afford to be paid less than x amount and pet owners are hitting the brink of being able to afford the care necessary for vets to be paid that amount.
 
I wondered where they got that "high 6 figures" from.

When I read the story I assumed they meant top earners were in the high 100's, which would be accurate... Now that it's been pointed out though, it's definitely poorly written.
 
*Starts planning move to Arizona after graduation.*

You really don't want to live here. Unless you like snowbirds, idiot drivers and bad traffic. Place is too congested with people. And I know that Arizona isn't the only place where you can find that kind of salary, just don't know how easy it is to find jobs in other locations.

But if you ever really are considering AZ, PM me so I can help you avoid burn out clinics. :)
 
You really don't want to live here. Unless you like snowbirds, idiot drivers and bad traffic. Place is too congested with people. And I know that Arizona isn't the only place where you can find that kind of salary, just don't know how easy it is to find jobs in other locations.

But if you ever really are considering AZ, PM me so I can help you avoid burn out clinics. :)
I’m a fan of the weather out there, but it wasn’t raining, which I understand can be pretty bad. If I ever seriously consider moving there, you will be the first person I contact! :)
 
two words about Phoenix: Monsoon Season. YUCK!!!!

Think of any state and there are weather issues. Hurricanes in the east, snow just about everywhere else, earthquakes in CA and tornadoes in the Midwest.

AZ monsoon season is rather mild in comparison to other things. And really many years, it is laughable.
 
And that's the thing: it's regional. I was lucky to snag a job in the city this year because a few clinics had docs retiring. Because everyone wants to live in the city where you have no on-call and people have a little more money to spend on vet care. At the clinic I came from, they aren't even getting applicants to fill my spot. My ex's clinic is still trying to fill his spot. So the jobs available are in lousy locations, or crap clinics working for terrible bosses (one clinic has been looking for about 4 years because the owner is a douchebag and everyone knows it). We don't have a shortage, we have a distribution and pay issue.

Yep, my clinic has two doc positions to fill and have had one applicant (who has accepted elsewhere already) in the three months they've been looking. Apparently where I'm headed, they'd been looking for a while too and they're a step up from where I am now.
 
Think of any state and there are weather issues. Hurricanes in the east, snow just about everywhere else, earthquakes in CA and tornadoes in the Midwest.

AZ monsoon season is rather mild in comparison to other things. And really many years, it is laughable.
Yeah I'd rather have the monsoons than hurricanes and tornados and whatnot. Yes it sucks being rained on and the dust storms are a pain in the arse, but I can also lock myself safely in my house and not worry about the dust or the rain destroying it. :p
 
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Yeah I'd rather have the monsoons than hurricanes and tornados and whatnot. Yes it sucks being rained on and the dust storms are a pain in the arse, but I can also lock myself safely in my house and not worry about the dust or the rain destroying it. :p

And for the most part, the storms last maybe a few hours in the afternoon/evening then disappear the next day. Sometimes they barely last for 30 minutes.
 
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And for the most part, the storms last maybe a few hours in the afternoon/evening then disappear the next day. Sometimes they barely last for 30 minutes.
The rain is always fun if it's raining when you go into the store and then when you come out it's sunshine-y and bright. Less fun vice versa. But you learn pretty quickly how to predict when it's going to rain and how to get the heck out of anywhere it can rain on you. :p Also fyi if you wash your car, it's going to monsoon the next day.

I did like the longer monsoons on campus, because I got to watch the undergrads run around in the horrid rain in their short shorts and flip-flops.
 
The rain is always fun if it's raining when you go into the store and then when you come out it's sunshine-y and bright. Less fun vice versa. But you learn pretty quickly how to predict when it's going to rain and how to get the heck out of anywhere it can rain on you. :p Also fyi if you wash your car, it's going to monsoon the next day.

I did like the longer monsoons on campus, because I got to watch the undergrads run around in the horrid rain in their short shorts and flip-flops.

What's wrong with flip flops in the rain? You definitely aren't a native. ;)
 
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Spent 5 years in Phoenix. Was sick as a dog for 18 months there (ok, so morning sickness x 2 babies--and yes, I had morning sickness the entire time). The fall, spring and winter were nice. Summer (and the advent of monsoon) sucked--if I had to go out in the daytime. Nights weren't bad, tho.
 
Aaaaaaand my dog destroyed her crate while I was out today. I'm at a complete loss. She loves her crate and goes in there freely at any time, hangs out in there, and even when she knows I'm leaving will happily run right in there. But apparently has decided she can't handle it. I'm a bit suspicious that she begins freaking out hearing my temporary roomie(for this rotation only)'s dog freak out in the crate barking and crying and then freaks out. Luckily there is another crate in this house because hers is now unusable. I'm at a loss.

Anyone else have experience with a previously crate trained dog suddenly deciding they can't handle being left there? If this behavior continues when we get home I do not know what I will do :(
 
I've seen exactly one scorpion in the 25+ years I have lived here. Have seen many more black widows.

Oh man, we saw them a lot at my aunt's house. Black widows I don't mind. They are in typical places that I can avoid disturbing. But scorpions like shoes and pants and bedroom walls when I was there. haha
 
Aaaaaaand my dog destroyed her crate while I was out today. I'm at a complete loss. She loves her crate and goes in there freely at any time, hangs out in there, and even when she knows I'm leaving will happily run right in there. But apparently has decided she can't handle it. I'm a bit suspicious that she begins freaking out hearing my temporary roomie(for this rotation only)'s dog freak out in the crate barking and crying and then freaks out. Luckily there is another crate in this house because hers is now unusable. I'm at a loss.

Anyone else have experience with a previously crate trained dog suddenly deciding they can't handle being left there? If this behavior continues when we get home I do not know what I will do :(
Have you considered video recording her while you're gone to see what exactly triggers it? Sorry you're having to deal with that :(
 
I was not a fan of the scorpions. I am not a scaredy cat or anything, but they are one that I have a definite dislike for. haha
Between living in Phoenix and living in west Texas, I picked up a habit of shaking my shoes out before I put them on that has earned me occasional judgmental looks from others.
 
Oh man, we saw them a lot at my aunt's house. Black widows I don't mind. They are in typical places that I can avoid disturbing. But scorpions like shoes and pants and bedroom walls when I was there. haha

Black widows love shoes. Always shake your shoes out before putting them on. Probably why I prefer flip flops, hard for creepy crawlies to hide in.
 
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Black widows love shoes. Always shake your shoes out before putting them on. Probably why I prefer flip flops, hard for creepy crawlies to hide in.

I have skin that likes to fall off, so flip flops are a no go for me. Not to mention I saw a lady eat it when she caught her foam toe on the top stair coming down a set and lost her front teeth after windmilling a good 12 feet before going timber. lol
 
Aaaaaaand my dog destroyed her crate while I was out today. I'm at a complete loss. She loves her crate and goes in there freely at any time, hangs out in there, and even when she knows I'm leaving will happily run right in there. But apparently has decided she can't handle it. I'm a bit suspicious that she begins freaking out hearing my temporary roomie(for this rotation only)'s dog freak out in the crate barking and crying and then freaks out. Luckily there is another crate in this house because hers is now unusable. I'm at a loss.

Anyone else have experience with a previously crate trained dog suddenly deciding they can't handle being left there? If this behavior continues when we get home I do not know what I will do :(
Our dog was completely crate trained, slept in it at night, loved the damn thing. Then one day just started freaking out inside it. Broke out so bad we had to close it with carabineers. Then she figured out that she could some how move it across the hard wood floors (we were renters) and scrape the sh** out of them. We moved her to the bedroom, thought it might be that the cats were harassing her or something. She proceeded to move it up to the bed every day and several days later shredded our down comforter through the bars of the crate. After that I said **** it, and started trialing her out of the kennel for short periods. She never went back to being crated, and now is a perfectly good dog while we are gone... With a big caveat, we have all bedroom doors closed so she has no access to beds or bedding, all trash cans are inaccessible, and we keep the house clean, nothing on floors or counters she could eat/destroy. Any time we screw up these things she will destroy it. Good luck...

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I have skin that likes to fall off, so flip flops are a no go for me. Not to mention I saw a lady eat it when she caught her foam toe on the top stair coming down a set and lost her front teeth after windmilling a good 12 feet before going timber. lol

She was probably an amateur flip flop wearer. ;)


I think I've actually hurt myself more times in closed toed shoes than flip flops. I'm super flat footed though so the flat flip flops just blend right in.
 
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I'm in PNW and shake out my shoes anytime they have been in the garage/basement/not directly on my front door shoe rack.

Black widows are pretty common, but I've never found one inside the house. I'm pretty sure I've found a recluse inside though.

Boss man accidentally found out my aversion to spiders after I picked up a cup with a wolf spider in it. Now every time a large spider is found he arranges for it to end up in my near vicinity. Bleh.
 
She was probably an amateur flip flop wearer. ;)


I think I've actually hurt myself more times in closed toed shoes than flip flops. I'm super flat footed though so the flat flip flops just blend right in.

I believe part of the problem was she was coming from the bar and they were platform flops. aaahahahahaaa
 
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I'm in PNW and shake out my shoes anytime they have been in the garage/basement/not directly on my front door shoe rack.

Black widows are pretty common, but I've never found one inside the house. I'm pretty sure I've found a recluse inside though.

Boss man accidentally found out my aversion to spiders after I picked up a cup with a wolf spider in it. Now every time a large spider is found he arranges for it to end up in my near vicinity. Bleh.

I'd quit my job.
 
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