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Jatpat is like Prince Humperdinck from Princess bride who like in the movie is trying to make this thread his own.
Jatpat is like Prince Humperdinck from Princess bride who like in the movie is trying to make this thread his own.
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On another note, I have yet to be accepted, rejected or waitlisted...Hopefully tomorrow they tell me something, even it's bad news. I'm 90% sure I didn't get in, considering all the acceptances have been sent out...Maybe they're waiting to see who accepts the offer before they reject people? Anyone else in a similar position? I'd love to go, but I'd also like to know what my status is.
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On another note, I have yet to be accepted, rejected or waitlisted...Hopefully tomorrow they tell me something, even it's bad news. I'm 90% sure I didn't get in, considering all the acceptances have been sent out...Maybe they're waiting to see who accepts the offer before they reject people? Anyone else in a similar position? I'd love to go, but I'd also like to know what my status is.
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On another note, I have yet to be accepted, rejected or waitlisted...Hopefully tomorrow they tell me something, even it's bad news. I'm 90% sure I didn't get in, considering all the acceptances have been sent out...Maybe they're waiting to see who accepts the offer before they reject people? Anyone else in a similar position? I'd love to go, but I'd also like to know what my status is.
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On another note, I have yet to be accepted, rejected or waitlisted...Hopefully tomorrow they tell me something, even it's bad news. I'm 90% sure I didn't get in, considering all the acceptances have been sent out...Maybe they're waiting to see who accepts the offer before they reject people? Anyone else in a similar position? I'd love to go, but I'd also like to know what my status is.
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On another note, I have yet to be accepted, rejected or waitlisted...Hopefully tomorrow they tell me something, even it's bad news. I'm 90% sure I didn't get in, considering all the acceptances have been sent out...Maybe they're waiting to see who accepts the offer before they reject people? Anyone else in a similar position? I'd love to go, but I'd also like to know what my status is.
To BMS grads, are there any +'s or -'s at the end of letter grades received at RF?
I was posting from my phone, I thought it didn't go through the first time so I refreshed a few times, one too many times I guess.Quintuple post! We're calling Gordon today my friend.
Jatpat and I are friends. I don't randomly call people evil. Also I am NOT suing the school. I am 55,000 dollars in debt plus undergrad loans. I don't have the money to live in my own apartment let alone pay for lawyer fees. I was mostly venting frustration. Most of what I said was overblown.
I guess I just wanted to let people know that there are people such as myself that have been screwed over despite having decent grades. And, the program is not rosy like some of the former BMSers have painted out to be. Its hardwork, especially this year it will be competitive as hell because a lot of high caliber students that would otherwise be going to Boston, Tufts or Gtown are coming here. Also msk86 had a 37 on his MCATs, so he obviously is a smart kid, so take his advice with a grain of salt.
Peace
John
I guess I just wanted to let people know that there are people such as myself that have been screwed over despite having decent grades. And, the program is not rosy like some of the former BMSers have painted out to be. Its hardwork, especially this year it will be competitive as hell because a lot of high caliber students that would otherwise be going to Boston, Tufts or Gtown are coming here. Also msk86 had a 37 on his MCATs, so he obviously is a smart kid, so take his advice with a grain of salt.
While I do think most of what John said is exaggerated, there is some truth to what he said. I had the choice of going between CCOM and CMS, I chose CCOM instead.
The location is pretty ghetto. While the south of north chicago is an extremely posh area called Lake Bluff, the north of north chicago, including north chicago itself is like the south side of chicago, extremely rough.
CMS has been in ethics trouble quite a few times. One of things is their trouble with LCME. I do believe John is right about them losing their accredition in 2004, after which they were put on probation for a year. The also got rid of their name, which Finch Univesity of Medicine and Sciences. They changed it to Rosalind Franklin afterwards. They have also been sued quite a few times for such things as sexual harrasement, and animal cruelty.
I don't know anything about the Biomed program, so I won't comment on that.
In conclusion, I chose CCOM because it does not have a troubled past unlike RFUMS and I didn't want to be associated with a school with so many ethics violations.
Does anyone know if there's a list of textbooks we need?
But whoever applies should realize that Rosalind Franklin is one of the most expensive med schools there is. This means that you can't just work hard and hope it pays off. Fifty five thousand dollars is a lot to just hope things work out.
i can also comment on this program going there the 2005-2006 academic year when they still had the linkage. the dirty truth of the program is that you do not have ANY of the perks of the med students. i ran into this problem when i was hospitalized due to severe dehydration from a really nasty stomach bug the day of the biochem midterm. unlike the med students i was in class with, i DID NOT have the option to take my exam again or reschedule it despite having a valid medical excuse. basically i missed the b in biochem by one question on the final which was now an inordinate amount of my grade.
i was screwed. i could not get in anywhere because now i had two strikes against me. i had a low gpa and a subpar performance in this program. i was told by numerous adcoms that my chances were basically nil. somehow, someway i was fortunate enough to get into another masters program here in the area and i am kicking its butt. unlike rfu, this one actually takes into account personal situations and lets you rearrange things if you have difficulties.
i will say this much...watch out for sakin's questions they are horrid...absolutely horrid.
Hey guys:
I just want to make an annoucement to all the future BMS students. If you guys are interested in getting a head start in the BMS Program, I have all the notes/handouts from last year in pdf format for all the medical school classes.
I also have various books in pdf and compiled html format that I managed to pirate from various sources. Basically everything you will need to memorize to succeed in the program, something that apparently alluded me. The books that I have are: BRS physiology, BRS Embryology, Vander's Renal physiology, West's respiratory physiology, the textbooks for MCB, neuroscience, Biochem, and phys etc. I also have various other reference books that will be able to clarify concepts in cardiovascular phys such as Guyton's. These are all expensive books, which you will be able to get for one low price.
You can have all of this for a low price of $100. PM me if anybody is interested and I can give you further instructions on how to download them from me and pay me.
I gotta figure out a way to pay for those loans I took out
Ban in 3...2...1...
Are John's actions illegal?
Okay I won't sell the pirated books , I am selling the RFUMS material with my annoted notes. The pirated books come for free. By the way people are already starting to PM me for this material, so you better get yours in today, might as well start studying your butt off today, then twiddle your thumb for a month and then have panic attacks for the sheer amount of material that will thrown your way after orientation.
Distributing pirated material, for profit or not, is both illegal and prohibited by the SDN TOS.
mommy2three,
Do you mind sharing either in this thread or via PM what grades you received in the BMS program (each class and an overall GPA) plus an MCAT score?
Thanks.
On a personal note: MSK86, you are really annoying the **** out of me. If i knew who you were I would personally fly over to beat the living crap out of you
You talk about having debts of 55,000 dollars and your attempt to work on paying them off by selling all those books for $100. Who do you think is going to believe that that is the reason you are selling your books?
For those that are interested in buying his books. I wouldn't buy all of them, but some are good. I use the First Aid all the time along with a majority of my school. Guyton's physiology is probably too much detail, but it is great if you don't understand something in particular. I just used the pdf. For physio, I would recommed either the BRS Physio or Costanzo's Physiology. Costanzo is the author for both, one is just more detailed than the other. The Lippincott Biochemistry is probably the book most worth buying though. The First Aid is good, but I'd rather have a new one. With a new one, you can take your own notes in it and use it as a comprehensive study tool when it comes to studying for a final or the Step.
I also have various books in pdf and compiled html format that I managed to pirate from various sources.
john Ragster's former BMS classmate said:Hey, I just wanted to message you personally to address this ******* that's been posting today. I asked around and found out who he is. Let me tell you something: he was one of the most unprofessional pricks I've ever seen. I never actually spoke to him because he was so obnoxious I knew it wasn't worth my breath. This kid was CONSTANTLY talking in class, mocking the teachers, talking about how he smokes up when he gets home, etc.
Even if you have all the scores in the world, they do tell you one thing that this idiot didn't pay attention to. On the first day, they tell us that PROFESSIONALISM MATTERS. Every day you interact with professors and everybody talks. Therefore, every day you're at school is like an interview. If you act like an idiot, you will be treated like one, and that's exactly what this guy deserved.
Thanks, mommy2three.
From the looks of it, you must have barely missed the suspected 3.0 GPA (medical school classess only) cut-off for automatic admission into CMS from the AP program.
It was unfortunate that they weren't more forgiving considering your situation. Glad to hear that you're doing much better in your new SMP though. Thanks again and good luck.
I don't know if 28 is "high" for BMSers, but it certainly isn't going to hurt you. There were plenty of people with really low mcats. I'm pretty sure the cutoff is 25 to get into the program, but other than that it can only help you. I had a 37 going in and Dean Ross (you'll get to know him next year...really cool guy) said the 37 would help me, but if you're in the BMS program they really couldn't care less about your mcat or GPA unless it helps your case. It's really about physio, MCB, biochem, and neuro. If you do well in all those classes, you're golden. It doesn't matter if you get accepted with a 2.5 undergrad gpa. If you rock those classes, you'll be fine.
I can't remember my mcat exactly...took it sophomore year of college....but I think it was 12V 13B 12P.
I didn't apply to any other schools this time around. The only thing wrong with my application was really the mcat, so I didn't want to reapply to other schools without improving my score. Realistically I could've gotten into probably 1 or 2 more schools, but I was content with CMS.
The online material is SUPER easy. You basically post 3 days a week and respond to 1-2 questions. At the end of each class you have a paper or a project that doesn't really require that much effort. So, basically, while the clinical research people are busting their butts at their non-medical classes and actually having to attend class, the HCAM people have more free time to spend on the classes that matter.
I want to let you guys know that I am gonna stop posting/defending my posts.
I'll just make one last post and that'll be the end of it.
Maybe you're right. Maybe RFUMS is an evil institution out to scam premeds. We'll see if your anti-RFUMS army gains any new recruits after the 2010 BMS Program. For now, I think it's safe to say that you're just butthurt that you didn't get into CMS.I'm just letting people know how much of an evil institution Rosalind Franklin University of Medicine and Science is. It seems that there is mass cognitive dissonace on this thread with failed premeds appearing to think that they will be salvaged by this program when in fact they will go down in dirt with a 55,000 dollar debt like have.
As if $100 x (less than 10) will really make a big dent into the $55,000 you now owe.The fact that I was selling my stuff does not mean that I was endorsing the program, it only means that I was trying to make a buck to pay down my debt.