So w the cult, should we not worry about them too much unless they’re killing us?
I said what happened to me before summary was put out
So the cults are still a threat to us winning. If they're still converting people they stand a good chance of winning. I'm just saying contrary to cult members we only win if we yeet all the wolves. Wolves only win if they get parity with us. If there are more cult members than wolves then they can't win. So at this moment I *think* it is a bigger threat to them.
It looks like for M935's kill, she was converted before she was killed. So order of events for her kill (she had 3 visitors):
mayo, I know you unyeeted Alleycat, but why were you so determined to vote her out? Just curious
I also agree with this. We are not 100% sure that a second cult leader exists, and neither do the wolves. There is a chance that the cult is still growing, but there is also a chance that the cult is now finished (we're just not sure). If we as villagers run around in circles trying to identify both the cult and the wolves, this may end up hurting us more than if we focused on a single enemy that we know exist and will hurt us each night.
I agree that we need to focus on wolves because that's how we win. But, the cult does pose some threat because I think if they convert villagers they don't count as village anymore for parity meaning the wolves can win faster? Like, just for numbers, if there's 3 wolves, and 5 villagers, and 1 cult, and the wolves killed 1 vilager and the cult converts 1 villager, then there's 3 wolves, 3 village, and 2 cult so then the wolves would win unless cult counts to help village?
This is true, and also this is more math than my last 3 years of undergrad combined (jk) so had to really think there for a second
Haha, same. I took my last math class... oh man like 6 years ago? Unless you count stats which I suppose was technically math, in which case it's been 4 years since I took a math class so not much better.
I'm also wondering that because Mayo has been hitting the eject alleycat button for a while now??
That's fair, but if cult is only one person it isn't much of a concern. If there's only one cult they can't turn people and they're not a concern at all for either of us. My concern that cult is >4 if there is another cult leader. If that is the case then the wolves can't win.
Are you able to safely elaborate? Because the only people I trust are kras and samac (assuming they haven’t been converted to cultists but I’m not getting that vibe). And you wanted to yeet alleycat still this morning so I’m assuming you didn’t get a night message like others have claimed before? What changed?
I'm so curious!
you know.
rereading things now and it clicked
To be honest I was mainly sus of TE yesterday because I felt like a TE was trying to do the same with Visc the other day. I moved away from TE because no one else seemed confident and voted with the group, which has been a mistake everytime I've done it.
I am really not sure who to trust between you and kras in all honest
Did I miss something or is this some insider mason thing that I can't understand from the outside??
Can you elaborate? Why do you need to choose between them, I was under the impression the masons are a package deal?
I can’t safely elaborate:/
Also the last time I wanted to yeet alleycat was yesterday, also because of events last night (the same kind) I’m still a bit weary but I think the enigma vote is more important
Oh hahaha I’m illiterate and this is embarrassing 😅 sorry I was skimming/speedreading
How so?
It was something in our mason chat that I missed on first pass
Because samac and kras seem to be masons and have a better feel for villagers than i do based on last night. And i need to vote am am very impaired by alcohol at the moment because family is in town
Emphasis on very impaired
No problem, I've made similar mistakes from speed reading
Playing card games and have drank too much.
Literally my manator just question guided me again, asking if there is only one strong candidate to vote out who isn't a hard confirmed wolf, what do you think the wolves are thinking?
My best guess is that the bottom of your post is right. When vis was confirmed wolf the first thing I did was go through and look at ho they interacted w most or defended. They probably know the same thing would happen
Maybe I missed an unyeet but I thought they're both voting the same right now so no need to make a choice between who's lead to follow
Myself, I have no hard evidence for Enigma.
I'm just very worried about jumping on another bandwagon blindly because last night I screwed it up royally. Had my vote been different it likely would have tied and Samac could have swung it the other way. I definitely can't do that again.
I'm thinking if we were going after a villager, the wolves would want to defend that villager and give alternatives to not look too content, and especially if it looks like the bandwagon is going to be voted out so that if they come up villager in the write up then the wolves can claim "but I defended them!" But they could also just be content and not say anything and let us shoot ourselves in the foot. But also if we have a wolf they would be careful how they defend because if they're voted out then we would immediately look at who was the strongest support of the dead wolf.
