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Day 1 Lynch Tally Final
RL-KB (1) - DVMD
SAR () -
MA (6) - PBC, jboo, Cray, Coop, Pippy, Elfabeth
bryndy (1) - SAR
Coops () -
genny (1) - BBC/Ferny
BBC () -
Paws (1) - Skimble
Elfabeth (2) - MOOSE, Nyan
Cray () -
Mel () -
Coffee (4) - Stagg, genny, Glam, MA
PBC (3) - WZ, Paws, Mel
allieh (1) - Coffee
MJ () -
MOOSE (3) - AM, RL-KB, kc
DVMD (1) - dolph

24/27 missing allie, MJ, bryndi

DAY 2 LYNCH TALLY

Elfabeth (1) - Stagg
jboo (6) - Moose, PBC, Skimble, bryndy, Glamm, cray, dolph
Fern/BBC (1) - Elfa
PBC () -
WZ (1) - DVMD
bryndy (2) - nyan, MJ
RL-KB (1) -
Moose (2) - RL-KB, jboo
Coffee () -
AM (1) - SAR
Stagg (1) - BBC
Cray (8) - AM, MA, genny, Pippy, WZ, kc, Paws, Mel

24/26 missing allie, coffee

Day 3 Lynch Tally FINAL:
Stagg (1) - DVMD
WZ (2) - allieh, Pippy
Glamm (1) - WZ
Moose (2) - RL-KB, Jimble
DVMD ()
Bryndy (2) - AM, Stagg
jboo (7) - kcough, dolph, Moose, PBC, MJ, LoTF, Coffee?
SAR (1) - nyan
PBC (6) - Mel, SAR, bryndi, MA, genny, jboo
NY (1) - BBC

23/26 missing paws, cray, glamm

Day 4 Lynch Tally (pre-vig shot)
Bryndy (8) - AM, Cray, Moose, Coffee, SAR, Paws, dolph, Mixy
Paws (1) - Glamm
AM (6) - Stagg, DVMD, Skimble, kcough, Pippy, bryndy
RL-KB (1) - PBC
Stagg (1) - Paws
Nyan () -
PBC (1) - Mel
Moose (1) - RL-KB
MJ (1) - nyan

20/24 missing genny, MJ, Fern, WZ

Final Day 4 Lynch Tally (post-vig shot)
Bryndy (6) - Cray, Moose, Coffee, SAR, AM, genny
Paws (1) - Glamm
AM (5) - Stagg, DVMD, Skimble, kcough, bryndy
RL-KB () -
Stagg () -
Nyan () -
Moose (5) - RL-KB, Pippy, WZ, Paws, Mel
MJ (2) - nyan, LoTF

19/23 missing MJ, Fern, dolphin, Mixy

Party of Day 5 Lynch Tally:
BBC (16) - AM, genny, Paws, WZ, kcough, SAR, MA, Coffee, Pippy, Mel, nyan, bryndy, KB-allie, dolp, Skim, LOTF
Paws ()
kcough () -
Glamm aka bryndy () -
AM () -
Coffee () -
Mel (1) - BBC
WZ () -
Sporty (1) - DVMD

18/20 missing Cray, Stagg

😴 D6 Lynch Tally
am (3) - kcough, Skimble, nyan
ny (1) - pippy
skim (7) - am, dubz, paws, LoTF, allieh, SAR, Coffee?
pippy (1) - dvmd
WZ (1) - dvmd
Cray (2) - Mel, bryndy
bryndy (3) - genny, MA, dolph
Coffee? (1) - Cray

18/19 missing stagg
 
SportPonies said:
End Night 6

Everyone slept in a little bit today, but soon they were back on their way. This morning, parkas were very important because some fool with a controller decided to place everyone on Summit.

stage16_071031e-l.jpg


Some got a little tired waiting for others to finish dressing, so the group trickled out a handful at a time, and no one really noticed if there was anyone missing. Which really, is unfortunate, isn't it?

One of the characters echoed just that sentiment when they got to the stage. "With all the murder going around, you'd think someone would be more careful and check to see if anyone died... gosh."

stage16_071031b-l.jpg


Just as they said that, everything seemed to tilt under the players' feet. Why were they sliding? Silenced and scrambling, everyone soon realized that this would be a long day.

...Good thing some players seem to be inexplicable with their move usage.

No one has died.

Check roster placement, everyone.​


The Roster:
1. @Animal Midwife
2. @Melchizedek
3. @WildZoo
6. @allieh8607/@Karabiner13 hydra
7. @MixedAnimals77
8. @dolphin106258
9. @kcoughli
10. @nyanko
12. @LadyOtheFarm
14. @SARdoghandler
15. @CoffeeQuestionMark
16. @genny
21. @Stagg737
23. @bryndiana.jones
26. @DVMDream
5. @Crayola227
25. @PippyPony
27. @StayingPositive2017

Dead:
24. Coopah - Sheik, Untrackable wolf
20. johnnaboo - Mewtwo, PMer
13. allieh8607 - Wolf, Bodyguard
4. PrincessButterCup - Zelda, ability seer
22. bryndiana.jones - Little Mac, vig
17. Miranda Senft - Kirby, ability copier
18. Mad Jack
11. @TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo - Bowser, Framer wolf
19. @Skimble - Villager, pocket
​

It is now Day 7. Lynch close at 9 PM CST/10 PM EST​
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@Crayola227 not so much a spoiler, it's still me
 
Crayola227 said:
Also, did Allie die and I just don't remember? If she didn't, I want to see more from her. Her tone earlier I found worrisome, but it's hard to tell when Allie is grumpy for seeming wolfy for being sorta quiet as always happens to her, because she's a villager, or because she's a wolf. Believe me, I know, some of those metas that people stick you with will just never die, so I feel for her. I always suspect her for the reason that I can never fully feel like I'm viewing her without emotional bias.
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Allie died but came back as a sub for RedLauren.
 
WildZoo said:
I do think it best if this DVMD lynch goes through, but like...what's with all these no kills?

@CoffeeQuestionMark are you claiming you are continuously protecting yourself? And the wolves keep attacking you?
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I protected genny last night

This has been the pattern

N1 Skimble
N2 moose (moose protected coffee bk)
N3 coffee
N4 Mel
N5 coffee - bk
N6 genny - bk
 
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CoffeeQuestionMark said:
I protected genny last night

This has been the pattern

N1 Skimble
N2 moose (moose protected coffee bk)
N3 coffee
N4 Mel
N5 coffee - bk
N6 genny - bk
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1. What is bk?
2. How have there been that many successful protections?
3. Why in the world weren't you protecting the outed tracker more? Didn't she reveal like, D2 or something?
 
kcoughli said:
1. What is bk?
2. How have there been that many successful protections?
3. Why in the world weren't you protecting the outed tracker more? Didn't she reveal like, D2 or something?
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1. Blocked kill
2. Probably because I hinted I had a PR day 1? 😉
3. Genny outted herself two days ago (I mean I've known since d2 but.) But I figured they'd assume I'd protect her.
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
1. Blocked kill
2. Probably because I hinted I had a PR day 1? 😉
3. Genny outted herself two days ago (I mean I've known since d2 but.) But I figured they'd assume I'd protect her.
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The only thing I don't get is, if the d1 hint was an intentional thing to draw an attack, why didn't you protect yourself earlier?
 
PippyPony said:
Lynch dolphin

I agree with Mel, I think DVMD is fishing for being lynched, and I'm not sure I want to cooperate.
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How do you feel about Coop shading dolphin at the beginning of the game and getting flustered when I called her out?
 
And given the flip with Jil's role name/Allie's original role name, if the silencer is in fact village I'm not sure why people aren't looking harder at ny. She has the more typically village version of the muffler role, so if sometimes things are flip flopped in this game...
 
PippyPony said:
And given the flip with Jil's role name/Allie's original role name, if the silencer is in fact village I'm not sure why people aren't looking harder at ny. She has the more typically village version of the muffler role, so if sometimes things are flip flopped in this game...
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Too much assuming how mods would design a game. We also had a bodyguard and a protector. The Jil/Allie situation was funny opposites, a silencer and a post restrictor aren't opposites, so doesn't quite transfer. Nor is post restrictor any more typically village than silencer.
I mean sure, should probably lynch her at some point because she's going to be a neutral read for me forever otherwise, but hasn't been top priority when I've got people on my list who are actually giving off wolfy vibes.
 
WildZoo said:
Too much assuming how mods would design a game. We also had a bodyguard and a protector. The Jil/Allie situation was funny opposites, a silencer and a post restrictor aren't opposites, so doesn't quite transfer. Nor is post restrictor any more typically village than silencer.
I mean sure, should probably lynch her at some point because she's going to be a neutral read for me forever otherwise, but hasn't been top priority when I've got people on my list who are actually giving off wolfy vibes.
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That's fine, I'm not saying lynch her immediately based on ability alone. I'm just saying it would be nice if someone could you know, look into her at some point.
 
PippyPony said:
Lynch dolphin

I agree with Mel, I think DVMD is fishing for being lynched, and I'm not sure I want to cooperate.
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I feel the same about the DVMD lynch, so I understand voting for someone else. But there definitely have to be more wolfy people than me. Insert real life story below skip if you don’t care. 🙄
Sorry for the short reply I have real life class in like two seconds but Mixy messaged me about someone voting me so i quickly reread to catch up. Also side note I saw a CCL repair this morning instead of going to class and it was wonderful. Never seen one before!!!
 
dolphin106258 said:
I feel the same about the DVMD lynch, so I understand voting for someone else. But there definitely have to be more wolfy people than me. Insert real life story below skip if you don’t care. 🙄
Sorry for the short reply I have real life class in like two seconds but Mixy messaged me about someone voting me so i quickly reread to catch up. Also side note I saw a CCL repair this morning instead of going to class and it was wonderful. Never seen one before!!!
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Mixy messaged you to warn you of one vote? :eyebrow:
 
PippyPony said:
Unlynch dolphino

For now.

I just re-read up through page 38 and I now wish I was a silencer and could silence everyone, including myself. Quotes incoming though because I don't know how to shut up.
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For once a game that actually needed a silencer :laugh:
 
Proof that Coop would throw shade at another wolf on D1:
Coopah said:
PBC honestly, she's just so wishy-washy right now like she knows what's coming and is trying to prematurely build a defense. But I don't want to change my feels about mixy based on my feels for another person if that makes any sense. I'd be happy with either lynch rn.
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She was not overly provoked to do this. So no, her making one harsh comment about Dolphin's vote does not particularly clear her in my mind. Although I get they were different circumstances
WildZoo said:
Omg guys it just occurred to me we could play an awesome game of telephone with this PM setup
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:eyebrow:I just saw this and in light of something in PM, it now makes me question another assumption a bit.

WildZoo said:
A compilation of random thoughts:

On reread, coop/Peebs interactions don't read wolf/wolf. I didn't get too much else from ISOing coop's posts...maybe a village point or two for AM and cheezit.
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Oh they don't, huh? 😉
WildZoo said:
If Elf needed a mentor post-game start...probably doesn't have a wolf pack at her disposal
Paws feels like herself as I mentioned.
I'm ok with coffee for now, nothing too solid, just some things she's said that put her in my village lean category.

I'm wary of DVMD because the last time I remember she did a catch up like the one she did today, I'm pretty sure she was a wolf and I put her on my village list for that move. Don't remember which game off the top of my head. I fully acknowledge that may be a selective memory of something that is actually a null tell. So really I'm just keeping an eye there/reminding myself not to clear her for behavior I've seen her emulate as a wolf.

Would love to hear more from ny and allie (I know that might not happen, in ny's case because she is herself, and allie because she's far behind on the thread). Skim and bryn will hopeful contribute more now soon.

Something seemed...off about Glam. Just an impression that I don't have specific backup for yet.

There's smoke in the moose area that i think may indicate a fire. I have to admit I'm curious to see if AM is onto something there.

Everyone else I'm kind of in "meh" territory.

27 players, probably a chaos in there, maybe a neutral...I figure we're looking at 5 wolves total. 4+convert (but I'm not talking about converts yet 😉 )

So if I had to pick a top three I'd go Glam, moose...and probably someone that's been more under the radar.
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The rest of this post seemed kinda villagey though. And I agreed with the Glam comment and the DVMD comment (weirdly enough I also remembered her doing something similar, but I'm glad dubz put that out there and not me because I didn't have to take heat for not remembering specifics lol

kcoughli said:
Sorry just had to point out another person making the point Skimble and I were trying to make earlier (underlined).

Depending on how this flip goes and the night, I think I want to start looking at some of our quieter people (which probably includes me to some extent but still) - ny, glam, MJ, genny, etc.
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You have had a LOT of cross-talk/overlap with SkimbleJil. A lot a lot. I think I'm going to need to start seeing some more original reads from you because you have jumped on a lot of other people's (light) reads and pushed them harder, and you've had a bunch of comments that boiled down to "yeah me too!"

WildZoo said:
Thoughts on her interactions with coop? That's what moved her further down my list
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Is it? Or is it that Coop bit the dust from an exploded turtle shell (which BBC mentioned in her post btw -- I think that was a spoiler cause I didn't see anyone else say specifically that) and so you pulled back a bus? Why'd we clear you again?

..and then did you actually convert Cheezit, because it looks like right here he made a post, realized he had been converted, and then decided to walk back a PBC vote in...not the smoothest fashion.
Melchizedek said:
Coops "interacted" with 6 people D1
Elfabeth - random vote? Maybe not random vote?
AM - almost instantly gets on Coopah's case for voting mixy even though Coops said that the bandwagon on mixy made her nervous, AM is consistently on Coopah's ass for the rest of the day, picking up discrepancies. Coopah was the unseerable wolf, I'm hard pressed to think that this is faked wolf-wolf interaction because why risk putting the unseerable wolf in the crosshairs of the village? Best case scenario this would cause the seer to seer Coopah N1 and clear her. Yes, this is helpful to the wolves, but there's too many variables involved for even me to try that. Worst case scenario (and the more likely) is other people pick up the discrepancies and push Coopah's lynch. Not worth the risk.
EDIT: After what happened while I was typing this up, I'm willing to void the above about AM.


Myself - Minimal interaction with the one post about letting stuff from past games go.
PBC - Actually makes a case against PBC and says she could vote there but doesn't.
Mixy - Flipped village. 'nuff said.

Dolphin - Coopah was being pushed by AM and it sounds like she panicked and was throwing out whatever would stick at this point

I remember reading the PBC/Coop back and forth and feeling off about it as it was happening. When I went back to read it after Coops flipped, I read it as wolf-wolf smokescreen. Will read it again in the morning with fresh eyes and see whats what.

I thought I was enough for you 😢

Strike 3. I'm officially concerned
Uncontingency Lynch PBC
Contingency Lynch AM
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And then oh look, other people also thought that was weird af:
Animal Midwife said:
This isn't making sense Mel. I know you're village, but can you explain what this means?
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CoffeeQuestionMark said:
I'm not sure I follow this train of thought
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Although I want to know why AM is so convinced that Mel is (still) village, because I am not necessarily so convinced.

Also, I think he silenced me.

Also, his logic got a lot more dramatic after that in posts I didn't bother to quote. Also, he reversed his position on Dubz at some point recently and it caught my eye when it happened.

I also meant to post one of Glam's long catch up posts...I did see some weirdness there, and PM gave me no feels either way. I would be ok lynching GlamorousBryndi today, I think, but I am also toying with a Mel lynch.

This all contingent upon me reading the remaining 20ish pages of the thread, but my eyes are melting so I'm walking away for now.
 
PippyPony said:
Proof that Coop would throw shade at another wolf on D1:

She was not overly provoked to do this. So no, her making one harsh comment about Dolphin's vote does not particularly clear her in my mind. Although I get they were different circumstances

:eyebrow:I just saw this and in light of something in PM, it now makes me question another assumption a bit.


Oh they don't, huh? 😉

The rest of this post seemed kinda villagey though. And I agreed with the Glam comment and the DVMD comment (weirdly enough I also remembered her doing something similar, but I'm glad dubz put that out there and not me because I didn't have to take heat for not remembering specifics lol


You have had a LOT of cross-talk/overlap with SkimbleJil. A lot a lot. I think I'm going to need to start seeing some more original reads from you because you have jumped on a lot of other people's (light) reads and pushed them harder, and you've had a bunch of comments that boiled down to "yeah me too!"


Is it? Or is it that Coop bit the dust from an exploded turtle shell (which BBC mentioned in her post btw -- I think that was a spoiler cause I didn't see anyone else say specifically that) and so you pulled back a bus? Why'd we clear you again?

..and then did you actually convert Cheezit, because it looks like right here he made a post, realized he had been converted, and then decided to walk back a PBC vote in...not the smoothest fashion.

And then oh look, other people also thought that was weird af:


Although I want to know why AM is so convinced that Mel is (still) village, because I am not necessarily so convinced.

Also, I think he silenced me.

Also, his logic got a lot more dramatic after that in posts I didn't bother to quote. Also, he reversed his position on Dubz at some point recently and it caught my eye when it happened.

I also meant to post one of Glam's long catch up posts...I did see some weirdness there, and PM gave me no feels either way. I would be ok lynching GlamorousBryndi today, I think, but I am also toying with a Mel lynch.

This all contingent upon me reading the remaining 20ish pages of the thread, but my eyes are melting so I'm walking away for now.
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Wolf!Mel likes to pocket me. He hasn't even attempted to do that this game.
 
tl;Dr:
I'm not voting until I can get through more of the thread again, but from early read:

- Need more substance from KC instead of snark and voting theory commentary

- Cheezit got real weird mid-game and did a 180 a couple times in a row (a 720?) inexplicably

- Dubz would totes convert Cheese for lulz

- However, she had some good points that made me lean village, so I'm split on that read. One of the good points was calling out Glam for some of the same posts that bugged me a bit. Might do a GlammedOutBryndi info lynch.

Still don't want to do what DVMD says if she is actually non-village, and I'm not sure why other people are so eager to listen to her.
 
PippyPony said:
Yah, but you also have blinders where he is concerned and told him you think he's village, so I'm not sure why he'd even have to pocket you in the first place 😛
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Maybe it's just his phrasing and the way he's interacting with me in PMs being super consistent with his read on me. Can't say the same for TLM.
 
PippyPony said:
You have had a LOT of cross-talk/overlap with SkimbleJil. A lot a lot. I think I'm going to need to start seeing some more original reads from you because you have jumped on a lot of other people's (light) reads and pushed them harder, and you've had a bunch of comments that boiled down to "yeah me too!"
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Yeah, no kidding. Hence why I was not seeing at all where people were getting that she was wolfy. I still don't really get how she got caught honestly. And frankly, I haven't been as active because
1. I'm in a residency program and don't always have time to do more than try to keep up during the day (or a long catch up in the evenings), by which time a lot of the things I would have commented on have either already been commented on by someone else (Dubz mostly) or the topic has been resolved so it doesn't really matter anymore.
2. This thread is so freaking chatty and busy, I don't feel like adding to it by repeating thoughts made by others
3. There are so many people (still) that I keep misremembering who said/did what and it becomes too time intensive to go back and figure it out. Yes, lazy.

PippyPony said:
- Need more substance from KC instead of snark and voting theory commentary
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Where's my snark? And don't get me started on that second thing or I will lose it. See above for why low on substance.

I'm also at a weird point in the game where I'm definitely too focused on one player (COUGH AM COUGH) and can't see past my own blinders. I still don't see how people picked out Skilary as wolfy (as noted above), but admittedly when people side with me on things they tend to get village leans in my head so I'm apparently too manipulatable.

I'm pretty sure there are players left who I don't even realize are playing. I haven't even PMed anyone this game.
 
PippyPony said:
She is -- I was flipping out in my mod pm yesterday about how 2 saves was already almost too good to be a coincidence. Three saves...yowza
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Lol and I nearly picked moose instead of Mel the night she died but for reasons didn't

@Miranda Senft sorry about that btw 🙁 I have major suspicions about PM partners asking questions about my plans and was convinced you were an evil genius
 
@PippyPony There's a reason cheezit sort of decided I was ok (well, except for continuing to say I might be an unseerable wolf lol) and that reason was not conversion. I'm ok with him for a similar reason, plus an extra one.

Edit:
Also I am apparently terrible at picking up wolf/wolf interactions, so I don't even know why I try. See: Shufflin for further evidence
 
Animal Midwife said:
Day 1 Lynch Tally Final
RL-KB (1) - DVMD
SAR () -
MA (6) - PBC, jboo, Cray, Coop, Pippy, Elfabeth
bryndy (1) - SAR
Coops () -
genny (1) - BBC/Ferny
BBC () -
Paws (1) - Skimble
Elfabeth (2) - MOOSE, Nyan
Cray () -
Mel () -
Coffee (4) - Stagg, genny, Glam, MA
PBC (3) - WZ, Paws, Mel
allieh (1) - Coffee
MJ () -
MOOSE (3) - AM, RL-KB, kc
DVMD (1) - dolph

24/27 missing allie, MJ, bryndi

DAY 2 LYNCH TALLY

Elfabeth (1) - Stagg
jboo (6) - Moose, PBC, Skimble, bryndy, Glamm, cray, dolph
Fern/BBC (1) - Elfa
PBC () -
WZ (1) - DVMD
bryndy (2) - nyan, MJ
RL-KB (1) -
Moose (2) - RL-KB, jboo
Coffee () -
AM (1) - SAR
Stagg (1) - BBC
Cray (8) - AM, MA, genny, Pippy, WZ, kc, Paws, Mel

24/26 missing allie, coffee

Day 3 Lynch Tally FINAL:
Stagg (1) - DVMD
WZ (2) - allieh, Pippy
Glamm (1) - WZ
Moose (2) - RL-KB, Jimble
DVMD ()
Bryndy (2) - AM, Stagg
jboo (7) - kcough, dolph, Moose, PBC, MJ, LoTF, Coffee?
SAR (1) - nyan
PBC (6) - Mel, SAR, bryndi, MA, genny, jboo
NY (1) - BBC

23/26 missing paws, cray, glamm

Day 4 Lynch Tally (pre-vig shot)
Bryndy (8) - AM, Cray, Moose, Coffee, SAR, Paws, dolph, Mixy
Paws (1) - Glamm
AM (6) - Stagg, DVMD, Skimble, kcough, Pippy, bryndy
RL-KB (1) - PBC
Stagg (1) - Paws
Nyan () -
PBC (1) - Mel
Moose (1) - RL-KB
MJ (1) - nyan

20/24 missing genny, MJ, Fern, WZ

Final Day 4 Lynch Tally (post-vig shot)
Bryndy (6) - Cray, Moose, Coffee, SAR, AM, genny
Paws (1) - Glamm
AM (5) - Stagg, DVMD, Skimble, kcough, bryndy
RL-KB () -
Stagg () -
Nyan () -
Moose (5) - RL-KB, Pippy, WZ, Paws, Mel
MJ (2) - nyan, LoTF

19/23 missing MJ, Fern, dolphin, Mixy

Party of Day 5 Lynch Tally:
BBC (16) - AM, genny, Paws, WZ, kcough, SAR, MA, Coffee, Pippy, Mel, nyan, bryndy, KB-allie, dolp, Skim, LOTF
Paws ()
kcough () -
Glamm aka bryndy () -
AM () -
Coffee () -
Mel (1) - BBC
WZ () -
Sporty (1) - DVMD

18/20 missing Cray, Stagg

😴 D6 Lynch Tally
am (3) - kcough, Skimble, nyan
ny (1) - pippy
skim (7) - am, dubz, paws, LoTF, allieh, SAR, Coffee?
pippy (1) - dvmd
WZ (1) - dvmd
Cray (2) - Mel, bryndy
bryndy (3) - genny, MA, dolph
Coffee? (1) - Cray

18/19 missing stagg
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There a reason why Stagg isn't getting wrist slapped for missing 2 lynch votes in a row?
 
allieh8607 said:
Mixy messaged you to warn you of one vote? :eyebrow:
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Not warn she just wanted my thoughts but I didn’t have time to respond to Mixy and post in the thread. I guess in reality it didn’t matter bc you quoted me (whoops) but I get email notifications for messages so that’s why I got on the thread at the time.
 
WildZoo said:
@PippyPony There's a reason cheezit sort of decided I was ok (well, except for continuing to say I might be an unseerable wolf lol) and that reason was not conversion. I'm ok with him for a similar reason, plus an extra one.
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mmhm yes I am aware

I guess then the best explanation for why he got so erratic was that he took a mid-game trip to bizarro-land
 
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