Soccer WW - Match thread!

[Coopah]

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And the bandwagon to lynch a villager begins.

 

[Navilly]

Is this because she isn't throwing shade at you? haha

I like the pursuit of SAR, dislike the mild pseudo defense or Barkley.


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[Navilly]

Votes barks for no apparent reason, sheeps a nav vote until called out, switches back to barks again with no reasoning, then claims mutts as top wolf read. I dont like the all-over-the-placeness. Then asks for everyones up do date reads.

This post doesn’t age well. Another pseudo defense/shaming or vote.


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[Navilly]

Yes. Always. Last time I was suspicious of you early, you were a wolf.

Why are you suspicious of lupin?


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[Navilly]

Yeeeeah! It's 2020! Let's all get along. Leave that Nav salt in 2019

Is that fancy salt like Himalayan salt? Truffle salt?

Ah yes all the Kumbaya as that is inherently part of my gameplay. Definitely never ruffle feathers or try and play off others emotions to draw slips. No sirree


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[Navilly]

And if you recall, I went down trying to get you all to lynch a wolf that I'd been on since D2 that game...

So always listen to Lupin’s reads list as she will go for wolves as village or wolf. Got it, all fear alleviated!


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[Navilly]

If I had to place a vote now maybe BC. Sunbodi is kind of all over the place, but I dont know that its wolfy... yet.

Reading through I started to Wonder what happened to Wondering....strong presence all over the thread at all times in noob game almost matching bigcats, then seems to be laying in the background this game. Only day 1 though, and did pick up activity later in the day.

Im not seeing the SAR feels, actually have you and her as v/v in that earlier exchange.

Why do you have those exchanges as V/V


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[BigCats]

Interesting vibes 2/4 of those.

Why did your vibes increase by that time in the day on barks?


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What do you think about the other people that voted without solid reasoning? Did you really decide on him based on profile pic?

Are they any of Nav's posts that you especially agree or disagree with?

Thought this post seemed a little too tryhard. Asking questions to try to seem "helpful", not actually providing anything of substance.

What does this mean

This is what really threw me over the edge tbh. Barks was literally IN wolfchat with us in the noob game- pretty strange to be questioning Wondering about getting killed three times when she(?) knows perfectly well that yes, we really did take three tries to fully kill Wondering, and we were all saying in wolfchat how she was a great strategic villager because of it. I thought it was an incredibly weird thing to say since I knew she knew the context, and I didn't dig it. Combined with the fact that I already had sketchy vibes, it pretty much sealed the deal for me.

 

[Navilly]

Personally I think everybody reads everybody else like crap so we should all just dartboard

Maybe we can just RNG the whole game, that sounds like lots of fun! I mean isn’t RNG just what WW is all about??


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[Navilly]

the only strong feeling I have is that genny is village. Idt she’d go for mayor so soon after Foodie WW

Yeah, genny is tricksy, if you are thinking she won’t do something because you think she won’t, she is already two steps ahead of you.


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[Navilly]

unlynch killer, lynch Cubs

I'm at work so haven't been able to read any of the new posts other than scanning for our lynch tally. Rather we not have a tie so. I wanna revenge lynch BigCats (because of noob game) but uhhhhh I guess I shouldn't lynch for that reason. Barks' comments that I saw earlier seemed innocent enough and SAR I think said they were good at reading genny so I would rather not lynch them by some chance they give some good insight on genny. Don't really have a wolf read yet so it's difficult to say.

This post also ages poorly.


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[genny]

What had you thinking barks originally?




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Magical powers. And the answer I gave Lupin last night: she seemed off.

Why are you suspicious of lupin?


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It is always good to be suspicious of Lupin. She appears to be villaging for now, so I am hoping that trend will continue.

 

[cubsrule4e]

Why do you have those exchanges as V/V


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Just the feel I got. With all of the revelations youve just put out there though, and it looks like barks was almost avoidant of you, didnt vote you D1 like always, and asked me why I wasnt voting for you, then a case could be made that you and lupin tried to start a SAR wagon to get votes off of barks. Although id have to check the exact timing of when those votes were placed. So actually now im moving you and lupin as possibly less village.

 

[deleted804295]

Hello everyone,

I've come down with a cold and don't have much energy right now. I'll try and list my reads tonight before lynch.

If my thoughts are jumbled please excuse me in advance I've been bedridden all day and had to cancel work

 

[Navilly]

Can you find some examples of this for me? 😛

Only half joking but I seriously think you and Nav have an inflated idea of how well I play. At best it will be proof I am not lying and am crap at D1, especially when I'm busy. At worst, it would be a nice ego boost I could use after today.

I haven't forgotten about your Genny reads request. I haven't been on a proper computer in days but will try to tonight. Gotta shower first though because it's the only warmth left in my life when it's below -40 outside

Given the amount of times I have rooted you on either while modding or as a dead villager for great village play. Gone is the time where I have endless time to provide you your plethora of examples. If you need some feel good refreshers, I am sure @PippyPony has nothing better to do since she isn’t playing, she has been a part of those conversations before.


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[Navilly]

yes!! Horses!! We kicked butt, but unfortunately the last village game I have been able to contribute to lol

Are you not contributing to this one? 😀


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[Navilly]

@Barkley13 I voted for you, change my mind.

This post ironically is what has me with genny as most village, other posts had me leaning as a bussing wolf.


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[cubsrule4e]

Are you not contributing to this one? 😀


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🙄

 

[Navilly]

#####lynch bigcats####

because of wwwinter

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Hey killerleaf. Maybe let’s not do revenge votes and actually play the game we are in. Much appreciated 🙂


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[Navilly]

About to drive home after getting gas. May not be super active until after lynch close

A lot of your posts seem excuse filled. Allowing you to conveniently not be here if you don’t have to be. And also quite defensive. You have been racking up the wolf points. You may be able to exchange them for a lynch vote soon!


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[deleted804295]

For now

Lynch MPM

MPM, mutt, and Lupin were sus for me since D1 based on mayor votes. I was afraid to say Lupin because they are very adept at the game and I didnt want to be targeted by them


I am distributing the vote because Alissa reads as village to me right now and she gave the most detailed scrub reading.

Wolfie is not being helpful but she wasn't during the noob game and she still ended up as village so for now she is in the idk category.

 

[deleted804295]

If I gain energy by tonight I hope to give an analysis on every player like alissa did

 

[Navilly]

Well, in her favor, it is Nav and rulz do not apply. bahahahaa

The one rule of Nav is there is no rules. But you know the same can probably go for a certain moderator. Kettle and pot and all of that.


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[Navilly]

Now that we are back to our regularly scheduled programming, What is the resistance to her lynch then? Or were you mostly wanting @Barkley13 to come and chat? I guess for barks she gets mislynched often too, so unless there is something more substantial, I am trying to be better at my first votes. haha

The more lupin is talking, the more I can’t see her hard steering votes away from barks on day one as a wolf. With that said, lupin is a wolves first type of wolfer and will try and keep the rest of his pack alive if possible. It all falls neutral for me, but just things to think about.


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[Coopah]

Hello everyone,

I've come down with a cold and don't have much energy right now. I'll try and list my reads tonight before lynch.

If my thoughts are jumbled please excuse me in advance I've been bedridden all day and had to cancel work

Too much excitement yesterday *solemn nod*

 

[Navilly]

Guys I'm a bad lynch. 🙄

Now that you have openly revealed yourself as a PR, what wonderful knowledge have you gleaned from last night?

And a bad lynch, as we will be lynching someone bad with this lynch. Also, are you going to fully claim villager at this point, or would you like to draw one of the third party cards to claim? Just want to clarify now, so there’s no change ups later.


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[Navilly]

SEVERAL People are killing BIGCATS for a MEME???

PLEASE SHIFT VOTE TO SOME SUS PLAYERS

Yeah those on that vote that stayed there for that reason is certainly... yeah.

For that reason A SAR flip will yield a lot of info, especially if SAR comes back wolf. Will be a really bad look for people not on one or the other.


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[Navilly]

Don't worry Frond. I have you in my villa lean pile. haha

Man other than SAR, mine and your reads are quite contradictory this game. Which is a bit weird, I feel like we are usually on the same page.


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[mizchiefmanaged]

Yeah those on that vote that stayed there for that reason is certainly... yeah.

For that reason A SAR flip will yield a lot of info, especially if SAR comes back wolf. Will be a really bad look for people not on one or the other.


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FWIW when I wolfed with SAR she was very troll-like. I’m not sure I’m getting that vibe yet this game from her.

 

[Navilly]

It's not noobs that are on me.

I have to agree with lupin on this, what in the world was your defense last night?


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[Navilly]

I’m so behind but I see SAR claimed PR?

lynch big cats

Well that.... also aged quite well for SAR...


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[Navilly]

I feel.good about Genny, Sunbodi, and oddly enough you. Probably Nav too though it pains me

Not feeling great about Mel/Stagg. Wondering pinged me early today iirc. Possibly Alissa. Weaker on the noobs because noise to signal is hard for me to sort out

Though it pains you?

Also when have you ever read me village by day 2. Everything you have done since starting this game is off.


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[Navilly]

unlynch wondering
lynch barks

This may bite me later, but this vote is essentially a coffee is villager until proven otherwise moment.


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[ziggyandjazzy]

Hello everyone,

I've come down with a cold and don't have much energy right now. I'll try and list my reads tonight before lynch.

If my thoughts are jumbled please excuse me in advance I've been bedridden all day and had to cancel work

Relatable

 

[Navilly]

I'm a better choice to lynch than SAR if SAR really is a PR but I'm still not a good choice.

And this post, unless wickedly well coached (specifically lupin is about the only one)., pretty much keeps big cats in village territory until proven otherwise

(Obviously both big cats and coffee are prime conversion targets, but you know, we will tackle that road later on)


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[mizchiefmanaged]

This may bite me later, but this vote is essentially a coffee is villager until proven otherwise moment.


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You’re either not a wolf or haven’t caught up on wolf chat. Coffee got NKd last night.

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

And this post, unless wickedly well coached (specifically lupin is about the only one)., pretty much keeps big cats in village territory until proven otherwise

(Obviously both big cats and coffee are prime conversion targets, but you know, we will tackle that road later on)


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I agree with this post.

 

[Navilly]

@cubsrule4e @killerleaf and @WolfieUSER]


Why did you vote bigcats?[/QUOTE]

Just for added emphasis.


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[Navilly]

[QUOTE="WolfieQUOTE]

“Hi my name is wolf villager, I was watching thread and trying to stick to my vote on my fellow brother, and now I must show enthusiastic excitement that we got a wolf, because that’s what a villager would do, right?”


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[Navilly]

[QUOTE="WolfieQUOTE]

For some reason that post didn’t quote the Above


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[mizchiefmanaged]

And the bandwagon to lynch a villager begins.

Girl, I was BORN in the guilt trip. MOLDED by it. You can’t guilt trip a guilt tripper 😛

 

[Navilly]

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@Lupin21 where is the "dissolve into epic emotional meltdown and tell everyone voting for you that they're stupid and are clearly trying to ruin your life with their bottomless idiocy" step
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It’s called the Pippy/miz step. It’s a very intricate step, too difficult for novices to master.


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[Navilly]

Okay, I managed to catch up properly this time and formulate some reads. Sorry the format is ****, tbh I wanna go watch the Witcher before I have to go to sleep.


Bigcats - lots of initial fluff but reads and votes are justified. I like this noob and we should keep them
Sunbodi - spewed village
Wolfie - light wolf read. Promised to read the thread "in a bit", never followed through. Timing feels mildly opportunistic (but also congrats on the acceptance because that showed up on my iso since it's broken)
Cubs - feels a bit fluffy but I've liked his last 4 or so posts so a neutral-village lean for that
Killerleaf - not enough to go on here. Definitely flying under the radar
MsP - giving reads and thoughts; more meaningful participation than I feel like I'm used to. Village points for this
Genny - feels like village genny (And Lupin, I did an iso of myself but apparently even when I put a read on genny I keep it to myself or I was a faction not-village. I did have a correct read in NH48 but with the search function being annoying I didn't go through a lot of games. But you'll just have to accept that I feel like I can read genny, even if it's not in the literature [hard for a vet, I know 😛 ])
Nav - feels like village Nav with his rapid fire this morning
Lupin - village points, but honestly Lupin scares me so I never believe my village read even when I make it
Coffee - feels very defensive(?) of noobs and teachery on thread without actually providing a whole lot of her own thoughts? Soft wolf, but with hesitance because I feel like I tend to wolf read and be wrong here
Mutts - need more participation, not enough to go on (But @Sunbodi is incorrect, she has posted 6 times, not 3)
Wondering - wolfy lean. Something just feels off based on tone. Snappy, quick to jump to defenses, feels like jumpy noob wolf. Made noises about not wanting a tie but didn't do anything about it. Maybe because they couldn't without looking sketchy?
Mel/Stagg - Mel's post about game balance felt very angle-shooty to me which isn't normally something I associate with him, pinged my radar and gave wolf points based largely on that. Do also need more here to go on though
Alissa - also tone reading a bit wolfy. Lots of posts but very little content other than reasons why there wasn't any content
MPM - Feels village but I think the last time I said this she was wolfy AF so probably going to tuck her more towards neutral for now

TL;DR:

Village-ish to wolfy-ish:

Sunbodi
Nav
Genny
Bigcats
MsP

Lupin
Cubs
MPM
Killerleaf
Mutts

Coffee
Wolfie
Alissa
Mel/Stagg
Wondering

Order within groups not necessarily rock solid in all cases

Some of these reads feel off, quoting now to remind myself to reread and figure out what’s bugging me


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[Navilly]

Spoiler: Day 2 Lynch Tracker

Day 2

Coffee (1) - BigCats
BigCats (1) - Wolfie
Wondering (1) - Coffee
Barks (1) - Sunbodi
SAR (1) - Nav
cubs (1) - alissa
Barks (0) - Sunbodi
SAR (2) - Nav, Sunbodi
Sar (1) - Nav, Sunbodi
Barks (1) - Sunbodi
killer (1) - Wondering
SAR (2) - Nav, Lupes
Barks (2) - Sunbodi, MsP
cubs (2) - alissa, mutts
BigCats (2) - Wolfie, cubs
killer (0) - Wondering
cubs (3) - alissa, mutts, Wondering
Barks (3) - Sunbodi, MsP, genny
cubs (2) - alissa, mutts, Wondering
Sunbodi (1) - alissa
BigCats (3) - Wolfie, cubs, killer
SAR (3) - Nav, Lupes, mpm
BigCats (4) - Wolfie, cubs, killer, SAR
Coffee (0) - BigCats
SAR (4) - Nav, Lupes, mpm, BigCats
SAR (3) - Nav, Lupes, mpm, BigCats
Barks (4) - Sunbodi, MsP, genny, BigCats
SAR (2) - Nav, Lupes, mpm
alissa (1) - mpm
BigCats (5) - Wolfie, cubs, killer, SAR, Barks
Wondering (0) - Coffee
Barks (5) - Sunbodi, MsP, genny, BigCats, Coffee

Quoting to glance at later


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[PippyPony]

I am sure @PippyPony has nothing better to do since she isn’t playing

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Excuse you, I'm very busy.

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[Navilly]

I’m getting this out before I go to sleep again: I wouldn’t village read Nav because he’s spewing posts. He’s an excellent wolf. A really excellent wolf. He will spew post regardless of affiliation. There was nothing that he said that really made me village read him and me dying so early kinda concerns me.

I agree with all of this post except the ending. You dying should not add points to me. It shouldn’t necessarily detract points from me, but meh.


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[Navilly]

[QUOTE="Wolfie
It seems like the only realistic villager read is sunbodi (unless killing off a wolf in a tie was their genius idea to make everyone believe they are villager 😛).

For the record, yes I would've changed my vote had I come in to see the lynch vote and not let it end in a tie (so i would've either switched to barks or someone else, which would've been basically voting barks anyways). Sorry I was busy celebrating my acceptance to Davis that I completely forgot about this game lol!

My only read now is everyone who jumped onto the BigCats lynch to try and possible save Barks? -- The 3rd and 4th vote would seem a little extra sketchy than cubs 2nd vote. So my light wolf reads currently would be killer and SAR.[/QUOTE]

“I cannot read anyone because I don’t know people, so I can only accept the most villagery villager as village.” -am I doing this right yet? Do people think I am a villager?-

Be commital. Be bold. Or be lynched for hedging like a wolf would.


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[Navilly]

Read the thread again. Lynch killer for now.

Part of the reason I’m changing my gameplay is because while it worked in the noob game, it got me lynched super early in the 90’s game. Sorry if this reads as suspicious. I’ll be able to check in all day today. I look forward to some good conversation.

I want your interpretation of the evidence for killer, not just a couple of quoted posts.


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[Navilly]

My friends have nothing to be jealous about I love them all!

Do all of your friends get chocolates though? 😛


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[Navilly]

I am interested in mutts, killer, mpm, SAR, wolfie, and wondering today.

Why not Alisa?


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