StardeWW 2: Ginger Island - GAME THREAD

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One thing I would encourage to anyone looking back at my reviews is that, while you consider my interpretations and conclusions, also just look through the material in the spoilers. I spoke about the things that I thought I could interpret, but those of you with a wealth of meta/experience playing together might have insights that I do not have. I'd value those insights a great deal.
 
genny said:
Lucy seemed to expect this, and I thought her response was pretty village yesterday
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Concur, and I think it's scummy to immediately go to "right so Santy WAS village, that means it's time to flip Lucy." We aren't at that point yet imo
 
potentialsheltervet said:
What, you want me to beg on thread for someone to out their PR to save a sketchy villager? Absolutely not.
I think it's very weird you're dredging people out of consensus village (SAR especially).
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I know I’m village so unless the wolf pack is exactly Nate and Miranda, your list may be incorrectly clearing people
 
supershorty said:
There were a lot of assumptions being thrown around the island. The islanders knew they were surrounded by soup connoisseurs and soup saboteurs, but weren't sure whomst fell where on the scale. They had quickly identified that a grumpy old man who placed "help wanted" posters asking for quartz, but then got mad if you actually gave him quartz as a gift, was not there for the benefit of the budding young village. Lightning doesn't have tastebuds, so they knew that storm was sus as heck. But did things really work the way they thought they did? And were people taking advantage of those assuming they understood how things worked because perhaps some people knew otherwise?
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This whole paragraph makes my brain cry
 
supershorty said:
Night 2

We have to do something, the low voice said. We have a lot of ground to make up. They found themselves pacing in a back room, trying to decide what the best strategy was. They needed to take over this town and they were running out of time to do so.

"There's always the iridium," came the gravelly voice. "But it comes at such a price. Is it worth it?"

Brows furrowed. They had left the iridium alone, keeping it for emergencies. Truthfully, they hadn't really thought about it much - it just seemed like too much of a risk. But now, they gingerly placed it on the table, studying it.

Did they want to pursue it? What would it cost?

Everything.

Their eyes locked and they both gave a small nod. They knew what they had to do.
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There were a lot of assumptions being thrown around the island. The islanders knew they were surrounded by soup connoisseurs and soup saboteurs, but weren't sure whomst fell where on the scale. They had quickly identified that a grumpy old man who placed "help wanted" posters asking for quartz, but then got mad if you actually gave him quartz as a gift, was not there for the benefit of the budding young village. Lightning doesn't have tastebuds, so they knew that storm was sus as heck. But did things really work the way they thought they did? And were people taking advantage of those assuming they understood how things worked because perhaps some people knew otherwise?

And just what the heck were these walnuts? What were you supposed to do with them?

The islanders had tried a multitude of tricks with the walnuts. Stepping on them, bribing parrots with them, juicing them (the delicacy of walnut juice is favored by bots, I've heard), smashing them on the floor, smashing them against heads, planting them ... but none of it seemed to do anything. Perplexed and frustrated noises roiled the village. Even though the nuts were hypoallergenic, no one trusted them. Where were they even coming from, and what relevance did they have?

One person had unlocked the secret to the walnuts. She kept it to herself, uncertain of whether what she had discovered was real or just a fever dream. Sometimes, the fumes from bleaching her hair to dye it blue really got to her, and she just wasn't sure she believed what she had seen.

She mulled it over while traveling. She didn't feel safe at her house and abandoned her farming for the night to go get some good ol' fashioned R&R at the resort. She returned home after the morning sun was over the horizon, lighting up the farm. She stepped onto her front porch, noticing that some things seemed just slightly out of place. But maybe she was just misremembering, or her mind was playing tricks on her. She hadn't been home. She didn't let anyone in. It had to be that she was seeing things ... right?

She waited to open the door until hearing the roosters crow in the distance, marking the end of the night officially. She sighed in relief, swinging it open, and stepping on the trap that had been laid, waiting for her to get home and ready to detonate at any moment.

The secret of the walnuts went with her to the grave.

Dead is...
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@samac, Emily, and a...
village every other night commuter


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"I don't make factory farms," he grumbled to himself, trying to buy the store out of wheat and planning how he was going to save up all his money to start a pig empire. "I just maximize efficiency. No one understands me. They say I'm just a kid and I don't get it, oh yeah? Well I get it a lot more than you grownups do."

He was an exceptionally precocious child, sometimes getting himself into trouble in the process. His sarcasm often became amusing after the fact. He'd known that Jas didn't feel right - that the shocks sometimes coming off of her were more than just static. And when he'd voted for her to get on the train and faced suspicion himself, he'd just shrugged and said "is that the game we're playing?" while stubbornly refusing to move. The more people pushed him to do something, the less inclined he was to do it - which was clear from his adamant, and wildly incorrect, take that breakfast for dinner wasn't a good thing. What kind of kid was he?

But even he had seen the light eventually and realized that certain pancakes made for really good dinners.

Not waffles, though. He didn't believe in those for dinners or for ends of days.

He hadn't had many opportunities for trickery yet. He enjoyed a good game of chess and hadn't really found anyone to play with yet, although he was looking. His latest prank amused him, but he didn't know yet if it had worked or not. He whistled quietly to himself, but paused when the sounds of the birds drowned him out. That was so unusual. Of course, there were birds here and there, but they weren't usually this loud.

What did it mean?

The idyllic island was disrupted by a horrifying scream and a swirl of feathers. They found him in the morning, still and cold on the ground, never to be the 5D grandmaster again.

Dead is...
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@Zenge142, Vincent, and a...
village even night redirector

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Tensions rose. They didn't understand. How and why had this happened? What could they do to stop it? What other terrifying things lurked in the shadows?

The wind carried a whisper of someone's spoken word, echoing from far away.

"Everything..."

13 players remain.

1. @potentialsheltervet
3. @alleycat03
5. @Clem J
7. @WildZoo
7.7 @Stagg737
8. @SARdoghandler
11. @lucy.
12. @JaggedJimmyJay
13. @Barkley13
14. @miranda920
17. @Lawpy
18. @genny
>. @NateTheLesser

Returned to Stardew Valley:
10. @mightyrunner7, George, WOLF vanillizer
9. @bluestoat, Pierre, neutral 3p
4. @Viscernable, Lightning, Electric WOLF
2. @Animal Midwife, Abigail, village one-shot vigilante
21. @Santygrass, Krobus, village odd night hider
16. @samac, Emily, village every other night commuter
6. @Zenge142, Vincent, village even night redirector

Sidecars:
1. @PlumPoppy
2. @futuredogtor614
3. @motheatenlysis
4. @matthirten13

Subs:
1. @mkg323
2. @dyachei
3. @SportPonies

Tots:
1. @justafluff
2. @Ms Procrastinator
3. @chicandtoughness
4. @marmot`

It is now Day 3. Vote closes at 10 PM CDT tomorrow, 3/21 (~36 hours).​
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supershorty said:
stepping on the trap that had been laid,
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I guess that's how she died though I don't understand it from a mechanical standpoint

Also mad she didn't tell me how the walnuts worked :rage: but maybe was after our PM closed
 
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samac said:
Village:
Dubz
Zenge
SAR
JJJ
alley
Lawpy

Lean cause santy:
Clem
lucy

Null
genny
Stagg
miranda
PSV

POE
Nate
Barks


I feel pretty good about alley but maybe something different happened N1.
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Just musing over samac's legacy

Zenge didn't really leave one but seemed to be most interested in lucy and Barks which is unfortunate since we have Santy saying not to vote the former and AM saying not to vote the latter. Gonna go through his posts to make sure I'm not missing anything.

Does Zenge + samac sus negate AM village read on Barks :thinking:

Will AM shoot me from beyond the grave if I vote Barks...

Maybe I'll just

Yeet Nate
 
JaggedJimmyJay said:
Interactions of mightyrunner7 and NateTheLesser

From mighty about Nate


The first post is a pretty generous reception of Nate that vaguely mirrors mighty's handling of samac -- hand out town points for "data over feels".

From Nate about mighty


Green - this is a reasonably juicy post. Nate specifically prodded mighty for his read on now-confirmed mafia teammate Vis. This would generally be a decent thing; however, this was about 90 minutes prior to the deadline with the two of them heavily leading the tally (mighty 6 - Vis 5 - lucy 2). That tempers the value of the prod and makes it more token.

Nate's vote for mighty came at the deadline.

Conclusion

There's not enough here to provide confidence either way about Nate, so he remains a potential teammate more or less by default. Still, there's a little room to wonder if mighty's read on him was TMI mapped alongside his similar read of samac (this requires assuming samac to be town).
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Mulling this over
 
Of the soft village clears, the bloc if you will (not the blocc), really it's the alley one that feels most tenuous to me because it depends entirely on us correctly understanding what happened n1.

I think like, Jay and I are blocc, then there's SAR and PSV that have supporting village reads and good VCA, then there's Stagg and Lucy in an adjacent bucket that look like they were village counters to the two wolf wagons, then there's Barks, Lawpy, and Clem that are mostly supported by village reads from cleared villagers, and then there's alley and Nate that don't have VCA or strong support from clear villagers to help them, and alley just has that possible mechanical clear.
 
Lawpy said:
Santy, samacs and Zenges were wolfreading or were suspicious of Barky though. It’s pretty much just the AM read that’s protecting her
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I realize this, that's why I was musing earlier about whether the sus reads on her negated AM's village read.
 
I believe AM was being credited with strong reads on both Barky and Lawpy. Are those AM reads generally given the same confidence level from a "read card" or "god read" perspective?
 
I've thought Lawpy seems quite town just on my own since they replaced in. I have no meta, but that's been my impression.
 
JaggedJimmyJay said:
I believe AM was being credited with strong reads on both Barky and Lawpy. Are those AM reads generally given the same confidence level from a "read card" or "god read" perspective?
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No. She has a godread on Lawpy that I don't think has ever failed. I don't have the same level of confidence in her Barks read.
She's been right on Barks very often but not quite at Lawpy level.
 
WildZoo said:
I guess that's how she died though I don't understand it from a mechanical standpoint

Also mad she didn't tell me how the walnuts worked :rage: but maybe was after our PM closed
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Do you think the person she commuted got walnuts?

Idk if sdn usually uses self commuter (what I've mostly seen other places) or a targeted commuter
 
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