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I wish I could take this thread seriously but I only take lifting advice from Jason Genova and Dom Mazzetti.
Lifting is a journey that starts with feelings of inadequacy, and ends with feelings of inadequacy. Except now you can't fit through doors.I wish I could take this thread seriously but I only take lifting advice from Jason Genova and Dom Mazzetti.
Sad day when I found out Gaspari was spiking their protein. But I have always gone with Optimum and Dymatize.
Reps for JesusI wish I could take this thread seriously but I only take lifting advice from Jason Genova and Dom Mazzetti.
my friend said he literally just takes a table spoon of it and eats it straight up lol lol lol.... I'll probably cook my veggies in it
Any protein recommendations as far as Whey goes? I have gone with Gold Standard for the majority of my lifting experience but after seeing a couple of you guys name drop some particularly bad protein brands I'm just wondering what is a tried and true brand most people use?
Also been using casein protein mostly because there was a steal at GNC. I also realized I tend to drink shakes at night before bed anyway so I am wondering if casein would be my best bet. General whey vs. casein pros and cons.
Good thread!
MyProtein tastes pretty good, but I just hate that I have to use like 3 scoops to get 40-50g of protein.I've been buying MyProtein. The quality is good and it's pretty cheap.
Yeah I've seen some NF that would definitely fall into the 'not beautiful' category.False
No, the person not saving money is wrong.It's like how Some people ENJOY obsessively saving their money so they can see those numbers increasing overtime, some might consider that fun, others not so much. Neither person is right or wrong.
You really didn't need to try to convince me that it's okay for some people to enjoy lifting, I explicitly said in my post that I enjoy lifting. The only point I'm trying to make is that it frequently becomes an unhealthy obsession at which point its "fitness" aspect is often abandoned.First, you can devolve any sport or activity to sound as simple and dumb as that. Baseball is hitting a ball with a piece of wood, video games are hitting a few buttons while you stare at a screen, etc. I'm sure you know there is more to lifting than that, so no reason to try and make it sound like less than it is just because YOU don't enjoy it. I find that counterproductive and frankly immature.
Second, Different people can enjoy it for different reasons. Some simply love pushing themselves and seeing the progress overtime as they become stronger, they see those numbers go up, see the changes in the mirror and feel the changes in their everyday lives. It's like how Some people ENJOY obsessively saving their money so they can see those numbers increasing overtime, some might consider that fun, others not so much. Neither person is right or wrong. Some people enjoy lifting because they like being able to keep trying out different/new routines and techniques and supplements (safely and after ample background research) and seeing the results (my electrical engineering friend LOVES lifting largely for this reason.) Some like how lifting makes them feel (brain chemistry wise.) Some like perfecting the harder, more complex exercises like olympic lifts which take a combination of coordination, balance, speed and power (this would be your more "classically sport-like" area.) Some people like to compete, either in actual competitions or more often simply with their friends (me and my lifting buddy had a great back and forth going throughout college.) Some people want to pack on as much mass as they can so that they can eat more food without getting fat. Most people have more than one reason for why they enjoy lifting (for example, most of these apply to me personally.)
Third, my most important point is that different people are entitled to enjoy different things. What I can't understand is how you can't understand how different people may enjoy different things from you. Never met anyone who disliked a food you like or vice-versa? Everyone you know enjoy all of the same things as you? There are plenty of activities I can't imagine myself ever enjoying but that doesn't mean I feel the need to go around questioning the people who DO enjoy and act like it's dumb to like the activity just because I don't. There's nothing wrong with you not liking lifting, just go do what you DO like and let people who like lifting continue lifting.
Optimum is the best in my opinion. There are some cheaper brands you can get online that are good quality (like true nutrition) But you can never go wrong with ON Gold standard whey.Any protein recommendations as far as Whey goes? I have gone with Gold Standard for the majority of my lifting experience but after seeing a couple of you guys name drop some particularly bad protein brands I'm just wondering what is a tried and true brand most people use?
Also been using casein protein mostly because there was a steal at GNC. I also realized I tend to drink shakes at night before bed anyway so I am wondering if casein would be my best bet. General whey vs. casein pros and cons.
Good thread!
My stance is shoulder width, maybe slightly narrower. I was gonna try and go a liiiiiitle bit wider, but I don't wanna go too wide since the OLY shoes make it awkward to go out past shoulder widthI know that gym bootay is awesome, but focusing helps a lot in squats. I like to just focus on pretending I'm sitting down, keeping my heels to the ground, and neck straight (looking forward or looking up a bit). Are you doing a wider stance? I know them power dudes like doing a wider stance.
I haven't, but it is just a joke. Just friendly smack talk (like a meme).Have you ever watched the Games or the Open? The serious CF athletes are in amazing shape with really good stats.
I would argue that once you depart from the health aspect of it for purely muscle size (like current Bodybuilding Pros) you move out of the "fitness" category into a new category.You really didn't need to try to convince me that it's okay for some people to enjoy lifting, I explicitly said in my post that I enjoy lifting. The only point I'm trying to make is that it frequently becomes an unhealthy obsession at which point its "fitness" aspect is often abandoned.
Good point about devolving lifting though, that wasn't fair of me and I suppose that could be done for a lot of sports
I agree with the ON Gold recommendation. Many years ago, consumer reports did a neat article on contamination in protein drinks and ON Gold was found to be pretty reliable. There are purer proteins out there like ON Platinum, but at much higher cost.Any protein recommendations as far as Whey goes? I have gone with Gold Standard for the majority of my lifting experience but after seeing a couple of you guys name drop some particularly bad protein brands I'm just wondering what is a tried and true brand most people use?
Also been using casein protein mostly because there was a steal at GNC. I also realized I tend to drink shakes at night before bed anyway so I am wondering if casein would be my best bet. General whey vs. casein pros and cons.
Good thread!
I haven't, but it is just a joke. Just friendly smack talk (like a meme).
"Thus sayeth the prophet, ' go forth and lift hard for 30 seconds, then rest for 2 minutes. Do this again until you achieve greatness as did hercules before you' and so we did, and were righteously blessed with shredz and gainz from our lord and savior Zeus, son of Odin"It's been around for millennia
"Thus sayeth the prophet, ' go forth and lift hard for 30 seconds, then rest for 2 minutes. Do this again until you achieve greatness as did hercules before you' and so we did, and were righteously blessed with shredz and gainz from our lord and savior Zeus, son of Odin"
- actual passage from the Rosetta Stone
I know! they invented dumbbells and progressive resistance if i'm not mistaken.Funny, but the Greeks used HIIT a lot.
I take it you don't live in a big trendy cityYeah I figured. There's a lot of CF hate which makes no sense. It's been around for millennia, it was just called HIIT.
I know! they invented dumbbells and progressive resistance if i'm not mistaken.
That explains why none of their togas had sleeves....
"Call the medicus, because these Pythons are siiiiick bro"
Helios out guns out?I know! they invented dumbbells and progressive resistance if i'm not mistaken.
That explains why none of their togas had sleeves....
I take it you don't live in a big trendy city
I know! they invented dumbbells and progressive resistance if i'm not mistaken.
That explains why none of their togas had sleeves....
Prices have gone up over the years. I remember buying my whey (5 pounds), pre-workout, and BCAAs with only 100 bucks. ON has always been the legit protein. Muscle Milk back then had lead in their stuff.I agree with the ON Gold recommendation. Many years ago, consumer reports did a neat article on contamination in protein drinks and ON Gold was found to be pretty reliable. There are purer proteins out there like ON Platinum, but at much higher cost.
Any protein recommendations as far as Whey goes? I have gone with Gold Standard for the majority of my lifting experience but after seeing a couple of you guys name drop some particularly bad protein brands I'm just wondering what is a tried and true brand most people use?
Also been using casein protein mostly because there was a steal at GNC. I also realized I tend to drink shakes at night before bed anyway so I am wondering if casein would be my best bet. General whey vs. casein pros and cons.
Good thread!
I've been buying MyProtein. The quality is good and it's pretty cheap.
Optimum is the best in my opinion. There are some cheaper brands you can get online that are good quality (like true nutrition) But you can never go wrong with ON Gold standard whey.
There is some evidence to support the idea that Casein is good for a nighttime protein shake (since it is slowly absorbed by the body and therefore will keep you from entering a catabolic state as you fast overnight)
100% whey is fast digesting and better for post workout and morning shakes.
Plus, casein tends to be thicker and chalkier than whey since it's basically straight milk protein. I prefer whey since it's more drinkable and i'm not particularly worried about losing my gains while I sleep.
I agree with the ON Gold recommendation. Many years ago, consumer reports did a neat article on contamination in protein drinks and ON Gold was found to be pretty reliable. There are purer proteins out there like ON Platinum, but at much higher cost.
Prices have gone up over the years. I remember buying my whey (5 pounds), pre-workout, and BCAAs with only 100 bucks. ON has always been the legit protein. Muscle Milk back then had lead in their stuff.
IDK how legit the company is, but LabDoor supposedly analyzes various supplements for quality and compiles a list of the most pure.
https://labdoor.com/rankings/protein
MyProtein tops the list, ON natural whey gets a C+ and ON Gold Standard gets a C. I've stuck with Gold Standard for years now though, love the stuff.
I'd like to see their ranking criteria, all I care about is high quality protein without fillers. I could care less about creatine, BCAAS or whatever other junk they put in..
I agree, ON is the best in my book forever.
We're freaks babyI wish I could take this thread seriously but I only take lifting advice from Jason Genova and Dom Mazzetti.
Nice, didn't realize this site existed. I might give myprotein a shot considering my current bucket is running low. ON just tastes so good though... It really has gone up in price recently though :\IDK how legit the company is, but LabDoor supposedly analyzes various supplements for quality and compiles a list of the most pure.
https://labdoor.com/rankings/protein
MyProtein tops the list, ON natural whey gets a C+ and ON Gold Standard gets a C. I've stuck with Gold Standard for years now though, love the stuff.
Is there anybody here that doesn't lift lol, Its not that I don't want to lift, I actually want to, but that section of the gym always has all these muscular dudes (All of you guys!) and I'm this skinny girl with no upper body strength so it's kinda intimidating. Plus I don't know how to use any of the equipment over there so I'm gonna look like a complete idiot lol
But does anyone have thoughts on using pre workout for running? I know a lot of the lifters here use it, I personally love using it before a run, but I've heard mixed views online that it's bad for runners. I heard since running itself increases your heart rate and pre workout also increases heart rate, then together its dangerous. But I love my C4, maybe I could just use it 2-3 x a week instead of everyday?
Is there anybody here that doesn't lift lol, Its not that I don't want to lift, I actually want to, but that section of the gym always has all these muscular dudes (All of you guys!) and I'm this skinny girl with no upper body strength so it's kinda intimidating. Plus I don't know how to use any of the equipment over there so I'm gonna look like a complete idiot lol
But does anyone have thoughts on using pre workout for running? I know a lot of the lifters here use it, I personally love using it before a run, but I've heard mixed views online that it's bad for runners. I heard since running itself increases your heart rate and pre workout also increases heart rate, then together its dangerous. But I love my C4, maybe I could just use it 2-3 x a week instead of everyday?
I just pound a cup of coffee before a run. It basically puts me in 'ticking time bomb' mode so I have to run faster to make it back homeAs for the caffeine. I sometimes take caffeine before early morning cardio. There are studies saying that caffeine can improve endurance for cardio.
Is there anybody here that doesn't lift lol, Its not that I don't want to lift, I actually want to, but that section of the gym always has all these muscular dudes (All of you guys!) and I'm this skinny girl with no upper body strength so it's kinda intimidating. Plus I don't know how to use any of the equipment over there so I'm gonna look like a complete idiot lol
But does anyone have thoughts on using pre workout for running? I know a lot of the lifters here use it, I personally love using it before a run, but I've heard mixed views online that it's bad for runners. I heard since running itself increases your heart rate and pre workout also increases heart rate, then together its dangerous. But I love my C4, maybe I could just use it 2-3 x a week instead of everyday?
Hey! I know what you mean about gyms being intimidating. I'm also a small girl and if it weren't for my dad taking me to lift since jr high, it would have been really hard to get started. I think it's really good cross training though! There's lots of helpful information about how to use the equipment online, and it's always great to have another lady in the gym! I mainly rock climb and distance run now but I lift to build overall strength and prevent (more) injuries.
I don't know about preworkout for running. Maybe it depends some on the type of running? I am more about carbs for running....And climbing...And lifting...Maybe I'm just generally about carbs in life lol.
You may now return to your regularly scheduled protein supplement discussions.
I don't know if I'd recommend pre workout specifically, but caffeine (e.g. through coffee or caffeine pills) has a ton of benefits for long-distance running:Does anyone have thoughts on using pre workout for running? I know a lot of the lifters here use it, I personally love using it before a run, but I've heard mixed views online that it's bad for runners. I heard since running itself increases your heart rate and pre workout also increases heart rate, then together its dangerous. But I love my C4, maybe I could just use it 2-3 x a week instead of everyday?
What do you mean by 'ticking time bomb' mode? Are you referring to a crash? That shouldn't be a problem since the half life of caffeine is around 5.5 hours for most people, so it should be able to hold you all the way through an entire marathon at the very least. Unless you're referring to your bladder and caffeine's diuretic effects as the ticking time bomb, which also shouldn't be the case unless you're consuming 500-600 mg of caffeine or more, at which point hydration imbalances can start to occur.I just pound a cup of coffee before a run. It basically puts me in 'ticking time bomb' mode so I have to run faster to make it back home
It was quite literally toilet humor. Just ignore me.What do you mean by 'ticking time bomb' mode? Are you referring to a crash? That shouldn't be a problem since the half life of caffeine is around 5.5 hours for most people, so it should be able to hold you all the way through an entire marathon at the very least. Unless you're referring to your bladder and caffeine's diuretic effects as the ticking time bomb, which also shouldn't be the case unless you're consuming 500-600 mg of caffeine or more, at which point hydration imbalances can start to occur.
I don't know if I'd recommend pre workout specifically, but caffeine (e.g. through coffee or caffeine pills) has a ton of benefits for long-distance running:
-upregulates beta oxidation and downregulates glycolysis, which is important for sustained cardio (and helps you lose fat if that's your goal). This essentially prevents you from hitting "the wall" in very long runs (e.g. marathons)
-improves mental state; releases endorphins and makes you feel like you're exerting less effort even with the same energy output
-enhances neuromuscular coordination (read: more efficient body movements)
-improves heat tolerance if you're running in a warm environment
-improves recovery after running
With that said, there's really not much of a point in taking caffeine every time you run; 2-3 times per week (maybe 4), as you suggested, would be a good option.
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Poop. He means ticking time bomb to poop.What do you mean by 'ticking time bomb' mode? Are you referring to a crash? That shouldn't be a problem since the half life of caffeine is around 5.5 hours for most people, so it should be able to hold you all the way through an entire marathon at the very least. Unless you're referring to your bladder and caffeine's diuretic effects as the ticking time bomb, which also shouldn't be the case unless you're consuming 500-600 mg of caffeine or more, at which point hydration imbalances can start to occur.
Interesting... how much caffeine do you think I should take though? Like the equivalent of 1 cup of coffee? The pre workout I take has 135mg, I think that's like a cup and a half of coffee, I'm 130 lb's and I never drink coffee so I'm thinking the 135mg is maybe too high?
Also, could you elaborate on why you think there's no point in taking caffeine on every run?
Good ol syntholI will agree with you. But there's still a point where it can become functionally useless even for the purpose you mentioned.
Do you have any advice for someone on a low carb high fat diet?
I am in my late 30's, and I've consistently gained weight over the past 6 years or so, just a few lbs a year, but it's added up. I was already quite active and my diet wasn't horrible, I ate pretty clean and didn't drink soft drinks, ect. When I would cut calories, I would be so hungry and I could never sick to it long enough to lose weight.
So I gained 8lbs in a month this fall, probably has something to do with applying to need school... anyway, I panicked and contacted friends I knew had lost weight and kept if off and they had done something along the lines of LCHF, to I dove in and lost 18lbs since the end of October.
I think I could stand to lose 20 more lbs to get to a weight I'd be really happy with, (honestly I'm just thrilled to see my weight go down instead of continue to climb!) and i believe I'll continue to lose it slowly as I have been, but I want to stay healthy and active in med school next year.
Do you have advice for maintaining weight lost in this manner during med school?
I think it's crucial i stay active because of my age. I've picked up running and have worked up to a 5K and plan to have that be my main cardio. I go to resistance training and yoga classes at the y, and hope to find similar classes during med school, or start a lifting regime if i can't.
Thanks for such an awesome thread. We future docs need to take care of ourselves!
I agree. I think low carb/ high fat is the only way I've been able to do it because it kills my appetite. Add the additional hormonal obstacles that come with being a little older, it becomes a bit harder to lose weight.Losing/maintaining/gaining weight is really as simple as counting calories if you ask me. That's all there is to it.