THE OFFICIAL UNE ONLINE COURSE THREAD

[Palmyra]

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Does anyone know of any online organic chemistry courses that are self-paced, and that don't require proctors?

Are you just looking to brush up your knowledge or looking for actual credits?

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[Two Sides]

Are you just looking to brush up your knowledge or looking for actual credits?

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Retake for credits.

 

[Palmyra]

Retake for credits.

I don't think there is anything reputable without a proctor or system of proctoring of some sort. They need to have some assurances of you doing your own work on order to give you credit.

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[Two Sides]

I don't think there is anything reputable without a proctor or system of proctoring of some sort. They need to have some assurances of you doing your own work on order to give you credit.

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Thanks! I'll be starting UNE organic tomorrow. I was just wondering.

 

[mrjbb]

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[whitesockss]

has anyone taken Genetics? any input/advice? thanks!

 

[rhannahbrown]

I've seen a few people ask this question before but no one has really given an answer. I'm about to take the UNIT 2 Exam in Biochem, and I am doing the UNIT 2 Review (the bank of questions) over and over and getting every single question right every time. But are these the same questions that will be on the exam, or am I about to be blindsided?

 

[velodork]

I've seen a few people ask this question before but no one has really given an answer. I'm about to take the UNIT 2 Exam in Biochem, and I am doing the UNIT 2 Review (the bank of questions) over and over and getting every single question right every time. But are these the same questions that will be on the exam, or am I about to be blindsided?

I start this course on Wednesday and I am curious about any tips to succeed as well!

 

[AnotherLawyer]

I've seen a few people ask this question before but no one has really given an answer. I'm about to take the UNIT 2 Exam in Biochem, and I am doing the UNIT 2 Review (the bank of questions) over and over and getting every single question right every time. But are these the same questions that will be on the exam, or am I about to be blindsided?

If you took the practice test and scored well on your first shot, you're probably in good shape. If you took it numerous times, with each time 90% of the questions being the same, and now you have every answer memorized, that doesn't really mean you understand the material.

To answer your question directly, the questions from the test bank are NOT on the exam. But it is a safe bet that if the test bank asks a question, a closely related question will appear on the exam.

 

[AnotherLawyer]

I start this course on Wednesday and I am curious about any tips to succeed as well!

I recently finished the course with a high A. My study method constantly evolved as the course went on as I tried to figure out what I needed to know and how best to learn it. Having finished the course, I believe I know what works. In short: watch the lectures multiple times and be able to draw every diagram that is referenced in the objectives.

Everything you need to know is in the lectures. The lectures contain big picture stuff (the pathways and signaling cascades) and details. You will not pick up the details until you know the big picture. So after your first time through the lecture, make note of all the pathways you need to know based on the objectives (plus enzymes and their activators and inhibitors). Write them out until you know them cold. Then rewatch the lecture. You'll now start picking up details. Now fill out the objectives. This will help you realize what you still don't know. Rewatch the lecture for the remaining info you need.

This is all I did. I did not take notes (not counting writing out pathways). I did not read the textbook at all after Unit 2, other than to look at figures. And I did not focus my studies on the objectives. I just used them to orient my lecture watching.

I recommend getting a browser plugin that let's you speed up the lectures. I normally used 1.8x. Maybe a little slower the first time through and I would slow down during any confusing parts.

Also, there is stuff in the lectures not in the objectives. I reiterate not to waste your time on that stuff. I think the heme synthesis pathway is a good example. She talks about the whole pathway, but the objectives only require you to know one or two enzymes if I remember. Memorizing the full pathway would be a waste.

 

[epoxydine]

I'm planning to take the lab final for GenChem II at the end of this week, has anyone here taken it? Do I need to know super specific information like the colors of reagents used in the different labs? I am not quite sure what a lab final might consist of, to be honest. If anyone has taken this final for genchem II, I would really appreciate some guidance/advice/whatever in terms of what I ought to study or be ready for. Thanks in advance.

 

[NoTownPreMed]

Hey guys just starting Gen Chem II w/ Rowe. Any tips/advices for a fellow member?

 

[epoxydine]

Hey guys just starting Gen Chem II w/ Rowe. Any tips/advices for a fellow member?

don't bother with the lectures they are almost completely worthless. Just read the book and do the book problems, and be super familiar with where all the information in the book is so that come exam time you know where to find those random details you remember reading--they will just happen to be on the test. the midterm and final questions are very similar to those found on the quizzes, so if you do well on the quizzes you should expect to do well on the exams. Good luck!

 

[velodork]

does anyone have a link to the pdf for the biochem book? PM me if so! TYIA!

 

[Aestivas]

Thinking a bit taking physics I through UNE. Any input is appreciated.

Did you end up taking it? Thinking of starting this October myself, looking for any info on it. Almost no one talked about it.

 

[Aestivas]

Harvard has a physics where you do the work online then go to boston for like 10 days to do the labs.

If Harvard scares you, I believe BYU and UTx have online physics as well.

UNE is to be avoided for lots of reasons

Does Harvard work on a calendar system though? Will it be too late to take a course now?

 

[AnotherLawyer]

does anyone have a link to the pdf for the biochem book? PM me if so! TYIA!

You can easily find the older versions just by googling the title of the book and "PDF." I ended up not reading the book, but the diagrams are invaluable and required for success. The objectives reference the figure numbers in the current version. Old versions are numbered differently. You can almost always figure out what it is referring to, but for me it wasn't worth the hassle or risk that I got it wrong. I rented the current version from Amazon and don't regret it at all.

 

[Aestivas]

I don't know, check it out

UNEO is a ****show, the worst interaction with an educational institution I've had. Trust me, you're flushing your money down the toilet.

Yikes.. That's scary. I did check right after I posted the question and Harvard has a semester system. I'll keep searching but so far only UNEO has a self-paced start whenever system.. I'll keep looking. 🙁 wanted to begin now while my app is under review to provide updates.

 

[Aestivas]

There's also UTex and BYU. I guarantee you neither would put their respectable academic reputations on line with the frequently disastrous quality that UNE is comfortable with.

To summarize UNE - disastrous lecture quality (often several order of magnitude inferior to khan academy), professors who are not terribly accessible or helpful, harsh and inconsistent grading - you will frequently be surprised by content on exams and there's no recourse, sometimes they curve and sometimes they don't, it is frowned upon by DO and shunned by MD, etc, etc, etc

OK! I'll look into them, thank you for the suggestions!
I think it may be worth looking into other options or even waiting to retake at local colleges for next cycle if needed than pursuing something several people have complained about. It's expensive so I don't want to run the risk of throwing my money away..

 

[AnotherLawyer]

I just want to offer a somewhat different opinion for the benefit of prospective students (for biochem):

Lectures: They certainly don't win any awards for production quality. Poorly edited, boring, the professor talks painfully slowly. But, all the tested info comes from the lectures. Know the lectures and the diagrams she goes over in the lectures and you will get an A. You can also watch the lectures at 1.5 speed or greater (I typically used 1.8).

Professor: I had Dr. Spicer. He responded within 24 hours to every one of my questions with well written substantive answers.

Grading: It's all multiple choice, so nothing is harsh or inconsistent (compared, for example, to the Berkeley extension course that requires written projects that many SDN posters feel are arbitrarily graded). The multiple choice questions are not tricky. I was not surprised by anything. Moreover, it's not conceptually hard at all. It's just a lot of volume.

Respectability of Course: I called every Texas medical school and about 10 non-TX MD schools (that state they accept online coursework on MSAR). Every school said that UNE Biochem was accepted. None had any reservations.

Overall I think online courses suck, but sometimes you don't have a choice. As far as online courses go, there was nothing particularly bad about this one. Having now started MCAT prep, I feel like this course gave me all the biochem content I need and hit on many biology topics as well.

 

[velodork]

You can easily find the older versions just by googling the title of the book and "PDF." I ended up not reading the book, but the diagrams are invaluable and required for success. The objectives reference the figure numbers in the current version. Old versions are numbered differently. You can almost always figure out what it is referring to, but for me it wasn't worth the hassle or risk that I got it wrong. I rented the current version from Amazon and don't regret it at all.

Yep! Found it. Thanks for the response and for the feedback. I'm generally following your suggestions but have already found myself pretty focused on the objectives despite what you recommended. Ive taken 2 pre/post evaluations so far and every question seems like it is pretty much directly derived from an objective...

 

[AnotherLawyer]

re UNE as an asinine entity, here is a sample quiz question:



So this question spans all of glycogenlysis, gluconeogenesis, glycolysis, including minor enzymes that catalyze intermediates. It also tests the effect of hormones on those systems.

It then tests you - on minor enzymes covering 3 gigantic, conditional pathways - whether these enzymes are activated or inactivated by phosphorylation.

There's not much intuition here - just brute force of wrote memorization of what's activated or inactivated by phosphorylation. On a series of interrelated pathways that cover about 100 products, intermediates, and enzymes.

This is about par for the course, and testing in this manner is completely - utterly - totally stupid. Unless you're trying to hand out a 2.5 in an attempt to gain credibility with medical schools, but doing so in a very underhanded way

If curved no big deal, but I heard they've stopped curving...lols

I would respectfully disagree and argue that this is an easy question that only requires basic knowledge.

First, you have to know that that an insulin/glucagon ratio > 1 indicates the fed state. Next, you must know the key regulatory enzymes of the major pathways (here, glycolysis and glycogenolysis). Finally, you must know that phosphorylation activates enzymes that facilitate fasted state pathways and deactivates enzymes that facilitate fed state pathways. Since all enzymes covered in the course follow that rule, it is unnecessary to memorize the effect of phosphorylation on an enzyme if you know what the enzyme does.

With that knowledge, you look for a fed state pathway enzyme that is active and therefore dephorphorylated or a fasted state pathway enzyme that is inactive and therefore dephosphorylated.

 

[Shotapp]

I am interested in taking Ochem II. Does anyone have any advice/input on how to succeed in this course?
Its has been a while since I have touch Ochem I, so for now, I think I will brush up on that.

 

[inajeT02]

I just want to offer a somewhat different opinion for the benefit of prospective students (for biochem):

Lectures: They certainly don't win any awards for production quality. Poorly edited, boring, the professor talks painfully slowly. But, all the tested info comes from the lectures. Know the lectures and the diagrams she goes over in the lectures and you will get an A. You can also watch the lectures at 1.5 speed or greater (I typically used 1.8).

Professor: I had Dr. Spicer. He responded within 24 hours to every one of my questions with well written substantive answers.

Grading: It's all multiple choice, so nothing is harsh or inconsistent (compared, for example, to the Berkeley extension course that requires written projects that many SDN posters feel are arbitrarily graded). The multiple choice questions are not tricky. I was not surprised by anything. Moreover, it's not conceptually hard at all. It's just a lot of volume.

Respectability of Course: I called every Texas medical school and about 10 non-TX MD schools (that state they accept online coursework on MSAR). Every school said that UNE Biochem was accepted. None had any reservations.

Overall I think online courses suck, but sometimes you don't have a choice. As far as online courses go, there was nothing particularly bad about this one. Having now started MCAT prep, I feel like this course gave me all the biochem content I need and hit on many biology topics as well.

I just want to corroborate what AnotherLawyer has said about the respectability of the course. I live in the Dallas area, and there aren't any biochemistry classes that meet after work hours. It's my last requirement for a lot of med schools, so I decided to take it online. I emailed all of the Texas MD schools that require biochemistry with a list of potential biochemistry classes, including the Harvard biochemistry course and the UC Berkeley biochemistry course, and several said that they even prefer the UNE Biochemistry course over the other options (Texas A&M specifically mentioned that they always recommend the UNE biochemistry course to students who are in my position over the alternatives). In terms of respectability of the course, I think this course is ok.

LeClair has gotten back to me same day on any questions I have with well explained answers too. Miami_Postbac, you may have just gotten unlucky with a bad professor.

Studying for Exam 1 right now, it seems as if a lot of the material is in fact arbitrary, but that may be because of the amount of material you are expected to know. I'm assuming med school will be like this though, so it's good practice I guess.

 

[deleted707454]

UNE courses are great if you can extract relevant information from text, prof notes, and lectures and if you have discipline to study. UNE courses are bad if you need to be spoon-fed the course content and rely on others to give you the information.

 

[deleted707454]

I paid $10,000 in UNE (and UCSD Extension) courses to improve my transcript, and it got me into medical school. Wouldn't have been able to do that this cycle without. Wasn't deployed in Iraq or Afganistan or Korea, but was living in a developing country and did not have access to university courses when I started the courses. Returned to the US, was working full time, and stacked these courses with a full time student schedule in traditional structured classroom settings. Thank god for UNE and UCSD Extension.

 

[deleted707454]

Did any of UNE's people write a reference letter?

Were you admitted DO or MD?

Are you URM or otherwise apply disadvantaged?

Also, I do not think they are bad in terms of the signaling value of grades assigned, particularly in their BC - if you can swim in their Hurricane Katrina of disorganization and sloppy delivery, that has clear positive signaling value - although its mitigated by the fact that cheating is likely rampant on their stuff. I think they are unspeakably bad in terms of course content, delivery, organization.

I am not URM
Acceptances to DO
II to MD - pending -
I had one UNE prof write a LOR, but only for AACOMAS. I wouldn't suggest it though

Of the 5 courses I took, 1 rocked, 3 were ok, and 1 was meh. Not saying for everyone to take these courses, but there are few self-paced online pre-reqs out there. If you're in a pinch and need a fix, don't be deterred. Its great to watch lectures at your own pace, on your own time. Can re-wind, skip over, and repeat the vids - easy to optimize study time this way. If you fizzle out, need a break, or otherwise, these courses can stretch out over 6 months. I've taken a lot of online courses (other institutions), and while most of them kinda suck, my study skills have improved.

 

[deleted707454]

I think this is the lone intrinsic value of the course but I found myself watching outside videos for both of the courses I took with them. And my bc instructor referred me to Khan academy on one occasion.

Also congratulations on your admit

Thanks! I actually don't think I watched the UNE biochem lectures in depth, but relied heavily on AK lectures and Khan.
FWIW, seems like a lot of med students skip class and study in this manner, too. I hear lots of complaints about schools with mandatory attendance policies..

 

[InfernalNinja]

I have a question about Microbiology. Noticed really bad reviews for one of the instructors Fisradi, but the one I'm taking it with now, Farrell, has pretty good reviews. However, it seems she's recycling Fisradis online lectures- should I be worried about the exams?

 

[deleted707454]

I have a question about Microbiology. Noticed really bad reviews for one of the instructors Fisradi, but the one I'm taking it with now, Farrell, has pretty good reviews. However, it seems she's recycling Fisradis online lectures- should I be worried about the exams?

Those lectures aren't very helpful - I didn't watch them. However, the notes and outlines were very helpful and I didn't find this course to be overly challenging.

 

[rhannahbrown]

If you took the practice test and scored well on your first shot, you're probably in good shape. If you took it numerous times, with each time 90% of the questions being the same, and now you have every answer memorized, that doesn't really mean you understand the material.

To answer your question directly, the questions from the test bank are NOT on the exam. But it is a safe bet that if the test bank asks a question, a closely related question will appear on the exam.

Well, I did end up being pretty blindsided, hah! I've taken exams 1, 2, and 3 now and have found that the quiz questions and review questions are SO MUCH easier than the actual exam questions. I wish the quizzes were harder if only to prepare us better. The quizzes are so cut and dry and obvious and then the exam pulls out random things in so much DETAIL that we didn't really focus on. Oh well. I'm taking the final tomorrow night and just really hoping to do okay on it. I understand all the material, and I actually really think it's cool, and enjoy learning it, but the exams stress me out so much. At least it will be over!

No more of these awful lectures. Never again. You'd think they could improve on that, I can literally hear her EATING while recording lol!

 

[AnotherLawyer]

Well, I did end up being pretty blindsided, hah! I've taken exams 1, 2, and 3 now and have found that the quiz questions and review questions are SO MUCH easier than the actual exam questions. I wish the quizzes were harder if only to prepare us better. The quizzes are so cut and dry and obvious and then the exam pulls out random things in so much DETAIL that we didn't really focus on. Oh well. I'm taking the final tomorrow night and just really hoping to do okay on it. I understand all the material, and I actually really think it's cool, and enjoy learning it, but the exams stress me out so much. At least it will be over!

No more of these awful lectures. Never again. You'd think they could improve on that, I can literally hear her EATING while recording lol!

Good luck on the final, but don't take it unless you're ready. About 1/3 of the students get an A or A-. If I had to guess, and from my observations here, the people who end up struggling are the ones who try to get through the course in weeks rather than months. I took about 14 weeks for reference.

 

[AnotherLawyer]

Do you have a reference for 1/3 get an A or A-? Even if truewith C's and D's the GPA is very probably sub 3.0, which is aggressive grade deflation

And yes, the way to do well is to sink ungodly amounts of time into reviewing obscure details about, for example cofactors of unregulated intermediates

Pitbull2o08 posted a spreadsheet he received from his professor with the grade distribution. It was on page 10 of this thread, but it appears he has since deleted it. As best I remember, another third of the grades were in the B range. The mean was well above 3.0.

I think we'll just have to agree to disagree about the course. Obviously you had a bad experience that is greatly affecting your opinion. But at the end of the day 1 out of 3 students are pulling an A or A- so the class can't really be that inaccessible. The numbers speak for themselves. http://forums.studentdoctor.net/members/pitbull2o08.762982/

What I don't understand is your repeated claims about how impossibly hard the course is while at the same time saying you got an A- while completing the 16 week course in less than 4 weeks. It seems like it was quite possible for you to do well even in a quarter of the recommended time.

 

[AnotherLawyer]

Quantitative point:

1/3 A's + 1/3 B's + 1/6 C's + 1/12D+1/12F = (1.33+1+.33+.08+0) = 2.7

And I presume this data was from when they were curving? They've stopped curving. They were uniformly adding 6% (2/3rds of a letter grade to each score). This would drop the GPA to around 2.2 to 2.3, which if the stuff of farce.

For reference in the wake of Princeton's revision of their grade deflation regime, the lowest GPA in the top 50 is around a 3.2. A 3.7 would be fantastic grade inflation, while a 2.7 is very substantial grade deflation. Dropping to 2.2 is crazy.

Re bad experience, yes. The course is not well designed, is terribly organized, testing was unfair, and I want back the 150 hours or so of life I spent pouring over obscure pathways that aren't on the MCAT and that I'll never see again.

As to my beef with grading personally, I'm not an A- student. I got one in ochem because I didn't study enough. I followed with an A+, A, A+ and A+ in my next courses. Then I encountered this absolute **** show of a course, where the quality of instruction can only be described as "purely disastrous" where testing is random and where they cut off A at 94.

The grade distribution was from after they stopped curving and was sent as justification for why curving was no longer necessary. I think the bottom line is that anyone looking for an easy A should look elsewhere. But people who can self-motivate and figure out how to study independently will do well and learn a ton of material.

As for your experience:

A 4 credit course is supposed to meet for 64 hours in a semester. Conventional wisdom (and what the syllabus for this class specifically recommends) is to spend another three hours studying per in-class hour. So that's a total of 256 hours of recommended time for the course.

So to be perfectly clear, you got an A- in what you describe as the hardest class you've ever taken after working only 60% of the recommended hours and completing the course in only 25% of its intended duration.

I think this only proves the point that it really isn't that bad.

 

[velodork]

I want back the 150 hours or so of life I spent pouring over obscure pathways that aren't on the MCAT and that I'll never see again.

I hate to further insight your pissed-offed-ness about this class, but... You do know they teach biochemistry in medical school, right???

 

[AnotherLawyer]

Pitbul posted the distribution on 6.10. It was curved when I finished, which was late spring. Summer appears to have been the cutoff for stopping the curve.

How did he have good data on the post-curve distribution 1o days after the apparent implementation of the policy?



Nope, I spent exactly what they suggested:



And I scored 780/740/5.5 on the old GRE.

Even if they are at 1/3rd A, 1/3rd B, and 1/3rd grades immediately fatal to careers in medicine, that's still sub 3.0 and nobody - nobody - is giving out a sub 3.0. And it looks like they're deflating from there.

Except the heroes of UNE Online.

This is aggravated by extremely low instructional quality (nom, nom, nom, what were we talking about again), poor course organization, and a professor who referred me to Khan Academy for questions.

In summary, UNE Online is engaging in educational ruffianism to extract rents from poor, nontraditional, rural, or military students who lack the resources to attend conventional classroom settings or who are in remote areas of the world serving our country. They're doing this by charging more than almost any community college or extension school while delivering instructional quality and professor accessibility that would be a source of embarrassment to any community college, and while aggressively grade deflating.

I'm a non-traditional military student unable to attend a conventional classroom biochemistry course and I was satisfied with my experience. Professor accessibility was outstanding and instructional quality, while leaving something to be desired, was no worse than other online courses.

I know I won't change your mind, but my posts are not for you. They are for prospective students who, like me, were terrified to take this course because of posts like yours.

 

[inajeT02]

Good to know they're not designed for me, because they have logical gaps in them you could drive a truck through

The course has a level of organization that is about on par New Orleans in the aftermath of hurricane Katrina, or with Bogota after dark...take your pick.

The instructional quality is adequately summarized in one sentence: "Nom, nom, nom where were we : phone rings: oh yes, back to the cofactors of this unregulated intermediate you will never see again"

My professor referred me to Khan academy when I asked him questions.

They're assigning a 2.2-2.7 GPA average, which is either grade deflation or extremely aggressive grade deflation.

Your A is certainly a considerable achievement in the course, but any kind of positive appraisal of UNE online would emanate from Stockholm syndrome.

After taking exam 1, listening to the unit 2 lectures, I agree with Miami_Postbac (but not as strongly). Some things in the biochemistry lectures are just wrong. Example: Glut2 ports in Glucose into B pancreas cells. This causes an increase in ATP which inhibits K+ channels. She says that this causes a decrease in the charge of the cell. This is incorrect. This causes a decrease in the magnitude of the delta of the membrane potential (which is because the internal cellular charge increases with the inability of K+ to leave the cell). These are the types of obscure details that are questioned and if she explains them incorrectly, where are students to go?

An online class should be immaculate and clear in its presentation of information. We don't have the luxury of asking clarifying questions or listening to other people's questions. It seems some information is skimmed over, and then questioned. Another example: she did not mention alpha keto-gluterate at all (rewatched that part 4 times) yet there was a question on it. What the hell. Are we just supposed to memorize everything on every slide? What's the point of even listening to lectures? Also VLDL wasn't mentioned by her once in Week 8 session A, yet we're supposed to magically know what it is?

My response may be reactionary to the week 8 content being so poorly structured, but this might give prospective students a candid view on what they should be expecting.
To put this into perspective, consider the following:
To get an A you can only miss approximately 10 questions assuming you do reasonably well on the weekly quizzes (average of 94%)
You can only miss 2 questions on modules 1 and 3 quizzes each, and 3 questions on modules 2 and 4 each to get an A if there is no curve. Based on the level of detail asked, and the dichotomy between what she says, what is on the slides, and what is on the quizzes that's insane.

So far I have missed 2 questions (one quiz question and one weekly question) as of week 7. I have a 97. If I had missed double the amount of questions, I would have a 94.

For reference, I'm a 2350 SAT guy, 790 GMAT guy, and a perfect GRE guy. This is irrelevant, since those tests test your analytical abilities, and this course is memorization. I just put these tidbits of info here just to show that I'm not dumb or anything.

With that being said, it is possible to get an A if you work really really hard. I commend AnotherLawyer for his grade, but yes this class is difficult. I still think it's worth it though because of it's convenience and because you actually do learn a lot (too much for the MCAT but it's a good foundation for medical school). But yeah, don't go into this class thinking hard work will guarantee an A because the difficulty level is so high and because it has unfair elements

 

[InfernalNinja]

Quantitative point:

1/3 A's + 1/3 B's + 1/6 C's + 1/12D+1/12F = (1.33+1+.33+.08+0) = 2.7

you're assuming even grade distribution over each letter grade. for instance if all 1/3 of those Bs are B+s, then the total is different

 

[InfernalNinja]

again... you're assuming even percentage distribution between those grades. that may not be the case.

 

[KyleV]

Hi guys, I'm looking to take General Chemistry 2 through either UNE or DCCD. Anyone having experience with either can you please give me a quick review of how the course went? I took Chemistry 1 through DCCD but the class structure is different than Chem 2 - Chem 1 had an at home lab kit to work through, I believe Chem 2 doesn't Really need some advice...

 

[AnotherLawyer]

Hi guys, I'm looking to take General Chemistry 2 through either UNE or DCCD. Anyone having experience with either can you please give me a quick review of how the course went? I took Chemistry 1 through DCCD but the class structure is different than Chem 2 - Chem 1 had an at home lab kit to work through, I believe Chem 2 doesn't Really need some advice...

I took GC 2 at Dallas CC with Deng. It was awful. There are no recorded lectures. You just get the slides that are intended to go with the lectures. Without the lecture they are practically useless. With that said, you get the test bank. So if you figure out how to do all the problems in the question bank you will get a guaranteed A.

On a positive note, the class TA was awesome and responded quickly with well explained answers. Also, figuring out how to do all the questions in the question bank is actually great practice and I ended up knowing the material quite well.

Finally, the recommended textbook was horrible and incomprehensible. I just used my text from GC 1, which worked fine.

 

[mrjbb]

Does anyone have any experiences with UNE's Biology 2? I'm looking to complete it in under 10 weeks. Is it doable? What is mostly covered in this course, i.e. mostly biological chem, evolution, biodiversity/ecology crap?

 

[Palmyra]

Does anyone have any experiences with UNE's Biology 2? I'm looking to complete it in under 10 weeks. Is it doable? What is mostly covered in this course, i.e. mostly biological chem, evolution, biodiversity/ecology crap?

Will you be working and/or taking other classes or will this be the only thing you need to focus on?

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[mrjbb]

Will you be working and/or taking other classes or will this be the only thing you need to focus on?

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Am taking Gen chem, microbio and physics w/lab. I work 80hrs average a week, so most of my late nights are spent studying.

I'm removing my face from my palm because this goes in favor of my argument: they're giving almost no flat "A's", a small number of A-'s, and from there probably a normal distribution.



Biology 2 can be done in 10 weeks. Any of their courses can.

Fischer spent 3/4ths of her time on evolution, biodiversity, and ecology. Very little MCAT relevance. But I can tell you about the nervous systems of nematodes. The final was largely unrelated to course content but heavily curved. The lab barely referenced the actual lab and instead reiterated course content.

As with all of their stuff: its as expense as Harvard Extension in return for almost no instructor time, their grading is harsh and weird, the content doesn't really relate to the MCAT, the lectures are awful, there are lots of opportunities to engage in academic misconduct. Adcoms know all this and look askance at their stuff accordingly: even when they take them, they do so with mild contempt.

I'm thinking of just sticking with Microbiology at my school and apply with it instead. I started a bio 2 course and ended up dropping it because it was too far from where I lived (over an hour away). My college only offers Bio 1 (which I completed), but it was mostly genetics, biological chem, and some ecology/biodiversity subjects. I feel like most Bio 2 courses out there cover unrelated subjects for the Mcat and other science prereqs. Most DO schools I've called, accept Micro in lieu of Bio 2.

I find Micro much more interesting. I'd be taking biochem and Orgo at UNE in January though. I don't live in a densely populated area. Not even a little. The closest uni is over an hour away, the next one after that is 2 hrs away. Nearly impossible for me to get to with my work schedule.

 

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How's Edmund K for Organic 1?

 

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Looking for feedback from how difficult and how long it took you to take the following courses via UNECOM:

ORGANIC CHEMISTRY I w/ lab
ORGANIC CHEMISTRY II w/ lab
PHYSICS I w/ lab

Would it be too difficult to finish each course in 4 to 6 weeks, one at a time.

 

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Looking for feedback from how difficult and how long it took you to take the following courses via UNECOM:

ORGANIC CHEMISTRY I w/ lab
ORGANIC CHEMISTRY II w/ lab
PHYSICS I w/ lab

Would it be too difficult to finish each course in 4 to 6 weeks, one at a time.

Finished Organic 2 w/lab in ~4.5 weeks. Organic 2 is unusual since the only organic material is nmr/ir/mass spec. The rest is biochem, and it's open book. I scored an A- on lecture and B+ on lab.

 

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Organic 1 is difficult through UNE since it's pretty much organic 1 and all of organic 2. I really can't imagine taking physics through UNE. I took physics 1 and 2 in-class, and did okay thanks to partial credit for showing work. I can't imagine doing calculations, and having to select an answer from a multiple choice test.

 

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Organic 1 is difficult through UNE since it's pretty much organic 1 and all of organic 2. I really can't imagine taking physics through UNE. I took physics 1 and 2 in-class, and did okay thanks to partial credit for showing work. I can't imagine doing calculations, and having to select an answer from a multiple choice test.

Yeah. Thanks for the heads up about Organic I being a combination of Organic I and II in one course. How long did it take you to finish? what did you end up getting for an organic I grade?

Fortunately, these classes would be for my boyfriend, and I have already taken all 4 of these classes through my university, so I plan to help him out with studying and reviewing! It'll be good review for the MCAT haha.

 

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Yeah. Thanks for the heads up about Organic I being a combination of Organic I and II in one course. How long did it take you to finish? what did you end up getting for an organic I grade?

Fortunately, these classes would be for my boyfriend, and I have already taken all 4 of these classes through my university, so I plan to help him out with studying and reviewing! It'll be good review for the MCAT haha.

I'll be retaking it...